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If it takes the Bills to lose the rest of their games for Dick Jauron to get fired then I'm okay with that...I am really okay with it (yes, I understand that he just got a contract extension and the chances are zero to none that Jauron gets fired this off season - but you can always wish for a hope, right?).   I cannot fathom another coach in this league that would settle for a 45+ yard kick when they have 50 seconds left and a timeout.  3 runs up the middle and your OPPONENT is the one that is calling timeouts.... gutless. As much as it pains me to say "new coach" or "start over," it is excruciatingly clear that this team will never have the capacity to go all the way under this coaching staff.  

And for those who are worried about the time it would take to "rebuild," all you have to do is look at Miami for inspiration.  Miami is a proud franchise that got utterly embarrassed last season (ending up a dismal 1-15).  What did they do in the off-season? they went out and got a Hall of Fame coach/executive to turn their ship around.  Now, with the same core players, they are 6-4 and gleefully on their way to the playoffs.  Meanwhile, Buffalo has been stuck in mediocrity for the past decade.  Gregg Williams, Mike Mularkey, and now Dick Jauron.  This team needs a coach with a winning mentality.   Tom Coughlin is that.  Bill Parcels is that.  Bill Cowher is that.  Dick Jauron is not.... and he never will be. 

It's true that the Bills are yet out of the playoffs, but how many of you really believe that they will turn the season around and end that decade long playoff draught?  More likely, after a promising 5-1 start; the Bills are destined for another 8-8 or 7-9 season.  If that is true, then I would much rather have them lose the rest of their games.  And maybe, if we are lucky, that will finally be enough for Ralph Wilson to get serious about winning.  Fire Jauron and throw ton money at a coach that is a proven winner.  Miami did it by bringing in Parcels and look at the turn around they have had.  For the Bills, it wouldn't even be as hard.  They have a young core in place (Lynch, Evans, Poz, Whitner, and yes, even Edwards).  They wouldn't need a total shake-up, just a solid off-season, an attitude adjustment and some leadership from the top.  Winning is infectious and it starts from the very top of the organization.   It time that Ralph Wilson put his wallet on the line and bring in a coach that will do more than just ask his team to win - he will exhibit that willing persona. Get a winning coach and the rest will fall into place.

Side note:  Game balls go to Marshawn Lynch, Fred Jackson and the Bills special teams.   Those guys left their hearts on the field and didn't deserve that loss.  Kudos for never giving up.

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I agree. I’ve said it so many times that I have carpal tunnel from typing the same stuff, but Jauron has to go. He’s such a terrible HC.

Maybe the worst part about the final possession is that Royal was tackled with roughly 90 seconds left on the clock. NINETY SECONDS. A MINUTE AND A HALF. All we do is settle for 3 lame dive plays up the middle? This is exactly why this team has struggled so mightily to beat good teams. I’m so sick and tired of this clown’s loser mentality. This team and this city needs a firey leader, who isn’t afraid to push the envelope and do something out of the ordinary to win games. Until we get a new head coach in here, this team will remain stuck in mediocrity.

Miami and Atlanta’s success this year really gives me hope that a coaching change could make a different and still allow us to contend sooner rather than later. It also makes me extremely sad that these two teams can rebuild in one offseason for the most part, while it is taking us 10+ years to be a consistent 7-9 team.

I just don’t know what Jauron has to do to get fired. He does not deserve to be the head coach next year and definitely did not deserve an extension. If he’s our coach going into next season, at least I won’t have to get my hopes up.

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 18, 2008 2:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was working ...

and only able to listen on the radio, but it sure seemed to me that the last drive was a coaching crapfest, not a Lindell crapfest. They had been mixing up the run and pass successfully, Trent had hit Royal beautifully, then the three lame runs that couldn’t pick up one more first down to get within the 40-yd FG range.

by thefourwinds on Nov 18, 2008 3:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Snap judgment!

OK, seriously, Jauron isn’t going anywhere. I know that 90% of you here hate that, but it’s the fact.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 18, 2008 2:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

How could you not hate it? Jauron is such a terrible head coach and I don’t know what else he needs to do to prove it to you! I just wish our front office would see the light. Instead, they seem to see the exact opposite of what we all see….

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 18, 2008 2:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not a terrible head coach, K. The same arguments are made week in and week out, and I’ve yet to be swayed. I’m not saying the guy is championship-caliber, but firing him as a scapegoat for bigger problems this team faces would be a monumental mistake. Do I wish he was better? Certainly. But he’s not the problem.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 18, 2008 3:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great coaching

takes good players and makes them superstars. Bad coaching takes good players and ruins them. You are seeing the results of that right now.

Remember when a Rumbler said earlier in the season that there was a potential to go 0-4 through this swing (I think whoever it was thought it would start with the SD game), and you said, “There’s no way this team is going on a 4 game losing streak”? This is why. Yes, there were a few injuries, but the coaches decided to play a hurt McGee in Miami, and the coaches are the ones who had the 91% predictability. The coaching stinks. We all know it won’t change, but it sure should change, for the BIlls to ever be a winner.

by thefourwinds on Nov 18, 2008 3:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but the coaching got better last night. But because we lost, they’re made to be the scapegoats. Again. It’s kind of sad, actually.

Players make plays. Buffalo’s coaches had that team in position to win last night. The players couldn’t get the job done.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 18, 2008 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe...

Quck judgment yes, snap judgment no.

Much like K, I have alwasy been in the anti-Dick Jauron camp. This game was the breaking point – Now, I would rather see the Bills lose miserably over the next 6 weeks rather than win if it means a quicker exit for Juaron. This team will NEVER be able to compete for a championship under his play-not-to-lose-prevent-offense-bend-but-don’t-break-defense-philosphy.

I understand that it would take an act of God for Jauron to get fired this off-season with his new contract and Wilson’s skimpy wallet, but why should it be? Why should we hold our coach and our team to such lesser standards as Miami? or the Jets? or any other football team in the N.F.L.? Why do we tolerate medocrity year in and year out? Why should it take an act of God to bring a winning coach to Buffalo? Shouldn’t it just take a desire to win?

John I.

by jri111 on Nov 18, 2008 2:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is not tolerated by me Jri111, but there is nothing I can do

Other than give up watching the Bills, not buying a new Bills hat in August before the season, and not talking with the wonderful fans here since my wife looks at me like I’m nuts for my love of a team that will never write me back or invite me out for a beer. Please see the No emotion post for my feelings/thoughts that way.

I do not accept bad play, but what can we do as fans other than boycott the Bills? It seems to have worked finally in Detroit regarding Matt Millen, but I don’t think Wilson would change his mind any faster than Mr. Ford did either.

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Nov 18, 2008 2:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

act of God

yeah that probably is the only way we rid ourselves of Jauron or see another playoff season anytime soon….

Has ANYBODY ever won anything with Jauron’s mentality, especially football? In football you need that aggressive approach if you want to accomplish anything. What I wouldn’t give for a winning playoff season at this point. Sometimes I think about how great it would be to lose another Super Bowl simply for the fact that we’d be good enough to be relevant again and playing for a title…..

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 18, 2008 2:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think this team is a reflection of it’s owner. He is a lunatic. A cheap lunatic.

Craig.

by taskersd on Nov 18, 2008 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You would prefer Al Davis? He’s not cheap.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Nov 18, 2008 7:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson hasn’t been cheap lately, except maybe in coaches’ salaries. He’s handed out a lot of money lately, most of it VERY questionable…..

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 18, 2008 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve got some serious heartburn and heartbreak right now and I can’t sleep so this is going to be a long post to distract me until morning. Sorry if I bring up things that aren’t in the thread, it’s just that I didn’t want to write a rambling unfocused fanpost and this seemed like a good place to rant for a bit.

I don’t get the anti-Jauron stuff after this game, although I am not at all surprised that everyone is trying to make him a scapgoat. So was the biggest problem with Jauron’s coaching the three runs?

Going into that last drive, Marshawn had 20 runs for 114 yards (5.7 ypc) and Trent had thrown for 126 yards on 25 pass attempts (5.0 ypa). Trent was simply terrible. His INTs were ugly and all he did was check down all night. Marshawn had 10 catches and the rest of the team only had 5 before the big play to Royal. Under the specific circumstances of the game, I think most (all?) NFL coaches would have run the ball on first and second down. I think more than half would have run the ball on third down too. The problem wasn’t the playcalls, but rather the team was only able to pick up 5 yards on those 3 runs.

I think there are some things that we can and should rip Jauron for. I don’t have a problem with how Jauron is mostly hands off with the offense, there are a lot of good NFL head coaches who work almost exclusively with one unit. But this offensive predictability has got to stop. It is embarrasing. Other things include his recent use of timeouts. He has made some really stupid decisionsr recently. He should have pulled McGee from the Dolphins game (I still think that decision cost us the game). He is definitely too conservative with a lot of his decisions. I don’t have a problem with scheme, just going for it on fourth down type decisions (which I actually think has been overblown by the anti-Jauron crowd). There are things not to like about Dick Jauron, but three straight runs when you are already in position to win and your running back has been so much better than your QB isn’t a problem.

I’m also sick and tired of hearing about how Miami turned it around so fast. They had the worst QB play in the entire league last season and lost Ronnie Brown (thier best player at the time?) to a really serious knee injury. Miami lost 7 games by 3 points last season. They didn’t magically get better, they added a solid QB in Chad Pennington and those 3 point losses turned into wins. I honestly think it is that simple.

I know this is going to be a tangent, but if I hear about how Buffalo’s “bend, but don’t break” defense is holding them back this week, I might flip out. The Bills blitzed a decent amount and it worked pretty well. Despite another bad performance from the DEs, the Bills completely shut down Brady Quinn. The Bills pass defense was one of the few reasons they were still in the game in the fourth quarter. That pass defense has actually been fantastic all year despite terrible DEs, LBs who are mediocre in coverage and injuries in the secondary. Here is every team the Bills have played with thier starting QBs yards per attempt against teams that aren’t Buffalo first and what they averaged per attempt against the Bills second:

SEA – 6.0 – 4.3
I used Matt Hasselbeck’s numbers since his return. If you include Seneca Wallace and Charlie Frye’s numbers than the yards per attempt figure drops to 5.6. Hasselbeck has only played in 5 games, but that 4.3 yards per attempt number was his lowest of the season.

JAX – 6.8 – 5.9
Only Tennessee has held Garrard to a lower total than Buffalo did.

OAK – 5.9 – 8.2
The 84 yard play to JL Higgins killed Buffalo’s average. Without that play JaMarcus only averaged 4 yards per pass attempt.

STL – 6.5 – 7.4
Since we played against Trent Green, I used the Rams’ team numbers for thier yards per attempt. In my opinion, this was the worst performance we have seen from our secondary this year relative to how good our opponent is.

ARI – 8.6 – 6.0
That’s right, Kurt Warner totally chewed us up that game, but hasn’t anyone noticed how he has beat up on everybody else too? This game shouldn’t be used as the rallying cry for everyone who thinks there is something philosophically wrong with our defense. The Bills actually held Warner to 5.95 yards per pass attempt which is the only time an opponent has held him under 6 yards per attempt all season; in fact, in 96 career games (I only used games where he threw 10 or more passes) it is his 10th lowest total in his entire career and three of those starts came during his first season as a starter.

SD – 8.7 – 7.2
Another great performance by the Bills pass defense. Rivers currently leads the league in yards per pass attempt despite the Bills holding him to 7.2 yards per. The Bills held him to his 3rd lowest average of the season.

MIA – 7.6 – 10.5
Stupid coaches should have pulled Terrence McGee. Ginn’s big day is the only reason why this number is so high. Pennington only averaged 6.2 yards per attempt to throws where Ginn wasn’t targeted.

NYJ – 7.1 – 7.2
Nothing special to report here.

NE – 6.9 – 7.3
Matt Cassel has been a different QB since the bye. He struggled early running an offense built for Tom Brady while also dealing with the pressure of getting his first couple of starts. Since the bye, the Pats passing attack has averaged 250 yards per game while Cassel has averaged 7.2 yards per attempt.

CLE – 6.1 – 5.1
I combined Quinn’s start against Denver with Derek Anderson’s numbers for the Brown’s yards per attempt. If anyone other than Marshawn and McKelvin gets a game ball, it’s the Bills pass defense.

Sorry for how long this post got. It took me like an hour and a half, but my stomach is starting to feel better and I already took the day off so I won’t have to run on fumes all day. Back to the point, am I really one of the few people who have noticed how good the Bills pass defense has been with all things considered?

by kaisertown on Nov 18, 2008 8:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you on the play calls

Now calling three dives is different than calling shotgun handoffs or something like that but the goal was not to lose yards when they should have been looking to gain yards behind Lynch. Odds favor Marshawn gaining 7-9 yards on those three run plays combined but it didn’t happen.

by MattRichWarren on Nov 18, 2008 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree 100%

With the exception of the dolphins game and Ted Ginn the Pass defense has been pretty good, Our run D has been pretty good as well. The only thing that has hurt the Bills on D is there inability to generate a pass rush and there lack of turnovers. We get those two things worked out and we are talking about a VERY good Defense, even in Fewells scheme………………. Side note: Julius Peppers is a free agent this year!

by LuBAR on Nov 18, 2008 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Screw Julius Peppers…. switch to a 3-4 which is a better defense and easier to replenish through the draft.

(and JP is going to get franchised)

by Harris on Nov 18, 2008 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

?

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 18, 2008 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JP=Peppers

at least I hope

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 18, 2008 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes, sorry.

Julius Peppers is going to be franchised by Carolina if they cannot work out a deal.

by Harris on Nov 18, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhh. Seriously worried about your sanity there for a moment. I gotcha now. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 18, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dick Jauron didn't throw 3 INTS

If he had thrown and Edwards tossed his 4th pick ruining a field goal opportunity, you’d be all over him. He can’t win with fans like you.

This team just gets better every year, but apparently that’s not good enough for you.

Am I happy with the play of late? Absolutely not.

Am I glad we have dick jauron leading the organization. ABSOLUTELY.

by tiimbitz4786 on Nov 18, 2008 11:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

HOLY CRAP

I just watched the Jauron post game presser and he did it again:

“It’s not where we want to be obviously, 5-5, we’d like to be 10-0. We’d like to have no losses. But we’ve gotta take 5-5. We’ll take it at this point, and we’ll move forward”

Does he have to say the same exact thing every week?!!?!? haha, this is getting to be humorous.

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 18, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the classic.............."it is.....what it is"......coach.

Disappointment proves that expectations were mistaken.......ladies and gentlemen your 2008 Buffalo Bills.....

by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 18, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dick Jaron

should definitely go. He won’t, but he should. He is never going to be a great coach, but will always be a mediocre one. When the history of the NFL is written, DJ will be a very small footnote on being mediocre.

The worst problem DJ has, by far, is his (more than a) tendency to choke (get real conservative) at crunch time in the fourth Q in a close game. I disagree with those who say three dives into the middle was good coaching. Are you kidding? Lindell is pretty darn good from about the 42 on in, but the farther you go beyond the 45, the worse (much worse) his numbers get. If I’m coaching, I know that our odds go way up IF we get Lindell close to the 40. We needed another 10 and called 3 dives up the middle. Not even ONE run to the outside. Not even a short dump pass. Jim Kelly should have given DJ the Heimlich maneuver. Spit it out DJ. Also, most of the game he had our CB’s close to the line playing disruptive football. Crunch time comes and, guess what, the CB’s are now playing 7-8yds off the receivers. That, folks, is a classic prevent D and a first magnitude choke. Result, Cleveland marches to a FG. He has done this over and over again. Timid. Goes into a shell. Hate it.

Another example would be calling Hardy to right angle over the middle in traffic. WTF? To me, that is NUTS! Trent is playing spooked, does not have good timing down with Hardy yet, and a play is called over the middle. KISS pleasse. Give him a fly, slant (or post) or fade at first until the timing is there. Trent has completely missed a wide open Hardy several times in the past 4 games. The play called sent Hardy into the heaviest traffic on the field.

Another saying is that there are two kinds of coaches. One imposes his scheme on the players and the other schemes based on the players abilities and best tendencies. DJ seems to want to impose his plan, come hell or high water. A good coach, especially after this game, would sit down with his defensive secondary and talk to them about which scheme they felt most comfortable with and could play to their best in, not which scheme to impose next week. We played some damn good man D last night. Going forward, I would hope the coaches see that and play primarily man, with a cover 2 when appropriate (seldom). We have the talent.

An aside – we got Stroud because he could be had relatively cheap compared th the other 2 DT’s available. Stud free agent players like Suggs or Peppers we will not go after because of cap issues. I’m very happy with Stroud. Hellacious player.

DJ is a good man, a decent man. He does many good things as a coach. But he does not have a killer instinct, goes into a shell at crunch time, and will always be just mediocre. Right, he is not going anywhere. So I’ll buy more Tums for my tummy.

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by keuka121 on Nov 18, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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