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Playoff hopes end as Bills lose to 49ers

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QB Edwards watches from the sideline with groin injury (AP)

Is it April yet?

With slim playoff hopes on the line, exactly one half of your 2008 Buffalo Bills showed up for today's contest with the San Francisco 49ers - plus Marshawn Lynch.  Despite a borderline dominant defensive performance and a 16-carry, 134-yard performance from its top back, the Bills ended Sunday's game with just a field goal to their names in an absolutely embarrassing 10-3 loss to the visiting 49ers.

The standings will say 6-6, but if you're savvy, you'll realize that these Bills are 2-6.  They've lost six of eight games, with this one the crappy icing on the cake.  With four very difficult games to finish the season approaching, including three against division opponents, the Bills are once again staring a losing record in the face.

Don't Blame the Defense
Despite giving up a touchdown on the opening drive of the game, Buffalo's defense once again accomplished more than enough to put a victory up on the board.  After that initial drive, the Bills surrendered just 123 yards, forced four fumbles, registered three sacks and surrendered just one more field goal.  Problem was, that initial touchdown was all the Niners would need to notch their fourth win of the season.

There isn't much more a defense can do for your team.  10 points surrendered at home should be enough to win handily.  On this day, it wasn't.

Buffalo's opponents have now drawn first blood in six consecutive games, and the slow starts collectively rank as a big reason the team has won just one of those six contests.  Add it up, and the Dolphins, Jets, Patriots, Browns, Chiefs and 49ers have thrown up 50 points on us before we've countered.  You're not going to win a lot of ballgames when you're buried early.

That's Mister Lynch if you're nasty
Exactly one offensive player showed up today, and it's not shocking that that man was Lynch.  San Francisco had no answer for Lynch, as the second-year back piled up 134 rushing yards, averaging 8.4 yards per rush.  This was his best game as a pro.

Unfortunately, Turk Schonert didn't realize it.  Despite the fact that Buffalo never trailed by more than 10 points, Schonert reverted to his old ways, dialing up 38 throws as compared to just 21 rushes between Lynch and Fred Jackson.  It didn't matter who was playing quarterback; Trent Edwards (with his injured groin) and J.P. Losman were equally ineffective on a terrible day for the passing offense.  Receivers weren't open.  The trickle-down effect was coverage pressure and 3 points.  If Schonert can't figure out how to beat eight-deep coverage, the Bills are staring 6-10 squarely in the face.

Long story short: I'm not sure what energies Lynch channels prior to each game, but he needs to share the mojo.  The rest of the group was terrible.  Lynch is an absolute pleasure to watch week in and week out; no other Bill can make that claim.

Lindell's woes continue
And that's really all that needs to be said about that.  The special teams unit wasn't great, and Lindell's two misses were the highlights.  Moving on.

Game balls
I'm too indifferent about this team at the moment to consider myself "nasty", so Mr. Lynch, this game ball's for you.  The rest of you can take a hike.

Roll call
Thanks to Ron and K for keeping the game threads going while I was storming out of The Ralph early.  42 of y'all made 1374 comments, with the three least surprising guys - norcaliangelsfan, WABillsfan and Kurupt - leading the way with 200+ comments apiece.  A special thanks to the 42 of you commiserating together, as listed below:

twoeightnine, norcaliangelsfan, WABillsfan, Kurupt, D.O., BuffCrunch, ccthemovieman, savedbychrist, SebastianPruiti, jj24, kaisertown, rjamesd08, macfresh, Ron From NM, geno227, Thronsen, Cinga, Memphisbillsfan, keuka121, Tatunka, Zumone, NJBill, LeClaireBill, BuffaloBrewed, NJBillsfan, Hassanali181, silverstreak3k, thejamootz, williamherbert, BillsNorth, StuckInNJ, McDole72, chaosthepitbull, mavadjdj, Dyl, Gino Parilli, aranearum, billsfor4, jdol1568, spavery, SSreporters, MARVelous

I'll repeat the question at the top: is it April yet?

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Was sick in bed all day,

so I didn’t see any of the game. How did Edwards play in the poor weather before the injury? When did the injury happen?

by Joe P. on Nov 30, 2008 5:44 PM EST   0 recs

He didnt play after the last play of the first half....

And he didnt look all that great…..I think he might have been hurt during the week or something….he didnt really have any ZIP on the ball…..and he threw at peoples feet a few times…..Just not a good day at all.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 5:47 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Jauron said post-game that Edwards was hurt early in the first half. No injury this week.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 5:51 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

well early in the game sounds about right too......

cuz he was not good

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 5:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Edwards was, well, not good. It wasn’t because of the weather though, in my estimation. Losman didn’t look any better.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 5:51 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

JP is....what he is....

He will make a couple of good throws……but the majority of the time..he’s just kinda crappy….he certainly didnt help himself to a big contract next year

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:00 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Blah!

I would make a comment but I am scared that I would go into a curse word filled rant and offend almost everyone on the site.

Why does it seem like every year we are asking “Is THIS the most disappointing year ever?” There’s something very wrong with that.

by RabidBuffalo on Nov 30, 2008 5:45 PM EST   0 recs

I won’t be offended :)

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 30, 2008 5:51 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

We also seem to think every year that “This is the year to break the slump.”

by BuffaloBrewed on Nov 30, 2008 5:56 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Im ready for March actually....and Angels spring training......

atleast that Front Office gives a crap about winning and doing what it takes to put a winner on the field……

With the Bills Im not so sure anymore.

Defense played great…….despite being screwed by the refs on more than one occassion. (Nice rebound considering what happened last week)

The offense….well…..its simple really……when the team depends on running the ball they do better than when they depend on passing the ball. I dont know if its EGO or what with Turk (being a former QB) But giving your best offensive weapon (Lynch) the ball ONE time in the forth quarter is positively absymal…..there is NO defending it….even Lee Evans pretty much called out Turk for his choice of play calling in the redzone….

Something needs to change….

As for “April” It really doesnt matter who they bring in…..if this kind of coaching still takes place….Hopefully something gets figured out soon…

sorry you had to witness that yuck fest in person Brian.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 5:46 PM EST   0 recs

Only saw the highlights

How on earth did the Bills not score any TDs???

by thefourwinds on Nov 30, 2008 5:52 PM EST   0 recs

Turk Schonert and the OL

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 30, 2008 5:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

not really the OL's fault when they dont even get a chance to run block from 5 yards in....

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 5:53 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, don’t blame the OL on this one. Not sure where that comes from. They played outstanding.

Well, I mean, yeah, Duke Preston sucked, but the rest of the guys were great.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 5:55 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

what else is new with Duke....

hell let Kirk Chambers be the center at this point

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 5:58 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Outstanding?

Really? I may have been too harsh on them earlier because I was so upset but I wouldn’t say they were outstanding. They allowed too much penetration again. The problem I have with this line is the inconsistency. They look really good one play and take two plays off. I could be wrong but I would guess that six tackles for a loss by the 49ers defense was more than most teams got today.

D.O.
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by D.O. on Nov 30, 2008 7:25 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Like I said. Four were outstanding, and Duke Preston was god-awful. The center position is the problem.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 8:39 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

As norcaliangelsfan mentioned when you asked this question elsewhere, it was piss poor play-calling. 38 passes to 21 runs, despite never being down by more than 10, awful weather and Lynch running like a maniac. Go figure.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 5:53 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

It's gotta be ego......

thats the ONLY reason I can think of………

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 5:55 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

like mike martz

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 5:55 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I see what you mean.

by thefourwinds on Nov 30, 2008 5:56 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I think that’s probably part of it, but I think it also has a lot to do with the fact that he’s a rookie. He makes good calls in-game, but his overall plans – save for 3 quarters against Cleveland and in KC – have been awful over the past 8 games.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 5:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

agreed.....its like...he's trying to prove he knows the best way to win.....

when in actuality….the results are speaking for themselves

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 5:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Dude, I feel like I’m in the Princess Bride…Inconceivable!

by thefourwinds on Nov 30, 2008 5:55 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I can see Turk…but the OL? Looked like they were opening plenty of holes.

by thefourwinds on Nov 30, 2008 5:53 PM EST   0 recs

They also gave both QBs decent time in the pocket

by BuffaloBrewed on Nov 30, 2008 5:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, any pressure on Trent/J.P. was coverage pressure.

SF also did a great job neutralizing our blitz by spreading us out. They’d put 4-5 receivers on the field, and our blitz was gone. That’s how they walked down the field on us on that first drive.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 5:58 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Ouch!!! I think I posted

that the loss of Greer would hurt us in 3/4 WR sets. Guess the 49ers thought so too.

by Joe P. on Nov 30, 2008 6:12 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

not really..only on first drive.....

other than that……..defense played good enough

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:13 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Running, the holes were there. Except down inside the 20. The play after Marshawn’s 50 yarder, he got blown up in the backfield for a 3 or 4 yard loss. The OL also allowed pressure on the QB’s when SF’s poor DL was rushing 3 or 4. Not good. They were good opening holes for the most part, but when we needed the yards the most, they didn’t seem to get it done. Much more blame goes to Schonert though.

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 30, 2008 5:58 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

agreed

the red zone line play was putrid, run and pass. losman holds onto the ball too long, but most of his pressures were caused by the pocket collapsing almost immediately.

line played great against a bad defense, but we lost yards or got nothing on first down run plays in very crucial situations throughout the game.

by jmorris0823 on Nov 30, 2008 7:18 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Exactly

This analysis is spot on Kurupt. That is what I have been trying to say all day and just couldn’t find the right way to say it. Thank you.

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by D.O. on Nov 30, 2008 7:42 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Listened to the post-game on the way home, folks. For the first time I think ever under Dick Jauron, some of the players got emotional, succinct and even feisty at the mic. Chris Kelsay was very honest. J.P. Losman made an arse of himself, with his “it’s an in-house game” rant that basically meant he wasn’t going to blame anybody; Lee called out Turk. It was almost refreshing.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 5:55 PM EST   0 recs

its about damn Time......

and for once Chris Kelsay played well (along with RYAN DENNEY!!!) so no blame can go to him….

JP is just a disgruntled worker at this point..

and great on Lee for calling our turk

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 5:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

wow, I didn’t think this team had any fire. At least some of the guys seem to. That is refreshing for once.

I wonder how fed up they are with coaching. Evans sure is, rightfully so.

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 30, 2008 6:03 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I’m sick of Turk Schonert. The guy has no clue out there. Enough of this learning on the job crap because it just isn’t working. Everybody makes mistakes in playcalling, but it’s his tendencies that are the problem. You can’t throw it almost twice as much as you run it, especially when it’s cold and rainy, and expect to have great success. Lynch was running pretty darn effectively and he only gets 16 carries? This has been a problem all year and Turk continues to show his ineptitude.

Attempting a FG with 5 minutes left down 7??? Brilliant call Jauron. It was only 4th and 7, not 4th and 20. You still need a TD there anyhow, so what’s the point with the FG in those conditions? Of course Lindell was going to miss it. The kick was missed the second you trotted him out there.

Why can’t we get a QB that can play in the weather? Trent again looked awful, making low throws and behind the receivers. I think the weather really affects him.

Roscoe continues showing the coaches he doesn’t deserve more time. Fielding the ball at the 1? Dropping a TD? Yeah, good job Roscoe….

We just lost to the 49ers at home, at 1pm, in a cold, rainy game. If that doesn’t tell you where this team is, I don’t know what does. This team stinks. It’s at the same point it was at 3 years ago. THere has been little improvement under this regime and we see the same garbage over and over. It’s frustrating to say the least….

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 30, 2008 6:00 PM EST   0 recs

Too much time working on "charity work" during thanksgiving.......

and not preparing to beat a crappy 3 win west coast team…..

ill-prepared all around…..and it starts at the top

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:04 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Being ill-prepared would also explain the consistent slow starts…..

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 30, 2008 6:11 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

exactly.......

I just dont understand how it could happen…..to an NFL team….

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:14 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

If Edwards is not going to work out,

that really could change our draft. I would not be surprised if we lose out. Does 6-10 put is in a position to draft a QB in the first round? Is there a QB who can actually play in the cold? I hate even thinking about having to draft a QB, dam it. We should have drafted Eric Ainge this year. I wanted a C, DE, and LB…now we need a QB…….Grrreeeaaatttttt!!!!!

by Joe P. on Nov 30, 2008 6:19 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Eric Ainge????? yuck.....a guy from Tennesee the SEC to play in the cold????

okay…..

Shoulda picked up Stanton or someone from the Big 10 if you wanted a cold weather QB…..not the SEC

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:23 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

are you saying Eric Ainge is as good as Brett Favre?

umm….no….I dont even believe that for one second……

plus its not like Favre lit it up in Green Bay until a few years down the road….

and in Cold weather Games it wasnt just Favre….that won them games.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:34 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

my point was

you don’t have to play college in the cold to be a good cold weather QB. I am not saying it doesn’t help, but there are successful cold weather QBs who have come from warm weather colleges.

by Joe P. on Nov 30, 2008 6:39 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

sure there are exceptions to every rule.....

but I think Edwards will be fine here…….but he cant be asked to WIN games right now…..it should be his job……it should be on Lynch and the highly paid OLINE

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:43 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

it shouldnt be his job*

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:44 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

fair enough

but if Edwards can’t play in the cold, we better hope the Bills get a new QB or move to Toronto! Has Edwards had one good game in the cold?

by Joe P. on Nov 30, 2008 6:46 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Hush you "sick" mouth!!!!!

Move??? I don’t think so… Least, I pray not…
As for a new QB… Give it another year, see if Trent gets it together for a whole season…
Unlike all the draft gurus, I don’t think the best QB in college will come out this year, since he doesn’t have too, for monetary reasons, as most early entries do… Besides, he has unfinished business in Dawg land…..

by Cinga on Nov 30, 2008 7:13 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

better chance of the "move" than

a dome being built in the greater Buffalo area. My point was that Edwards may not be able to succeed in Buffalo. He may need to play in fair weather or a dome. Either way, it seems time to hedge our bets. We need to start looking for our next starting QB now. If he sits for a few years, so much the better.

by Joe P. on Nov 30, 2008 7:58 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Attempting a FG with 5 minutes left down 7??? Brilliant call Jauron. It was only 4th and 7, not 4th and 20.

Well, he had just gone for it on fourth down in the ‘zone, and that was uglier than most of the rest of their ugly plays today. I’m not saying I’m happy with his decision – I’d have gone for it there, too – but you can at least see why he might be hesitant.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 6:43 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

yeah.......either way he botched both of those calls.....

considering he let a pass be called on 3rd and 4th and two……instead of running the ball….

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:45 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Those play-calls are blamed on Turk. Jauron lets Turk do his thing.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 6:46 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

well then he has to take blame for hiring him right?

i mean….i’ve coached football in HS….and I’ve called plays before…..and the HC always knows what play im going call….he has his input….

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

so he played it scared? If you fail once and it forces you to do something you shouldn’t later on, there’s a pretty big problem rooted in there….

~K

by Kurupt on Nov 30, 2008 6:55 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Like I said. Not agreeing with his decision. Just pointing out that there’s a counter-argument to make.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 30, 2008 7:16 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

problem with this team is.......

there are always counter arguments to make……

I know….I’ve made em…….eventually the excuses/arguments are gonna have to stop LOL

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 7:18 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

The problem is, that once Jauron decided to go for it on 4th down the first time, he had already made the choice about the way it needed to be played. If he kicks the field goal the first time, they are down by 4 and the possibility exists for either a TD or 2 FGs to get enough points, since there was enough time left for either route at that point. But once he went for the TD and didn’t get it, he effectively ended the “get enough FGs” route because of time left and possessions needed. So when the 4th down came up with 5 minutes to go, the only logical choice was to go for it. You couldn’t count on the “get enough FGs” route anymore, you needed the TD. A FG would have been essentially worthless since you still needed a TD down by 4. So it was just a really bad decision, not due to playing scared, just due to not using logic.

by fletcherjd on Nov 30, 2008 9:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

great post

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 11:37 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Yes, good post. Jauron is a horrific game day coach, and I will state that as fact until he gives me ONE example otherwise. Didn’t he go to an Ivy League school? Why is he incapable of thinking on his feet? I heard on one of the post game shows that both AVP and Kollar were livid with Jauron’s decision to kick the field goal. They were pleading with him to go for it and when he sent out the field goal unit, they supposedly threw their hands up in the air in total frustration and stormed away. Don’t know if any of this is true, just what I heard.

Jauron has always made poor decisions on game days, but it was his ability to get a young team prepared and ready to play every week regardless of the situations surrounding them that was supposedly his strong suit. Not sure what happened to all that, but I’m pretty sure we can throw that out the window. They consistently come out flat and (to me at least) look ill-prepared. We constantly hear Trent or others say, “They showed us a lot of stuff we weren’t expecting…” and we have to hope Jauron and Co. make some sort of miracle half time adjustment. So without preparation what is Jauron’s strong suit? Seriously, someone help me out because I am at a loss.

by thatguy34 on Dec 1, 2008 10:15 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Nice post. If that Van Pelt/Kollar thing is true, which I would believe it is, it wouldn’t surprise me. That call made NO sense, just like many of his other conservative calls.

The fact that they always seem to start out so poorly and look ill-prepared and not ready for certain things really does it for me. All Jauron does is put the team in position to not get embarrassed and to keep the game within reach. One positive he had going for him was that we usually beat the teams we were supposed to best, very rarely losing to teams with lesser records. Well, now we’re losing to these garbage teams at home in must-win situations. I’m sick of this outfit and wish Ralph hadn’t allowed the front office to become such a mess so we could actually make a move.

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 1, 2008 11:21 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

at home

coming out flat, is unacceptable. Same thing happened against the Jets. They looked awful, out of sync, penalties, wasted time outs and all that crap…….I just don’t get it. Trent is a frign statue in the pocket. I thought the OL played great and gave him tons of time. Screw it. This team is average .500 at best. Same crap different year. Too bad we don’t have an offense cuz the def and ST’s are good enough take this team to the playoffs

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Nov 30, 2008 6:15 PM EST   0 recs

I dont know......what I liked more

the Bledsoe teams that scored tons and tons of points……but had no defense….

or this in which the offense is god awful but the defense is good enough to win………

If i had to choose………I would take the great offense and crappy defense…..but in the end…that wont win you a championship either.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 30, 2008 6:18 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

So basically

these teams are the same as the Bears teams Jauron coached. Huh.

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 1, 2008 12:32 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

pretty much......

and the Bears now….are no different than when he left lol

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 1, 2008 12:39 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Except for the rings they got...

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 1, 2008 12:50 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

what an NFC championship ring?

okay big deal……

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 1, 2008 1:17 AM EST to parent up   0 recs