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Hello Toronto Bills fans,

(That just sounds too weird)

Many of you probably know me from our "Around the AFC East" segment that we did before the season.  For those that don't, I'm the guy who runs the Miami Dolphins blog on SB Nation - The Phinsider.

As we prepare for Dolphins/Bills - Round 2 - I wanted to come over here and see if any of you had any Dolphin-related questions for me.

So shoot me some topics and I'll check in from time to time and answer them best I can.

This FanPost written by a registered user of Buffalo Rumblings.

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LOL. Translating Matty’s Monday FanPost: “Man, are we ever eager to kick the living poop out of your team again.” :)

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 1, 2008 4:14 PM EST   0 recs

No way!

I’ve learned never to underestimate an opponent. Fact is the Dolphins have beaten the Seahawks, Raiders, and Rams by a combined total of 8 points. And I’d be lying if I didn’t proclaim openly that I’m very nervous about this game. The Bills will be angry after their loss on Sunday and are essentially playing for their playoff lives. A loss would probably put an end to any playoff thoughts for the Bills – and that has me scared.

Nothing worse than playing against a desperate team.

by Matty I on Dec 1, 2008 4:32 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

They’ve been “despearate” for the last three weeks. I wouldn’t worry about them suddenly turning it on.

by thatguy34 on Dec 2, 2008 3:09 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Exactly

Losing at home against the Browns and 49ers when your back is up against the wall pretty much shows what kind of desperation this team is playing with….

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 2, 2008 3:18 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I guess I'm just jaded

I continue to expect the worst – and that includes a loss on Sunday.

by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 4:08 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

lol

If they don’t, then somebody within the organization deserves to be fired.

All I need is to hear that Ronnie Brown can’t make the game because he never got a passport.

by Matty I on Dec 1, 2008 4:33 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Oh, my GOD, that would be awesome.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 1, 2008 4:34 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

By the way, folks, give this a good ol’ Rec.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 1, 2008 4:36 PM EST   0 recs

Right above the red bar that says “Comments”, you’ll actually see the word “Rec”. Give ’er a click, and this FanPost will be recommended.

Rec’ing posts is something that we should be doing more of. There are a lot of quality FanPosts that get buried after a couple of days that really shouldn’t. Rec away, people!

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 1, 2008 4:48 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Done deal.

Thanks, Brian. You’re the cats knees. Wait, that’s not right.

by jj24 on Dec 1, 2008 4:50 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Weird. I’ve always considered you the bees’ pajamas.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 1, 2008 4:55 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

With the little stinger flap in back? : )

by jj24 on Dec 1, 2008 4:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

WTF?

GO BLUE!!!

by Kumario! on Dec 2, 2008 12:54 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Matty,

What’s the injury status of your guys? I read that a very happy player on your team just broke his leg. Is there any other injury concerns you have right now?

by jj24 on Dec 1, 2008 4:54 PM EST   0 recs

haha

a “very happy player” – that’s classic.

Yes – Justin Smiley is done for the year, which hurts big time. Greg Camarillo, our leading receiver, suffered a season-ending knee injury against the Pats two games ago. But other than that, I don’t have any concerns. Ricky Williams left the game after tweaking an ankle on Sunday – but later returned.

Jason Allen, who has been our nickelback the past few weeks, missed yesterday’s game with a “hand/wrist” injury – forcing Joey Thomas into the nickel role. The result? Two pass interference penalties on St. Louis’ first drive to help get them in position for a FG. He also allowed at least 2 3rd down conversion completions. So Jason Allen’s health will be something to monitor this week.

by Matty I on Dec 1, 2008 5:01 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Thank you.

We’ve been dinged up in the secondary, too. That’s where we’ve been getting beat on defense. Not with the effiiciency that Chad Pencilington demonstrated against us earlier this year, but still pretty bad. It we don’t pull out a miracle division-winning run, I hope you guys get it. Good luck, bro.

by jj24 on Dec 1, 2008 5:07 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

i could

never root for the phins….I am amazed at your guys turnaround and I’m sure Brian has more in store later this week comparing our two franchises (at least I hope) cuz seeing your turn around is pretty amazing. The complete cleaning house, the amazing player acquisitions, draft, all of it. Most importantly though has been you picking up Pennington undoubtedly IMO. Without him, you guys maybe have 4-5 wins and not 7 for sure. Do you see Pennington as a long term solution?

Also, what can you say to us Bills fans muddering in mediocrity under the Jauron regime? From an outside divisional perspective any thoughts? I mean you guys suffered thru Saban and Cameron, and then boom you get a savior in Parcells….man I’m jealous

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 1, 2008 6:55 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

RE:

First, about Pennington, he absolutely has been the key to this team’s success. As far as a long-term solution, I think CP can handle the starting job for another year or two. But at some point, it will be time for Chad Henne.

Secondly, I’m not sure what to say. As an outsider, I really thought Jauron had this team headed in the right direction. But I think the regression of Trent Edwards is worrisome. I was never really sold on him – just like I was never sold on Losman. But I think the Bills are one good veteran QB (like CP) away from breaking out.

by Matty I on Dec 1, 2008 9:33 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

John Beck could be available

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit :)

Congrats on the turn around. Sparano & Parcells have definitely given your team a new attitude this year. It has been the diffferece between losing all of those close games last year to where you guys are at now. I love Tony’s and Bill’s roughneck attitude, and it appears to be paying dividends for you guys so far.

How do you see your squads’ outlook for the next 3 years?

by MonStarr_716 on Dec 2, 2008 4:35 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Wow

Hating on Beck from the Toronto crowd. That hurts. Poor kid. All he did was try to win football games on a bad team.

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.

by Mosul_DolFan on Dec 2, 2008 7:56 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Lol....

There was some praise in my post.

All he did was try to win football games on a bad team.

Although I am a firm believer in the “you are who your record says you are” You guys were played a lot better than a 1-15 team, but you gotta admit, the kid looked pretty bad last year..

by MonStarr_716 on Dec 2, 2008 8:08 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

He did

Won’t lie for him.

I’m just afraid that we will ship him off and not see what he can be. Obviously he was selected in the 2nd round for a reason (even if CamCam did it), and no one was really surprised by that pick (especially when compared to the Ginn pick in the first round), so he can’t be all that bad.

Hopefully we will give him another year or so and see what he can be. Then, if there’s not anything worth holding on to, then we get rid of him.

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.

by Mosul_DolFan on Dec 2, 2008 8:16 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Next 3 years:

Probably a step back in 2009 – record wise. That’s generally what happens. Then I think 2010 is when things really get rolling with a serious playoff push.

But a lot depends on how this team handles the QB situation. If Pennington stays healthy, do they have him start next year? Do they have him start for the next 2 years (would have to give him an extension, as he only signed a 2 year deal). Or do they give the reigns to Henne sooner rather than later?

Interesting storyline to unfold at some point.

by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 2:01 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

If Pennington stays healthy, do they have him start next year?

Absolutely, how could they not?

Two years down the road is where things get interesting. So much of the Dolphins future is in Chad Henne’s hands. The Dolphins could become a perenial super bowl contender if he is the real deal, or they could go into a parcells is gone and our QB is a bust tailspin and complete rebuild mode in 3 years too.

by kaisertown on Dec 2, 2008 2:10 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Good one Matty

"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24

by rangerjae on Dec 3, 2008 7:21 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

As Buffalo spends year after year in mediocrity there are a lot of fans that have used Miami as an example of how quickly you can turn things around. I’ve pointed out that Miami lost 7 games last year by three points despite having some of the worst QB play that I have ever witnessed. I’ve argued that the step up from Beck and Lemon to Pennington has led to most of your success. So …..

Is Miami’s resurgence mostly due to Pennington? How much credit should Parcell’s other personel moves get (Ferguson, Fasano, Smiley, Ayodele, Starks, Long, Merling)? Has the ingame coaching, playcalling etc… been better than last year?

Basically, is Miami really that much better than last year, or were they just an average team with terrible QBs, that added a couple nice pieces and a good QB and emerged into an above average team with an above average QB?

by kaisertown on Dec 1, 2008 5:37 PM EST   0 recs

Good question

No doubt, Pennington has been the most important key to Miami’s turnaround.

But there are a lot of other reasons. Jason Ferguson’s acquisition was key because, to run a 3-4, you need that big NT. Justin Smiley, who is done for the year now, was a big factor in Jake Long’s development because they played next to each other. Randy Starks, Phillip Merling, and Kendall Langford were big acquisitions that helped improve Miami’s DL.

But one of the other keys has been the RB play. Last year, Ronnie Brown only played in 7 games and Ricky Williams only got in for like 2 or 3 plays. So having those 2 back and healthy makes a big difference.

But I agree with you that the Dolphins shouldn’t have been as bad as they were last year. But with that said, only about 20 players from last year’s team remain. So the moves that Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland orchestrated have been brilliant – with the exception of Ernest Wilford – and those two deserve a lot of credit.

Oh – and having a capable head coach also helps.

by Matty I on Dec 1, 2008 9:38 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

The turnaround

How do you guys feel about the decent record/playoff hopes/beating the Pats (thank you)/solid season so far? (BTW, that is intended to set up a single focused question.)

Do you see this as any sort of fluke-ish-ness? Like, maybe teams underestimated the Fins for a while? Or is this for real, built for the long haul, quality? I don’t like to speak for other people, but I seem to remember Brian saying he was impressed with the ‘right-pieces-in-the-right-places’ aspect of Miami. Because I am so frustrated with Buffalo’s inability to move up the in the rankings, it hurts to agree, but I do. It seems as though Parcells has it in for the Bills.

That said, I would prefer if the Fins-Bills rivalry took top notice in the division, and the Pats faded into thin air.

Sweet home Orchard Park.

by thurman on Dec 1, 2008 5:37 PM EST   0 recs

RE:

Yeah – I think we’d all agree that the Jets and Bills fading into oblivion would be a good thing. They are definitely my 2 most hated rivals. Your Bills are third – but I wouldn’t say it’s a close third.

Back to your question. I think a lot of the team’s success is for real. Again, I know I’ve said it like 2 or 3 times already, but Chad Pennington has been a savior for this team. So much so, in fact, that I’m going to be purchasing a big ol’ CP jersey – even if he’s only starting for 1 more season before Henne takes over. He’s been 1 million times better than I thought. I’ll admit it – I was dead wrong about him. I originally didn’t want the Fins to sign him. And now he’s like one of my 2 or 3 favorite players.

With that said, I do think the schedule has played a small part in Miami’s success. They lucked out and got to play the two worst divisions in football – the AFC West and NFC West (as every other AFC East team did). So far, against those 2 divisions, the Fins are 5-1. But next year, our AFC East teams play the AFC South and NFC South – a much tougher task. So it’s probable that they could take a step back, record-wise, in 2009. But that doesn’t make their success this year a fluke.

by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 1:35 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Did you guys play the 3-4 last year? I really don’t remember. I’m hoping you didn’t because many of would like to see the Bills move towards that type of D and it’d be nice to know if the transformation could be done in one offseason….

Will Ted Ginn have another career day this week? How bad has he been since the last matchup?

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 1, 2008 7:56 PM EST   0 recs

RE:

The Dolphins originally intended to run a 3-4 defense – with Jason Taylor and Joey Porter as OLBs. But injuries really prevented them from playing a true 3-4 defense. In fact, they were in a 4-3 more times than not – which is partly why Joey Porter had such a down year. So I won’t say the transformation was totally done in one offseason, but some of the key pieces were found this past offseason (Jason Ferguson, Phillip Merling, Kendall Langford). Since you guys have a potential NT already with Stroud, I’d say it can be done.

As for Ginn, he’s actually been quite good since the first meeting between these 2 teams. He’s averaged 4 catches for 60 yards in 5 games since his big breakout game against the Bills (but only 1 receiving TD). But he has also scored a 40 yard TD on a reverse.

But I’d keep the name Davone Bess in mind this week. He’s going to be the receiver that surprises you guys.

by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 1:43 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I have Bess in my fantasy league and watched Hawaii last year, I know plenty about how good of an underneath receiver he can be…Nice find on him.

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 2, 2008 12:17 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Trent Edwards really is Tom Brady like!!!

injured.

dont make me pull back up ur smack talk Bills fans…u tryed to sell me a Trent Edwards poo flavored popscile on a winter day.

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---BILL PARCELLS

by Rzayo24 on Dec 1, 2008 10:26 PM EST   0 recs

did the first part of the year scare you then?

PIPE DREAM: Jim Harbaugh for the Bills next head coach.

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 1, 2008 10:56 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

ginn

no kidding…that guy is a complete bust but of course McGee had to play 20 yards off of him….

And, how cheeched out do you think Ricky Williams will be when he meets up with his old Toronto Argonauts? Or will he bring his yoga mat?

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 1, 2008 11:02 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Rzayo is right.

First, Bills fans tried to sell me on Losman. I didn’t buy.

Then earlier this year, you all tried to convince everyone that Edwards was the next “big thing.” Still didn’t buy.

But I’m just as guilty. I actually thought John Beck would be a star.

by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 1:28 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Edwards

will be fine and will be a good QB in this league. He had a concussion, an idiot play caller refusing to run the ball with one of the best RB’s in the NFL and the biggest OL in the NFL to take the load of our young signal caller. He has all the tools to be a decade long starter in the NFL.

I would say I’d rather have our guy, then have a stop gap in Pennington like Parcells has done his last few years with the Brad Johnson’s and Testaverde’s of the world. Sure they are good game managers but you can never go anywhere with them. Trent isn’t this all world QB he was made out to be in the beginning of the season, but with him, lynch, evans, Jason-Peters back to pro bowl form, our offense has all the parts to be good down the road if we ever find an offensive coach

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 2, 2008 10:38 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Pennington isn't necessarily a stop-gap...

…but even if he is, Chad Henne is waiting in the wings. And having the opportunity to learn behind CP is only going to benefit him even more.

by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 2:03 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

CP10

everyday he is QB Henne’s chances of being good increase. Aaron Rodgers looked like crap when he would mop up for Favre…then all the sudden he is a good qb after years of sitting. sitting is the way to go to me. Regardless…Henne would have to play damn well for him to make me call for CP10’s release

"This is one of the most competitive businesses there is . . . It's my life. It's my blood. It's how I'm measured."
---BILL PARCELLS

by Rzayo24 on Dec 2, 2008 2:06 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

DON'T SAY SUCH HORRIBLE THINGS!

Release CP10…that’s horrible. I hope you pray to Dan Marino tonight and ask for his forgiveness.

Anyway, this can be CP10’s team for as long as he wants the ball.

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.

by Mosul_DolFan on Dec 2, 2008 4:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I agree

Henne can wait just as Aaron Rodgers did. Worked out well for him, didn’t it?

by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 4:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Yes

Henne needs to learn the game on a professional level

I

"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24

by rangerjae on Dec 3, 2008 7:24 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Wait a minute.

So you didn’t buy the hated opposition’s young QB’s, but you were more than wiling to accept your own as a future star???

Well you sound like every fan in the league!!! haha

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 2, 2008 12:18 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!

Matty isn’t at all like every other fan in the league. He’s more. He’s better. He awesomer. He’s not in Toronto. He’s MATTY!

I blacked out. What happened?

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.

by Mosul_DolFan on Dec 2, 2008 12:30 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Alll I have to say is...

how is that Trent Edwards thing working out for ya?

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---BILL PARCELLS

by Rzayo24 on Dec 2, 2008 1:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

This is a pretty vicious circle. How’s John Beck? Oh, snap, how’s Trent Edwards?! Have you heard from John Beck lately?

Let’s just leave Pennington out of it and call everything mediocre.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 2, 2008 2:06 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

We have to at least bring up Chd Henne, though.

Poor guy is the QB of the future and doesn’t even get a mention in a flame-war?

by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 2:07 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Do you guys have any material other than Trent Edwards and Toronto?

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 2, 2008 2:23 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Well....

….we could always bust out the “wide right” jokes. But those are old, I guess.

by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 4:10 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

LOL how old? Three weeks? We were wide right against Cleveland…

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 2, 2008 4:12 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

At least it was left this past week

That’s a change for you

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.

by Mosul_DolFan on Dec 2, 2008 4:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

You have to admit...

The Toronto thing is funny. Of all the games to move, this one was probably not a good choice. Probably figured you could beat up on us in Toronto, build the fan base, and not lose a home game against a good team. Then, we became a good team, and you are in a dog fight for the Division.

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.

by Mosul_DolFan on Dec 2, 2008 4:56 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

No, actually, I don’t have to admit anything. There’s nothing funny about the Bills playing in Toronto to me. You can laugh all you want (as you have). But don’t ask me to join you. And while your logic makes sense, the Bills get to pick who they placed in Toronto. The NFL picks it.

by thatguy34 on Dec 2, 2008 4:59 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

didn’t get to pick*

by thatguy34 on Dec 2, 2008 4:59 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

The NFL didn't pick that Bulffalo would play in Toronto

That was a Buffalo decision, and they requested permission from the league to do it.

All Buffalo on that one.

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.

by Mosul_DolFan on Dec 2, 2008 5:01 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

they requested to play football in a REAL american city....

SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPP

ehh…i will say thanks for buffalo wings i guess

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---BILL PARCELLS

by Rzayo24 on Dec 2, 2008 5:20 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

A real American city? Are you implying that Buffalo isn’t a real American city? Isn’t Miami like 20% illegal aliens? How many people in Miami can’t even speak English? Miami looks more like a wealthy version of Cuba than it does our beloved United States of America.

by kaisertown on Dec 2, 2008 5:37 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Those illegal aliens can sure cook though

"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24

by rangerjae on Dec 3, 2008 7:27 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Man some of you Phinsider guys really struggle with reading comprehension. thatguy34 said that Buffalo didn’t pick WHICH TEAM we were going to play in Toronto.

by kaisertown on Dec 2, 2008 5:34 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Buffalo isn't a real American city

Its a real Canadian American city

"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24

by rangerjae on Dec 3, 2008 7:26 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I would have liked to see LAST week’s Niners game in SF.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 2, 2008 6:31 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

lol toronto bills

gets me every time :)

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by DolfinPhan on Dec 2, 2008 10:12 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Toronto Bison is even funnier

"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24

by rangerjae on Dec 3, 2008 7:26 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

By the way,,,

this game also makes me nervous…..the phins havent ever played this Toronto team….no game film to study

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---BILL PARCELLS

by Rzayo24 on Dec 1, 2008 10:27 PM EST   0 recs