Injuries: BUF @ NE

by Kurupt on Nov 7, 2008 1:51 PM EST

Aaron Schobel, Josh Reed, Donte Whitner, Brad Butler and Ashton Youboty are all out this week.

Jason Whittle and Kawika Mitchell are questionable.

What is with all the injuries here the past few years? Poor training staff? Light preseason workouts and practices? Dumb luck? Last year, we only lost a few starters to injuries but this season it's starter after starter going down. That stinks.

Now we see that our lack of depth is really hurting us. If Mitchell doesn't play, who does? Blake Costanzo, Marcus Buggs, or Jon Corto? Oh God.

Looks like a Melvin Fowler/Duke Preston duo will be trying to contain Vince "Cheapshot" Wilfork this week. That just isn't going to happen.

It's obvious this team needs to continue improving depth to overcome these injuries.

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The only injuries that concern me are Schobel and the O-Linemen. These are areas where our depth is thin; I’m actually strangely confident in McKelvin and Corner this weekend, and Bryan Scott has been playing superbly. I wish we had Youboty back, but at least we’ve still got our starters.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 7, 2008 1:59 PM EST 0 recs

Chambers

CB reports Chambers was lining up at RG today. That would be alright with me if he can help out Preston/Fowler against WIlfork. Despite the injuries we just have to find a way to get it done. I still think this game rests on Trent’s shoulders. Sure, players around him have to pick it up, but he has to play well above average given the circumstances with all the injuries, on the road, huge division game, and we are playing the damn Pats. Come on Trent, play with confidence, supreme decision making, and be a leader for us on Sunday. Win this game, and the legend of Edwards grow much larger…

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Nov 7, 2008 2:09 PM EST 0 recs

I think this was probably just for emergency purposes. Fowler is likely to start at C, with Preston likely to start at RG; Chambers probably got reps there in the event that one of those two “starters” gets dinged.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 7, 2008 3:11 PM EST up 0 recs

I don't care who starts, I want Kugler to call the High-Low on Vince all day

Lets see how he likes it when his knees get messed up with Fowler and Preston playing a game of “Can you knee bend this way?” with him. I don’t care how we do it, but we need him off the field, and that means we gotta do something sketchy. VW is the man who makes their D go, and anyone who claims its Seymour doesn’t understand how that line is setup. Seymour may get the press, but Wilfork does the actual work.

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Nov 7, 2008 4:17 PM EST up 0 recs

Wow. I wouldn’t condone doing anything “sketchy” to gain a competitive advantage. That’s dirty. Do we really need to stoop to their level?

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 7, 2008 4:18 PM EST up 0 recs

I agree with this. No stooping please...

by krytime on Nov 7, 2008 6:53 PM EST up 0 recs

ITS NOT STOOPING...

It’s called protecting your players. When a guy gets beaned with a fastball what do you tell your pitcher to do? You tell him to go protect the rest of the lineup. If Vince Wilfork is a dirty player (and we all know he is), then you put his head on a swivel and cut block him, cheap shot him, do whatever it takes to protect OUR players if the league or the refs aren’t going to do it. It makes me wonder how many football fans actually know what it’s like to play a game as grueling as football. Because when there’s a dirty player on the field like Vince Wilfork, everybody knows who he is and to give him a good lick every chance you get, whether he sees it coming or not… because when A-holes like Wilfork throw 350 lbs around at people’s knees he needs to be dealt with.

"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."

by ForeignArrow on Nov 7, 2008 10:24 PM EST up 0 recs

Glad someone agrees with me

Wilfork is a cheapshot artist, and punks like him need to be taken down a peg. You protect your players, and the Bills now know he tried to destroy JPs knee. Even though JP isn’t starting anymore, the Bills online will be watching for BS from him. I expect we’ll see a lot of borderline and not so borderline shots taken on VW. A couple of earhole shots and maybe a couple of chop blocks will get him to the sidelines.

So far the NFL has done a piss poor job protecting players. How many horsecollars have not been called? What about Allens attempts to remove Schaubs knees from the rest of his anatomy? Wilfork is probably the dirtiest player on the Pats now that the bum known as Rodney Harrison is out for the season.

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Nov 8, 2008 12:59 AM EST up 0 recs

I agree with both of you.

This is also a prime chance for the Bills to say to the Pats “Screw you, we’re sick of being your whipping boy”. It’d be nice to show them we aren’t taking their crap anymore. Of course, that will never happen with you know who in charge.

by Kurupt on Nov 8, 2008 1:11 AM EST up 0 recs

Look, I’m all for repeatedly blind-siding the guy, if it’s done cleanly. What was proposed was purposely injuring the guy to “make our job easier”; that’s what’s wrong here. But as far as dirtying up Wilfork, be my guest.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 8, 2008 8:07 AM EST up 0 recs

There's a fine line between dirty and clean...

If you want to say, “Screw you, we’re sick of being your whipping boy,” then you man up and punch the bully in the nose. You can beat the hell out of someone without being cheap about it. Why is that not an option? Why would they have to deliver a cheap shot to send a message? If you’re not a man enough to deliver a shot without it being cheap, then you’re a p***y. I don’t want my team to be like that…

by krytime on Nov 8, 2008 11:31 AM EST up 0 recs

This is exactly what I was trying to say, except kry put it more eloquent-like.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 8, 2008 11:37 AM EST up 0 recs

foreignarrow's point

is that dealing with a 350 lb DTs who intentionally play to hurt other players is a part of the game and so is playing dirty to put that jerk in his place. It is a part of the game and if you don’t accept it because you don’t want to b a p***y then you are going to get your players hurt and you are not doing your job as a coach or player. Need I remind you that a QB lost his starting position and could have missed a year of football because he went for his knee. Offensive lineman and defensive lineman scratch kick and bite each other when they can, it is a part of the game. if Wilfork wants to take that to the next level, and the refs wont penalize him for it, it is part of the game to fight him on that next level. Football isn’t about being noble, its about kick the other teams ass. I don’t want my team to be the players who take stuff to a dirty level, but I sure as hell want them to be a team that can hold their own when the opponent goes there.

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by poz on Nov 8, 2008 12:32 PM EST up 0 recs

Fowler

I gained a real and true appreciation for how much worse things could be than Fowler. Preston was wretched in his place. I now know that for all sh*t I have given him he is at least a passable center.

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by poz on Nov 8, 2008 12:34 PM EST up 0 recs

Just because Preston was so bad doesn’t miraculously make Fowler a passable center. Don’t you recall how pathetic Fowler is? Has the stench from Preston clouded your opinion on Fowler that much?!?!?!?!?

by Kurupt on Nov 8, 2008 1:02 PM EST up 0 recs

haha

perhaps it has. Preston was sooooooo freaking bad though. I couldn’t believe it. I was actually MISSING Fowler!!

I’m sure I’ll get a refresher course on how frustrating it is to watch Fowler play this Sunday. Come Monday I’ll be back to complaining about him too.

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by poz on Nov 8, 2008 1:21 PM EST up 0 recs

I would call Preston/Fowler the Tweedle brothers

Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum, all that is different is their names, not their wretched inability to play football.

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Nov 8, 2008 4:23 PM EST up 0 recs

Scary about Mitchell

If he’s out, we’re F’ed

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Nov 7, 2008 2:15 PM EST 0 recs

maybe Buggs is a gamer?

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Nov 7, 2008 2:33 PM EST up 0 recs

Doesn’t matter if he is, because Jon Corto would start.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 7, 2008 3:11 PM EST up 0 recs

Buggs

is a gamer, but he’s a 225 lb rookie gamer.

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by ForeignArrow on Nov 7, 2008 10:25 PM EST up 0 recs

Pats Injuries?

Who do the Pats have out. CB from Buffalobills.com blogged about their possible inactives, but are there any updates. As many starters as we have out, whats the deal with their swiss cheese secondary?

by billsct11 on Nov 7, 2008 2:55 PM EST 0 recs

out

well….brady, harrison, jordan, morris, sanders (cb, o’neal will replace).

maybe a few more….those are the notables

by J2 on Nov 7, 2008 3:01 PM EST up 0 recs

Maroney, too, of course. Still not as many RBs out as the Broncos, though.

by Krenn on Nov 7, 2008 3:10 PM EST up 0 recs

Random Thoughts

Mitchell would be a big loss, b/c the Pats have been running alot. However, I really hope that the Bills put Spencer Johnson at DE and have Denney rotate with those guys. Denney should not play so many snaps. Let McCargo rotate with the DT’s and let Denney rotate with Kelsay Johnson. I do not really have any interest in seing Copeland Bryant on the field (unless its special teams). Plus my rationale is Green Ellis is a straight ahead runner and we could use the size up front. Especially is we put Corto in for Mitchell.

I suppose it is good news Chambers is at Guard. I have decided it would be difficult to be much worse than what we have seen the last 2 weeks.

Interesting decision for Fewell is whether he moves Greer on Welker when we are in the nickle and lines McKelvin outside or puts Corner in the slot on Welker. I am 50/50 on which one will end up happening.

Roscoe needs to have a big day. Exploiting the Pats nickle corner is the way to go on Sunday. Josh Reed will be missed (Wow…about 6 months ago I never could imagine writing that). Gonzalez caught 2 TDs last week out of the slot.

Lynch needs to not get nausious.

Edwards needs to be more aware both inside our 20 and inside their 20. FGs are more points than turnovers.

Jauron needs to use timeouts and challenges wisely, especially in the second half.

My Critical Matchup of the day: Poz v. K. Faulk. Does anyone else feel if we shut down faulk we stand a real solid chance to win…..eh…maybe that one is just me.

by Berg79 on Nov 7, 2008 5:45 PM EST 0 recs