Bills/Browns: Keys to a Bills Victory
Buffalo Bills (5-4) vs Cleveland Browns (3-6)
Monday, November 17, 8:30PM EST
Well, as much as we don't we want to talk about it, this is a must-win. If the Bills have ANY desire of making the playoffs this year, this is a game they must win. A home Monday night game is a golden opportunity for the Bills to get back in the win column. Here's how they can do so:
Cut the stupid mistakes out: This involves both sides of the ball. Obviously, this team will never cut out all the mistakes they've made, but they can definitely minimize them. That's what they did earlier in the season, but have struggled to avoid the self-inflicted errors of late. We've seen what seems like a season's worth of turnovers, penalties, missed tackles, missed blocks and coaching blunders over the past 3 weeks. If we can minimize the mistakes, we won't simply give the game away like we've been doing.
Feed off the crowd (and not Dick Jauron): I expect the loudest, drunkest and insane crowd of the year Monday night. There should be an atmosphere very similar to the Cowboys MNF game from last year, though potentially a notch below that level. The team really needs to start feeding off of that and playing the type of inspired, tough and firey brand of football that the crowd will be looking for. If the crowd can do their part like they did last year, I expect good things to happen as a result. I just don't want to see this team come out uninspired, flat and timid like their head coach this week. That's a quick way to take the crowd out of it, that's for sure.
Run the freakin' ball!!!: The Browns are 26th against the rush this season, allowing 4.7 ypc and 145 yards per game. The chance to get the running game going, finally, is there this week. If we again run weak dives up the middle, and refuse to run it consistently, I doubt we will have much success. This is the weak to get back to the basics and really try to grind it out. The weather looks like it'll be a factor as right now my crystal ball (and weather.com) predicts temperatures in the 30's with a good chance of snow/rain. We will HAVE to run it this week, in fact.
Get the ball to Lynch, and do it often: Turk Schonert has done a good job limiting Lynch's touches this year, especially lately. Oh, did I say good job? I meant he's done a horrible job in keeping the ball out of Lynch's hands. We all have seen Lynch get better as the game progresses and he gets more carries. Instead, this year, Schonert seems very hesitant to give him the ball much in the 2nd half of games. Again, Turk, please go back to the basics! Utilize your best offensive player. Give him the ball more, run it more, throw him some screen passes, run him outside for once, try a couple pitches. Heck throw in a halfback pass if you have to. I don't care what you do, but get Lynch the ball more and get it to him in space more. We've all been begging for this. PLEASE!
Stop being so &#$*!% predictable on offense: Again, Turk, get back to the basics and quit trying to be cute. Brian's pointed out your fallacy in putting Trent under center or in the shotgun. Now it's time for you to finally adjust and keep the Defense off-guard. If we still see the run under center and pass from the shotgun ratios we've been seeing, we're going to struggle yet again. Beyond this, it'd be nice to see some play action, roll outs, delayed draws, end arounds, quick pitches, screens, etc. Open up the playbook STB, our season is riding on it!
Get the ball to Lee Evans: Weekly reminder. Evans has only gained 63 yards receiving the past 2 weeks, an obvious correlation to our offensive struggles. We had much greater success on offense earlier in the season when we were going deep to Evans more often. I would like to see us at least attempt to get him the ball downfield more this week. The Browns haven't been much better against the pass this year, allowing 225 ypg. Again, the opportunities will be there, we just have to take advantage of them.
Beat up Brady Quinn: In his first road start, Quinn needs to feel heat from more than just the frenzied crowd. Perry Fewell really needs to ratchet up the blitz this week and try to get after him. I want to see Kawika Mitchell standing over a freshly sacked Brady Quinn at least once this week. There's no reason to allow a young QB in his second start to get comfortable in front of the bright Monday night lights. It's going to also be important to shut down the short passing lanes. Obviously this is something the Bills prefer to allow as we've seen teams carve the D up underneath the past month or so. Last week, Quinn didn't attempt a pass further than 13 yards downfield, or something similar. He has success with the short passing game last week, and I'd hate to see him have success again this week.
Whatever happened to Roscoe?: Since week 1, Roscoe Parrish has a whopping 7 punt returns for just 52 yards. Since returning from his injury 4 games ago, he has 2 returns for 5 yards. Say what?!?! What happened to one of the best punt returners in the game? Actually, not much. It's the defense and return unit that seem to be struggling. The opportunities just haven't been there as the D has had more trouble getting off the field and getting off the field deep in opponent's territory. And when Roscoe does get the rare opportunity, he just isn't get any room to maneuver. Credit the opposition's punting team for keeping it out of his hands, but our return unit really hasn't been giving him the holes we're used to seeing. This is an area where we really need to return to form. Roscoe is such a weapon, especially returning punts, and it's a shame if the defense and special teams can't provide him enough opportunities to showcase his talents.
Don't embarrass yourselves!: This one's for the crowd, but is also for the Bills. We're used to watching them crap the bed on national TV. In fact, I can't even remember the last time the team won a night game. After racking my brain, I think it was in Jacksonville during the 3-13 campaign earlier this decade. UGH! Last year, we were all stunned and in pain after the Cowboys debacle, but that was nothing compared to the whooping the Pats laid on us a few games later. Talk about embarrassing! The Bills have to go out and play tough, smart football this week. Simply put, they need to take care of business for once.
Bonus Dick Jauron related key - Don't you dare get outcoached by Romeo freakin' Crennel: This is one of those weeks where our team should have the coaching advantage. Therefore, I for one, do not want to see him outcoached...again. Get your red flag ready Dicky! Keep it in your hand the whole game if you have to. It's not like you do much else during the game!
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Big game ladies and gentlemen. I hope to see a jacked up, crazy, electric and effective home crowd come Monday night. Go Bills, and whatever you do, it better result in a W.
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Do they ever come in here and see the awesome advice given by us fans? I know Geronimo is kinda-sorta connected, so does he ever report this stuff?
by JTM1023 on Nov 15, 2008 8:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
K, I agree on all points!
Actually I will do my best to do you proud on your 2nd point. It would be tough to be drunker than last year but hell, I can try! My season tickets are in section 336, row 13 seats 7 through 10. We will do our Best!
I cannot agree with you more regarding running the ball and feeding them a constant diet of BEAST MODE – and it will open things up for Lee big time.
On defense, I agree that we need to get pressure on him. We need Marcus to have a big game like he had against SEA. He has been consistent since but not dominant and we need a huge game out of him because we know that they will be feeding to ball to Lewis a lot.
I think the key to this game will be stopping Winslow, being very aggressive with him and bumping him hard off the line – he cannot be allowed to be a security blanket for Quinn. I would love to see them use a hi/low zone on Edwards, being aggressive off the line breaking up the timing of their patterns. Our biggest issue is our inability of consistently getting pressure from our DE so the next best thing is to disrupt the timing from the backend.
I choose to BILLieve that this will be the start of a great playoff run!
Go BILLS!
by keysh67 on Nov 15, 2008 11:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
K, great write up........
the sense of desperation Im reading in your post is the exact same type of desperation I hope the boys are playing with on monday……..because if they arent……..well…….its gonna long profanity inducing tirade by me on monday night……..in the comforts of my lovely home.
Miss you Kotch......Love you Trent
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 15, 2008 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can I add one more point
Scheme a defense that helps Poz in the middle against the short pass.
by gjv on Nov 15, 2008 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
- Stop being so &#$*!% predictable on offense
- Run the freakin’ ball!!!
The Bills need to feed Jackson and Lynch a lot. and if they can’t get the job done, try screens, WR screens, reverses, anything to get the ball moving.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Nov 15, 2008 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Breakdown of your breakdown
As I was reading your keys, something jumped out at me.
Cut the stupid mistakes out – Coaching and players
Feed off the crowd (and not Dick Jauron) – Coaching and players
Run the freakin’ ball!!! – Coaching
Get the ball to Lynch, and do it often – Coaching
Stop being so &#$*!% predictable on offense – Coaching
Get the ball to Lee Evans – Coaching
Beat up Brady Quinn – Coaching and players
Whatever happened to Roscoe? – Players
Don’t embarrass yourselves! – Players
Don’t you dare get out coached by Romeo freakin’ Crennel – Coaching
Of your 10 keys, 8 were coaching related in part if not in whole!!!! Could our coaches be our weakest link? Would we be a better team if we had different coaches? No way to know for sure, but it makes you wonder.
by Joe P. on Nov 15, 2008 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
one amendment
I would change getting the ball to Evans as a coaches and players. Evans has to get open. Trent has to find him and throw him the ball (accurately) when he does get open. I have never understood why Evans is treated as a number 1 WR when he has a good game, but when he doesn’t catch many balls it is because he wasn’t a big enough part of the gameplan or something. Maybe Evans only caught 2 balls against NE because he wasn’t getting open.
Also, I think any keys to the game type scenario is going to be about coaching. What are some potential keys that wouldn’t have coaching involved? Even if a key was Don’t let player x beat you, it would involve coaching.
by kaisertown on Nov 15, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree it is not an exact science,
but I tried to go with the intent of K’s keys. I assumed for example that in “Getting the ball to Lee Evans” that Lee would try to get open and Edwards would try to throw him the ball. Good play calling and well designed plays are needed to help Evans have a fighting chance. I hope you are not trying to say that Evans doesn’t know how to get open.
by Joe P. on Nov 15, 2008 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I think Evans struggles to get open. You very rarely see him catch a pass where he is WIDE open. He always seems to be tightly covered. And he’s definitely not big enough where he’s one of those guys that you can just throw him the ball when covered and he is able outmuscle opponents, like a Brandon Marshall or Larry Fitz. Because of this, I think Schonert really needs to get creative in order to get him the ball more. Screens? maybe. Quick slants? Yes, please. End around? You bet….
~K
by Kurupt on Nov 16, 2008 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well if you assume that players are going to do their part, then isn’t every concievable key going to be about coaching? Of course Evans is going to try to get open, but I think he gets the benefit of the doubt way too often. Evans is a really good WR, I’m not trying to dispute that. What I do think is that Evans struggles when running routes where he doesn’t get to run straight for at least 15 yards before breaking. I don’t think creative coaching is nearly as important as the players playing when it comes to Evans getting the ball. Evans is asked to run a route on every play and is the first option on a good percentage of Trent’s progressions. The deep route is Evans’ strength so most of his routes are over 20 yards. For Evans to make a play the O-Line needs to provide enough time for those routes to develop, Trent needs to be patient and not check down when Evans’ route is still developing, but looks promising and most important, Lee Evans needs to get open. I would say that is 90% players and 10% coaching. It’s the same way that I hate how people always blame the coaches for not throwing the ball deep. The coaches call for Evans to run a deep route like 40% of the time. It’s not their fault when the team doesn’t throw one down the field.
Really what my problem here is that when Evans has a good game everybody talks about how great he is and when he doesn’t do anything it is because the coaches stink. Evans isn’t good enough to be above criticism.
by kaisertown on Nov 16, 2008 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WR 83 Evans, Lee ACT REC 37 YDS 700 AVG 18.9 TDS 3
by MonStarr_716 on Nov 16, 2008 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll add one more
Don’t let Josh Cribbs beat you.
After averaging over 30 yards a KR last year, Cribbs is still near the league leaders with a 27.7 yards per kick return average this season. He might be the best in the league and we can’t afford to give them 7 points on a kick return.
Cribbs also had 48 yards rushing on 3 carries last Thursday. The Bills defense hasn’t done a good job of handling reverses and end arounds and Cribbs is very dangerous with those. The Browns also lined him up under center a couple of times and used wildcat type plays with success against Denver. With a few extra days to scheme for this game, I am sure the Browns have some plays drawn up to get Cribbs the ball.
by kaisertown on Nov 15, 2008 3:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was going to add a Cribbs key, but I was getting tired of writing (haha) and thought 10 were plenty. Definitely a good addition by you kaiser. Good point on the end arounds. Besides Donnie Avery, I can’t really recall any other big plays against us….do you remember who else has beat us for a big gainer, by chance?
~K
by Kurupt on Nov 16, 2008 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Romeo Crennel outcoaches Jauron...
I…I don’t know what I’ll do. It won’t be good, and it’ll most likely involve some Labatt’s.
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 15, 2008 6:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
LETS GO BUFFALO
I got the bills digest today and the front page was “BILLS V BROWNS MNF!” AND I RIPPED OFF THE FRONT PAGE, GRABBED SOME TAPE AND PUT IT SO IT IS THE FIRST THING YOU SEE WHEN YOU ENTER MY HOUSE!
LET’S PUMP IT UP! Everyone going to the RALP make it one to remember and get our TEAM a W! Monday is going to be a long day at work thinking about that game
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Nov 15, 2008 7:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
is it monday yet?
see Kurupt…it will all work out…..plus does anyone else get goose bumps when you see the monday night promos on espn>? I heard Michelle Tafoya on minneapoolis radio and she made it sound like monday is a terrible game and everyone at espn wishes it was a different matchup. I hope Buffalo shows them and to the nation what a team they really are
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Nov 16, 2008 3:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping for a terrible game....
….from the Browns. I’d love a 42-0 type blowout, never mind that only Bills fans would be watching the game in the second half.
by Ron From NM on Nov 16, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if we blow them out
the story in the media would be how bad the Browns are not how good the Bills are.
McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year
by poz on Nov 16, 2008 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
would that be so bad?
a blowout win would be great. i don’t care what the media would say about it, not that they’d say anything anyhow….
~K
by Kurupt on Nov 16, 2008 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so true
has anyone else noticed that in any commercial featuring an NFL player, Chunky Soup, Vizio, NFL Network, they always show a player or team beating the Bills? It is infuriating. Especially the NFL Network “GO FANS” ad which talks about fans wanting it more helping their team win or some b.s. like that and then it shows pats fans and Bills fans and the Pats winning. What is that??
McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year
by poz on Nov 16, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
plus Pats fans are some of the worst fans in the league. Did anybody notice how DEAD that stadium was against the Jets this past THursday?
~K
by Kurupt on Nov 16, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jauron
I don’t know why the author of this article is hating on Jauron. The guy has definitely given this team direction when it was lost. He may not be flashy, but the bills players play as hard as they can for him. You have to keep in mind that the bills are still week at some key positions and injuries have hurt them.
Our two defensive ends are not big enough. Keith Ellison is a very mediocre OLB. And the injuries to Brad Butler and Josh Reed have simply killed our offense. 5-4 at this point in the season is very good. Trent Edwards is learning more and more every game.
I believe the Bills will go on a 4-5 game win streak starting with the browns on monday night.
go bills!
by buffaloboy90 on Nov 16, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jauron holds this team back. Plus, I haven’t exactly seen the players playing their hearts out these past few weeks. They gave up against NE and were smacked around again. This guy’s persona rubs off on the team and that’s not a good thing.
~K
by Kurupt on Nov 16, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This guy’s persona rubs off on the team and that’s not a good thing.
I’d re-phrase that to say “… and that’s not always a good thing.”
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 16, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we so sure?
Jauron maybe a drip in the eyes of the fans and media…but I suspect (or hope) he’s a little more animated in the locker room. If the Bills were atop the division it’d be darn hip to be square (oh no, I’m referencing crappy lyrics from a has-been band). The lack of intensity late in recent games has probably more to do with the on-field performance, or lack thereof, than Jauron’s stealthy motivational techniques. With that stated however, the OC is not putting his players in the best possible position to win. No fear my friends, four winnable games puts the Bills at 9-4 and in prime position to rip our hearts out the last three games.
by NJBill on Nov 16, 2008 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t imagine the Dick in the locker room is different than the Dick on the field. You never see him react to questionable calls, you never see him get fired up over a big play, you never see him show any emotion at all, both on the field and at the mic. Do you really think he’s all of a sudden Jon Gruden in the locker room??? I really can’t see it in any shape or form…
No fear my friends, four winnable games puts the Bills at 9-4 and in prime position to rip our hearts out the last three games.
Ain’t that the truth! But hey, I’d rather have that happen than go 2-2 over the next 4 and be all but mathematically eliminated from the playoffs at that time.
~K
by Kurupt on Nov 16, 2008 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but this is all speculation, and speculation is dumb. All this Jauron bashing makes me nauseous; I can’t fathom how y’all can beat your head over the same topic every freakin’ day.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 17, 2008 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The first 4 games of the season almost all bills fans loved Dick Jauron. I’m not saying YOU did, but most Bills fans. Now that we have lost a couple of games many fans, including you, are questioning him. You may think that a lot of emotion on the sideline from a head coach makes a big difference, but in the grand scheme of winning and losing a football game it does not. If you want to know why we are losing, it’s because we are turning the ball over and not blocking very well on the offensive line.
Even when we were winning games, Melvin Fowler was under performing. If you watch the tape, many sacks stemmed from Fowler’s poor play. He simply gets mauled at the point of attack and the pocket collapses. I know a lot of people don’t like Duke Preston, but the fact of the matter is that he holds up better at the point of attack than does Fowler.
If Dick is a good coach he needs to do a couple of things in the near future.
1. Give the starting center job to Duke Preston (he’s better than Fowler)
2. Give the starting TE job to Derek Schoeman. He is a very good blocker, and doesn’t fumble the ball like robert royal.
3. Start bringing more exotic blitz packages. The 4 man rushes we are doing now just are not cutting it. Against the browns (who have a very good offensive line), the bills will not be able to get pressure on brady unless they blitz linbackers and dbs.
by buffaloboy90 on Nov 16, 2008 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve questioned him for a loooooong time. I don’t like Dick Jauron as a head coach in any form. These 3 games haven’t changed my opinion of him since it was so low to start with.
A lot of emotion may not be necessary, but SOME would be nice. His teams play soft, timid and never seem to be able to dictate the flow of the game against any above average opponents. I think that is a direct correlation of the coach.
Fowler and Preston are both some of the worst Centers in the league. I wanted to see Preston in for Fowler too, but after these past few games where he’s been even worse than Fowler, we all see why he wasn’t in there.
Schouman? He’s not much of a blocker. I want to see more Derek Fine, even if he isn’t a great blocker either.
More blitzes? I sure hope so. That’s the only way this team can get any pressure on the QB.
~K
by Kurupt on Nov 16, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Jauron was needed to "right the ship" after the Williams and Mad Dog Mularkey Era....
but Im starting to wonder if he’s only the type of coach that gets you to a certain point……meaning he’s great to turn a crappy team around…..but not good enough to ever win a championship…….maybe being a Yale grad is a negative thing……just like being “well liked”
Fact of the matter is…..only one coach wins the whole shebang ever year……I just doubt that Jauron will ever have his year….
Playing “not to lose” is fine and all…..but that kind of attitude will rack up as many losses as it does wins…..and thus why the back to back 7-9 seasons……..and will probably result in a 8-8/9-7 record this year……….and if the same happens again next year………its gotta be buh bye time for Richard.
Miss you Kotch......Love you Trent
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 17, 2008 2:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
one more thing I wanted to add..............
I believe Jauron’s style is perfect for the NCAA…….He’s the type of guy who can get the most out of mediocre players……Im suprised he’s never tried that route……..I bet he could turn the Orangemen around……..and they have an opening now…….
Miss you Kotch......Love you Trent
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 17, 2008 2:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A dream scenario
The Bills go 9-7 and miss the playoffs this year. Jauron leaves the Bills to coach SU. Bill Cowher, who inexplicably has shown man love for the Bills O-line, decides to help a former steel town and agrees to be HC in Buffalo. This is possible because Ralph Wilson, feeling that he may only have a dozen good years left on this earth, decides to open up the wallet and pay for a top tier coach. Cowher is like a magnet and the team has no problem picking up some quality free agents without breaking the bank, such as the completely healed LeCharles Bentley anchoring the line at center. After another excellent draft, the Bills acquire the top DE, solid linebacker, a center to groom, and good depth at other positions. The surprising Bills win the AFC East in 2009 and tear through the playoffs. Superbowl XLIV is highly competitive and the Bills march down the field in what may be the game winning drive for the ages. With 4 seconds on the clock the Bills attempt a 37 yard FG to win the game. Moorman handles the high snap and Lindell gets the kick off…it’s…it’s… BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP…time to wake up. It’s strange how most dreams seem so unrealistic.
by NJBill on Nov 17, 2008 8:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dream scenario?
For who?
9-7 Bills? No thanks?
Jauron to SU? Oh h### no! My alma mater is already screwed up enough! They need fresh blood who can bring an aggressive approach to recruiting and the offensive side of the ball.
Cowher will never be the Bills coach. You don’t think Jerry Jones would offer him $6M a year or something ridiculous?
~K
by Kurupt on Nov 17, 2008 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have to disagree
Jones wants a puppet HC he can control. Cowher would never put up with the constant interference from Jones.
by Joe P. on Nov 17, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know why 9-7 would be a dream scenario. The Bills can still go to the playoffs. They have two extremely winnable games against Kansas City and San Fransisco. I believe this team has the balls to beat Miami in Buffalo, and the balls to go to new york and beat up on the jets. We may lose to the pats, but you have to at least give us a chance. Also, we could very well go on and beat the broncos, they have very beatable.
I’m looking at a 10-6, maybe and 11-5 record, and a playoff birth. I think you are a disgrace to Bills fans saying a dream scenario would be 9-7. If you want to be a fair weather fan then go start posting stuff on the patriot’s blogs.
This football team is a very good football team. The defense is playing extremely well right now, our special teams is playing great (look at leodis). And if Trent Edwards plays well, I don’t know if a lot of teams can beat us.
If Trent Edwards plays well, right now, we are one of the best teams in the NFL. I do not think that is an exaggeration.
by buffaloboy90 on Nov 19, 2008 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I respect your opinion if you never liked him to begin with. I can’t convince you to like the guy, and I definitely see where you are coming from. I just like his leadership style, personally.
couple points I want to make.
Duke Preston play pretty well Monday night. I know it seemed like he got blown off the line all the time against Shaun Rogers. But, for the most part he did a good job. Certainly a better job than Fowler would have done.
I encourage you to watch tape of Derek Schouman to judge his blocking. He also made a very nice block Monday night which allowed a receiver to get a first down. I like Derek Fine as well though.
We did get more blitzes, and I really like the way our defense played.
go bills!
by buffaloboy90 on Nov 19, 2008 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is possible because Ralph Wilson, feeling that he may only have a dozen good years left on this earth…
Holy hell, a DOZEN?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 17, 2008 9:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A dozen more would make him what,… 125?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Nov 17, 2008 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know that was sarcasm, but for the sake of accuracy Mr. Wilson was born on October 17, 1918. In twelve years he will be 102. He might have those 12 years left, but the good ones are running out really fast.
by kaisertown on Nov 17, 2008 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And after reading Ralph’s Wiki page, he graduated from Virginia University. I wonder if he follows the football program and if he has had any say on the drafting of Angelo Crowell or Brad Butler
by kaisertown on Nov 17, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ever see "Weekend at Bernie's"?
That is our only hope of keeping the Bills! LOL!!!!
by Joe P. on Nov 17, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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