Bills bumble away victory in Meadowlands
by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2008 4:39 PM EST
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In the NFL, moral victories are meaningless. So when the Buffalo Bills didn't pull a opossum and play dead in their 31-27 loss to the New York Jets on Sunday... well, let's just say that if there was going to be a moral victory - or, heck, just a victory - the way the Bills bumbled it away erased any good that came from what was a strong performance.
Nursing a 27-24 lead with 2:06 remaining in the game, The J.P. Losman Comedy of Errors took center of stage; Buffalo's reserve quarterback was sacked and fumbled on an inexplicable passing play late in the game, and Jets DE Shaun Ellis returned the ball for the game-winning touchdown.
Just shake your head and add the manner of this loss to the pile of crap we've had to endure over the past decade. The terrible play-call and subsequent fumble was a microcosm of Buffalo's season, and erased some outstanding play from Buffalo's running backs and special teams unit.
Errors waste strong offensive effort
After scoring 6 points over their past two games, the fact that the Bills scored three offensive touchdowns was a welcome change of pace. Losman scored the first on an 8-yard scramble; Steve Johnson notched his first career TD reception on a 2-yard slant in the second quarter, and Fred Jackson scored the second of his career on an 11-yard effort to temporarily give the Bills the lead deep in the fourth quarter. Add in the fact that Marshawn Lynch gashed the Jets for 127 yards on 21 carries, and the Bills were getting stuff done offensively.
Four turnovers - three Losman interceptions and that lovely fumble we'll be talking about for an off-season - erased all of that positive, and it only took about eight seconds. Another week of highly questionable play-calling from offensive coordinator Turk Schonert didn't help the cause.
D, Special Teams efforts wasted, too
It's becoming a trend with Buffalo's defense to describe their effort as "good enough to win". Sure, they gave up a 47-yard touchdown romp to Leon Washington and several other big plays - not to mention 24 points - but they did intercept two Brett Favre passes (Paul Posluszny, Terrence McGee) and forced a three-and-out to hypothetically win the game in the fourth quarter. They certainly don't deserve much blame in this loss.
The only negative play Buffalo's special teams made was a kickoff return TD from Leodis McKelvin that was negated by a Jon Corto holding penalty. Keith Ellison converted on a fake punt on Buffalo's first drive, Rian Lindell mastered the hook to make two field goals, and Brian Moorman returned to his Pro Bowl form, pinning the Jets at their two-yard line twice. They even did a respectable job on elite kick returner Washington. Clearly, this unit isn't to blame, either - Buffalo's special teams were the best single unit on the field today.
Game Balls
Lynch, Jackson and Moorman were all set to get them, but the loss negates the need to give out awards. Instead, we'll let the fictitious Kevin Malone of The Office describe Schonert's infamous play-call for you:
Roll call
Thanks to the folks in the red block down there for hanging out in the game thread; norcaliangelsfan paced us all with 248 comments, more than three times more than anybody else on the day. He's a nerd, to be sure, but we love him for it.
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Time to sulk. I asked it last week, and I'll ask it again now: is it April yet?
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Im a huge nerd.........
but everyone always has stuff to say thats either a good point or something I hadnt……..so I comment on it LOL…….Plus there is no where else I’d rather be than with you fine folks enjoying (if thats the right word) some Bills football…..
I dont even know what else to say about this game. You said it all about JP Brian….god I hope we get to see some Hamdan sometime in the next two games……I can honestly say now that JP does NOT give us the best chance to win with our healthy QB’s Hamdan cant possibly be any worse can he? I mean seriously……
Congrats to Lynch for going over 1000 yards again…….2 years in a row…..and heck just think if he’d gotten the ball atleast 25 times a game….he’d probably be close to leading the league right now.
I dont want to really throw any other congrats out there today…….its just too damn depressing.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 4:46 PM EST reply actions
I hope we get to see some Hamdan sometime in the next two games
I’d rather see Trent Edwards. Kid needs to play…
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2008 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
well yes of course......
I’d rather trent play too……but Im feeling certain we’ve seen the last snaps for EDWARDS for 2008…just a hunch
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Norcal.....can I ask a favor?
In the game thread, you called out someone for using “the f-bomb.” Good for you. Few of us (certainly not me, believe me) are pure when it comes to language, but the low profanity keeps “Buffalo Rumblings” a pretty classy place to be, especially if you look at other team sites.
Anyway, with that in mind, I noticed you using the Lord’s name in vain several times. To me, that’s more offensive than anything else. I’m just asking – respectfully – if you’d consider not doing that. This is a great place and I usually enjoy your comments along with everyone else’s. Where else could we vent with a frustrating team like this?! Thanks a lot.
by ccthemovieman on Dec 14, 2008 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
hmm......did I say G-D???? if so I apologize.....and I can respect your wishes and try to do better
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
I said it in the game thread
All we had to do was keep running the ball until they stopped us….that is it…game over…win for the Bills. Can we please put the “we need to be loyal to JP and give him another chance” talk to rest.
that was played out last year.........but people some how are still so damn impressed with his arm strength
(which we never get to see) that they let that be the end all be all for him………just like I said in the GDT…..he pretty much robbed the Bills and made millions for nothing.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they were all awesome, particularly Moorman.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I forgot to mention.......
Steve Johnson deserve some consideration……played a very good game
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently DJ made the call to pass....
On the fumble recovery for a TD. Are we still making excuses for him?
There is only one NFL football team that plays in New York state...and Canada?
Did he mention that in his post-game presser?
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Supposidly....
Still waiting for the vid to be posted…..
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by MonStarr_716 on Dec 14, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yeh he did
I listened to the press conference and that was the first thing he said-that it was his call and the blame was on him. Then he went on to say that it WAS A GOOD CALL FOR THE TIME…I’m sorry, but after listening to that press conference, you can’t tell me he is fit to be a head coach in the NFL. I guess it’s admirable that he took responsibility, but he shows no understanding for how to manage a game.
As I said before
that call is grounds to be fired. As the head coach you are supposed to put your team in the best position to win. Calling that kind of play after you had run the ball for 187 yards and passed for around 100 is just inexcusable.
I have been a DJ supporter but this year has proved to me that he is not a good head coach.
by RabidBuffalo on Dec 14, 2008 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
I just hope that he gets fired at the end of the season
I would hate for him to be fired before. We don’t want to see Bobby get the interim for 2 games and then possibly not get the HC position afterwards, I really don’t want to lose Bobby April as ST coordinator.
In that clock position...
passing isn’t out of bounds. They were certain to hit the two minute warning even with an incomplete. The jets weren’t expecting pass. I said it somewhere else, Peters got wiped clean and Losman didn’t get rid of the ball but the guy ran right past Peters. Ron will agree with me on this one…. Turk isn’t to blame for the sack, strip, TD. Jason Peters got beat like a red-headed step child.
by MattRichWarren on Dec 14, 2008 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
problem is again.....taking the ball out of our best players hand and putting into the hands of a questionable player at best..
is not smart football
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Peters didn't have the ball in his hand
and he was the most responsible for the negative outcome.
by MattRichWarren on Dec 14, 2008 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
so what you're saying is.......
that QB’s cant get sacked from the blind side without losing the football? Because you’re excusing him dropping the ball…..
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
A smart coach will play situational football
on 2&5 you can run twice easily for a 1st
So you never, ever take the riskier call. Our run game was working on all cylinders and Marshawn was playing inspired football, the play was to feed it to the BEAST!
especially considering MR conservative DJ......its like he channeled BIZZARO DJ
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think he took the blame for Turk
I seriously doubt that he ran over and over-rode Turk. Jauron is a great person and protects his team and players and I am certain that he is taking the wrap for Turk on this one.
Oh yeah...
According to Adam Schefter earlier today on NFL Gameday, DJ did sign that extension…He says that the state of the economy will dictate Dicks staying on as head coach, because of the buyout.
Adam is normally on point…..
There is only one NFL football team that plays in New York state...and Canada?
does it really matter anymore?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
nope...not at all....
I’ll be rooting for the Ravens (along with my buddy who is a Skins fan) for the rest of the year. I live 15 minutes from Baltimore, so Ill try to catch another game or two this year. Have I given up on Buffalo forever? Never
This year…Yes
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by MonStarr_716 on Dec 14, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Because I live in North Dakota, and my 11-yo son has never had a “home team” (and we never see Bills games, except recently online), he’s randomly become an Atlanta Falcons fan. Since I like Matt Ryan and Michael Turner, I told him two weeks ago I’d have to join him in rooting for the Falcons for the rest of the season.
The best part about watching today’s game online with him was that in the 4th quarter (when it was 21-20 NYJ), I told him, “There’s no way the Bills will pull this game out.” After the Bills had gone up 27-24, he was all excited. I said nothing. Then, of course, came the play I had been waiting for. I just started laughing, and reminded him of what I’d said. He was amazed I was so calm about it. Good lesson for him (in not getting too wrapped up in the outcome).
I’ll always root for the Bills, but I have seen this all for so many years (more than 30 now), you can smell it coming.
by thefourwinds on Dec 15, 2008 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
bumbling Losman/Schonert, not bumbling Bills
Marshawn Lynch and Fred Jackson are absolutely amazing. I think JP Losman is either the biggest loser in the world of sports or is being paid off to throw games, something is going on, its like clockwork, one know whats going to happen before it happens? Somehow Jauron has convinced the entire team that the whole team is to blame for the losses, and to some extent that is always true, but the majority of the reason in my opinion is Losman, he is by far the most cursed football player playing today, get him off your team or lose. He always produces a few nice plays, then ROYALLY screws up multiple times and throws the game making it impossible for his teammates to make up for his disabilities physically and mentally.
I feel bad for Marshawn Lynch, Fred Jackson, Josh Reed, Kelsay, Paul P, and the other hard workers for the bumbling idiots in Schonert and Losman. I do think its possible that someone in the administration and Losman have something in throwing games. You know there is a lot of money around the NFL. Its not impossible. You could see Losman had ball control and then almost shuffled it out of his hands with no help from anyone else. I honestly don’t know how the rest of the players on the team play with Losman, I think there have to be feelings of just wanting to walk of the field, Losman could go down as the most idiot prone quarterback in NFL history.
Ralph is doing us a favor....
Its his way of driving down the cost of the fanchise, so the new owner can keep the team in Buffalo, or his heirs wont get destroyed by the taxes….
(j/k) btw
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by MonStarr_716 on Dec 14, 2008 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Has Jauron
Ever fired one of his assistants? Either here or in Chicago? Something tells me he hasn’t…
yeah but that one we got in the 3rd KILLED a potential scoring drive......
so….that was unimpressive
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
You KNow what else REALLY grinds my gears?
J P freaking Losman, making comments that he was out to make a “highlight reel” against New Jersey today….
Come on Man!
There is only one NFL football team that plays in New York state...and Canada?
Mission accomplished.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2008 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
He's played his "role" pretty well this year...
Even giving props to Trent by calling him talented after Ralph claimed that this team doesn’t have enuff talent. But man, making comments to the media about how you are auditioning for other teams is just inexcusable in my book.
JP, you had like 4 yrs….put up or shut up!
Great performance…not like the other 31 teams in the league didn’t already know that you were an incompetent starting QB in this league.
Why am i soooo p.o.’d with this guy?
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by MonStarr_716 on Dec 14, 2008 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Karma got the best of him......lol
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
lol....
you’re right….I feel a wee bit better now
; )
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by MonStarr_716 on Dec 14, 2008 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
He also spoke about himself
When he was enumerating all the talent he spoke of Lynch/Jackson/Edwards the he mentioned Losman, so at that point it didn’t mean anything anymore…
If Wilson cared
He would fire Jauron tonight. How do you let your OC make such a bone head call!!!
regardless
JP was an idiot…he holds the ball for 5-6 secs on every play. on that play, he has to have a mental clock of 1, 2, 3, throw it away
MARVelous
The holding call on Leo's TD run was a hughie. Terrible call. Game changer
everything goes better with a BIG MACK
we scored anyways...
We still went right down the field for the go ahead TD…The game changer was when the coaches decided to put the ball in JP’s hands instead of letting Marshawn close out what was a beast of a game for him.
this is sooooo very very true
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Man, when things are going bad, these are the kind of errors and calls that happen to you.
Look at Kansas City today, blowing a decent lead in the last minutes, too. They can’t win, either. Bad teams find a way to lose. We can’t allow this to become a habit, not with some of the good, younger players we have. They (Edwards, Lynch, McKelvin, Jackson, etc.) don’t need these negative vibes each week.
by ccthemovieman on Dec 14, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
not a game changer
Now the TD may have been but I don’t think the penalty hurt them other than the points being taken off the board. They came back and continued playing well until Peters got slapped around.
by MattRichWarren on Dec 14, 2008 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Losman looks like a punter playing QB.
Which might explain more than we knew.
by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 14, 2008 5:52 PM EST reply actions
ha
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think Edwards wins this game,
but I really don’t like to speculate. Speculate? I need a spell check… Brian?
Sweet home Orchard Park.
S-p-e-c-u-l-a-t-e. You nailed it. And Firefox has a spell checker built in! :)
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2008 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
WE could have won it with LOSMAN
Had we continued to pound the ball!!!
Friggin Schonert/Jauron are idiots! 2&5 and they decide to pass…
Young guys?
I didn’t watch the game, so I was wondering, how much did guys like Fine and Johnson play? At this point I’d be willing to risk some losses if it meant that our young guys get some experience for next year.
Stevie J played a big role today - got a TD and another couple of big catches.....
Fine had two catches that I remember……and two first downs…..
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Goodbye Jauron. Oh wait. CRAP! Could today be any worse???
What a freakin’ joke today’s ending was. I’m sorry, but today was just another typical Dick Jauron coached loss. I can’t see how ANYONE can defend this guy anymore. That pass call was just absurd, no matter who called it. Jauron oversees it and continues to allow this crap. Good riddance….
Good for Steve Johnson. Nice TD catch and he really looks like the WR from this draft that we’ll get the most out of. Nice player.
Lee Evans continues to be a disappointment. Does that guy ever get open?
What in the world happened to Kawika Mitchell? That guy looks like hot garbage these days. He’s about as fast as me and my bad ankles/knees.
The Corto call stunk. That might cost Leo a Pro Bowl spot as absurd as that sounds.
I wish we could cut Losman right now. What an absolute scrub. Is he the worst QB to start a game this season? I can’t believe we wasted multiple picks on him back in 2004. This is why you won’t be getting many calls, if any, this offseason, JP. You are a guy who loses games for his team.
That picture is too cheery to be related to Schonert’s ineptitude.
Hey at least Marshawn got 21 carries. I can’t believe that doesn’t happen every week. Good job run blocking today. We even picked up that first down on 3rd and 2 just before the Losman fumble….
Make it end, please! Ralph please pull the plug on Jauron, who cares what it costs at this point.
~K
you think Lee is reconsidering his extension right now?
I think I might be if I was him…….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
I will cut Lee some slack
until we get another WR to take away the double and triple teams. Lets hope Johnson is that WR.
is it Lee or the play calling?
I think its more play calling than Lee.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
I have officially
joined your rebellion. This was a terribly disgusting and mind-numbing loss (and I’ve seen a lot). I want DJ out of here now! I am so tired of hearing that the Bills play hard or give it their all, it doesn’t matter. The team isn’t coached well in terms of play calls and tough decisions. I hate change but this isn’t working.
by RabidBuffalo on Dec 14, 2008 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
The Corto call was complete BS. The refs did not like us today
everything goes better with a BIG MACK
it was questionable.....coulda really gone either way.......
but there were def some slanted calls…….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'll try this again. Where in NorCal do you live?
The Navy sent me to Vallejo. Ended up spending extended time in Davis and Sacramento. Hope to move back in about 3yrs to Clear Lake. Beautiful country. No snow or ice.
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Keep trying...
Sometimes Norcal uses the “Z” key… Others, like today, he simply rants, as we all do at times… You’ll get him eventually…
sorry man.....I didnt see your question.....
anyways Im living in Redding right now…I moved back up here after I got out of the air force ( I had been stationed at Travis, and living in Vacaville, pretty much right near where you are now) Anyways redding is a couple hrs north of it…..Clear lake is nice…….and shockingly right now in Redding we are getting SNOW its amazing…..the elevation is like 100 ft here……
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
I have had the great priviledge of living on Keuka Lake for 23yrs now.
That’s in the finger lakes in upstate NY. Love the spring, summer and fall. Just don’t like the 5 month winters. But I do love lake living. So it will be off to Clear Lake, the largest lake west of the Mississippi, fairly soon. I’ll have to get NFL ticket there cause I will always be a Bills fan. I’ll take my Cuse hat too.
Redding. Reminds me of Fresno only more up north. Good hunting country though.
everything goes better with a BIG MACK
Well that's awesome..yeah our winters are much much more milder here....
plus if you want to ever hit up snow you wont have to go too far….california is the best of many worlds……..in my opinion.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Karma got revenge for that bad call
Normally at this point I would be cursing the refs for the bad calls they made especially on Leo’s kick return callback but Karma served justice through the means of Duke Preston. It can be argued if that hit was intentional or by mistake but either way Duke wrecked that ref (I think it was Jeff Triplett or something like that ).
Don’t get me wrong I feel bad for the guy because man that must of hurt, but I can’t help but get this “justice has been served” vibe from this situation. Not just for the kick callback but for every terrible call that we’ve had to endure for this season and a few before.
"Where else would you rather be than right here, right now?"
recap on ESPN.com says Preston apologized to the Ref after the game......
the Ref was quoted as saying he was Classy…..so good on preston atleast he made it seem unintentional……
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Preston seems like a great leader – just a crummy center.
by thefourwinds on Dec 15, 2008 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Players are questioning THE call
I was telling “norcal” above here that on local TV here, the Bills players interviewed afterward were unhappy with the call to bootleg on a 2nd-and-5 with about 2 minutes left. I was surprised they were that frank, although some carefully prefaced their remarks about not wanting to question their coach “but”…….
All of this can’t be good for Jauron. Yes, the players all like their head coach but when they start publically questioning play-calling, something has to give.
yeah no kidding.......team turmoil is no bueno
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Next Year
Folks, I hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but has anybody considered the schedule we are facing next year? Here it is: Pats (with Brady back), Jets, Dolphins, 6 games; AFC South with Tennessee, Indianapolis, Jacksonville and a rampaging and rapidly improving Houston team; followed by the NFC South with Carolina, Tampa Bay, Atlanta and New Orleans. And in all likelihood Cincinnati and Kansas City. It is not inconceivable to speculate, given our current modus operandi, that a record of 3-13 or 4-12 will be forthcoming next year. Hopefully, RW will make changes to avert such a disaster and to right the sinking ship…The Jets, Dolphins, Ravens and Falcons have shown proof positive that a major positive change may be effected within one year…Does Ralph Wilson have the ability or desire to effect such positive cataclysmic changes over the short term?
by BillsnBravesFan on Dec 14, 2008 6:52 PM EST reply actions
Yup, that's another reason fans here are PO'd
because we may never get a schedule this easy again and have Brady out for the season.
However, keep in mind the other AFC East teams will have the same opponents as us, too.
by ccthemovieman on Dec 14, 2008 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
GREAT JOB O-LINE !
The Line played extremely well today, they did their collective jobs very well. Their Run blocking was excellent and their Pass protection was incredible, JP had all the time in the world but he looked like a deer in headlights? What a Moron!
Nah Nah Nah Nah Hey Hey Hey Gooood Bye!
this
season can’t get over soon enough. I just hope Trent can play this week. He needs the game experience badly
MARVelous
im not going to hold my breath
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Or, if you’re Dwight Schrute, “fa la la la la la la ka-ching!”
Or, if you’re Andy Bernard, “Troll the ancient yuletide carol, ri-di-di-doo, do do do do”
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2008 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Haha that episode was great
Michael drags Meredith into the Alcohol rehab clinic with her screaming
“Um hi, I’m here to make a deposit”
"Where else would you rather be than right here, right now?"
The gift wrapped desk was the best beginning of the season. The Jim-Dwight connection had seem to run its course until then.
Haha yes. Classic Jim/Dwight.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 15, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
lol looks like JP's getting his face sucked off
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts on the half of football I saw
JP was no one but JP that game.
Oline did a good job making holes in the run game and acutally dominated like a fat man line like we have should dominate a game.
ML and Freddy did a good job making the yards whether easy or tough.
Stevie J, your going to be a good one I think, hope we can lock you down before you take off for more cash.
If Trent is unable to go this week, I DO NOT want to hear we should start Losman that game. Season is shot, let Hamdan make an attempt.
Refs were calling a one sided game once we started the 3rd Q it seemed. I think the NFL let it be known Brett is preferable to Cassel for the Division champ.
DJ, its nice you claimed that pass play was your idea, but it was Turk’s, he needs to go, I can live with you for 1 more season IF Turk goes the way of the dodo.
Lastly, I don’t care if Peters got beat on that play that cost us the game, we should NEVER have been passing there. When your Oline is making yards by just leaning on the other team regardless of how many guys are in the box, and you just need to get 2 more 1st downs to kill your opponent, you NEVER let chance have its shot at screwing you up. You put the ball in your playmakers’ hands (NOT JP, at ALL) and let them make the play. Freddy and ML fumble alot less % wise than JP does.
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
Exactrly right
JP should never have had the chance to fumble that ball away. You simply can’t call that play when you have JP Losman at QB, just like you couldn’t call it if you have Rex Grossman or Ryan Fitzpatrick. Bad players make bad plays. If we had a guy named Peyton, Tom or Ben, or even Chad, you can understand the playcall a little bit just because those guys won’t make that kind of mistake. In our case, Losman should never have the ball in his hands in a crucial moment like that. At that point you run the dang ball and try to pick up the first with what has been working all day. It was 2nd and 5 Dick and Turk, not 2nd and 12 or 3rd and 7. 2nd and 5!!! Run it twice to try to get the 5 yards, and if you can’t, you deserve to lose or at least deserve to have to rely on your D for the win. NEVER rely on an unreliable player like that, especially in a situation where it’s not even NECESSARY!!!!
This coaching staff is just frustrating as all he!!. Talent-wise, the Jets aren’t better than this team and neither are the Dolphins, but their coaching isn’t nearly as bad, and in the Dolphins case it’s pretty good. Yet another season where coaching kills us. Cleveland, SF, Jets 2 were all coaching mistakes, and the first Jets and both Dolphins games weren’t much better. Unbelievable that this garbage can continue….
~K
In our case, Losman should never have the ball in his hands in a crucial moment like that.
Perhaps, more accurately, Losman should never have the ball in his hands. End of sentence. It’s almost like as soon as the ball is snapped, any connection between his brain and his body is severed. And this isn’t a comment on that last play, it’s a comment on his life in general. I, for one, don’t see any reason why J.P. “Forrest Gump” Losman should start another game for this team, regardless of Trent’s health. (I’m sorry, that last comment wasn’t particularly fair to Forrest Gump – he actually accomplished quite a few remarkable things).
As far as having this garbage continue, it would appear that it’s going to continue into the forseeable future. Schefter stated again today that Jauron has an extension signed. And while I wouldn’t necessarily call Ralph “cheap,” I certainly don’t see him paying Jauron for three more years if he’s not gonna be in Buffalo.
I'm beginning to agree we won't see them fire Jauron, but...
I think he could be put in a situation similar to the one Wade Phillips was put in. They could ask him to fire Turk, and if he wouldn’t, it would cost him his job. Thoughts?
by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 15, 2008 7:07 AM EST reply actions
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