Bills/Jets: Keys to a Bills Victory

Buffalo Bills (6-7) at New York Jets (8-5)
Sunday December 14, 2008 1PM EST
New Jersey, Meadowlands
It's hard trying to put this together without completely mailing it in. This season is d-u-n done and how much fun is it trying to write about a lost cause? Anyways, here's what the Bills need to do to win, but likely won't:
Run away from Kris Jenkins: Jenkins absolutely destroyed Puke Preston in the first matchup and I fully expect the same to occur Sunday. We need to effectively run it off-tackle and outside this week because Jenkins will control the interior. Teams have begun to have some success running on the Jets lately, so it'd be nice if the Bills stuck to the run and were able to do the same. Turk, you listening? Doubt it...
Just try getting it to Evans: I truly thought that JP Losman would be going deep to Lee Evans early and often last week, but it obviously didn't happen. I can't even recall an attempt. There was one to Roscoe Parrish, but none to Evans. We might as well as least try to play to Losman's strengths. It can't get any worse than last week, can it?
Score some TDs: Even if we don't win, I just want to see the offense reach the endzone again. I'm sick of watching a stagnant, overmatched offense put up 3 points a week. We can't go 3 straight games without a touchdown, right? I had a feeling that once we hit 50 against the Chiefs, that we had wasted some TDs for the rest of the year. That turned out to be the truth.
Shut down the short passing game: The Jets rely on the short passing game. Brett Favre and his receivers do their best work underneath, and this is an area where we got killed in the first matchup. Lately, teams have been shutting down this aspect of the Jets offense and they've really struggled as a result. I hope we can do the same, but we've been hoping for this all season. Some turnover would be nice...
Don't get burned by Leon: Leon Washington always seems to have a big play or two against us. That dang screen pass is the bane of my existence. Again if we don't win, fine, I just don't want to see this guy go off on us.
Begin building some momentum for next year: As lame as it sounds... I'd much rather go into the off-season on a winning streak or at least off some good performances. Dick Jauron's teams have finished a combined 0-5 the past two seasons when the playoffs where at least in sight. It'd be nice if his team could actually finish strong for once. I don't know if it will have any impact on next year, but it might, so play well guys!
Play the young guys: Since the season is shot there's no reason to keep playing some of the veterans that we know so well. I want to see the young guys get a chance to prove what they are capable of. These final three games I would love to see an increase in playing time for Derek Fine, Derek Schouman, Demetrius Bell, Xavier Omon, Steve Johnson, James Hardy, Gibran Hamdan (!), John Wendling, Chris Ellis, Reggie Corner, Leo McKelvin and so on. What good is it not seeing what these guys might be able to offer in bigger roles. Some of these guys will need to step up big time next year, so let's get their feet wet now and let them take their bumps and bruises now.
Don't embarrass yourselves: Consecutive games putting up just a FG against the likes of San Francisco and Miami is simply embarrassing. How about this team man up and start playing like an NFL team for once? We're all ticked off by the quality of play this team is putting out on the field. I just want to see the coaches and players show some urgency and come out looking like they care.
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I apologize for the quality of this post. This team disgusts me so much right now! Maybe they'll surprise us this week, but I'm guessing it'll just be another week where they quit and don't really challenge the opposition. Enjoy the game everyone and remember, it's one week closer to the draft....
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K I agree......
there is no reason to NOT run the ball 35-40 times on Sunday…..(unless the team feels bad for the way JP was handled and are trying to give him every opportunity to impress a future employer……which would be the crappiest idea I’ve ever heard…..but knowing this team I wouldnt put it past them)
and yes….all the young guys need tons of reps…..tons of meaningful reps (not the 3rd or 4th game of preseason variety)
I like you……am totally frustrated to the point where Im spending more and more time over at Halos Heaven even though Angels baseball isnt for 3 more months……..yuck…….
I hope for a decent showing…..not the puke fests we’ve been privied too the last few games.
PIPE DREAM: Jim Harbaugh for the Bills next head coach.
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 13, 2008 3:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's not a crappy idea to help out Losman
The guy did everything he was asked that was within his ability. Let the guy play to his strengths. It can only help Buffalo’s draft status.
by Ron From NM on Dec 13, 2008 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he didnt do everything he was asked.........
because if he did….He would be the “GUY” right now…..and we wouldnt be having this conversation.When he was drafted that was the Bills saying……we want you to lead us for the long haul….take us to the promised land….He’s failed to deliever on that…..so the Bills dont owe him Squat
PIPE DREAM: Jim Harbaugh for the Bills next head coach.
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 13, 2008 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't read my comment
Or at least you didn’t read the part about “within his ability”. Surely at some point it became clear on film of his college days that he was a strong armed QB who excelled at the deep ball but not much else. Losman is what he is, and the Bills (Donahoe? Mularkey?) thought he could be something else. Is it Losman’s fault that the Bills didn’t accurately evaluate his talent level?
by Ron From NM on Dec 13, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no.....its not.......but where is JP's acountability?
He should be able to identify what he needs improvement at…..yet after 5 years in the league he’s still the same guy he was when he came out? That unacceptable and inexcusable….
PIPE DREAM: Jim Harbaugh for the Bills next head coach.
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 13, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hence the reason he’s not a starter… The Bills reached for a Manning and got a Leaf instead.
by Ron From NM on Dec 14, 2008 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say they reached for a Favre and got a Boller….
~K
by Kurupt on Dec 14, 2008 1:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly....so why you were you disagreeing again then?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 2:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Run away from Kris Jenkins:
I think that, more than just running away from him, we need to make him run. If there’s one thing that 350 pound dudes hate doing, its chasing plays all over the field. Let’s run some stretches and get him running sideline to sideline. I wouldn’t mind seeing a bunch of designed rollouts as well. If there is one thing that Losman does well, its use his mobility to create yards and time to throw the ball (he’s also excellent as fumbling). He certainly has a strong enough arm to throw from hashmark to hashmark downfield. It’ll keep us from having to rely on keeping the middle of the pocket clean, and, as an added bonus, when Losman inevitably fumbles, there will be a greater chance of it happening to roll out of bounds instead directly to a defender (as he’ll be closer to the sidelines).
by PozDispenser on Dec 13, 2008 9:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
3-4 built to stop outside runs
If Buffalo is going to run the ball against New Jersey it will have to be between the tackles….which will require someone other than Preston/Fowler at center. Or, thinking outside the box, perhaps Preston can send a smoking hot hooker with a virulent flu bug over the Jenkins’ room the night before the game.
by Ron From NM on Dec 13, 2008 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Momentum?
Sorry, the “build momentum heading into next season” has grown old. As of last week, my hope was that the Bills would do the opposite…lose out. Why? Then we would have more of a case to make changes in the stagnant administration that runs this team. We need a quality GM who will have free reign to fire Dick from the get-go. Winning out gives Ralph an excuse to bring Dick back for two to three more years…the very last thing we need.
One more thing that’s overrated: the continuity thing. Has a new staff hurt the Ravens or Falcons this year?
Southern PA (and Poz) Bills Fan
by ChipShot on Dec 13, 2008 9:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Get the ball to the TE
Living in the area I do, I wasn’t able to watch the last two Bills games, (It’s not always a bad thing in hindsight) Instaed I was forced to watch the Jets game. Both Jets losses. The Jets are very vunerable to the short passes over the middle, primarily to the TE. If Losman can get the ball to the TE with even a little bit of consistency, the Bills will have a chance to do something on offense.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Dec 13, 2008 9:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Jets linebackers are awful in coverage. The are big and slow, don’t anticipate all that well and are just stiff in coverage. JP needs to rely on his tight ends and the coaches need to find ways to get the RBs running routes over the middle of the field and when NY is in zones that leave their WRs on the outside, than Josh Reed should be running almost all of his routes over the middle.
by kaisertown on Dec 13, 2008 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So the only hope is for Losman to be accurate with short throws?
by Ron From NM on Dec 13, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I first read your response I was asking myself, “What the hell is he talking about, I didn’t say that”. Then I reread what I wrote and I can see how you could infer that. That isn’t what I meant. I would say that short passes over the middle will be a good way for the Bills to attack the Jets D. Running up the middle hoping that Duke can block Jenkins is not.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Dec 13, 2008 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now there's an interesting poll!
Which hope is more futile:
A. that Preston can block Jenkins; or
B. that Losman can be accurate on short throws?
I’m not sure how I’d vote!
by Ron From NM on Dec 13, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As bad as Loseman is,
Preston/Fowler are worse. JP has a snowball’s chance in hell of completing a short pass. Preston has no chance of blocking Jenkins. The counter point is that the guards can help our center with Jenkins. Nobody can throw the ball for JP.
by Joe P. on Dec 13, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True....
….but sometimes receivers can dig passes out of the dirt or jump really, really high.
by Ron From NM on Dec 14, 2008 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I truly thought that JP Losman would be going deep to Lee Evans early and often last week, but it obviously didn’t happen. I can’t even recall an attempt. There was one to Roscoe Parrish, but none to Evans.
Oh, sure there was, K. Evans got wide open deep, Losman threw it about 15 yards too far – looked like he was aiming for the kid in the front row with an Evans jersey on – Evans got tangled up with the defender, and the throw was so bad that it eliminated an illegal contact call. How could you forget that play?! :)
I apologize for the quality of this post.
But it was quality. Your points are simple, but then again, Buffalo’s play has been rather elementary itself. Baby steps. You can’t teach a kindergartner geometry.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 13, 2008 10:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, sure there was, K. Evans got wide open deep, Losman threw it about 15 yards too far – looked like he was aiming for the kid in the front row with an Evans jersey on – Evans got tangled up with the defender, and the throw was so bad that it eliminated
Actually they took several shots deep in the course of that game, but he overthrew the receiver every single time. I realize he has a big arm, but this is not the time to show it off in that fashion.
On a more serious note, I’ve been saying that if we would have run the ball 35-40 times the last few weeks we would have won our last three games quite possibly. Well we definitely would’ve won a couple because Lynch gets better as the game goes on, and if you work in some true under-center playaction deep drop passes that can be a recipe for success for Losman.
I want to see some 4 wide spread formations and pounding the rock as well as putting Jackson and Lynch out wide. Hey and how about some 2 back sets with a TE and 2 WRs. There’s so much we can do out of these formations it’s sick, yet we probably won’t see diddily.
Anyone remember those sideline double moves that worked at so high a percentage when attempted by Fairchild with Lee where he perfectly sells the deep in cut and blows right by the DB with a double move go route. This would be fantastic and should have been our bread and butter all year. No one sells that better than Lee!
by live6453 on Dec 13, 2008 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On that throw to Evans
Evans and the DB got tangled up well shy of the end zone and the DB went down. That’s why Evans was so wide open and also at least partially explains the overthrow. I’m not saying Evans would have made it to the ball if he hadn’t gotten tangled up with the DB so it still could have been an overthrow….but you can’t hang it entirely on Losman. The Parrish overthrow or the one to Evans at the bench, yep, pure Losman.
by Ron From NM on Dec 13, 2008 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This game may turn out to be a good barometer of what DJ is thinking
If he plays the young ones, which he should, he’s thinking about next year. If he does not play them, he’s more concerned about his own job security.
I like the poll results so far. 36 – 8 in the negative! Realism reigns.
everything goes better with a BIG MACK
by keuka121 on Dec 13, 2008 10:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed Keuka121
I am still trying to figure out why JP is starting. Hamdan….Hamdan….Haaaaammmmmdddddaaaaannnnn!!! (thought I would start early). The answer is that if the Bills have even the smallest chance to make the playoffs, then Jauron has to play the starters. After this week it should be official, and we should never have to see JP in a Bills uniform again (seems like I have been saying that for 3 weeks).
by Joe P. on Dec 13, 2008 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would at least play Hamdan. He doesn’t have to start, but give him a few series to see what he can do.
~K
by Kurupt on Dec 13, 2008 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But are a few series really going to tell you that much about Handen anyways? Would an entire game even tell you anything? I think the Bills should already know that Hamden simply cannot be the backup QB next year. If that is the case, then they should play whoever gives them the best chance to win and sadly that seems like Losman.
by kaisertown on Dec 13, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care anymore
I hate to say it, because I’m going to the game, but I really don’t care anymore.
All I want to see is the young backups. That will at least be fun and give me something to watch and think about. I don’t care to watch our team win. It’d be nice but I really just don’t. So they win and we go 7-9 again? Yay….ugh. I feel so let down by this team this year. 9-7 would be nice but it’d be nice if Trent was doing it to get his confidence back up not JP Losman. Let Hamdan play, let the young linebackers play (if any of them are healthy), let the young corners play, let Demetrius Bell play, let McCargo play so we can up his trade value if he plays well, etc. etc.
Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.
by poz on Dec 13, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hang in there
poz….hang in there. Go watch a nice young Bills team piss off some Jets fans and beat em! Pump it up! Have a great time and Go Bills! Get us a win!
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Dec 13, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We’re about two losses away from needing a group hug, or discussing happier things for multiple threads, me thinks.
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 13, 2008 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m wondering if I should were one of my Bills jerseys or go in disguise.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Dec 13, 2008 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Go in your Bills jersey
Someone might have pity on you and buy you a beer. If the Bills happen to win, be sure to have something else to change into or you may get killed in the parking lot :-)
by Joe P. on Dec 13, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had customized jerseys made...
…with the name Anonymous on the back. Seriously.
by Ron From NM on Dec 14, 2008 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL....I was thinking of having one made
that says Wyde Wright, # 47 of course.
by Joe P. on Dec 14, 2008 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks Marv
It will be good to go see a game and I will probably forget how bad I feel right now if they win, at least temporarily. But it is getting harder and harder to hang in there without descending into complete and utter bitterness as a fan.
Part of the love/hate relationship with the Bills is that you’ll never ever abandon the team so you sort of just sink into a lowly type of despair. Good reminder to keep myself out of that territory, but man oh man, are the Bills making it hard to do so.
I’m not even talking about dare I say it, the Music City Disaster or wide right or that type of sinking feeling. That kind hurts, bad. I’m talking about the sinking feeling of empty promises and hopes and a creeping sense that the Bills are passing by something that could have been there. Ah, I guess I’m not explaining it well. Basically, the last time I felt this way was when the Bills of Bledsoe, Price, Moulds, and Henry in 2002 and 2003 had the league cocking an eyebrow and thinking the Bills maybe had a special team brewing, and then just deflated.
I remember the second game of 03’, after we stomped the Jaguars and had shutout the Patriots the game before, after Bledsoe lit up the Jags for 300+ yards, Henry ran in 3 TDs, and Moulds was unstoppable just thinking that we are here, we have arrived, lets roll this baby into the playoffs and see what happens. I mean, in 2002, Henry had 1400 yards and what? 14 Tds?? and yea, Peerless was gone in 03 but in 02 him and Moulds combined for some 190 catches and 2,000 + yards and about 20 TDs.
We were 2-0 and nobody was going to stop us. And what happened? Next thing I know we are closing the 2003 season 6-10, and what started as talk of firing the coach turns into reality. Sound familiar? If we finish this season 6-10, and after I got excited again (and for better reason this time, 5-1 you gotta believe right?) I’m going to have a mental breakdown.
Sorry for bringing everyone down, I just feel like I’m re-living history right now and it ain’t pretty. It just seems like this team has been doing this to us for a decade and I’m starting to question if its actually going to stop.
Ok, maybe I should go watch Independence Day,. that always cheers me up. Nothing like America kicking the crap out of aliens.
Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.
by poz on Dec 13, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great movie
“This was supposed to be my weekend off, but no. You got me out here dragging your heavy ass through the desert, with your dreadlocks sticking out the back of my parachute. You got to come down here with an attitude, acting all big and bad. And, what the Hell is that smell?”
by Joe P. on Dec 13, 2008 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
welcome to earth........
PIPE DREAM: Jim Harbaugh for the Bills next head coach.
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 13, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
some thoughts
Run away from Kris Jenkins
I think the Bills best chance of running the ball is by running between the tackle and guards. I think Marshawn is better bouncing those outside than he is on plays that are atually designed to go outside, as backwards as that seems.
Just try getting it to Evans
Your right, if there is one thing Losman SHOULD be able to do, it is find his buddy Evans. I don’t care if he has to use his patented stare down and don’t even look at other options technique, Evans needs to catch some passes and one or two of them need to be big plays for this offense to work.
We can’t go 3 straight games without a touchdown, right?
uggghh (or insert gutteral sound). If this team can’t score at least 10 points on Sunday, I might cry.
Shut down the short passing game
You and I seem to have philosophical differences on this one, but I’m gonna debate in anyways. I don’t think that teams have been shutting down the short stuff lately. Opponents have taken away the deep stuff and as a result, Favre simply isn’t consistent enough to lead those long slow drives. Last week at San Fran, Favre completed 65% of his passes, the problem was that the Jets only had three plays longer than 10 yards. All three of those plays came during both of NY’s TD drives. You beat Brett Favre by forcing him to dump it off, hit those 5 yard outs and keep everything in front of you until he gets impatient and starts forcing the ball.
It was the same way when we played the Jets last time. They scored a FG on the opening drive after the 40 yard screen pass to Washington. The second drive contaned no plays of ten yards, the Jets punted. Drive 3 was the one where Trent fumbled and NY started at the 6 yard line and kicked a FG. The Jets moved the ball during drive 4 with 3 plays over 10 yards, but they missed the FG. Drive 5 had two completions over 10 yards and the Jets kicked a FG. The 35 yard play to Cotchery and a 14 yard completion led to a 4 play TD drive the 6th time NY had the ball. The Jets 7th and last posession was when they ran all over us and was highlighted by Jones’ 23 yard run. That drive ended in a FG. There is a direct correlation between giving up those big chunks of yardage and giving up points. Dick Jaruon and Perry Fewell defense works against Favre.
Don’t get burned by Leon
That is a big one. Washington is as dangerous as they come. But honestly what do you expect to happen when the Bills blitz when the NY runs a screen pass and they only guy left to make a play is Ko Simpson? The Bills need to be conservative and pick and choose their spots to bring the linebackers.
Begin building some momentum for next year
It’s a nice thought, but I don’t think it matters, especially with Trent standing on the sidelines. If Edwards was playing, I think it would be much more important for the offense to have a good showing and build for next season.
Play the young guys
I agree that it is important, but a lot of those guys are getting good playing time anyways. McKelvin has already been forced into action with Greer and Youboty out. Same for Corner. I already threw my thoughts out there for Hamden playing. This team needs to build their offense around Jason Peters and Langston Walker and they have a fine third tackle in Kirk Chambers. It isn’t worth a spot on the game day roster for Demetrius Bell to see some action, especially if he isn’t ready to handle NYs edge rushers. I think it is better for a player’s development to leave him on the bench than it is to put him out there and watch him get beat. Same thing for Omon, with Lynch and Jackson being part of the offense’s foundation. I think John Wendling has already cemented himself as a special teamer in the NFL. If he was capable of playing any defense, he would have by now. Derek Fine, Derek Schouman, Chris Ellis, Copeland Bryan, Steve Johnson and the Hardy boy should all see increased playing time. Considering that PT will come at the expense of Robert Royal, Roscoe Parrish and Ryan Denney, why not put those guys on the field?
by kaisertown on Dec 13, 2008 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I meant quick passing game, I think. Whatever it is, we can’t let Favre sustain drives, how bout that one?!?
I think momentum can be built, even if it’s minor. Remember this team doesn’t know how to win, and may never know how to win consistently, but it’d be nice if they finished the year strong for once. Give them something to take some pride in at the end of the year. I don’t think we’ll win any of the next 3, but if we won say, two of them, I think that can have a real positive effect on the team next year. Unfortunately that would probably mean Jauron gets to return, so I have to be careful what I wish for….
~K
by Kurupt on Dec 14, 2008 2:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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