Open Thread: Is Trent Edwards still "the guy"?
by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 8:07 AM EST
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We haven't had a mid-week open thread in quite some time; today's as good a day as any to end that trend. My question to you this morning, Buffalo Bills fans and Buffalo Rumblings faithful, is this: do you still consider QB Trent Edwards to be "the guy" to lead us into a hopefully bright future of Bills football?
Seven weeks ago, if I had posed this question, it would have been the most boring and anti-climactic open thread in the history of open threads. At that time, the Bills were 5-1, Edwards was the fourth-ranked passer in the league, and quite frankly, we were drooling over the kid's potential. Since that time, the Bills are 1-6, Edwards has struggled mightily and been injured, and well, nothing seems to be certain with this franchise anymore.
With the coaching situation up in the air - Dick Jauron is clearly on the hot seat, at least in the court of public opinion, anyway - and Edwards struggling, it's anything but certain that the second-year signal caller will be Buffalo's starter in 2009. The Bills are 11-10 in the 21 games Edwards has started in his brief career, but as we know, there are many more reasons the Bills have struggled besides Edwards. In fact, for a second-year quarterback that was a third-round pick out of Stanford, his numbers a largely excellent, especially in the areas of completion percentage and yards per attempt.
So this is your spot to sound off on our kid quarterback. Is he the guy to lead us into the future? You be the judge.
My take? I'm behind the kid 100%. Yeah, he's struggled, but he's also been very good at times, too. You take the good with the bad when your quarterback is as young as Edwards is, and there's been more than enough good out of Edwards for me to believe that he should be this team's starter next season - new coach or not. The most telling stat to me? Edwards has dropped back to pass 344 times this year and been sacked 20 times. That means that he's gotten the ball out on 94.2% of his throws. Meanwhile, J.P. Losman has dropped back 77 times and gotten the ball off 65 times - the ball's out 84.4% of the time with Losman. I know I'm comparing Edwards to our favorite whipping boy here, but that's a very telling statistic.
So yes. I'm steadfastly behind Edwards. Are you?
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He is the future – The 2009 NFL MVP and Super Bowl MVP TREEEEENNNNNNNNNT EDWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OOOOOOHHHHHHHH YEEEAAAAAAHHH
o.k. maybe that was over the top. But the kid has what it takes and if he can get a good center and some help in the passing game (WR #2, TE) he’s going to be a good one for years to come
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Losman needs to leave the team at the end of the season, I think besides his arm he one of the worst quarterback I have ever seen in football. it seems he goes for the moral wins within the game itself. if he throws one big bomb hes happy, its like he’s in middle school emotionally, he’s now somewhat past the pouting over bad plays era, and on to the ignoring that anything bad has happened era! he doesn’t lead the team and almost always screws up in the red zone, his red zone percentages have got to be some of the worst in NFL history. And with these guys paychecks, all Losman has to say is we need to just go out there and have some fun. I don’t want to see Losman’s version of fun and I don’t think anyone else in America wants to pay for tickets to see Losmans version of fun.
I have confidence that like Favre, Edwards can get it in the end zone, even if he throws a few ints., you still have hope that they can win, because Edwards has shown he can lead the team down the field and score. I’ve seen Losman go down the field for years now and screw up in the red zone, its getting to the point I can’t watch, for goodness sake the season has basically ended, see what the third string quarterback can do, everyone in the NFL knows Losman hasn’t got it. Are his parents rich or something, paying off the Bills executives, I mean seriously how is he still even the 2nd stringer.
I agree Trent definitely needs #2 or 3 wide receivers and a tight end who can catch more than 1/2 passes. And James Hardy, come on, he doesn’t know how to get open in the NFL, nor is his catching doing well either, trade him pleeeaaase.
Losman is leaving the team at the end of the season, because he’s an unrestricted free agent.
And no, we’re not going to trade James Hardy, because since he “doesn’t know how to get open int he NFL”, he’ll need to be coached to do so. Here. The kid’s got talent. You don’t trade talent because of a bad rookie season.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 13, 2008 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
He get 1 more year.
but the Bills have to bring in another guy to push him, iether through the draft or a free agent with starting possibilities.
Drew Willy isn’t going to push Trent Edwards. No rookie is. It has to be a veteran.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
What they need is someone like Kerry Collins, who can quietly be a dependable backup for two years or go 11-1 as a starter. The problem is there aren’t very many players like that.
Plus it’s not likely the Bills would sign someone that experienced – look a the FA quarterbacks that have come through here in the last few years – Craig Nall, Kelly Holcomb, Shane Matthews…
this isn't even a debate in my opinion
Of course Edwards is still the guy, he’s young and his completion percentage is excellent, a good combination. Most young QBs usually get to grow with a solid veteran of a tight end to achieve their high percentage, Trent has been stuck with a clown cast of Robert Royal, Fine, and Schouman. Don’t get me wrong, I personally like Schouman, he’s come up big in a few games but in the end, all I can say is: second year quarterback and those are his tight ends? Really?
I also don’t believe we should bring in another guy to push Edwards. Trent doesn’t come across to me as a guy who needs to be pushed, he’ll do that to himself. What Trent needs is a mentor far more than competition. I wish there was a 32 year old, non-threatening, but rock solid free agent QB out there. Is there?
Regardless, Trent is the man 100%. The only concern I have is that he is starting to appear injury prone. That is a serious career concern.
Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.
The only concern I have is that he is starting to appear injury prone
yes this is very worrisome. I also think we need a veteran QB that can play one or two games because Edwards does get injured. The concussion I don’t think was preventable as far as anything he could do save for recognizing that blitz. So we get a holcomb like player and that would be good enough for me
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by J2 on Dec 12, 2008 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
he was injury prone in college and we thought it was just because of a bad o-line,
maybe we were wrong and he is just not able to stay healthy which to me sucks. He shows way to much poise when he is healthy and has only shown he sucks when he isnt.
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and our O-line is good?
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 12, 2008 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Jury is still out
I desperately want to label Trent as the guy, but he is still young and making “young” mistakes… For me to absolutely be sure, I need another year to answer this… I sure hope he is…..
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by chaosthepitbull on Dec 12, 2008 9:14 AM EST reply actions
not a doubt
in my mind that Trent is the guy. Unequivocally he is the future of the franchise and his work ethic, determination, perseverance and character will all be tested this off-season. Don’t quite on this team, cuz trent edwards ain’t going anywhere and he ain’t quitting that’s for damn sure
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3rd Year's the Charm
Isn’t the 3rd year typically the “breakout” year for a QB after a sophmore slump more often than not? That’s what I’m hoping for (e.g. see Eli).
Yeah, there’s a question mark about Trent because of his anemic performance, but its also because of the high expectations he set by his success early this season. So even though he’s “fallen back to Earth”, I think we’ve all seen what he’s capable of.
Just give him a run game and a credible end-zone threat (maybe we could draft a tall WR, former backetball player from Indiana?)
I completly agree
Isn’t the 3rd year typically the "breakout" year for a QB after a sophmore slump more often than not?
I think all QB’s need 3 years before they can be labeled. Trent has started all of a season and a half. No way can we give up on the youngin just yet. People were ready to throw the towel in on the guy after like 7-8 game this year. Although I despise the Cowgirls, I find myself arguing with their fans to give Romo another year starting, before they cast judgement. He only has 2 full years and 10 games of starting experience. (albiet he had another 2 on the bench).
Trent has all of the tools and the “intangibles” to very successful as our QB. Give him time people before we officially lable him the “B” word.
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by MonStarr_716 on Dec 12, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
It’s easy to forget how young he is. The fact that he has only made 21 starts tells me that most of his shortcomings this year will iron themselves out with a little more experience.
I’ve already told everyone where I stand on this.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
I do; he is, and should remain as such
But that being said, if there IS an overhaul in the coaching staff, all bet’s are off.
by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 12, 2008 9:53 AM EST reply actions
I like Trent and think he can be our future but...
I think we should bring in a very capable backup for next year. I would like to see someone like Brian Griese (if he gets cut by Tampa) or possibly even Kitna. I know Kitna may not be the best backup b/c he is always looking to start, but maybe that is what Trent needs to really push him. Patrick Ramsey is also an option although I liken him to JP which makes my vomit a little in my mouth. I would love to get Jeff Garcia but I’m not sure Tampa would let him go unless they sign a big name FA like Cassel (I can’t believe I just called Cassel a big name but I think he is going to get extremely overpaid by someone this offseason and we all know how much Gruden likes QB’s).
I like
Ramsey as a backup. He is starter caliber who got yanked too soon—he definitely is not JP. JP seems to have a mental block somewhere. Kyle Boller would not be bad either. He is not a NFL starter but he is a back up that can win you games. I also like Simms, but it looks like his stock is slowly rising again and I don’t doubt that Detroit or someone would imagine him as a starter again.
Are Carr and Harrington that bad? Could one of them be a decent back up that can win games?
I would definitely go for Harrington
He never had a real team to work with. He is extremely smart and throws a very accurate ball. At this point in his career he understands that he will be a backup.
What about Alex Smith?
Just a thought…I could get behind the Harrington idea too
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 12, 2008 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Joey Harrington, and Alex Smi………Sorry I vomited.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Why??? I thought we were looking for backups
that could push Edwards, but had very little shot of actually taking his job.
Very little shot of actually taking his job and being totally crappy are two different things. Harrington I could live with for the right price and with a #3 I also like.
Smith to me isn’t an NFL QB, he might not even be a CFL QB.
Smith would be a step up from JP.
I’m not sure that is accurate.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
I think Harrington could be a long term backup solution.
He’s similar to Trent in a lot of ways. Makes him a natural backup to Trent. Trent goes down, the game plan remains the same.
Trent is the man
I would just like to see what he can do with a respectable OC.
We’ll see what difference a good OC (HC) can make next year and following with Syracuse. They landed a good one in Marrone. Trent needs one too. And a mentor.
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Trent Edwards is the guy! No doubts whatsoever
This guy has shown glimpses of what he can be and that is GREAT. He has all the physical components, he’s very accurate and his ability to quickly read the defense & detect the blitz is incredible. He is an excellent leader, very mature & calm. There is absolutely no reason to even question this at this point. Mark my words, this kid will be something special – he IS our franchise QB.
He remains a rookie. I mainly blame Turk for creating an environment which made it very difficult for Trent to succeed in. After 4 games, most teams realized that we were a one trick pony and that we telegraphed our plays (ie Shotgun=pass/Under center=run). Teams also quickly realized that when they blitz the young Edwards that he will burn you 60-70% of the time so when we almost completely abandoned the run made it quite easy for opposing defenses to just drop 8 guys into coverage. The majority of the time, Turk has only 2 receivers going out on patterns so Trent can either push it into very crowded coverage or dump it off, so I don’t blame the kid for taking the only real option to him. I blame an offensive coordinator (and ultimately the HC) for not adjusting and helping their young QB by honestly trying to establish the run in order to alleviate the pressure on him and also to provide him with play-action opportunities.
Also Turk put way too much on this kid’s shoulders by giving him the ability to check off plays at the line. This kids has all the intangibles, lets keep it simple Stupid (KISS). Here is some food for thought:
Trent Edwards
First Year – GS: 10 games Pct: 56.1% TD: 7 INT: 8 Rating: 70.4
Second Year – GS: 12 games Pct: 66.0% TD: 10 INT: 10 Rating: 85.1
HC: Dick Jauron (W/L=.438 no playoff wins)
Marshawn Lynch, Lee Evans, Jason Peters
Steve Young
First Year – GS: 5 games Pct: 52.2% TD: 3 INT: 8 Rating: 56.9
Second Year – GS: 14 games Pct: 53.7% TD: 8 INT: 13 Rating: 65.5
HC: Leeman Bennett (W/L=.529 2 division titles)
Steve basically only had a decent RB in James Wilder and a fairly decent WR in Kevin House and a goto TE in Jimmie Giles
Peyton Manning
First Year – GS: 16 games Pct: 56.7% TD: 26 INT: 28 Rating: 71.2
Second Year – GS: 16 games Pct: 62.1% TD: 26 INT: 15 Rating: 90.7
HC: Jim Mora (W/L=.557 3 div championships)
WR: Marvin Harrison RB:Marshall Faulk/Edgerin James TE: Marcus Pollard
Note: They had Tarik Glenn & Steve McKinney on the left side of the Line
Joe Montana
First Year – GS: 1 games Pct: 56.5% TD: 1 INT: 0 Rating: 81.1
Second Year – GS: 7 games Pct: 64.5% TD: 15 INT: 9 Rating: 87.8
Third Year – GS: 16 games Pct: 63.7% TD: 19 INT: 12 Rating: 88.4
HC: Bill Walsh (Rookie)
What made Montana so great was that he did not have any superstars around him. It should be noted that he got to learn for two season before having to start AND Bill Walsh was a genius so it surely had some effect on Montana.
John Elway
First Year – GS: 10 games Pct: 47.5% TD: 7 INT: 14 Rating: 54.9
Second Year – GS: 14 games Pct: 56.3% TD: 18 INT: 15 Rating: 76.8
HC: Dan Reeves (.423)
WR: Steve Watson RB: Sammy Winder
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Trent’s numbers after two seasons are comparable to Peyton Manning. Peyton had considerably more production (i.e. TDs) than Trent but he also had a winning coach, great LT, great receiver, great RB & great TE
Trent’s numbers are considerably better than Steve Young & John Elway which both were in very similar coach situations but I must admit that I think Trent has had better weapons, not that much better but enough to justify the difference.
Not sure how you can compare him to Montanna because Montana got 1.5 years of learning from a veteran and he was playing for Bill Walsh after all. I know that Bill was a rookie coach but he was a Phenom . What makes Montanan’s first three years so impressive is the fact that he had no superstars around him. I think their success can be attributed in large part to the innovativeness of the West Coast passing strategy, which took many defensive coordinators by surprise.
Anyways, it is clear to me that we have a very special QB in Trent Edwards given that he has still managed to put up these numbers even though the play-calling has been horrendous most of the season. With the parts we have in place already, all that seems to be missing is a quality (winning) coach to put it all together!
Well said...
I’m sure if I cared, I could find similar stats for some sophomore QB’s that wound up being mediocre or worse. I do agree with your overall assessment (and Brian’s) of Edwards—the kid has the tools to be an above average signal caller or better. It seems like most of us are in violent agreement on this one. Next year should be very telling however, even with an unstable coaching situation.
"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban
The major point here is that
All the great ones went through a learning period and most of them only really came into their own when they had a winning coach.
After the glimpses we’ve seen of him and given the horrendous coaching / play-calling and total lack of commitment to the running game how on earth could anyone want to send him packing?
He is smart, he is a great leader, he has shown lots of poise (i.e. come from behind wins in the 4th quarter), he’s got a lighting fast release.. I heard many people claim that we should have gotten our hands on Pennington in the off season – what would that have given us? The reason why he is doing so well is that they are committed to the run first. No QB could have done well in Buffalo with the horrible play calling we’ve had. Even Kurt Warner struggles when opposing defenses keep 7 in coverage and he has Fitz/Boldin & Breaston
I definitely agree that we give him another year but I hope that he gets the opportunity to play for a Winning coach that builds an offense focused on the Run. If we could get Marshawn going, I think Trent could be a superstar.
As a comparison
Here are 2 QB’s and how they have faired in recent years (keeping in mind these 2 were high 1st round picks)
Eli Manning:
2007 – 56.1% yds: 3,336 ypp: 6.3 TD:23 Int: 20 QB Rating: 73.9
2006 – 57.1% yds: 3,244 ypp: 6.2 TD:24 Int: 18 QB Rating: 77
2005 – 52.8% yds: 3,762 ypp: 6.8 TD: 24 Int: 17 QB Rating: 75.9
Philip Rivers:
2007 – 60.2% yds: 3,152 ypp: 6.9 TD: 21 Int: 15 QB Rating: 82.4
2006 – 61.7% yds: 3,388 ypp: 7.4 TD: 22 Int: 9 QB Rating: 92
when you compare these numbers with Edwards numbers you see that they are similar. In both cases those teams (Giants and Chargers) were committed to running the ball and putting their QB in a position to succeed.
The moral of the story is that Edwards needs time to develop and should do so with the good coaching and the proper mix of run/pass play calling. With that you’ll see Trent’s TD numbers go up.
I'm 99% behind him
He hasn’t shown any reason to jump ship and there are no other alternatives anyway. I bet if you looked at second year stats of QBs they wouldn’t be much better or worse than Trent’s numbers.
I can't say yes
until he proves he can play in the elements. So far in cold weather, he has looked like that homeless guy in “Scrooged” who froze to death.
I hate the cold weather argument, because most quarterbacks struggle in the elements. Tom Brady and Brett Favre are the only dudes who can claim to be masters of the elements. Everyone else struggles.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Last I checked this was a Buffalo Bills forum
How can this not be a factor? I really don’t care about the other QBs !
The reality is that we need a guy that can take the cold, period. So yes it is a factor for us.
I didn’t say it wasn’t a factor… just that most quarterbacks aren’t consistently good in crappy weather.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately, Farve and Brady both play in the AFC EAST
If Edwards wants to be a great QB in Buffalo, he HAS to be able to play well in the cold.
Does Eli Manning have to play well in the cold to be a great quarterback in New York? Apparently not. He has, but not every game. I’m just saying that we can deal with inconsistency in bad weather if it comes right down to it.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
You could also argue that you can win without a decent QB (ie Baltimore/Dilfer) but that not what we are debating here.
You asked if we thought Trent was the guy for the future and all Joe said was he feels that for him a QB in Buffalo needs to be able to play in cold weather.
Ha, yeah, I know what he’s driving at. Am I not allowed to even slightly disagree with him? :)
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I would be dissappointed if you didn't,
but this seems to be a topic that gets your blood flowing. My guess is that it is because you are worried that I am right.
Of course I am! Obviously, I’m not thrilled with the way Trent has played in the cold, because there’s no way I could be. Our only disagreement is how important being able to handle poor weather is to being a good QB in the NFL.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
No QB plays well in every game, you know that
Can you give me a cold weather game Edwards has played well in? I am not saying I don’t like Edwards, that he is a bust, or that we should trade him. All I am saying is that before I can call him the “future”, he needs to show me he can play in the cold. If someday we manage to put together a dominant O-line with an OC that sticks with the run, and a dominate defense like the Ravens, then maybe we will be able to gamble on spotting approx half of the games we play (that have the real potential of being played in poor conditions) by having a QB who can’t play well in it.
Obviously I can’t give you a game Edwards has played in which he fared well in the cold, because there hasn’t been one. I’m not saying he has the potential to be lights-out in that weather, either; all I’m saying is that this one area shouldn’t preclude him from being considered the future of the franchise.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Especially if we had an offense that focussed on the Run first.
Then weather would not be as big of a factor, which is why guys like Parcells build teams from the trenches outwards. I’ve heard Parcells talk about QBs & RBs as they were expandable but never would he talk taht way about a stud lineman. And given that I am a true Parcells disciple I must agree with you Brian that not being able to play at an elite level in bad conditions would not preclude him from consideration as long as our team is built around the big guys & the run game.
This is my point precisely! :)
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Lets keep Ewards...
…and bring in Bill or Marty to build this team into a mean lean running machine!
I’m still behind Jauron, but I have to say, I would definitely be a fan of getting Marty. If nothing else, he has an eye for coordinator talent for certain.
by PozDispenser on Dec 12, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
It used to be that a QB wasn't judged until year 5.
That was the old days. Now teams are desparate for a decent QB and hurry their development. So in they go from the start. Didn’t used to go like that. Most sat for 2+ years before seeing extended field time. So, in today’s game a QB should not be judged until after year 3. At least.
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Aaron Rodgers took the old route and it worked out well for him. He looks polished despite their record
Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.
Injury
Trent can’t be our guy if he is always injured. I think eventually Trent Edwards is gonna end up with a career treating or ending injury
by The Buffalonian on Dec 12, 2008 1:13 PM EST reply actions
“Always injured” is a bit incorrect. But yes, injuries are a concern.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I'm behind him 100%
though I don’t trust him.
I don’t like him in weather and don’t trust him at all after Halloween. He has to prove it to us first before I can trust he’ll lead us to late season victories.
I also don’t know what to think when he can’t find ways to have ANY success against teams that drop 8 in coverage. That is so concerning to me.
He also seems to get very rattled when things go poorly. At least he has the last month-month and a half. He looks scared out there at times…
I do like his success against the blitz…..
~K
I have seen that scared look, but
I think he bounces back. One play I think is illustrative. At the end of the Cleveland game (almost certainly his worst) after throwing bad picks and checking down virtually every play, he threw a beautiful 23 yard strike in between four defenders to get us into field goal position. That play, more than anything, convinced me that he’s our guy. I’m sure a lot of the players feel the same way, which is far more important than what you or I think.
by PozDispenser on Dec 12, 2008 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Not necessarily defending...
I also don’t know what to think when he can’t find ways to have ANY success against teams that drop 8 in coverage.
But how many QB’s will have success with 8 defenders in coverage? Especially with our competent, yet less than stellar recieving corps?
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by MonStarr_716 on Dec 12, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
13 guys say no,
well I want to know who you are cuz that makes me angry }\
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It doesn’t make me angry, but I’d certainly like to hear their side of the argument – even if they’re just operating on gut instinct. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe the question is too black and white? If your on the fence about something, a straight yes or no poll is hard to answer. It should include an “other” option with “explain in comments”
I’ve quickly learned that those polls generally tend to get overwhelmed by the “other”, simply because everyone’s got mixed feelings on an issue like this. Perhaps I should have rephrased it “leaning towards yes” or “leaning towards no”
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I thin Edwards is the starter next year. Ideally we get Kitna as the backup. We can’t afford to quit on him yet, and I mean that quite literally. If a big name QB does hit the market, we won’t be winning a bidding war for his services, and we can’t afford the luxury of spending another high draft pick on a QB. Our best option is to bring a good backup (health is an issue with Trent) and focus most of our offseason on other needs (C, DE, LB).
I dont need to really tell you all where I stand,,,,,,,,,
I’ve been pimping the Stanford folks ad nasuem lately……
In Trent I Trust….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 12, 2008 4:03 PM EST reply actions
Could it be a coaching issue?
Clearly, Edwards hasn’t been prepared to face heavy coverage schemes. Neither has the offense. To my way of thinking, that seems like a coaching issue. Edwards talked about how the defenses they were playing weren’t the same defenses they watched on film. Shouldn’t the coaches have been showing him film of the sorts of defenses he was seeing, even if it wasn’t the team they were prepping for? Shouldn’t the coaches have game planned for heavy coverage schemes after the 2nd time they faced that sort of defense?
Edwards has had his issues. I’m not about to defend his erratic first half throwing habits. I just don’t think that it can be laid at his feet until the coaching staff prepares him (and the offense generally) for what the defense is going to throw at him.
well said
How does that saying go? Fool me once,,, fool me twice but… ah what the heck keep fooling me ’cause we like it?? I understand that our Center sucks and running the ball up the middle was still a problem but why not stretch to the outside or sweep it? Our ability to adjust is so poor that it is discouraging.
Actually you’ve been instrumental in pointing out how predictable their play calling has been all season. It makes it even harder on a rookie QB when the opposing D know exactly what you are going to do.. And giving him the authority to audible and check off is not a good idea for a rookie, too much pressure.
Edwards is my guy all the way
I think he will become a very good QB, not a great one, but a guy who can help this team win consitently and after the past 10 years, I will more than take that, who wouldn’t?
As for his struggles this year, we need to give him 3 full seasons before we can pass judgement, that means 48 games folks, he is no where near that number yet. Yes I am slightly afraid due to his injury tendancies so far, but willing to wait and see on it.
Replacing our craptacular Centers with some acutal lineman should help out alot in getting to keep Edwards upright and getting the passing game from under center going. Our inability to run due to Folwer/Preston sitting in the RBs and QBs laps on every play hurts us tremendously. With a better C, and less predictable playcalling (Norm Chow maybe?), we should see a different Trent next season.
As for Cold Weather play, maybe that would be fixed by practicing outside several times a week after the month of Oct. has passed. There are plenty of college and HS teams that do that to keep their QBs and WRs used to nasty weather come game day, maybe Trent needs that type of help?
Anyhow, Trent needs another season, MINIMUM before I will lable him anything other than our starter who shows real good promise.
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
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