I hate when the off season starts before Xmas.

I just put up a post and thought it was dang long. Now I see this one! I put some things in my post that may persuade any other fence sitters about Jauron, haha.

Let me finish reading this post now and provide my comments….btw, I’ve rec’ed it already…

What would Lee Evans fetch in a trade?

I think the better question is, do you want to trade Lee Evans?

Good post Kry. I rec’d it too.

As for Lynch, I’ll say this. I actually do like him as a player. Is he all-world? Probably not. But he is good, plays hard, gets more yardage than he ought to given his miserable OL, and has a great stiff-arm.

However, there’s one part about him I don’t agree with most Bills’ fans on. People seem to really like his personality. I think he comes off as a doofus. Does that matter much at RB? I’m not sure.

Regarding Jauron, I don’t think I have heard anyone suggest Jauron would move to the front office. I am not sure Ralf would just add him to the big 3 we currently have. Would someone else get the axe? I doubt it. Remember Juaron was Levy’s pick, and Levy is gone.

first off great post! Do you think Jauron would be willing to accept another position other than HC? Also where would he fit in the best, in the front office or as like a DB coach?

Why even dress #94 now? As much as I’m not crazy about him, his absence really did hurt the pass rush this year. Out of curiosity, what do you think the trade value is for him? I’d guess a second? Would it be smart to move him and his contract?…Could Kelsay and Denney be fighting for their Buffalo lives? What do you think could be fetched for either of them? Before you guess something really low, think how bad the depth is on many other teams.

I kind of like this train of thought. I am very opposed to the idea some have stated about blowing this team up because I think it is building and has been building in a very fine fashion. I also like that the players love their coach and so I am opposed to firing Dick but I do want to cut off Turk now.

That said, I’m not saying I’m sold yet but it is worth discussion, perhaps we should blow up the defensive end position. This is a long time coming and the only reservation I’ve ever had is that I do, unlike most here apparently, really like Schobel.

Fact is, Aaron is past his prime and is probably at the last year of any serious trade value before he becomes an “old man” by football years. Like you said kry, I think a 2nd rounder may be a possibility for him, especially because he was out this year without a tear, and is one year removed from a string of, in order, seasons with 6.5, 8.5, 11.5, 8.0, 12.0, 14.0 and 6.5 sack years. I mean, honestly, that is very very good. Kelsay could probably real in a 3rd or 4th because of his value as a seasoned starter though probably a 4th because of his massive contract, and Denney, well whatever with him maybe keep him as depth or let him go or whatever.

If we could bring a 2nd and 4th in the coming draft and send off Kelsay and Schobel’s contracts (which are how many years left now, anybody know?) we then have the opportunity to trade back into the first round AND bring in a great free agent.

What does this potentially mean? A stud DE with our first 1st rounder and Alex Mack with our second 1st rounder and a free agent DE with our new found cap space.

Don’t know how realistic this can be, and I don’t know if I want to get rid of Schobel, but I think it could be worth talking about?

Too much. Are you Kidding me? I would trade Lee and a second round pick for Boldin in 2.5 seconds. No questions asked. Lee doesn’t get good leverage on other cornerbacks, he often gets double covered and as a result gets lost and is never open. When was the last time you saw Trent throw a 5 yard slant to Evans? Never. Why you ask?? Evans can’t get position because he is too small and he might lose his head because today’s linebackers are huge. Lee is a good receiver but he isn’t a number 1 and he sure doesn’t play like it either. Unfortunately the Bills pay him like he is > trade him for Boldin > great value!

Lynch is NOT overrated. If I was EVER told that by anyone I would laugh in their face. If you have ever played football you know that an offensive line is often centered around the CENTER. HA HA. Seriously. The center makes all the line calls and he is the LEADER of the offensive line. Kent Hull retired like what 12 or 13 years ago??? Since then the O-line has never EVER had a leader at center. When your offensive line doesn’t have a leader, there isn’t much passion being envoked into the players there and it isn’t easy to run behind that. LYNCH is the BEST PLAYER ON THE BILLS BY FAR. He has great talents and a great attitude when out on the field.

EVERY WEEKEND I WISH THE REST OF THE BILLS WOULD PLAY LIKE LYNCH

If the Bills dont go out and get a veteran FA or trade for a veteran TE, C or WR, the offense will be no better next year. Simply put, we BETTER draft a DE or OLB to rush the passer and we need to make a FA move or a trade to try and bolster our offense. It is much easier for a rookie defensive player to make a bigger impact than an offensive player.

I really do not like Robert Royal and I hope that the Bills axe him ASAP. Same goes for Melvin Fowler as well. KICK THE TRASH TO THE CURB!!!

Keep Youboty as he shows good potential.

a lot of good stuff in there krytime. I agree with a log of what you said. Here’s a few things that stuck out:

1. Dick Jauron. I don’t think it’s any secret that I do not like him as a head coach. I never have and I never will. I hope to God he gets fired. That said, he does garner the respect of the payers. I also don’t think he would be a bad front office guy. Although, I don’t see how that would work with Buffalo’s current structure and I don’t know if Dick would want to take such a position.

2. Schobel/Kelsey: Bottom line is that Buffalo vastly overpaid for both players. Schobel is still a value when healthy, Kelsey has never been of value. I hope they suck up the guarantee money and just cut their losses. Maybe they can try some dumb team to trade for him, but I doubt it. I’m looking DE in round 1 of the draft this year.

3. Linebackers: I think this is one of the hardest groups to analyze. Mitchell has been so up and down, but as frusturating as that has been, at least he has made big time plays. Poz has been consistently consistent (yeah, you read that right), but the big play has been non-existant. I’m a PSU guy and a HUGE Poz guy. I’ve watched him make dozens of big plays in his college career. I don’t know if the lack of game-changing plays is a result of talent or the defensive system. In the Fewell version of the cover-2, the MLB is asked to drop off into coverage a lot, protecting the deep middle of the field. Very rarely does Poz get to bltiz or prowl the line-of-scrimmiage without having to worry about a large chunk of the pass zone as well. I would love to see him play in a non-cover 2 defense, whether it be the 4-3 or 3-4 that he played in college. Becuase of that, I just don’t know what to think about him. As for Ellison, he has to go. He’s just too much of a liability in the run game and offers no help in the pass game. I hope they can find a SLB to replace him this off-season, whether it’s in free agency or the draft.

I havn’t read comments yet, so I don’t know what has already been said in response. I hope it isn’t too late to jump into the conversation. Anyways, here is my standard super long response:

Does Omon have any game? Would it really hurt much to find out?

I doubt it would hurt, but would it help? He is entrenched as our number three and we certainly won’t keep 4 runningbacks next season. The team has all of training camp and the preseason to find out what they have in Omon. And don’t forget that he has been practicing with the team for 8+ months now. Just because we don’t know what the Bills have in Omon doesn’t mean that they don’t.

Similiar response about Bell playing. What is the need for throwing a 7th round offensive tackle who isn’t even the primary backup and probably shouldn’t be next year either into a game? Kurupt mentions that it wouldn’t hurt to throw him in for a couple series, but what kind of feel are you going to get from him from watching 10-15 plays? We should just wait until preseason next year to worry about these kinds of playes.

Reggie Corner has been seeing some playing time in nickel and dime situations because of injuries. Even if Greer is let go, Corner still comes back as the 4th corner, so there is no need for him to play anymore than he is now.

What did Corey Mace do last week?

Who cares, he should be considered a long shot to make the roster next year and if he does it will be as a 5th DT type of depth player who will spend most of the year inactive anyways.

Steve Johnson and Derek Fine will probably be counted on to contribute a lot next year, so they definitely need the PT.

Why bother with Losman anymore?

It’s a week late, but apparently the team agrees with you.

what do you think the trade value is for him?

I don’t think you can get a second round pick for somebody in their thirties unless they are Jason Taylor. All those DTs only got a third and fifth in return, why would we assume that Schobel can get that? I woudn’t move him now anyways. His salary is still reasonable for next year, so lets see how he plays next season and decide on his future later.

Where does Youboty fit?

If Greer doesn’t come back, I would like to see him start instead of McKelvin. I think Leodis’ 2 pick game against KC is getting overblown. I thought he got picked on a little against Miami and San Fran and didn’t play great against the Jets either. He is only 1 year older than McKelvin too. Either way its going to come down to a training camp battle.

Is that Detroit cast off Lehman worth watching?

No.

Does Bryan Scott have the most to gain/lose over the next few weeks?

No again, he is firmly entrenched as the team’s starting strong safety.

Could Kelsay and Denney be fighting for their Buffalo lives?

They have to be. One of those two or Ellis probably isn’t going to make this team next year and my money is on Ellis being safe. They have no trade value. Last year, Dallas traded Jason Ferguson just to move up 25 spots in the 7th round. You couldn’t get more than a 6th rounder and that even seems optimistic. If you could get trade value for those kinds of players, wouldn’t their be more than 10 trades involving players every year?

Robert Royal has played his last game as a Bill, correct?

I don’t think so. Why does everyone think he is better than Schouman again. It’s like when prospects from big time schools get criticized while the little shcool guys get hyped. People are too critical of guys like Royal, who isn’t good, but isn’t terrible. he is a rosterable guy and would make a for a solid backup to Fine next year (a better backup than can’t block Schouman), while a mid round rookie figures the NFL out.

Is there a coincidence between the decline of Moorman and Ryan Neil’s arrival at the long snapping spot?

No. He’s a long snapper. Statistically, this has been one of Moorman’s best seasons ever. I think people overreacted to a couple of great seasons from Moorman. He is an above average punter or better.

What happens to McCargo from here?

He comes back to camp next year and tries to earn that 4th DT spot. If he shows up healthy and in shape then he could be a factor next season. if he shows up fat, then he probably gets cut.

7 picks in the draft next year

Isn’t 7 picks pretty standard before comp selections?

What would Lee Evans fetch in a trade?

A lot, but not enough to make it worth trading him. Logistically it is really tough to trade a player immediately after he signs such a big contract too. The cap hit would be pretty steep.

but there is no way any of you can make the argument now that Crowell, Losman, or even McCargo should not have been traded when they had some value.

We’ve been over the Crowell thing before. At what did was he not the starter for a team that thought it could make a run at a wildcard spot AND had had trade value? He could’ve been traded before the season, but he was the starter. He couldn’t have been traded after he decided to have surgery because nobody would have wanted him.

The Bills DID trade McCargo. You can’t blame the team for McCargo’s bad back.

In hindsight, you can say that we should have traded Losman, but only because he stunk so much this year. If he had played anywhere near as good as he did in 06 when Trent went down this year, the Bills might still be in the playoff hunt and that would be far more valuable than the 5th round pick or whatever we could have gotten for him.

And here’s one I will get killed on, for sure. #23 is overrated.

Then we will have to agree to disagree. I think he is a Marian Barber clone running behind a bad line. You can’t hit the holes when there aren’t any.

Fantastic word, if it is a word. I don’t care if it’s not; I am going to use it going forward.