Sloppy play costs Bills key divisional game
For a team that has made a name for itself with excellent fourth quarter play this season, the Buffalo Bills sure fell short of expectations today.
Four second-half turnovers and 18 unanswered points by the Miami Dolphins led to a 25-16 loss for the Bills in their first AFC East matchup of the season. The Bills remained in the game until late into the fourth quarter, but their unexpectedly sloppy play caught up to them by the end of the game.
Miami deserves credit for this win; they earned it. Chad Pennington carved Buffalo's defense up to the tune of 314 passing yards. Ted Ginn Jr. had 175 receiving yards, nearly matching his season total of 177. The Dolphins were able to make plays on their home field while the Bills tripped over their own feet.
Trent Edwards is M.I.A.
The mystique surrounding Bills QB Trent Edwards evaporated after a miserable performance in Miami. Sure, he completed 21 of 35 passes for 227 yards; those aren't mediocre statistics by any means. It was his interception, taken safety, and lost fumble, however, that humbled Buffalo's young signal caller. His QB rating was a dismal 67.2 on the day; his performance was much worse than that rating.
Lee Evans continued his strong play against the Dolphins; his 116 yards on 7 receptions paced the Bills. The offense began to struggle, however, when third-down specialist WR Josh Reed left the game with a strained Achilles.
For the first time all season, Edwards had help on the ground. Buffalo's rushing attack rebounded from a sluggish start to the season in a big way today; unfortunately, playing from behind eliminated their effectiveness. Marshawn Lynch and Fred Jackson combined for 102 yards on 23 carries, and Lynch scored from eight yards out to put the Bills up 16-7 early in the third quarter. The Dolphins, however, dominated from that point forward.
Defense inconsistent, especially against the pass
It was undeniably the Bills' four turnovers that did the team in, but an abysmal performance by the pass defense put the Bills in a precarious position to begin with. With CB Terrence McGee still hobbled with his sprained knee, Pennington and the Dolphins attacked - and defensive coordinator Perry Fewell couldn't counter. This was Ginn's best game as a professional by far, and the Bills' inability to shut him down is as embarrassing a stat as any on this day.
As for the Wildcat, it was, essentially, a non-factor. It was an efficient running play for the Dolphins and led to a few first downs, but in the grand scheme of things, Buffalo had much bigger problems defensively. Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams combined for just 59 rushing yards on the day (including a Williams score); it was Pennington, who has shredded the Bills in the past, that did Buffalo in today.
Langston Walker blocked a field goal in the first half to highlight another highly average special teams effort by the Bills.
Game balls
When you embarrass yourselves on the road as the Bills did today, nobody gets a game ball - even though there were a few nice individual performances today.
Roll call
38 Rumblers showed up to commiserate in this most awful of losses. Props to WABillsfan, whose hatred for Perry Fewell led to 122 comments, pacing the day. Thanks to everyone who joined...
StuckInNJ, krytime, Hassanali181, TheK-GunNeedsReloaded, RabidBuffalo, Tatunka, Northern1, Brian Galliford, NJBillsfan, Scoe221, WABillsfan, silverstreak3k, Memphisbillsfan, jdol1568, Cinga, twoeightnine, Thronsen, patamunzo, ccthemovieman, Kurupt, keuka121, SebastianPruiti, D.O., fletcherjd, chaosthepitbull, BeastMode, BillsNorth, Crizal, pozzed51, MonStarr_716, Joe P., Ron From NM, BenAllen, karovda, TheSharp, Gino Parilli, The Buffalonian, GhostDogg47
Buffalo needs to take this one in the chin, realize that they're not immune to playing like crap, and move past it. So do we. We'll take a couple of days to look back at this "performance" and move on as well. With the Jets and Patriots both pulling out late wins against lesser opponents today, this is the worst possible scenario the Bills could have had today. Bad Sunday, folks. How the Bills respond is now the biggest key.
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And yes… I chose that picture of Royal because it’s the embodiment of the mediocrity that was today.
by Brian Galliford on Oct 26, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Btw Brian, was that line "whose hatred for Perry Fewell led to 122 comments" a way..
To keep me mollifed and not carrying through on my threat to post a weekly “Fire Fewell” Fan Post?
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on Oct 27, 2008 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weekly is fine. I believe you said “daily” in the open thread, which is, again, expressly against the rules.
by Brian Galliford on Oct 27, 2008 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got a better one,
which reflects Fewell’s coaching style! See my Avatar.
by Joe P. on Oct 26, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I may use that yet. Lots of season left.
by Brian Galliford on Oct 26, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*POP*
Hopefully that’s the sound of Perry removing hi head from his a$$
by MonStarr_716 on Oct 26, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 costly turnovers
The defense did its job today, only 2 touchdowns given up. After all those chances the offense gave the Fins, the score could have been much worse. No way any defense can be blamed for 4 offensive turnovers.
by JTM1023 on Oct 26, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt say
that the D did its job at all. Certainly did better than the O but they let up 300 passing yards to Chad Freakin penninton.
by jdol1568 on Oct 26, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
debate
You could go back and forth all day on this. If the offense hadn’t handed the ball back to Pennington over and over, then he wouldn’t have racked up all those yards. If two of those turnovers didn’t happen and the Bills scored, then we would be talking about what a great win it was for Buffalo. Turnovers determine the outcome of most games…you just can’t recover.
Something to look forward to next week…Bret Favre doesn’t look so tough these days. If we can get pressure on him and get him rattled, he will be the one to turn the ball over. 12th Man needs to be their usual overpowering force.
by JTM1023 on Oct 27, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Call
Nice recap. Would be nice to see more aggressive play calling on 4th & 1 on the 1, we have the players to punch it in, and if the stars align against us in that moment then you have them pinned on the 1 and you all out blitz the tar out of them. Same deal with the 3rd & 1 fumble JP style (vs. Jax last year)…ball control. If you don’t get 3rd & 1, keep the momentum and get the 4th & 1. We settled for too many 3’s today.
by Tatunka on Oct 26, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad Game for the Players and Coaches alike
Pennington torched McGee the whole game. The TV viewers saw it and so did the TV commentors. Why didn’t Perry Fewell? It cost the Bills big time. It set a trend for the Dolphins to move the chains on the Bills. Why didn’t McKelvin replace McGee when it was obvious McGee was playing Hurt ? Is it because they have lost faith in McKelvin after being torched himself twice or more in the Cardinal game and then again in the Chargers game? The Bills now look very weak in the secondary. Maybe the Bills should now think more seriously about resigning CB Greer before it is too late.
by Kenwick on Oct 26, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
McGee shouldnt have been left in the game…even if they didnt like Mck we still had Corner i mean they couldnt have played any worse.
Also whats with not giving Marshawn the ball on the goal like and keeping Fred in…. For all those saying Fred Jaskson is better pay attention to what is happening… a feature back aka Lynch needs more then 15 carries a game to get going
Just a poor performance going outta halftime
by Parrish11rules on Oct 26, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I saw were the highlights
And it was plain as day that McGee was still hurt. Again, it doesn’t speak well of the coaching staff if I can look at a 2 min. highlight reel and realize that the defense got smoked because McGee was still hurt. I didn’t even remember that 24 was McGee’s number, and my first comment was, “24 got smoked all day. Why is he even in there?” I thought it was Corner or something, but I didn’t think Corner could have been that bad. Then I remembered McGee was 24. He was obviously playing hurt, and McK or Corner couldn’t have done any worse.
by thefourwinds on Oct 26, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a few thoughts about McGee
I have never – not just today – been impressed with McGee’s pass coverage. He has always played way too “soft” and the only mysteries to me were (1) why is he starting? and (2) why don’t teams exploit him more? But I’m not going to beat a dead horse on this because I’ve complained enough.
There is another factor, however, that I think gets overlooked by starting him. He now does NOT return kickoffs, figuring that asking him to do both is too much. McGee is the greatest kickoff returner in Buffalo Bills history, a threat to go all the way – which he did, I think, more than anyone. Now, our kickoff returns are mediocre at best. In fact, some days they are terrible.
So we’ve downgraded ourselves in two areas by this move to make him a starter. All of that is on the shoulders of the coaching staff.
Whe
by ccthemovieman on Oct 26, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My hatred for Fewell is strong with this one
Anyhow, anyone who read the thread of the game knows we stunk the joint our worse than a bunch of Frat boys after an all night Taco Bell and Beer chugging contest does the next morning in the bathroom.
Our Pass D looked bad, and the run D got worn down late in the game. Wiliams beat us up. McGee looked real bad, and he should have been on the bench the whole game. We had 5 or 6 safeties active for this game, we should have just out Whitner over with McKelvin, that would have slowed Ginn down more.
Alot of the big plays for Ginn though came against our zone D with McGee being told by Fewell to bail out and get deep. I think McGee’s knee issue kept him from closing like normal.
Anyhow you slice it, the game it turns out was lost on that first drive. If we either had punched it in on 4th adn 1, or if we had done something more intelligent then running it up the gut 3 straight times, I think this would have been a lot closer, and not just in score. That huge stop really fired them up for the rest of the game. If you need an example of this, please flip over if you can to the Steeler’s-Giants game.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on Oct 26, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to beat a dead horse to little pieces
But once again we saw today Fewell’s inability to make significant changes in his gameplan if the other team does things not the way he had planned for. Az it was the short quick passing game. Today it was the intermediate/timing passing attack of the Phins that caught him off guard. His boys were obviously ready for the run game, but there is no excuse for continuing to run the same D getting carved up all game. Yes he kept them to 2 TDs, but he couldn’t stem the bleeding of time and FGs either, and those things add up when you need to try and make a comeback. We also tackled poorly again today, and that allowed way to many drives to continue.
Our O played bad today, no denying that. It was a total systems failure it seems after the Reed injury. Yes we turned it over, yes we let Trent get thumped pretty good. These are things we must eliminate before the next game, we are not good enough of a team yet that we can cough it up that conistently and make it up later.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on Oct 26, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree
aggressive offenses win games
by Tatunka on Oct 26, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bottom line
you cannot blame this on Trent. Just like I predicted, Edwards was under pressure all damn day today. The O-L was so awful. Why more screens, misdirections and draws were not called was beyond me. The Miami pass rush owned us today and hurried, sacked or knocked down Edwards on over 50% of his dropbacks! That is a staggering amount. The play calling today was not good. Should have run way more and passed way less.
But I think this loss is a good thing. A slice of humble pie was handed to the boys today and it will make them so much more hungrier now for the Jets and Pats the next two weeks. I believe this was a hiccup that was needed and will serve a valuable lesson moving forward
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Oct 26, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What? Trent had all day to throw for much of the game. He just kept holding it way too long. I don’t see how the OL was that bad….
~K
by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
there were numerous times where he had time I agree, and what was going on was beyond me. But still, he was knocked down, hurried, and sacked on over 50% of his dropbacks. I mean that’s a recipe for a tenative QB when he knows in the back of his mind he will probably get hit on every stick’n play.
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Oct 26, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwards
Listen…Trent had a bad day. That type of thing happens in the NFL, it’s not a big worry. What I do get disgusted with is people trying to make excuses for him when he makes bad plays/decisions. If it was J.P. in the game nobody would be making excuses for him.
by David Oleksy on Oct 26, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But still, he was knocked down, hurried, and sacked on over 50% of his dropbacks.
Do you have an exact number on that? Because I didn’t have that impression at all, especially through the first 3 quarters.
by Brian Galliford on Oct 26, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe not 50%
but he got pressured an awful lot
by jdol1568 on Oct 26, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just remember
when he had thrown 25 passes they put up a stat and it was 2 sacks, 7 hurries, and 5 knock downs which is over half of his dropbacks at the time.
either way I think the dolphins out-schemed us today cuz even when he had time there was no one apparently open or Trent didn’t see anyone open.
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Oct 26, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a few quick thoughts
right now because I am just too pissed off to make any rational expressions.
The Jets game has me terrified right now. Favre is a master of the dink and dunky crap that has eaten us up this year. The Jets WR’s are comparable to Miami’s but hopefully our DB’s will be healthy next week.
TE absolutely, positively, MUST be addressed this offseason. I don’t care if it’s a draft pick, trade, practice squad, whatever. Royal is done here.
Worst playcalling of the year. Why did Trent run on that 3 and 1. Where is Marshawn? He was the #12 pick for a reason folks.
Our lines have regressed and the DE’s on our team are not very good.
by RabidBuffalo on Oct 26, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Except Bryan, he actually showed up to play out of all our DEs
Who else thinks we should give Copeland a little more PT next game to see what happens? It was telling to me when they benched Kelsay for Bryan late in the game.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on Oct 26, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
QB didn't need to keep it on 3rd & a long 1
The BEAST could carry the whole line 3 feet…or bounce it outside, like he does, for a sizable gain. Either way, you don’t put a QB in that situation and have him extend the ball into a pile…didn’t last year teach us anything (JP in Jax)?! I guess if you don’t learn from your mistakes, you really are doomed to repeat them. Doesn’t the average play in the NFL go for about 5 yards(?)…if that is the case, then a 4th & 1 (which with a good spot would have been 4th and inches) should be certainly convertible with a monster in the backfield, or another sneak.
by Tatunka on Oct 26, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man Perry Fewell is pretty bad. The guy just doesn’t adjust or make any changes out there. How many times can you let Ted F’in Ginn run a 15 yards hook? Seriously, what is up with this guy? He is soooooo bad and has been for most of his time here.
And I have no idea why McGee was out there all day. I don’t want to hear about Youboty being inactive and having only 4 CB’s. Well, we only had THREE last week with McGee out and Youboty as an active inactive. We were facing a MUCH better passing game last week and did enough to win. This week against the vaunted Dolphins passing game, we decide to let them do what they want. Unreal.
I’m sick of seeing us outcoached every other game or so. It’s pretty much Fewell each time too. Weak link anyone?
Oh how I wish we had even one guy who could rush the passer. Is that too much to ask for?
~K
by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts
1. Bad coaching. We did not look prepared and did not make good adjustments. We do not usually run up the middle worth a crap, we did not learn to run block in the off week, and Turk’s play calling seems to be getting more conservative. We did not challenge their pass D by throwing long. Again, not enough long passes. Some, but not enuff. On D, we played a prevent D all day. Why oh why do we play such a soft pass D all the time? Fear? I don’t know if McGee’s leg is healed or not, he should have had safety help after the first Ginn reception. Also, I did not see enough blitzes from Mitchell. With Pennington at QB, I’d blitz much more.
2. Trent had an off day. His pass to Hardy early was way out of bounds and I saw him several times today throw to receivers that were standing still (had completed their route). Mostly too late with the ball.
3. I now clearly recognize the value of Josh Reed. Our answer to him going out was to use Lee to move the chains. Not exactly using your personnel to best advantage. And it hurt our ability to use Lee properly. After Josh left, how many times did we throw deep?
4. If your center position is as weak as ours, why try to run it up the gut so often? This, to me, is a fundamental coaching mistake. Stay outside the guards and go with the percentages.
On the bright side, I like the way we rotate our players in and out. ANd good to see Ellis in there.
I’m not sure McGee’s play was due to his leg. Most of the blame should rest with our ridiculous D game plan and lack of adjustments. We should be playing our CB’s close enough to the line to chuck their receivers. We played scared today. That is NOT playing to win. If we play that soft against Favre, we will lose. He will dink and dunk us all day just like Chad.
everything goes better with bacon
by keuka121 on Oct 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sick of these defensive game plans. They stink. You can’t take CB’s who are better in bump and run and put them 10-15 yards off the ball. In fact, you can’t put any CB that far off the ball and expect any success. Perry Fewell just doesn’t get it. 2 years ago, our pass D was atrocious the first half of the season. After he started playing McGee and Clements up on the line more, the passing D improved. I just don’t understand what he’s trying to do out there. You can’t just keep giving offense’s easy 10 yard completions….
~K
by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Fewell doesn't start making adjustments,
the Bills are going to finish poorly. Someone will have to take the fall. Fewell is at the top of the list, deservedly so. Who is out there, maybe an out of work head coach, to take his place?
by Joe P. on Oct 26, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see if he can fix the issues with this group before we start searching for his replacement, shall we? His defenses, for all of their statistical suckiness, still don’t give up many points, especially proportionally. The D keeps the team in games, even when they’re struggling. Does it need to get better? Frick yes it does. Do we need to start talking about new defensive coordinators? Not yet.
by Brian Galliford on Oct 26, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think were
10th in total yardage until today or something.
by jdol1568 on Oct 26, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't he had that chance already?
The issue to me is the lack of adjustments. If we were getting beat because of lack of talent, then Fewell gets a pass. Last year, with the injuries and lack of talent, I never once put blame on Fewell but actually defended him. This season he has no excuses. He needs to put his players in a position to succeed. He needs to make adjustments as the game unfolds. He should have been able to see McGee was not ready very early in the game. He should have learned a few lessons from the AZ game on how to stop the short/medium passing game.
Notice I am not calling for Turk’s head. The four turnovers were not his fault. Most of his play calling is good. He still is missing a good C, TE, and a #2 WR.
by Joe P. on Oct 26, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Joe
Fewell just trots them out there early in the game and continues with the same plan regardless of how it’s working. I HATE that. Make an adjustment man. That’s what good coaches do.
Turk may slowly start losing his luster. There have been a number of questionable play calls of late that reek of conservative stinkatude. 1st and goal inside the 5 and we run it up the gut 3 times and then kick a FG no less on 4th and less than 1. Some weird play calls later on, especially on 3rd downs, really hurt us too. And where are the outside runs? They seem to work every time we run them….
~K
by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turk has room for improvement,
but I am willing to give him some time, maybe it is because Fairchild was soooooo bad. Turk’s playcalling has not lost us football games.
by Joe P. on Oct 26, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
most definitely, but he’s starting to show some chinks in the armor. He’s still learning though, so he definitely deserves the benefit of the doubt….let’s hope he learns from his mistakes.
I just hate some of the conservative playcalling that we’ve been seeing….that’s what irks me
~K
by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, call him out all you want. But to say “Who’s out there to replace him?” is premature. That’s all I’m saying.
by Brian Galliford on Oct 27, 2008 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just comin by to say good game
Idk who the guys playing in our secondary were, must have been invasion of the bodysnatchers. but good game overall, and I still hope you guys mop the floor with the Jets next week.
Cheers
we like Jet Blue, we stay hella high
by chrislucas on Oct 26, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Although I wished our team hadn’t made quite so many mistakes in the 4th quater yesterday. I think it would have been much closer, maybe a photo finish at the end.
All in all (although it pains me to say it), your team played the better game yesterday, and earned what they got.
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on Oct 27, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I blame the offense today
I’m so tired of teams playing poorly on the road. Not just the Bills either. Like Denver in NE and Arizona in NY and DC. What is up with that? I mean its nice to watch Buffalo beat up on San Diego and Seattle, but is the league really that sensitive to travel??
This was my first chance to watch a game in a few weeks and I actually thought the defense was playing decent, not great but survivable. But I thought there were several dropped passes in the first half that were drive killers and that really gave the game away. They should have been up by a couple touchdowns by half., that would have helped the D out immensely.
by south123 on Oct 26, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank God for travel
Thankfully, I was out of town for the weekend and was driving back to Rochester on Sunday during the game. When I finally got close enough to listen to the game on the radio, the Bills had squandered a 9 point lead and Trent was busy gift wrapping turnovers for Miami.
Since I wasn’t able to watch or listen (for most of the game), I won’t get into too much detail, but I will comment on coaching.
I’m not a huge fan of Jauron. He’s a steady as we go coach and the players seem to like playing for him. However, he’s consistently a terrible game day coach (we’re going to start challenging punts now?). The common excuse for Jauron and the coaching staff is always, “The players always come to play for him…” I’m pretty sure we can stop using that excuse now. In both their losses, the Bills barely showed up to the stadium, let alone played four solid quarters of football. We are now almost half way through the season, and the Bills have played two games where they actually played 60 minutes of quality football.
I’m not calling for Jauron’s head (or any other coach’s for that matter), simply because I think they’ve made their bed with this coaching staff and they are going to have to live with it. Consistency with coaching staffs is key in the NFL, and changing schemes at this point is only going to set this young roster back. But, I think everyone needs to reserve themselves to the fact that 1) the Bills are going occasionally lose games where they are simply outcoached and not completely prepared to play, and 2) Stop saying “The players really come to play for Jauron” because I think we’ve all seen that is obviously not the case.
by thatguy34 on Oct 27, 2008 9:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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