Bills/Chiefs: Keys to a Bills Victory

Buffalo Bills (5-5) at Kansas City Chiefs (1-9)
Sunday, November 23, 2008, 1PM EST - Arrowhead Stadium
After 4 straight losses, the Bills look to finally rebound and return to the win column. On paper, facing a 1-9 squad seems like the perfect medicine, but we all know how that can work out. The Chiefs have been playing better behind Tyler Thigpen and are always tough in Arrowhead. Here's how we can leave there with a win:
Keep running it: If Turk Schonert didn't learn from the Browns game that Marshawn Lynch needs the ball more than the 15 times he was getting it per game, then he'll never learn. The Chiefs are 31st in the NFL against the rush giving up over 165 yards per game, and have allowed 16 rushing TD's thus far. Simply put, they stink. Please, keep it simple and take advantage of this! Continue using Fred Jackson as the #1a RB, especially if motivates Lynch to run harder and hit the holes, like Jaws was thinking Monday.
Find Trent some confidence: Trent Edwards has no confidence, or at least it doesn't look like he has any. Again, Schonert needs to keep it simple and find him ways to pick up some confidence while picking up first downs. Expect (or hope) for some more screens and rollouts this week. And here's a thought......
Don't neglect Lee Evans: As predictable as the playcalling has been and as badly as Edwards has played, there is NO reason that Lee Evans should be going catchless in a game. All three of those guys have to step up. It's no coincedence that our offense looked better in the year when we were looking downfield to Evans. Where that has gone the past few weeks, who knows, but we've got to return to trying to get him the ball downfield. If Edwards is too scared to make the throw, then we have much bigger problems than we'd like to admit. The Chiefs have a couple of rookie CB's in Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers who should be ripe for the picking (on).
Stop turning it over: This one is all Trent Edwards. Quit throwing pathetic interceptions man! You aren't even getting pressured on these picks. They are just downright awful throws. The lack of confidence sure seems to be part of this. Even if we don't make the playoffs this year, which is highly likely, it'd be nice if Edwards can rebound and prove he is our guy. Throwing interception after unforced interception is not a good way to convince us!
Pressure Thigpen: The Bills did a good job of pressuring Brady Quinn on Monday night, though it was due to the blitz and Marcus Stroud. That needs to continue Sunday against Thigpen. He's another young guy who you have to make uncomfortable back there. Thigpen has been very good over his last 4 games, averaging 236 yards passing, close to another 30 rushing and 8 TD's compared to just 1 INT. What I wouldn't give for Edwards to have those numbers. The Chiefs have average 22.5 points per game under Thigpen's guidance these past 4 games, while only 12.5 ppg over their first 6 games. I never thought I'd say this, but we need to slow down Tyler Thigpen.
Let Larry Johnson run it: I think I'd rather the Chiefs just hand off to LJ 25 times this weekend. There's no reason to believe our run D won't shut him down, so if the Chiefs keep going to a guy that hasn't been all that good, that's better for our chances. Shutting him down on first and second downs to set up longer second and third downs should really allow us to pin our ears back and get after Thigpen.
Get some turnovers for once: The Bills D has a whopping 5 INT's on the season, which is fewer than teams like the Rams, Bengals and Raiders. Sure, they've done a solid job of limiting total yards for the most part, but there are absolutely no playmakers other than maybe Kawika Mitchell on this defense. Nobody makes a big play, nobody gets a big stop and nobody gets the ball back for our offense. This has been a frustrating element of this season as we heard all preseason how opportunistic the Bills D was planning to be. Well, it hasn't come close to happening and I think the lack of INT's is due to the DB's playing off the ball. INT's happen in tight coverage and with pressure from the DL, but we don't have either. It'd be nice if we can get that to change against KC.
Dominate Special Teams again: If we are going to play so poorly on O and so average on defense, let's at least hope our ST's can continue playing at a high level. Leodis McKelvin has looked so much better over the past 3-4 games and that should continue if he's given the opportunities. Roscoe Parrish finally had a chance against Cleveland and proved how dangerous he remains. The D has to get him more chances by forcing 3 and outs. They've only force eight 3 and outs over the past 5 games, four of which were against the stinky Browns and one was after three kneeldowns by Chad Pennington at the end of the Miami game. They've got to do a better job getting off the field and getting Roscoe some chances.
Show some guts, pride, a sense of urgency: Other than for a small portion fo the Browns game, we have not seen anything from this team that shows they understand how dire of a situation they have put themselves in. It's frustrating that there seems to be no urgency and the team continues to play complacent and conservative. Whether it's the players, the staff or Dick Jauron, we can all blame who we want, but at this point their backs are completely up against the wall. Will they actually come out and dominate a game? Will they actually come out and win a game that they desperately need? Who knows, but if the past few seasons are any indication, we may leave this weekend disappointed yet again. I just want to see a tough, physical approach to this game.
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Well, there you have it. Ways to avoid letting the 1-9 Chiefs beat the Bills. There's no reason we should lose to an opponent like this, but there's also no reason to be playing as we have the past month. A loss here would hardly be surprising....
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Given the Chiefs inability to stop the run, and the troubles Trent had last week, this is a perfect match-up. Run the ball with Marshawn and Freddie, and set up so easy comp-letions for Trent with the play action.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Nov 22, 2008 8:54 AM EST 0 recs
So you are saying we are going to come out throwing the ball.
Craig.
by taskersd on
Nov 22, 2008 9:25 AM EST
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probably
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Nov 22, 2008 9:51 AM EST
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And I hope I am wrong but I also think we come out throwing. Why…I dont have an answer for that?
by Berg79 on
Nov 22, 2008 10:02 AM EST
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The D is hurting, and bad weather would be a plus for us. If the game is running oriented I believe we dominate their D-line like we did to Clev and our D Line should be solid as well (for run purposes). I worry about the secondary. But it comes down to the guts of the game it is on Trent… plain and simple. Can he have a game where he doesn’t turn it over or turns it over once. Can he throw to a WR (maybe Lee)? We can analyze every aspect but I doubt anyone thinks we lose if Trent plays well, so it really comes down to the QB play. Then the Question becomes if Trent is the same Trent we have seen recently do we have enough tools to beat the Chiefs anyway? WIthout Schobel, WHitner, Greer, and maybe Scott it will be difficult.
by Berg79 on Nov 22, 2008 10:01 AM EST 0 recs
My guess is..
This is the week we get run all over. We’re due for that, after all. I’m betting we get behind the 8-ball early in this one, again. The Chiefs will run all over us forcing Edwards to play catch up. Edwards will play well while “getting back on track”. A late interception of Edwards, caused by pressure up the middle, will seal Buffalo’s fate in a 34-30 defeat. One key to the game that should be added is: avoid injury. That’s something that’s kind of out of our hands but it is so crucial at this point.
by jj24 on Nov 22, 2008 10:22 AM EST 0 recs
You honestly think the Chiefs are going to put up 34 on us? The Pats only put up 20.
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by Brian Galliford on
Nov 22, 2008 1:42 PM EST
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Yeah, but the Pats' O doesn't scare anyone.
It’s their D that does. Some guy named Benjarvus did an effective job of running against us. I’m sure my prediction will probably be wrong.
But there is that occasional game when the unexpected happens. If we lose any more players on defense, like say, Posluszny or Stroud, then the flood gates may open. Sometimes when you’re going into a game like this one thinking “well at least we can get this one”, then the Bills lay an egg or the other team just whips us. I’m hoping to expect the worst and get something good because being positive doesn’t seem to be working.
by jj24 on
Nov 22, 2008 1:52 PM EST
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So, yes.
To answer your question, I do think they can score 34 points. I think anything can happen to our team at this point. Good or bad.
by jj24 on
Nov 22, 2008 1:56 PM EST
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Kansas City hasn't scored 34 points thie year
not against the Broncos, San Diego, New Orelans, not Oakland, and they got shut out by Carolina. I have a hard time believing they score 34 against us. I’m not saying it can’t happen, I’m just saying I’d be shocked even if Tyler Thigpen keeps playing as he has been playing.
by MattRichWarren on
Nov 22, 2008 4:52 PM EST
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Exactly, The Bills have only given up 30+ points once this year too and that was in Arizona.
by kaisertown on
Nov 22, 2008 11:21 PM EST
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I guess that this bring up a question...
is lynch relly that good
by StuckInNJ on Nov 22, 2008 10:53 AM EST 0 recs
like i've said
and Brian has so eloquently pointed out…the predictability of the offense, combined with trying to “force” Trent to line up in shotgun and throw the ball has killed Trent and this offense. Find balance, run the ball, and have some nice play action passes. I hope Turk can call one good game for once since week 4.
It was fine losing 3 straight divisional games, but now to lose to the Browns and Chiefs would tell me this season is no better than any before, which would be hardly surprising but nonetheless severely disappointing. If this team doesn’t win 4 of its last 6, the season is an utter failure
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Nov 22, 2008 11:28 AM EST 0 recs
After last weeks game......my sig had to change........and if the Bills lose again this week...
I may have to go seek a counselor…….because I’ll begin to wonder why I subject myself to such self-destructive behavior??
Thats not very good considering I have a lil one coming in about 4 weeks…….LOL.
Disappointment proves that expectations were mistaken.......ladies and gentlemen your 2008 Buffalo Bills.....
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 22, 2008 12:28 PM EST 0 recs
If the Bills can't run the ball...
…then they will deservedly lose. Regardless of it’s effectiveness, Turk will have to dial-up run after run. Perhaps given enough practice in a real game, the Bills will finally learn how to block people other than their own during practice. It was too easy earlier in the season to give up and rely on the sophomore QB; now that option is off the table. What better opponent to practice this new strategy on. A win isn’t good enough, a win that is based upon a strong running game is essential for this team to face, with any chance of success, its remaining slate of opponents.
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by NJBill on Nov 22, 2008 3:54 PM EST 0 recs
Run, run, run some more
I don’t care what the score is, we need to run the dang ball all game. Force KC to commit 7-8 men in the box everydown and get them out of the 7-8 men back strategy which everyone and their dead grandma know will be run tomorrow.
If Turk comes out slinging the ball in shotgun in the first drive, do not be surprised to see him dead come monday because I will seriously consider flying out to Buffalo to wax his ass.
Anyhow, we need to run run run and run some more for a very simple reason. Even if we get down slightly (7-9) points, I think we need to keep pounding it till we get some nice deep PA throws opened up for us against their Rookie CBs. Also, when we go Shotgun, that gives the D also a chance to change up and see what we (predicatbly) will do, throw it. I want to see Trent under center for 90% of the snaps tomorrow, honestly. Lets see if he can actually drop back and throw like a real Pro QB has to be able to do.
Also Turk, just give up on the craptastic Wildcat, please? The Pro D’s are just to fast and to smart to fall for that crap anymore. Once, maybe two games it would work, which the Phins got, but Pro Ds and their DCs are just to good for it. Go back and just run the ball with PA to liven it up, eh buddy?
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on Nov 22, 2008 5:22 PM EST 0 recs
Amen on the wildcat
I despise gimmick plays. Just line up and take it to them.
by Ron From NM on
Nov 22, 2008 10:04 PM EST
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I wouldn't mind one here or there
But the whole advantage of the Wildcat the way the Phins have been running it is options and misdirection. The Bills seem absolutely clueless on using misdirection.
by thefourwinds on
Nov 22, 2008 10:21 PM EST
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