Bills at Patriots: Open Game Thread
by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 12:15 PM EST
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Buffalo Bills (5-3) at New England Patriots (5-3)
1:00 PM EST, Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, MA
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The Buffalo Bills are set to take on the New England Patriots in a battle atop the AFC East in just under an hours' time. I don't have much to say about this one, because we all know what's at stake. After two straight divisional losses, the Biils face what is essentially a must-win in a stadium from which they have not emerged victorious since 2000. Without a win, Buffalo falls to 5-4 - a record they also held in 2007, when they finished 7-9.
This is your open game thread for today's game. I'll be here, as always, and hope to see as many of you as possible here as well. If you're a lurker and would like to join in for today's thread, create an account and hop right on in. This is a big one. Get your game faces on, and GO BILLS.
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Bills make me wanna SHOUT!
by silverstreak3k on Nov 9, 2008 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Is this the first time or just the most recent in a long time?
Those types of trips can backfire I’ve found :-P
The big question for me is this, is Wilfork playing or not? Sadly, it looks like he is, get ready to watch Fowler and Preston get beat like rented mules today folks. Hope Turk is really ready to run outside, we are going to need to.
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Yes, Wifork is active. Pats inactives: CB Terrance Wheatley, S Lewis Sanders, RB LaMont Jordan, RB Sammy Morris, LB Eric Alexander, OT Wesley Britt, OG Billy Yates.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me, or does Dick Enberg sound either drunk, or having a stroke on a live cast?
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maybe a bit of both
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by silverstreak3k on Nov 9, 2008 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on where you live, if your near Buffalo, it shoul be Pat vs.Bills
Everywhere else its that game becauseTenn is 8-0 and thus a more important game.
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I do live in Buffalo
I’m not sure what WIVB is doing. But it is on CTV
by BuffaloBrewed on Nov 9, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Wait… were those rushing yards?
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Yes, maybe Sully pissed off the oline enough to make them run
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wow, what poor protection, 4 seconds and bam, TE down
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Penalties, sacks… nothing’s changed.
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That was a weak call though...
Don’t you think?
by SebastianPruiti on Nov 9, 2008 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe against the Bills, alot of other games that isn't
CHALLENGE DJ!
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One other game you've seen, wow, that means the other 100+ that wasn't
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what a BS call, thats not a penalty in any other game, thats a Pats suck up call
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McGee is on Moss, hope they roll some S coverage that way
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typical Bills luck, we throw the challenge flag down and no one seesit
And Matt scores, wtf
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Oh Lord, here we go…
No, it’s not a lack of passion. It’s bad, but it’s not a lack of passion.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Ever watch Belichik
He sprints out on the field to let the official know he is challenging…that is passion!
Did you see Jauron not make a move to be seen? Seriously, like I said – it’s bad, but it seems like y’all search for little things to blame on Jauron. It’s kind of sad.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
All I said wasour luck was lousy the officials seem to be blind
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Jauron
I’m actually a Jauron supporter and have been since day one…but there was no question that was not a catch and he had plenty of time to make sure the ref seen it…there are no excuses for the ref to have not seen that flag.
We don’t even know what happened… maybe the folks talking to Jauron saw it wasn’t a catch too late. That’s all I’m saying, so before we jump down his throat, let’s relax.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not without pass protection. The writing’s on the wall, thatguy…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Normally, I would agree with you, but
they just marched down the field with no resistance. And other than that run on the first drive, the line looked like absolute crap. They need to turn it around now or it’s game over.
Where the hell were Poz and Mitchell going?
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Ugh. Back to being a real Bills fan, a.k.a. Masochism.
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My suggestion? Date a woman who is a Sadist,makes itmore bearable to be a Bills fan
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Yeah, I've seen this before
for decades..
by ccthemovieman on Nov 9, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I am not one to usually complain about how the officials screwed my team, but they really gave the Patriots two big calls on that drive.
I wonder sometimes if the NFLdoesn't tell the officials to suck up to the Pats
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Anyone with Time-Warner In WNY
know why this game isn’t in HD on Channel 704?
It's finally on HD on Ch. 704
It only took them 20 minutes to get it right.
by ccthemovieman on Nov 9, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Royal DIDN'T fumble! Maybe our luck will be better than I thought!
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Don't go jinxing it now
Ugh…post-PSU loss hangover in full effect
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
That stretch run wasn't developing fast enough, Freddy had no where to go, he needs to look to bounce that back faster
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Inexcuseable...
Coaching cost the Bills a TD. You HAVE TO challenge that…I don’t care what you have to do. You CANNOT let that go unchallenged.
WTF, thats a horrible False Start
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On the officials I meant, Jason didn't do anything wrong
ROSCOE! Thats was a Reed play there
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Aaaand Peters with a false start
Playing his way out of a better contract every week
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:20 PM EST reply actions
Not Peters’ fault. Ridiculous call.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh..my bad
I went to grab advil and missed the play, just heard it was on him and assumed the worst…I’m not having an optimistic sports weekend.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Hence the Advil, I take it?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, yes
Related- I hate Iowa sooooo much. But I did get to enjoy most of my case of Labatt’s that I brought back from Buffalo last week. So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice. Well, was nice. Now it’s headachey.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not
Related, did you know that Matt Cassel is replacing Tom Brady? THE Tom Brady! I know!
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Lynch needs to look to bounce outside there
When the lines stack up like that, bounce it outside ML
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Hardy was open TE, gotta get it to him buddy
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I was wondering if that was the case
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps, but dang it, he was wide open, chuck him the ball, better than the resulting play
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There’s your field position, WA…
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Yeah, now the D needs to do its job and keep them behind the dang 50
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Not so much.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Good field position drive.
Anyone think Hardy should have just ran a freakin 5 yard out on that?
GO BLUE!!!
Corner is playing rather solid
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:27 PM EST reply actions
Good play by Corner, nice SOLID tackle
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Again with the freaking QB scramble/draw
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Greer needs to be on Moss, or we need to double him or something
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Nice play by Williams and Scott there
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McGee does look less like the corpse he was the past 2 games
But he will get chewed up by Moss without help
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Nicely done there.
Good stop, let’s do something with it.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:30 PM EST reply actions
if we could get a pass rush
i really think our defense would be close to great, all the passes cassel has beat us on have been because he has enough time to have a sandwhich in the pocket
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mmmmm, sandwhich, Ham and Cheese or Ruben......
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The return of Trent Losman…
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ummmm, wow, thats a ummmmmm, poor pass?
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This is familiar
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply actions
Duke Preston’s hurt. Why? Vince Wilfork blind-sided his ass after the pick.
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Are you implying that Wilfork is…dirty?!
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I would, except that hit was completely legal.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
So, what about doing something sketchy now Bri?
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Wilfork just earholed Preston and injured him
Anyone else disagree we need to bust that bums knees next drive?
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Yes. Legal hit.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Why? Because it’s the Buffalo Bills.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. We started 4-0, this is merely the wagon circling from that.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Stare into the sun for about an hour
It’s the same concept- painful and possibly blinding.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
We are getting a clinic right now on how to run the ball between the tackles
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I’m not a fan of him in general. Give me GuJo, or give me silence.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Swear that dude was drinking before this one because of the stat, 14 of 15 lost by us
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Victory, yes. “Great” victory? Not so much.
21 points off of turnovers for our 3 biggest rivals in the last 3 weeks and counting…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Me too. I said it was a victory…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
21 points off of turnovers is still inexcusible.
Giving the other team the ball is unexcusible.
I am so glad we play Kansas City and San Francisco soon.
Considering the way our luck has been running so far today? I consider it great
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Maybe its the lack of brain power this morning, er, afternoon- but that idea intrigues me.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Can'twork in the NFL, the line rules would prevent it from being used
e.g. number of men up on it, and the spacing
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Is it me,or is CSI: Miami the weakest spin off tv show ever? MILF hookers this upcoming episode, bite me
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While I would normally sign up for that, sadly its 1- CSI and 2- On network TV
It needsto be on Skinimax for it to be any good
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I don’t watch any of those Law & Order, CSI type shows. They bore me. That one looks especially boring.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
i love law and order
but thats cuz i strive to be jack mccoy
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by silverstreak3k on Nov 9, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, our luck might be turning!
Out f bounds on the Kick Off? Lets gets 7 gang!
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Why are we in Shotgun in that situaton?
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Wow.
I realize it worked, but we come out in an empty backfield on 3rd and 1?
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:47 PM EST reply actions
You can do those newfangled things now?
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
The Line
Hasn’t been giving him enough time under center
by SebastianPruiti on Nov 9, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Parrish is starting to step up and play like Reed
He MUST keep it up the WHOLE game for us to win
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Lynch just pushed that whole pile himself, what a play
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Now that's an idea
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Umm, Turk no 3 straight dive plays, PLEASE
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Edwards checked out of a play there.
See why you can’t run outside on NE?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
ummm, that was a really really bad play call and ML had no where to go
Way to settle for three Turk
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If this was on say the 30 yard line I would swear it was to get Lindell better positioning to kick the FG
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Again… Edwards checked out of a play. Would have liked to see a throw on 2nd down.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Turk may have given Trent 3 plays to call at the line depending on formation
The issue is that when your on the 4 yard line, it compacts the D and makes it easier for them to flow to the ball. I guess I should blame both for this one
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Why? Edwards was the one who chose the run out of the 3 plays you mentioned. Why does Schonert get blame there?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Only if it is called in the appropriate situations
Hardy was one on one in the back of the endzone, would have preferred a jump ball there
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Despite The Result...
That drive made me happy for the most part, one more stop by the D and we got something going…
Agreed, but we need more of the same when the Pats don't give us a free start on the 40 yard line
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Wow, Cassel had more time than he knew what to do with there
And our DBs broke down, ouch
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Not a bad idea, we had 7 back and that didn'thelp
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Bottom line..
Good teams start with good O and D-lines. Buffalo has neither. Until they do, they are an also ran team.
There is the downside of blitzing, the QB gets free, he has a lot of running room
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Seriously. Do we need to put a spy on Cassel? He ain’t Michael Vick, Buffalo…
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Um… kinda hard to score when NE has the ball…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
We need some ball control if we want to score. Which means running the ball, and running it well. And some passes and playactions mixed in.
Wow, they have 3 WRs on the freaking field and we have our BASE 4-3 on the field? SUBSITUTIONS FEWELL!
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Corner has a hell of alot better chance keeping up with Welker than Poz on the underneath route
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Glad to seeMcGee make the play, and Simpson got a nice shot in too
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Ellison was in good position, to bad he couldn't keep his hands on the ball
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I wasn't knocking him for it, it was more wishful thinking
He was all set toblow up Faulk if he caught that ball
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2 minute drill, and I predict we run it on 1st down each time, and we go shotgun on 2nd and 3rd
And we cough it up, again.
Nah, that can’t happen to us 3 times in a row
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That's his second...
He got one last week too
by SebastianPruiti on Nov 9, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
It’s actually his third. He caught one in Arizona, too.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
I’d rather it was Hardy 2 and Stevie 3.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
TE had like 3 seconds, no wonder it was behind Hardy
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Lee Evans?
I haven’t been able to watch the game. Has the ball been thrown in Evans’ direction yet?
Twice,once it was caught by Parrish and the other was TE's INT
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I’d like to see it too… but not going for it doesn’t make him a coward.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t mean fake, I meant go for it on fourth. But there’s definitely logic to punting, especially considering Moorman is awesome.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
We have nothing to lose, take a chance at this point
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Haha. Brian Moorman rules.
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Yeah, but if the plan was to do that originally, we just wasted a TO when we need it
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If that was the Madden gameplan of pin them deep, take three TOs and then get it back for the fast FG, we blew it there
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It’s pretty freaking miraculous that we’re still in a game in New England.
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I am not impressed with our game plan.
Still stuck in a rut on O and not aggressive (blitz) on D
everything goes better with bacon
Part of the D is matchups, we really need to just put Corner on Welker the whole game
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I hope Steve J gets more time in the 2nd.
If you’re gonna use Hardy, THROW IT TO HIM
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We’ve blitzed. When it doesn’t get there, we get burned. The conservatism on defense has actually kept us in the game.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeh, cannot aruge overall with the score. We're very much still in this!
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I can't stand watching hardy
I know that some of edwards throws to him were not at all good but recievers get paid to make hard catches.
Get used to it. He’s still a rookie.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Keep throwing to him.
It is apparent that their strategy is to open the whole play book up to him. I’d do it differently, but that TD catch shows his potential. Why we just do not throw the fade to him in the red zone is baffling. He is a hard worker. He will be a real good target.
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Since when is a 5-yard run on first and 10 a first down, Dick Enberg? Time to retire.
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ummm 8 yards off on 3 and 3? Again? Seriously Fewell?
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Play was going left. It was 3rd and 1. Moss is hurt.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
And Wilfork get hurt too
Btw, your a fan, your allowed to feel that way, if your on a team, not so much
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Glad to see Fewell is at least putting McGee AND Simpson on Randy
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Kyle Williams is my favorite Bill. Without question. It’s not close.
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Ellis is a very patient runnner, this is turning into a clinic on how to run
I mean, Turk and Co. should just show the Pats O plays this week to get the line to learn how to block and RBs how to run
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Okay, the Bills must make a solid drive with7 at the end
And Turk, please for the love of the football gods, stop with the throw only from the Shotgun!
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Nice return by Leodis, some nice moves
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Same old song and dance
I cannot take another game without a pass rush. Where are the playmakers in Buffalo? This is Matt Cassel for crying out loud.
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 9, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions
Cripes, Shotgun, and PASS!
How did we avoid getting sacked or an INT there? A 5 year old could know how to gameplan a D aganst us right now
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Third time today we’ve been in shotgun on 3rd and 1. Absolutely freaking ridiculous.
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This is REALLY REALLY PISSING ME OFF
WHY THE F^%$ are we passing there?
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If you expect it, it doesn’t piss you off as much. Trust me – it’s a strategy I practice. Beer also helps.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Too early for that on the WC and my wife would killme if I was to drunk to take her grocery shopping after the game
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Meh, I’m not a liquor guy.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Long Island Ice Teas work real well
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At the very least, it’s kind of fun knowing exactly what the Bills are going to run before they actually do it.
The only thing we are missing is the 3rd and long draw play ala Thurman in the old days
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It's like the whole organization is becoming more conservative
as the season goes by
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Went from an idea of "Lets win no matter what" to "We got paid, lets not lose to bad!"
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Maybe DJs extension should have waited till closer to the end of the season
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Our saving grace here is that NE is calling a conservative game plan too.
Short stuff and we mmostly are covering it
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Denney is actually making some plays
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Once again, why do we have LBs on Welker?
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When we should be playing combo coverage on Welker and Moss
A CB on Welker and a S and CB on Moss, let the other guys handle the other WRs in zone
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Holy penetration, Marcus Stroud.
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Nothing against Roscoe Parrish
but is he really our top offensive performer this game? Not Edwards, Evans, or Lynch?
I vote for Steve Johnson.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Lets see here
1- Abadoned the run game to early? Check
2- Passing on obvious situations like shotgun? Check
3- No orignality in play calling? Check
Going to lose? YES
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That commentator is also Randy Cross, one of the dumbest human beings in existence.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I do. Has everything to do with formation.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Wow,we actually got a penalty for us?
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You type loudly. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Trent can'tpass it, I think his hand is more messed up than people think
When Vrabelsmacked his hand running unabated earlier
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Bad, bad read, J.P. Rob. Trent.
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I think that floated because of Vrabel's hit on his hand and Wilfork then landing on him
He put his throwing hand right down on the ground on that hit, and has been shaking his arm and hand the last couple of plays. It might not be the only reason, but it probably didn’t help.
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If it had floated, it would have been incomplete. Trent made a bad read; the corner feigned man, but was really in zone. Trent threw it right to him.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
The interceptions always come from a defensive player coming from the other side
everything goes better with bacon
On that interception, we had a guy wide open on the right side line
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I feel bad for Edwards
He’s not only dealing with the Pats D, but his O-line is doing all they can to make sure he doesn’t get up after each throw.
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I don’t feel bad for him. He’s played terribly today.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I still think he’s too green to say that he can manipulate an NFL game. Because of that (and until that point is reached by Edwards), there are higher standards the line will need to be held up to.
Sure Trent is playing badly, but he’s really trying to do so much more on his own than he should.
Then there’s Matt Ryan in Atlanta.
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 9, 2008 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Once again, 3WRs on the field, and we still have 3 LBers on the field
Welker will continue to chew us up if we keep playing like that
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HOLY CRAP did something go our way?
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Yes, yes it did.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
I love it
Every time Edwards makes a bad play there are plenty of people making excuses for him…not everyone but plenty. If it was J.P. in the game we wouldn’t see anyone making excuses.
Ironically enough…it was the complete opposite when J.P. was backing up Drew. No excuses for Drew but every excuse that people could find for J.P.
Nice strip by Stroud
Looks like he has decided to do something today
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Wow
A pass rush that results in a favorable play?!
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Must have been a coverage sack. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Lynch is starting to run like he did last season
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Okay, we are starting to run it, now lets go PA!
PLEASE!!
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WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY GOD
WHY THE F^%$ are we doing a freaking obvious pass play Turk you MORON
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To bad Turk and Edwards decided to take the week off
Wasting good efforts by the D and STs today
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Can I start calling for Turk's head now? I mean, we were rushing it well
And then we go freaking shotgun, sack, go shotgun, and failed pass.
Why not go PA? The run was working! WTF!
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You can, but it’s not gonna happen. You’ve got a better chance with Fewell. The D has kept them in it again, though…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Not disagreeing on Fewell today, he has made some small mistakes, but he has done well to keep us in it
STs too, O has stunk it up BAD
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Theory on McKelvin
If good at punts, up the gut
If good at kickoffs, good at running outside
He runs best up the gut
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What a piss poor Blitz by MItchell, that was a give up Blitz
He attacked like he knew he wasn’t going to make it, and didn’t even give good effort
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D is starting to look gassed
Not good
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Not surprising, either.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
HOLY CRAP Fewell, they have 4, count them 4 WRs on the field
And we are playing goddang freaking base 4-3?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!
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Wow, I bust my ankle and come home to this garbage?
What the hell is going on? Trent playing pathetic again, it sure looks like it???
And it sure looks like the D won’t get off the field here…..
This team really does suck now doesn’t it………oye
~K
Wait, you busted your ankle? Don’t you need to add an again to that? Haven’t you done that before?
This one is squarely on the offense. D and ST have been solid; ST, in fact, has been superb.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but now it’s my other one….argh
How bad has Trent been? I see the pass to Royal was horrendous, as was the sack after holding it too long. Obviously, there’s no run game
~K
Besides the two picks, he’s been errant on probably a half-dozen throws. He just looks jittery.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I think EVERY real Bills fan would consider it.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I do want to point out one thing, though. This team doesn’t suck. They’re not terrible, garbage, etc. If I may steal a line from the great Dennis Green, “they are who we thought they were.” An 8 or 9 win team. The fast start against a few pathetic teams made them appear to be much more than they actually are.
You forget who we play. Our schedule is still ridiculous.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings
Trent has not played the same since the coucussion
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He was outstanding against SD, which, I believe, falls into the “since the concussion” category.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
yeah….he was great there….
Maybe he just isn’t that good? I like him, but if he doesn’t have time to throw, he looks sort of bad….
~K
Well, what QB doesn’t?
We’ve got to get better in the trenches, and lose the laughable predictability offensively. That’s really the long and short of it.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
McNally, I think, I really do think the loss of him has been more major than people think.
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OK I give.
If we are to become a force on O, we need to block differently.
everything goes better with bacon
How about we play Hamdan for the next drive since we will be down 20-3?
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We already got the one we could count on, and we blew it on the play calling
it won’t help methinks
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7 freaking seconds for Cassel there
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Or turn it over. Or get Edwards killed.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Luckily Jauron punted from the 40 down 10 in the 4th….I don’t care if it was 4th and 11 or whatever, at some point you’ve gotta step up and try to make plays. Can’t rely on the Tampon D late in games to get off the field, we knew that already. UGH!
~K
This might be the first and last time I agree with you on a topic related to Dick Jauron.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Jauron is gutless, you really have to admit that. Grow a pair Coach!!! Show your team you actually want to win and have confidence in them to make a play. Punting doesn’t do that, I’m sorry….
~K
I argued for a go for it earlier in the game
We had NOTHING to lose here, we haven’t won here before, why not pull out all the stops
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Show your team you actually want to win and have confidence in them to make a play.
On that latter part… HA. I don’t blame him for lacking that confidence in his offense.
I don’t think he’s “gutless”, but that’s a little too conservative for me.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
So, lets see here, how about we play Hamdan if we get it back
What do we have to lose?
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So lets get Trents #2 for next year some game experience?
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Game is over dude, we won't win
Hamdan is Trent’s #2 next year, lets get him some experience in a real game, JP is gone next season
Trent has been ineffectual today, and we won’t make a comeback the way the O is being called
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A) There’s absolutely NO guarantee that Hamdan is the #2 next year.
B) Edwards is never going to get better if we bench him for a guy who MIGHT be our #2 next year.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Why? Trent has played poorly, and is going to get smacked hard for the final2 minutes if we continue to throw it
I would prefer to risk our #3 there
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He needs to work through it. Pulling him does NO good for him. Seriously, it’s a bad idea.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, my guess is this for the last 2 minutes
1- 90% chance of 2 sacks if we decide to pass
2- 10% INT
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I think we’ll just run out the clock, actually. Trent can hand it off, right?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Don'tworry, he'll fumble it and get hit and break his arm or leg
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He’s worked for it, K. The D has been dogging it all afternoon because our O is pathetic.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
So was Willie Parker. Green-Ellis is a good player. He’s SO patient. And again, he’s gotten better because of the fact that the D is worn down.
Same story as last season. Strong defensive effort, but a breakdown at the end of the game.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Trent gets worse every week. this is three weeks in a row you can hang the loss on him. We may very weel be one of the 3 worst teams in the league. Lynch is a bust.
Taking it too far, once again. I get the negativity, it’s warranted, but the hyperbole is ridiculous. Come on.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
The Lynch as a bust part is really of the mark. No one could run behind this line, no one. As for the Trent comment, I find it hard not to agree that he seems to have regressed. maybe it’s injuries or maybe it is the competition. That said, he just doesn’t make enough plays and doesn’t get the ball to the endzone – though some of that is the total lack of running game.
That's ridiculous
Even from me!
We aren’t in the top half, but we definitely aren’t at the bottom….
~K
It doesn't matter
Might as well try to stop them….3 scores isn’t going to happen. We could very well luck into 2 somehow, though it’s 99% unlikely.
Looks like Belicheck might be pulling the anti-running up the score???
~K
He knows there is NO chance of our O making any plays
Why bother risking a TO?
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Best part of the day? This game has gone MERCIFULLY fast.
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Nah, peeps will tune in to watch Brady “Flyboy” Quinn.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Fast game
The good news is that the operation will take under 3 hours to rip out the hearts of Bills fans. Hows that for efficiency! 2-9 is looking out of reach. How about extending Fowler’s and Preston’s contracts as well.
2-9?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that was craptacular
The line took turns screwing up, the running game went nowhere and Edwards was dreadful.
So we’re not supposed to get excited because McKelvin’s had a good day?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
It was nice either way. He had a nice return earlier, too.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
We have literally no chance at the playoffs starting the division 0-3 and sitting in last place. The Jets and Dolphins have cake schedules, I’m sure NE does too. This sucks
~K
NE has to play Pittsburgh yet, so they’ve got at least one tough game…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Alright, now only 2more Onsides!
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Jauron must gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, and some coaches too!!
For that matter I hope Ralph Wilson sells the team. He had disagreements with Polian and that was his first mistake. Also, Ted Marchibroda, John Butler and A.J. Smith. He lost all of his front office talent because of pride and things have never been the same!! An organization is only as good as it’s leadership. Bet on the Jockey and not the horse. Until ownership, management, and coaching change the Bills will live in the cellar.
Oh, just stop. Are you kidding me?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t think we are one of the worst teams in the league? Name three teams you are sure we could beat. Edwards is pathetic. Afraid to throw deep. How come Evans was always open downfield when JP played and NEVER is when Edwards is in? He has the look of a career backup to me. No Balls.
Oh my GOD. STOP. The earth is ending!
Three teams I’m sure we could beat? Seattle, Jacksonville, Oakland, St. Louis, San Diego… that’s five.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Nice onside, but WIlson busted up himself on that
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touched one of our guys, saw it on the 3rd replay
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It wasn't going to matter
but the league once again proves to be a joke with that call…and non-review.
No I am not kidding…….Ralph Wilson must go if the Bills are going to go anywhere. He had disagreements with all of our top management years ago and we have never been the same. Our front office and coaching are lost!!
But… you’re wrong. Didn’t Ralph own the team when we went to 4 straight Super Bowls?
Seriously, there are much, MUCH more pressing issues on this team than the ownership.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
4 of the last 5 have been lost
Holy poop guys, way to play up to your competetion
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There are rules expressly against spamming comments like this. You’ve made your point. Cease and desist, please.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
So guys who saw the whole game…..any outside runs? Any screens (doubt it since Lynch had no catches and Jackson 2)? It was the same garbage from Schonert right? This guy really hasn’t done a whole lot different than SFM other than passing in odd situations…..
~K
Yes, there were outside runs. They rarely worked.
Yes, it was mostly Schonert. We threw out of shotgun on 3rd and 1 three times today. That pretty much says it all.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Are we sure Schonert is THE guy? He just doesn’t seem to get it when he makes things so obvious and easy to stop. Does Jauron not say anything to him about it?
~K
I haven’t seen anything out of Jauron about Schonert, but I’ve heard a few things, and I’d love to hear his thoughts publicly.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
His challenge or lack there of gave up a touchdown……I am not spamming, i have lived in Buffalo for most of my life and was born here and am tired of watching incompetence!!
No, you were definitely spamming. This isn’t, because there’s actually some substance to the post.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Fair point.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
We all are
I would love to lead the Dick Jauron must go bandwagon, but if someone has that in every one of their posts, it’s kind of annoying and outrageous….
~K
Bears-Ten may go OT
Bears are showing some friskiness near the end of the 4th Q
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Yeah, and the Bears D is just shutting them down
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That’s what a Cover 2 scheme is supposed to look like.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Bears getting the ball back with almost 4 minutes
OT on the way baby! Good hard hitting game here
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Yup, back Rex reared its head
Bears fans will be praying for Orton to come back next week against the Packers. My word, I can’t believe I just wrote that.
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This team needs a shakeup
There needs to be some attitude, some aggression, some heart. I’d also like to see less show-boating when they’re losing 20-3.
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I know. Nobody is thinking positive now
but think of the DE we’ll get next April
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I just hope there’s a good pass rusher available, one that can help IMMEDIATELY. But he may have to be found in the 2nd round as Center is as big of a need….
~K
If Mack is there for us in the 1st, we MUST take him
I wouldn’t be adverse to trading back into the 1st for a great rusher though if we get Mack early
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I know
We have TWO GLARING needs, at least, so who knows what we might have to do. I do wish we had some extra draft picks this year!
~K
If Mack is available, we MUST take him (KENT HULL), if not, Luigs or best DE
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Interestingly enough
Both Mack AND Luigs grade out way above avg. An unusual year for C. Either one will be a force for years for their team.
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These guys are killing me.
To think that I got in an argument with my wife to watch this piece of crap game. My playoff hopes have been officially shattered. Can’t win without a DE who can pressure the QB. Can’t win with poor center play. Can’t run when you can’t run the ball. We’ll need a monster draft and a FA or two next year.
Ha! Comment of the DAY, NJBill. Well played.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Annoying and outrageous? Are we allowed to call it like it is or are we going to be kool-aid drinkers for the rest of the season?
Yes, annoying and outrageous. We. Get. Your. Point. Now. Stop.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
That’s why we have voices. Yell it. This is a place for points to be made, not spammed.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
The real problem
I think the real problem is that from the beginning he was told to chill but nobody ever debated his point that Jauron needs to go. It’s kind of like when my 4 year-old says something and my answer is quiet down instead of an answer to her question, she asks again and again and again.
So why shouldn’t Jauron go?
For the same reasons that he got an extension? For the same reasons that we (I) repeat here on a daily basis?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Brian...I agree with you
I’m a Jauron backer…I’m just saying that he called out Jauron and was immediately told to chill with no reason why Jauron should stay.
Maybe he is a newcomer to the site and never read anything else you have posted.
Maybe it’s because my site is much worse than yours and nobody visits it but I just thought it was comments from an angry Bills fan and he didn’t get anyone to counter his point. I would love to get this type of interaction on my site.
I am so fed up of Turk Shonert
Why always in the Shotgun?
Marshwan had some good runs, why not keep with it?
First the Bills lose
And now since I’m playing the guy with Maurice Jones-Drew I will lose in Fantasy as well
And that has been over a third of my opponents points as well, this day officially sucks as the worst day of my fall so far as a sports fan.
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I gotta rely on Tony G to keep me ahead
He has Peyton Manning, Brandon Jacobs, and Kaeding yet to play
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I’d like to place 98% of the blame on Turk Schonert and Nathaniel Hackett. Where’s the offensive quality control?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Geez Marshawn did great today when they actually gave him the ball
Why are they doing this?? I can’t see Marshwan being happy with this situation
Plenty of blame to go around.
Failure to challenge was really a bonehead move. Bellicheat would have hit the Ref in the face with the flag if he wanted the play challenged. Shows lack of decisiveness evident in the gameplan.
Or, it might show that the Bills’ replay folks were late getting the word to Jauron. As I said before – it’s easy to blame Jauron, but it might not have been his fault. It’s not like he blatantly refused to challenge it.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Our review guys to blame
DJ chucked the flag late because of them, and the Refs never even saw it, of course, the way around that it to grab an official as they run by and make the wait till you throw it. We would probably win the challenge and then get flagged 15 for doing it.
This mess is on the O coaches and the players excepting Roscoe and ML, they played well today
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Who's in charge?
It was an obvious incomplete pass. They showed the replay four or five times. In fact I was so upset they weren’t throwing the flag that I had time to jump off the couch, pace into the other room and back again before they ran the next play.
I’m tired of excuses for stupid decisions!
I’m not making an excuse, D.O. I’m saying that, in reality, we really don’t know what happened, but it’s easy to blame Jauron.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Me too… ?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
It is definetely the people up stairs. Jauron definetely wouldnt get the go ahead to toss the flag and just twiddle his thumbs while the Pats hustled to do the next play.
He threw the flag
It just wasn’t seen by the official…as it has been pointed out before, Belichik would never have allowed this type of thing to happen…he would have tackled the official if he had to.
Jauron had no problem throwing a challenge flag for a pretty obvious Laverneus Coles catch last week…..Why didn’t that happen here then???
~K
I’m not saying either happened. Just that we don’t know what happened.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care what happened
what happened is that an obvious incomplete pass was allowed because we didn’t challenge. Jauron is the guy holding the flag and he needs to make sure it is thrown and the official is aware. Period…no excuses…no explanations… it just needs to happen.
Blame the front office, CAUSE IT ALL STARTS WITH LEADERSHIP AND WE DON’T HAVE ANY. ARchy used to say dead from the neck up!!
I’ll respectfully disagree. I think we have leadership. Our team just isn’t very good.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
This is year 3 though, and we really don’t have great talent. Jauron and co. have brought in a lot of okay players, but no stars yet. And there have been a TON of mistakes by the front office since his crew came in….
~K
But we have a base. We didn’t even have that when he came in. All we need is one star – hopefully at DE – and to fortify out trenches, and we’ll be fine.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe, and I hope so
but we get beat up week in, week out by more physical teams. 2 players isn’t going to change that. We need help at many positions, at least an upgrade. Plus, we need 2 DE’s….
~K
And we’re still moving in the right direction?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
By the way, if you click “Reply” on a certain comment, it threads it so it’s much easier to follow your conversation.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree. I just don’t think it’s manifested yet. This team is still young…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t see great talent anywhere really. Maybe the young WR’s will develop into very good players, but we’re bad on the OL again, the DL is pathetic, the LB’s are above average, the secondary has some young players, but I see no stars there. Good teams find potential stars and cultivate them, we seem to find character guys who are solid players, but nothing more.
~K
Like I said – a base. We need a “star” or two, you’re right, but there are a lot of good players on this team.
Also, the DL isn’t pathetic – just the ends. Our tackles are very good.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
LOL sounds good. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Well that was a fun way to waste several hours of my life
I’ll catch you all up later in the post game thread
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I still say Schonert.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
It’s laughable to think we are heading in the right direction. We get worse every game and our last draft looks like it will be a dud to say the least.
I think we were worse against the Jets, actually.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
And McKelvin played well today. Drafts need time… sure, it looks like it’ll be a dud, but that really means nothing.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
The o-line wasn’t good but Edwards is worse. 14-23 for 120 yards? Those are the types of numbers that had people calling for JP’s blood. TE can’t play in perfect conditions. Wait till the weather gets bad and then the real fun will begin.
bflobob is right
If J.P. played this game we would be talking about how bad he is and nothing else. I’m still on the Trent Edwards bandwagon but he needs to be held accountable too.
D.O.
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Trent is playing quite awful. If JP wasn’t the backup, I’m sure there’d be calls for Trent’s head.
If he doesn’t improve much, this team is going nowhere, now and in the future. He has to learn consistency and how to put points on the board against good teams. I’m nervous that he’s a guy who can play well against bad teams (like the rest of the Bills), but look like garbage against good teams…..
~K
Yeah, I still don’t think it’s time to panic on Edwards. Of course, I took a lot of crap for defending Losman for so long, so I wouldn’t be shocked to have to defend Edwards, either…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I agree Brian
I still will defend both of them
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Edwards is a one trick pony and that trick is the short pass to the guy that is standing still. He NEVER leads his reciever. I haven’t seen the #s but I can all but guarantee that we are dead last in the league in YAC. At least JP’s one trick, the deep ball, was exciting. TE had a horrific 5.2 yards per attempt today.
Yes, we all agree he’s played poorly. But I think we can still attribute a lot of his problems to play-calling, just as we could with Losman. He’s not the only guy at fault, believe me.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
More bad news for some of us….SU basketball beats a D2 team by 10…..Yikes, gotta be better than that guys!
~K
We need Nunes to be live on SBN, like, RIGHT NOW.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
i
can’t take it anymore. Just got back from watching the game. As Brian poined out 2 weeks ago.
Shotgun – we pass
under center – we run
That is ludicrous. It’s so vanilla. its so easy to defend against. Never one play action today???? There are serious internal issues of coaching and schemes. No one is on the same page offensively. This is not good. It would be one thing if I thought we were out-talented, but I don’t see that.
And if Dick Jauron thinks on 3rd and 8 he can rush 4, and allow them to throw over the middle one more time I might puke
MARVelous
I wish Brian had media credentials so he could go to OBD and ask Jauron and Schonert why it’s so easy to predict what they’ll run. Why do they pass out of the shotgun every time and run under center? Someone has to call them out. Jerry Sullivan, make yourself useful.
~K
Some day…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
it is insane
what happened to the 2 back shotgun, and being dare I say “unpredictable?” Bottom line, is we don’t run it enough. This cast of characters cannot sit in shotgun and dink and dime. We don’t have that capability yet. RUN THE BALL>>>>RUN THE BALL.>>>>RUN THE BALL
The play calling is killing me. I just wanna be held at this point….And to wait 8 days for our next game is going to kill me
MARVelous
Why not? At least they’re there. I’m not as excited about Hardy’s garbage time TD, but McKelvin looked good on returns all day. He looks more comfortable back there each week…
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 9, 2008 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
I was most impressed with Corner today. He tackles well and can cover.
Hardy is nothing more than a jump ball guy and we don’t use him well. McKelvin seems like a KR guy and nothing more. Sure that’s great he is getting better at Kick Off’s but we didn’t draft him for that. We drafted him to defend. He does nothing more than McGee could do…and you could argue McGee could do much more
MARVelous
But unlike McGee at this point, McKelvin has potential.
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