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Bills failing schedule, divisional tests


Greer, Bills face uphill climb (Associated Press)

Back on October 13, as the Buffalo Bills were coming off of a much-needed bye week with a 4-1 record, I wrote a piece proclaiming that the team's next four games would be the most critical stretch on the team's schedule.  My rationale?  It had a lot to do with what we like to call "controlling your own destiny".

The Bills failed in just about every way during that four-game stretch.

Sure, the Bills started the stretch off with an impressive home win over the San Diego Chargers.  Things were looking golden for the Bills - at 5-1, the team sat alone atop the standings in the AFC East, and controlled their own destiny with three straight divisional games.  The Bills had their division by the proverbial cojones.

Then the Bills promptly lost all three of those divisional games.  They didn't even lose three divisional games in 2007, a year in which they finished 7-9.  They're 0-3 in the division, every other AFC East team has at least two divisional wins, and the Bills - in just three weeks - have gone from first to worst in their division.  The ultimate stinger, however, is that that whole "controlling your own destiny" thing has gone straight out the window.  The combined records of the Patriots, Jets and Dolphins over the past three weeks?  8-1.

Bills now facing uphill climb
Prepare yourself to hear a barrage of "we're not out of it yet" arguments from the most optimistic of Bills fans and reporters.  In a sense, it's true - the Bills are in a huge hole in the division, but they're still only technically a game out of the division lead, and their schedule is "favorable".  The only issue is that each of their division rivals' schedule is just as "favorable".

The problems have gone beyond wins and losses over the past month, as well.  In going 1-3 in that crucial four-game stretch, Buffalo's opponents exposed a lot of weaknesses that the Bills had covered up during a 4-0 start to the season.  We've been over a lot of them ad nauseum - offensive predictability; poor play in the trenches; turnovers, penalties and crucial mistakes; terrible coaching.  It's all there.  Those aren't going to magically disappear just because of the "favorable" schedule the Bills play.  When those issues can't be erased from within, any NFL team will beat you.

In short, LB Kawika Mitchell has it right - the team needs an attitude adjustment.  Jerry Sullivan of The Buffalo News is quite correct in pointing out that the poor play of Trent Edwards has shaken the Bills' foundation.  These, folks, are the same old Buffalo Bills; 2008 has just added a dash of unyielding optimism to wrench our guts a little harder than usual.

What needs to change
I'm expecting a few chuckles at this headline, because in order to save time, we should probably be talking about what doesn't need to change.  There are three issues, however, that can be addressed right now that may actually allow the Bills to, at the very least, regain some respectability:

#1: Play calling - This is a topic I plan on exploring further tomorrow morning.  Buffalo's offense has become as easy to read as a Dr. Seuss limerick.  Formationally, the Bills are giving away their intentions on about 90% of their plays - and that was as of two weeks ago; nothing has changed since.  They've abandoned the run too quickly, despite not losing any of their last three games by more than 10 points.  The predictability is, at least in part, responsible for the bad play of the offensive line - it's hard to block defenders who know what's about to happen.  It's gotten so bad that I have officially begun to refer to the Bills' offensive coordinator as Turk Schonert-Fairchild-Mularkey.  So if you see "T S-F-M" around these parts, thats who I'm referring to.  (What's more, Mularkey is now mentoring the best young QB in the game, Atlanta's Matt Ryan.  The football gods hate us.)

#2: Turnovers - I don't care how confusing an opponents' defense is.  Edwards was befuddled by Bill Belichick and the Patriots on Sunday; that doesn't excuse his two interceptions.  You can expect to see the Bills continue to employ their "hang in there" approach, practiced so inefficiently in New England, until Edwards proves he can take care of the ball - something he did so well early in his career that it led to the expulsion of J.P. Losman.

#3: Play to win - I'm not an advocate of the approach outlined above.  Good teams overcome mistakes, and the Bills did it earlier in the season on more than one occasion.  Why?  The Bills were balls to the wall those weeks; in short, they were playing to win.  The losing streak has caused Buffalo's coaching staff to scale back the aggressiveness; this is the wrong approach.  You have to show confidence in your young guys.  Only confidence will allow them to overcome mistakes and continue to mature into good, young football players.  Right now, Buffalo's coaching staff isn't showing a lot of confidence in their players, hence they're not playing to win.  They're playing to survive.  If that doesn't change, the losses will continue to pile up.

Consider this your "open gripe thread".  We don't need the negativity spread across the whole blog when we can contain it in one, oh-so-happy gripe fest, right here.  Share your thoughts on Buffalo's misfortune, and anything else you'd like to get off your chest, right here in what is now an open gripe thread.

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Jauron's Press Conference

I just watched it and have one thought. When is he ever going to show emotion, good or bad? When Wade Phillips loses, he actually looks and seems totally heartbroken. Bill Cowher and Bill Parcells were just pissed off by losses and didn’t seem to ever satisfied about wins either. Jeff Fisher is showing total and genuine pride in his team. Jauron is way too even keeled whether the Bills win, lose or lose badly. He also looks like he can’t be that ass-kickin’ motivator these young guys need.

by JTM1023 on Nov 10, 2008 9:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

he’s like paint watching paint dry

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 10, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no way

paint can do exciting stuff :)

don’t be dissing paint

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he’s like paint watching paint dry

That has gotta be the funniest line of my day

by MonStarr_716 on Nov 10, 2008 6:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jauron

I agree wholeheartedly that it would be so nice to have a coach that showed some emotion…ANY emotion. It can be absolutely painful to watch him sometimes.

With that said, his style is instead to let his coordinators do the yelling and screaming. He is the President of the company, and he lets his CEOs be the ones to really do the pep talks.

Rarely do the cameras show Fewell and Schonert (and Schonert can’t really get guys fired up while in the box)…anyone else know their personalities?

by labby blue on Nov 10, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what bugs me

is he said how we are 5-4 this year and that is better than where we were teh last 2 years….It’s like he knows what the prognosticators think, and anything better than that he feels like he is winning…..DJ, stop worrying about what the MEDIA/FANS think and start motivating this team. He is really starting to piss me off with his non-charismatic post-game pressers in which the same old company line is totted. ACCOUNTABILITY needs to be had, and it starts with Jauron. I am a big backer of the guy and his philosophy but we HAVE NOT SEEN JAURON style football lately. Whether you hate him or back him, the football lately has been lacking any discipline, structure, or anything that should resemble a NFL Team

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Nov 10, 2008 9:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

is he said how we are 5-4 this year and that is better than where we were teh last 2 years

Not to mention it’s blatantly false. We were 5-4 in 2007; the difference was, we were 5-4 on 4 straight wins, whereas this year we’re 5-4 with 3 straight losses.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 10, 2008 9:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I said it last week. He says this every week, after every loss. He makes it appear as if losing is okay because we’ve won 5 games up to this point. Obviously, we have no idea what he says in the locker room, but players play as an extension of their coach’s personality. When your coach is ho-hum, your players play ho-hum.

I’m surprised he didn’t use the old, “Well, obviously we’d like to be 9 and 0, but we’ll take 5-4 at this point.”

by thatguy34 on Nov 10, 2008 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Trent has to get out of his slump

Had Trent played the last 3 games like he played the first 4 we probably would have a 6 and 1 record and in sole possesion of 1st place in the AFC East. The reality of this team is we need our offense to win games because our defense is not good enough to carry the offense now and then.

by gjv on Nov 10, 2008 9:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Question- What is a QBs best friend?

Answer – A running game.

To much on Edwards shoulders. Teams know we can’t run the ball or pass block for very long. I could call be the DC vs the Bills. It is to easy.

by Joe P. on Nov 10, 2008 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RE: QBs best friend
Answer – A running game.

Actually I would say that it is a good O-Line. because a good O-Line will protect him when he has to pass and help to create that running that you spoke of.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Nov 10, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely need an O-line,

but the only other acceptable answer is a TE. Thanks for playing :-)

by Joe P. on Nov 10, 2008 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

actually

I think our defense should be applauded for a great defensive effort against a very good offense. Until the very end of the game they held New England to 13 points, think about that. How does the offense, with those lousy excuses for o-linemen respond? With 3 points??? 3 points until one late garbage score. friggin 3!!!!

Also, its time to accept that Edwards is regressing in the face of having no running game and that a major star talent is going to waste with out any blocking.

Edwards’ first interception was just awful. It was his mistake and no one elses. He threw it high and behind Lee Evans who had space a step on the defender and probably would have scampered for six. That is an opportunity you can not miss with a throw that poor.

If our response to having no running game is going to be its abandonment in favor of non-aggressive pass plays then I’d rather force the rock on Marshawn and at least try to get the ground game working.

We never run and hence we never call play action. The combination of a good but young and inexperienced QB, an absolute grinder at HB and a WR with blazing speed should make the play action deep attack a staple of this offense.

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Nov 10, 2008 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Time of possession

There were things to like about the D certainly, and most of the blame falls on the shoulders of the O, but c’mon, get the Patriots off the field. NE Drive charts:

Drive 1: 3 min, 9 sec (7 plays, TD)
Drive 2: 4 min, 21 sec (7 plays)
Drive 3: 1 min, 48 sec (7 plays, FG)
Drive 4: 4 min, 46 sec (11 plays)
Drive 5: 55 sec (3 plays, End of half)
Drive 6: 6 min, 49 sec (13 plays, FG)
Drive 7: 3 min, 13 sec (6 plays)
Drive 8: 1 min, 52 sec (5 plays, fumble)
Drive 9: 9 min, 8 sec (19 plays, TD)
Drive 10: 1 min, 42 sec (3 plays, End of game)

The D definitely wasn’t exhausted after the first half, the time of possession actually favored the Bills in the first half (Bills 15:04, Patriots 14:56).

by PozDispenser on Nov 10, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In an effort to find a positive

Ralf will not fire Jauron because he is intentionally trying to drive down the price of the Bills so Jim Kelly et al. will be able to afford to buy the Bills and keep them from moving to Toronto. Anyone buying that?

by Joe P. on Nov 10, 2008 10:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

and the Bills – in just three weeks – have gone from worst to first in their division.

If this were the case this discussion would be moot.

by XtrmeCarnage82 on Nov 10, 2008 10:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

OMG, thank you. I KNEW I was going to do that, and tried so hard not to, but I failed.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 10, 2008 10:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

technically....

that happened in one week

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 10, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Coaches

are only really as good as their players and depth. I am frustrated as heck with Fewell because we keep hearing how they weren’t ready for the quick game with Arizona, or how the patriots messed with their heads by putting unexpected personnel groupings out there. On the other hand, we have a very, very, young secondary and the defense is still a top 15 defense.

I’m worried that the coaches will get thrown under the bus. I remember how Kevin Gilbride was run out of town for his crazy system and now he’s an offense genius with the Giants. Also, Mularkey’s brilliance has returned with the Falcons. I think we should hold the coaches accountable but be careful not to run them out of town because ultimately this coaching staff and team will be very successful. (BTW, I’m not advocating a return of either one of those men—it’s just that the grass is always greener . . . and if it really is greener on the other side, it means they have a higher water bill).

by Ono on Nov 10, 2008 10:52 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Fabulous comment. Well said.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 10, 2008 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

completely disagree

Look at Ted Cottrell in SD. Massive talent (even minus merriman) and he still got canned.

Look at the Pats:

Hasn’t started much in 10 years – very very green.
Behind a patchwork offensive line
Who’s their running back?

Yet they overcome those because of proper and good coaching. The pats play to the strengths of their players who are in the game and take away the oppositions strengths.

We are NOT fundamentally sound because of coaching. DJ is not a good coach and will never be. He will NOT take the Bills to the playoffs this decade.

It is a poorly coached team and you can see that week in and week out.

Think about the last game – welkers foot out, time out on the punt at end of half (whattt??).

3rd and 1 – shot gun lets throw.

it is a poorly coached team, the coaches are not good and a majority of the players are very very mediocre.

The writing has been ont he walls for some time. their wins were built on a house of cards and only now is everyone realizing this.

why? it has been there infront of your eyes the whole season.

we haven’t beat a playoff team since 2003 against the pats. and probably wouldn’t have if bledosoe didnt’ come.

please people, be rational, be objective. our team blows

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 11:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

on another note

look at Miami and Atlanta

less skilled players than we have even though a majority are mediocre at best. yet their winning? why? coaches playing to their strengths and out coaching other teams.

for f*** sake….look at it

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

also

Lewis from the Ravens says:

"I don’t play against offenses,‘’ he said. "I play against offensive coordinators.’’

this week in MMQB

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

thats Ray lewis

"He prides himself in knowing when plays will be called. He thinks it helps him as much as the physical preparation for the game. "

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 11:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

furthermore

The key is that the coaching staff developed a system and a personality for the offense with Cassel filling in for the injured Tom Brady.

Since getting the starting job, Cassel has been going to Wes Welker six to 10 times a game. Over the past four games, he’s been getting five to seven passes to Randy Moss. The system is working.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/notebook?page=lastcall08/week10

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Feel better now? (Not a jibe, I’m seriously concerned. :) )

I don’t think your Cottrell point is valid, because he got fired by a desperate coach (Norv Turner) doing anything to save his job. Everything else, I won’t argue, because I’ve done it a billion times before. Your opinion is a popular one.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 10, 2008 11:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea i'm pissed

and i do feel better now. thanks

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Accept that it’s hard not to throw Schonert under the bus (and when we throw him under there, should that be done from the shotgun too?) This offense has talent, but his ridiculously predictable play-calling is putting them in almost impossible to succeed situations.

by thatguy34 on Nov 10, 2008 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Except instead of Accept. I’m too pissed right now to focus on grammar.

by thatguy34 on Nov 10, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brian, I agree with your 3 major things that need to change..

I was thinking this morning that Walker did pretty good filling in at Left tackle in the beginning of the season, he really did well against one of the premier DE’s (Kerney). So why not switch him back to LT and send Peters to the RT or maybe even try peters at RG ? Peters has not been doing well this year and maybe he needs a change of scenery. He is way more agressive/athletic than Whittle/Chambers/Preston. At this point they need to pull out some stops.

by keysh67 on Nov 10, 2008 10:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

At least one improvement can be made in the passing game

Stop throwing the ball to Robert Royal! Get Fine in the passing game instead!

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Nov 10, 2008 11:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Coaching makes no sense

Another thing that is really pissing me off is the ludacris third down play calling. It seemed like we had a 3 and 1 4 or 5 times this games only to line up in the shotgun and not convert. Then, after a great drive by the offense to get within scoring range, we have a 3 and 4 from inside the ten and we run it and get stopped.

So let me get this straight, we don’t trust our running game to convert a 3 and inches but then when we need points we run it on 3 and 4? Why not, instead of doing it at the end of the game when its meaningless, throw the ball up for grabs to Hardy on 3 and 4, apparently it could have worked. And while we are at, instead of throwing to Roscoe on 3 and 1 for an incompletion, why don’t we then let Marshawn grind out the first?

It makes no sense! No sense at all!

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Nov 10, 2008 11:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

At a minimum

at least if we are going to throw on 3rd & 1 then do it off of play-action

by keysh67 on Nov 10, 2008 12:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DOES

ANYONE REMEMBER ON FRIGGN PLAY-ACTION???? I mean it was unreal. The offense is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There. I said it. Anyone can get ticked at the defense, but in my mind that is ludicrous. If this Defense could ever play WITH a LEAD, then I think they would play much better as well. But playing from behind every stink’n game, losing T.O.P, and leaving our defense out to dry is not a way to win football games. From the start of the season to now and to our future. THIS IS ALL ON TRENT/TURK. You can sprinkle in DJ, but he has no clue about offense anyhow. I say bring back Marv Levy and let him coach the damn team

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Nov 10, 2008 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

And what about some no-huddle? Lets dictate to the opponents D a little.

by PozDispenser on Nov 10, 2008 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh hell yea

go two minute drill.

how often do you see other teams and even the bills do very very well when their running the no huddle. the defense can’t substitute as fast and goes into a base defense.

its a good plan

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree

with the sentiment about agressiveness as it pertains to the youth. Time and time again it has been shown that coaching faith in a young player’s ability is key to bringing out the best in them.

It’s really not too late to revert to this approach and I fully expect to see these guys “let loose” in the coming weeks. What do they have to lose?

I’m not as fatalistic as your average BIlls fan because I just hopped on the bandwagon, so I have no qualms in pointing out that this thing is far from over. Don’t write ’em off yet.

by Omerta on Nov 10, 2008 12:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It’s really not too late to revert to this approach and I fully expect to see these guys "let loose" in the coming weeks. What do they have to lose?

I’d love to believe this and I really hope you’re right, but what did they have to lose last week in opening in up? They needed wins the past 3 weeks, and each of the past 3 weeks we’ve seen no change in the coaching staffs conservative approach (minus the fake punt that was ultimately called back).

by thatguy34 on Nov 10, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The joys of a Buffalo Bills griper

Brian, don’t "contain" our griping to just this thread. Griping is what sports is all about, especially for us who have lived years in Western New York. Hey, for many years that’s all we have. Bills (and Sabres) fans are great gripers! With no Super Bowl victories and no Stanley Cups, we have a proud history of legitimate complaints! We are compassionate fans who care about our teams and griping is a great tool to let off steam. Deep inside, we are always hopeful but it’s more fun to gripe about the game than say, "yeah, we won," although we would prefer the latter.

You think you are pissed off this morning? You should have heard us back in the late ‘60s early ‘70s when the Bills were:
 4-10 (1967),
1-12 (1968),
4-10 (1969),
 3-10-1 (1970),
 1-13 (1971)
 and 4-9 (1972).

Man, those were the good ‘ole days for people who love to complain daily about the Bills. Our pissing-and-moaning went on for the whole week!

I had big shoes to fill; my dad was one of the worst. He still is, but now he lives in Florida and gripes about the hated Miami Dolphins (if they win). In fact, if the Dolphins win, he throws out the next day’s paper and won’t turn on his TV until Tuesday. I guess Bills fans don’t mellow with age: at 90, he’s fifty times worse than when he was 35.

Anyway, I’d rather win, of course, but if we lose it’s always fun to air out our frustrations on the dumb-ass-but-beloved Bills. This board has some very smart fans (including you) who are good at griping and have excellent points. It’s fun to read and helps keep our sanity after another frustrating Sunday. Thanks to all the people here for their comments. I’ve been on other boards and I’m sincere when I say this is one of the more intelligent and adult-behaving ones.

P.S. I still blame 85 percent of our troubles on our pathetic offensive line and weak coaching staff and I will gripe to my heart’s content about it to anyone fool enough to listen to me.

by ccthemovieman on Nov 10, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m not containing it to just one thread… I’m trying to contain it to just one thread today. Big difference. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 10, 2008 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As bad as this team has played the last three games, there is no way Brian could contain all the griping.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Nov 10, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was saying all that in jest

about “containing.” Hey, we need to vent here and there…..and we have plenty to vent about recently, although it could be a lot worse, like those years I point out (and subsequent 2-14 seasons).

Keep up the good work!

by ccthemovieman on Nov 10, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no, I realize that. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 10, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

without

this blog i don’t know how I’d make it….living as a Bills fan in Minneapolis, and like many of us on this site are displaced Bills fans, having a community to vent is crucial. I mean, my friends who are all Vikings fans just don’t understand although our two squads have many similarities. In fact when teh Bills lose, I hope to see the Vikings lose cuz there is nothing worse than when your buddy is on could 9 and you are a ticking time bomb ready to go off at any sec…..

But, come next Monday it will be alright, Come Monday 1st place will be in sight. Cuz if it isn’t, THERE WILL BE RIOTS AT THE RALPH

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Nov 10, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

New gameplan

If the Bills do the following I believe they can be successful:

1. Pick a formation and stick to it. They could run hundreds of different plays from the very same formation. Shotgun or I, to run all the plays from small variations would eliminate predictability. Too bad the tape can’t really show them which ones play to Marshawn’s or Trent’s strengths because they pass from one and run from the other. It would do the Bills a lot of good to pick a drive in the next game and go all run. There was a drive in yesterday’s game I believe at the start of the fourth quarter where they ran Marshawn a few times in a row with success and then pulled him to facilitate the demise of the drive. Maybe a “JUMBO” goal line package all the way down the field. Call me old school, but it’s always thrilling to see a team assert their will in that fashion.

2. Past the fifty yard line, 5:00 left in first half or anytime in the second half, NO PUNTING!!.. I believe this stance falls under the Play to Win category.

by syrbillsfan on Nov 10, 2008 2:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe

that we’re all smarter than the coaches, we come up with all these opions as to what’s wrong with this team, way can’t they see it and if they do why is it not corrected? We all better get accounstomed to it because dicky boy is here for the next 4-5 years and I couldn’t agree more that his press conferances are all the same you only have to listen to one to hear them all it’s the same week in and week out it never changes he’s driving me nuts, whats the worst this year is that we got sucked in to thinking that we had a real team this year they just went in the tank later than usual. Why does Trent get in the offence lines face even during a game you see it from other QB in the league who don’t like getting hit because some bozo misses a block you can’t just shrug your sholders and say it’s my fault I held the ball to long call these guys out. like Leo d said nice guys finish last. I need to see some passion from this team nobody seems pissed accept us fans. They go to work and accept being bad they get these hugh pay checks and have no pride in there work. The largest line in the league and they should be blowing ever team off the line. It’s let get this over so I can go home with my pay who gives a sh1t if we win I get paid wheather we do or don’t. I am so fed up with these players. God I’ve never been this pissed with a Bills team before. There just letting this year go out the window.

Bills Fan in PA

by BILLS on Nov 10, 2008 2:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

End of the first half

Honestly nothing frustrated me more during the NE game than the last drive before the end of the first half. I understand we were only down by 7, but we were moving the ball, had gotten our first points on the previous drive, and had just had Gostkowski miss a FG. There’s only 1:24 left, you badly need to continue the momentum, you only need a yard….and we punt. I can understand the logically why you do so, but emotionally, the team needed that victory.

by PozDispenser on Nov 10, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

TE is the most boring QB to ever start in the NFL. He has never seen a check down he could ignore. Get the snap, look 40 yards down the field and immediately look to dump it off. I would rather lose with JP. At least he was exciting to watch. Edwards puts me to sleep. 5.2 yards per attempt is a friggin’ joke. Name the last time he threw to a reciever who wasn’t standing still or two yards from the sideline. Name the last time any of our wideouts caught the ball on the run for some YAC.

by bflobob8 on Nov 10, 2008 4:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you think Edwards is boring, you clearly never saw Rob Johnson play.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 10, 2008 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i've erased that

from my memory. Rob who?

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

on a side note

ummmm…..two names. Chad Pennington and Matt Cassell. thats how they play…..and win i might add

by J2 on Nov 10, 2008 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I think the most boring QB to start in the NFL this year would be Kerry Collins. Most boring QB ever? Hm…Trent Dilfer, Rick Mirer, Andrew Walter? I don’t know, tough for me to say. I have a very short memory.

I’m not sure TE is even the most boring QB to ever play for the Bills. I would have to go with Kelly Holcomb, Craig Nall, or AVP. I disagree that Rob Johnson was boring though. Something always exciting happened when RJ was in, it just wasn’t usually exciting for Bills fans.

And if you want to watch an exciting team that loses, you might consider becoming a Raiders fan. Between the weirdos in the stands, 73 yards field goals, Al Davis press conferences, and DeAngelo Hall waiting in the tunnel at halftime to fight one of his ex-teammates (allegedly), I think that’s about all the excitement you could ask for.

by thatguy34 on Nov 10, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Receivers can't

YAC when the ball bounces 3 yds in front/behind them. With J.P.’s happy feet, he should be on “Dancing with the Stars”!

by Joe P. on Nov 12, 2008 11:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Now for some Godfather quotes:
I’m not asking for help, Michael, just take off the handcuffs.

That one’s for you Turk. Stop being so dang predictable and make it difficult for Defenses to predict what you’re doing. Bring some variation to the O….screens, slants, outside runs, end arounds, a trick play, whatever. Just try!

It’s not personal, Sonny. It’s strictly business.

I don’t hate you as a man Dick, just as a head coach. Strictly football. I wish you would make adjustments, try something different, force your coordinators to make changes, be a more aggressive leader, light a fire under these guys, etc…

Only don’t tell me you’re innocent. Because it insults my intelligence and makes me very angry.

To Dick Jauron, stop telling us that 5-4 is better than last year or other years. Expectations should have been higher this year and after 3 straight stinkers, saying garbage like that just insults Bills fans’ intelligence and ticks us off.

Women and children can be careless. But not men.

Quit the mistakes gentlemen! Making the same stupid errors over and over is infuriating!

The Don: I like to drink wine more than I used to.
Michael: It’s good for you, Pops
The Don: ANyway, I’m drinking more.

That’s like us watching the Bills this year! We are drinking more and more to feel better about this junk!

And what a win vs Cleveland might mean:

Just when I thought I was out… they pull me back in.

Hopes will be up again, playoff possibilities may return, yet I still see us disappointed soon after. That’s the life of a Bills fan I guess….

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 10, 2008 5:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great Post

You summed it up like it should be, and was amusing as well.

by JTM1023 on Nov 10, 2008 5:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that was

great therapy. I just can’t stand the suffering…I was out in Buffalo last week and I swear….when I see the faces on some of the people there from being Bills’ fans for their lifetimes, I see faces that have years taken off their lives bc of this depressing crap we always have to deal with. And then at the same time, the unity, the togetherness, the fellowship and bond that we all have makes it all worth it….oh and a playoff game would be nice as well. This season is NOT OVER. NOT OVER MY DEAD BODY! COME ON GUYS! DIG DOWN DEEP…..watch Hoosiers again and again, or listen to the Rocky song all week….but do something to give us an extra spark on MNF!

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Nov 10, 2008 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If this was in a FanPost, it’d be on the front page… (hint hint)

Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more

by Brian Galliford on Nov 10, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

first

I find TE to be pretty exciting, at least most of the time. Yesterday was an exception. Which leads to…

second

Since this is the designated “open gripe thread,” I have to mention how helpful it is to have some other people to vent with. I would be lost in a dark place today without the ability to express thoughts like this: “AAAAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggg!! MUTHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaRRRRRRRRRRRRR uv JEEEZeeee?%$#&$# For ThE LOve of BAAALLLLZZZZZ PUUULLLLEEEEzzzzz WhERE’s the mercY??”

Sweet home Orchard Park.

by thurman on Nov 10, 2008 5:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why gripe guys and gals?

This Bills football, (Buffalo Sports for that matter) We all should have known what to expect. If you didn’t know that this was gonna happen, you are not a Bills fan. This numb feeling in my gut is just all too familiar.

I save my anger for game days, then wallow in sorrow for the rest of the week. I’m normally good come Thursday/Friday.

I’m from Buffalo and I make it home at least twice a year. I love my city and the people, but sadly, the Bills are a reflection of the town they play for. So much potential, yet constantly mismanaged and going nowhere. Largely ignored, and nobody wants to stay there.

I can’t believe I just typed that

But hey, there is always next week. I will ride and die with my team (and my city for that matter) Go Bills!

by MonStarr_716 on Nov 10, 2008 5:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Talent

I think the Talent is there overall but the problem is the QB position and the coaches are not game planning together. The best way to win is let your D and special teams do it. There are no excuse not to have lynch run the ball 20 times and Fred Jackson 10 times. Therefore, you give your D a chance. Just keep pounding the run. My concern is that Jauron is only a D coordinator and cant help the offense. Is it possible that Edwards is incapable of throwing passes from under center. I mean it is a different dynamic than in shotgun, maybe they have seen him mess it up so many times in practice that they decided he will only throw from Shotgun. It can be diffult to read D’s while dropping back…maybe he hasn’t developed that…I dont know. Either way if the offense is going to be predictable then just pound it and try to wear down the D, and then switch to shotgun in the 2nd half.

A side theory of mine: NFL QBs who were not winners in college do not become winners in the pros. Best QBs today are Brees, Manning, Eli, Brady, ROth, Collins, McNabb, Ryan all won or had a decent winning %. Of course there is the rare exception (Cant think of one off the top of my head maybe Warner). Trent was a loser in college and now it is showing in the pros. So was JP. If the answer to Trent is NOT JP than time to find a veteran or draft a winner with the physical skills. Jim Kelly was a college winner, same with Montana, Marino, Young, Aikman, even Flutie, the list goes on and on.

by Berg79 on Nov 10, 2008 6:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brady couldn’t beat out Drew Henson.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Nov 10, 2008 6:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Brady lead Michigan to their national championship. I will have to double check that but I am fairly certain Brady did well in terms of wins and losses at Mich.

by Berg79 on Nov 10, 2008 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brady never won a National Title. According to this he didn’t play until his senior year, because as I said he couldn’t beat out Drew Hensen.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Nov 10, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He was awesome in ’99 leading them to a 10 and 2 record.

by Berg79 on Nov 10, 2008 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Time for a new "foolproof" strategy...

This is the year of creativity in the NFL. Miami brought the wildcat to the pro’s…it’s time for Buffalo to make it’s mark. I call it the Turk Tumble. Much of the failures of any team can be attributed to the play of their offensive line. The Bills mammoth line has proven, definitively and without a doubt, that they can not run block. Their pass blocking isn’t always up to snuff as well, but that’s another matter. There is one strategy however, that takes advantage of their expansive girth. The scheme is simple. The Bills line up in a close formation with two tight ends in the backfield (split at the HB position) and one RB at FB. At the snap the TE’s rush toward the 2 gaps between the guards and center. The RB takes the hand off and hurls himself at the middle. Now the next part is the key to the whole plan. The 5 offensive linemen fall down, hopefully forward. By the time they get to the gaps, the TE’s should also fall down…something they are adept at, especially when they’re not dropping passes. The result would be a massive pile-up that no defender can break through. I suspect some defenders might even get caught under this massive human pile. Having trouble visualizing, just look back at the dinosaur stampede scene from the latest King Kong movie and you’ll get the idea. Using my infallible calculations, factoring in weight, height, velocity, draft, pregame meals and other important variables, I estimate that this would gain exactly, 3.34 yards each and every play. Assuming the Bills start at their own 20, a typical drive would consist of 24 plays and chew up about 18:50 in time. In the words of Gill (voice of Willhem Dafoe) to Nemo when describing his escape plan: “It’s foolproof”.

The best part of the whole approach is that it takes advantage of two of the offensive lines strengths, being big and falling down. Some Negative Nancy’s will say that this will make the game exceeding boring. Well, it’s true, but no more boring than the Bills have been these past few weeks, and a lot less painful for their fans. And it has the added benefit of helping the Bills actually win games. Imagine Randy Moss on the opposing sideline pulling out his hair waiting for nearly 19 minutes for his chance to get on the field. I tell you, some players will spontaneously combust; it’s happened before. Only the stoic unemotional Jauron could lead such a simple, predictable and utterly boring plot, that will become known world-wide as ….the Turk Tumble. During away games, fans will be heading for the exit as the utter futility of the Turk tumble is revealed…over and over again.

Alas, most Rumblers have retired for the evening and will never see this post…but Turk, if you’re out there…think about it…what better way to use your players greatest strengths.

by NJBill on Nov 10, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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