Observations from New Jersey
This post will read like a Krytime style brain dump.
- I sent Brian a text message as I was leaving the meadowlands that read something like: "I've never felt more ashamed wearing a Bills jersey." I think I would have felt more comfortable wearing nothing but a thong while leaving that stadium.
- I've seen people post comments along this line of thinking and having checked it out for myself I will second it. Blake Costanzo is a monster on special teams. Just watching him on the coverage units was great. I recommend to anybody taking in a live game from here on out to watch him out there.
- Losman held the ball for an eternity, but he had the time to do it. Lost in this game is the fact that the Bills o-line looked pretty good. Jenkins was almost a non-factor and Marshawn and Freddie had a great day, Losman didn't get sacked nearly as many times as I thought he would, or even should have in this game.
- I was amazing Jets fans near me by correctly guessing the Bills plays with amazing accuracy, before they even broke the huddle. "Let's see it's 3rd and 3, I see 3 wide and J.P. in the shotgun, pass play." Whoa what do ya know, I was right.
- Not that long ago I saw Marshawn being called average. Watching him move the pile, take 2, 3, or even 4 guys to take him down, I think we can say that Marshawn is a special back. The last 5 weeks Lynch has run for 490 yards on 92 attempts. considering that one of those games was the Miami stinker, I would say that he is as good as advertised, if not better.
- Did J.P. throw a single pass longer than 10 yards down the field? He had tons of time and I saw Lee Evans open on most of those plays, but he always seemed to check the ball down. I thought that the one thing the J.P. brought to the table that Trent doesn't is a big arm, and the ability to throw it down the field.
- Furthering that last point, is a little more J.P. vs Hamdan debate. Hamdan is the more accurate of the two. when he won the NFL Europe MVP, he finished with a 63% completion percentage. Accuracy is his strength, J.P.'s strength is his ability to throw the ball down the field. if you aren't going to let Losman throw it long, wouldn't Hamdan then be a better fit for what the Bills are trying to do on offense? I think I said it before, if not I've certainly thought it before, This offense is designed for Trent Edwards,and what he can do as the QB when healthy. Hamdan is more like Trent then J.P. is. Wouldn't it then make sense to let Hamdan have a shot? Losman doesn't fit well into this offense and it shows. Hopfeully Trent is healthy next week and my argument is moot.
- Finally, I will simply call it "The Play". After it happened, I spent the next 2 hours in disbelief at what I just saw, and telling my uncle how stupid that play was, and how I couldn't fathom how it is that the Bills could think that it was smart to throw a pass there. Eventually I think that he had enough and he looked over at me and said, "Well you know that hindsight is 20/20." And you know what? He is 100% correct. If the Bills complete that pass, the game is all but over. It's easy to kill the coaching staff because we know what the outcome of that play was. But I can see the logic in calling for a pass there.
That said I would have run Lynch right down the Jets throats. They had yet to prove that they could stop him, and I would have given them two more chances to prove that they could. It's like we scream for Turk and Dick to be more aggressive, and they choose the worst possible time to do it.
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Agreed sireric
But here is one thing, there is being aggressive, and being stupidly aggressive. How can anyone think giving the ball to JP and telling him to win the game instead of to Lynch immediately is smoking or trying to sell you something. As soon as that play started and JP kept it, my heart fell into my stomach. If he had handed it to Lynch, I could have lived with it, especially after the oline dominated on the ground all game.
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
by WABillsfan on Dec 14, 2008 10:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was stupid aggeresive. I see what he was thinking, but I don’t agree that it was the way to go.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Dec 14, 2008 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not the only stupid play call...
The fake punt call in the 1st quarter was stupid. Not so much faking a punt there, but the call for Ellison to run. If the Jets could tackle, that play fails miserably. It didn’t fool anybody. Just because it worked doesn’t make it a smart call
Southern PA (and Poz) Bills Fan
by ChipShot on Dec 15, 2008 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ashamed?
Sireric must not get to too many Bills games if that’s the most ashamed he’s been leaving one of their gems…
That said, the Bills have created a new emotion in me this season, after I believed this team had covered the gamut of negative emotions over the past decade. That emotion is humiliation. After a 5-1 start, to be 6-8 is humiliating to everyone who class themsel;ves fans of this team.
Southern PA (and Poz) Bills Fan
by ChipShot on Dec 14, 2008 11:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1 a year if I’m lucky. (Lucky???)
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Dec 14, 2008 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This post will read like a Krytime style brain dump.
haha. Those are actually some of my favorite fanposts. I fell like these posts that talk about a bunch of things always create a lot conversation and debate.
“Let’s see it’s 3rd and 3, I see 3 wide and J.P. in the shotgun, pass play.”
How often are the Bills in a shotgun formatiion on 3rd and 3 or 4? About 80-90%? To me, Turk’s biggest flaw is his over reliance on the shutgun. It’s what leads to his predictability and I think it is part of the reason he abandons the run too much as well.
I would say that he [Marshawn Lynch] is as good as advertised, if not better.
I agree, Beastmode is even better than I thought he would be and I loved him when the Bils drafted him.
Furthering that last point, is a little more J.P. vs Hamdan debate. Hamdan is the more accurate of the two.
Maybe a little. Is 63% playing in Europe all that impressive? Losman was right around that same percentage in 2006 and 2007, playing against infinitely better competition. Hamdan only completed 52% of his passes in college. If Hamdan is more accurate, and he might be, the difference is probably pretty marginal.
if you aren’t going to let Losman throw it long
I’m sure that Turk called plenty of plays where WRs ran deep routes. When the QB doesn’t take shots down the field, that is on the QB, not the coaching staff. Coaches don’t tell QBs to ignore WRs when they are running deep routes.
by kaisertown on Dec 14, 2008 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure that Turk called plenty of plays where WRs ran deep routes. When the QB doesn’t take shots down the field, that is on the QB, not the coaching staff. Coaches don’t tell QBs to ignore WRs when they are running deep routes.
Guys were open, J.P. missed them. But from everything that we’ve seen from J.P. the last few years, for him to not take at least one shot deep is odd.
Maybe a little. Is 63% playing in Europe all that impressive? Losman was right around that same percentage in 2006 and 2007, playing against infinitely better competition. Hamdan only completed 52% of his passes in college. If Hamdan is more accurate, and he might be, the difference is probably pretty marginal.
Maybe I overstated it a little. Maybe the diference between the two is slim, (as far as accuracy goes) But the last two years J.P. hasn’t looked like an NFL QB. And I for one am tired of seeing him and his same old routine stink it up.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Dec 14, 2008 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think one of the main reasons Losman does not take those deep shots is because that was his MO for so long in Buffalo, and the one thing he was roasted about the most; that he held the ball too long looking for that deep route to develop, and when it didn’t he would get sacked because he held the ball too long. Now he just holds the ball too long looking for the short dump off…
by pozzed51 on Dec 15, 2008 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you made it out there alive...
What’s wrong with wearing a thong? The flexibility is amazing….
by krytime on Dec 14, 2008 11:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There were some fat guys without their shirts on. I might have blended in with them.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Dec 14, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you look at our game thread posts,
many of us were saying run, run it, and run it some more. You did not need a crystal ball to know putting the ball in JP’s hands was a bad idea. If he could be counted on to make those plays in critical situations, he would still be the QB.
by Joe P. on Dec 15, 2008 1:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Loved the description about Lynch.......
however the last few weeks (since the CLE game) He’s been atrocious…..at catching the football…he’s had a horrible case of the dropsies……..I hope he gets that figured out soon
PIPE DREAM: Jim Harbaugh for the Bills next head coach.
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 15, 2008 1:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don’t know if you stayed long enough, but is it true that Marshawn was inconsolable on the bench after the game and pretty much didn’t leave the field because he was so distraught??? Poor guy, gives his all week in, week out, only to have his bozo coaches not trust him with the ball in the most crucial of situations for whatever reason. I would be sick if I were him and it sounds like he is. He and many others don’t deserve the “leadership” they receive….
~K
by Kurupt on Dec 15, 2008 1:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
really, K? You heard this?
Where did you hear this? It BREAKS MY HEART to hear this. ML gives everything he has to this sorry organization. And now he’s had enough? So much for re-building…
Sweet home Orchard Park.
by thurman on Dec 15, 2008 5:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As soon as J.P. through that last pick I was gone.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Dec 15, 2008 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was a fun game to watch.
lots of exciting plays.
i don’t care that they didn’t win – that happens a lot around OBD.
at least it was entertaining…..and thats all i look for now when watching the Bills.
if we were all “true” bills fans – we’d want them to lose out anways in this same situation because they did enough to win. didn’t get blown out. it was fun to watch AND its helping our draft pick slot.
here’s hoping for C or DE!
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Dec 15, 2008 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was sitting next to a Bills fan who was rooting for the Jets, so that the Bills would get a better draft pick. I refuse to do that. I want the Bills to win out.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Dec 15, 2008 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
I don’t know how anyone can openly root for the Bills to lose in order to get a draft pick. Makes little sense to me. If they do lose, fine, I don’t get as upset as I do with early season losses, but there is absolutely no way for me to root against my favorite team. It hurts to even think about it. Not to mention the fact that a higher draft pick means nothing except more guaranteed money and more chances for criticism. Does anybody really trust this team to make a good draft pick anyways? We haven’t made a good top 10 pick since….Bruce Smith maybe??
~K
by Kurupt on Dec 15, 2008 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody really trust this team to make a good draft pick anyways?
lol – no
but i do root for them to lose once the season is over as long as it is in this fashion. if they get dominated then i have a problem.
my problem is i’m always looking for upgrades – and if losing provides that (whether it be firing of coaches, front office people, or players) then i’m all for it.
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Dec 15, 2008 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not for a better draft pick, but...
I wasn’t rooting for the Bills to lose exactly, but I didn’t mind if they lost. Not for a better draft pick, especially since we have been screwing up those more often than not. (A higher pick also costs Ralphie kmore cash!) But for the reason that if we would win out, then Ralphie has an excuse to bring back the coaches. Toward the end of the game however, I was pissed we let the Jets off the hook. We had a chance to ruin their season, and Favre’s, and he deserved to have it ruined yesterday.
Let’s face it: some our recent draft picks have been flat-out miserable. We know about
Donahoe’s failures, but these recent ones can’t be blamed on him. Hardy? Miami has an undrafted free agent WR that is tearing up the league named Devone Bess. He seems to be able to learn and run routes. Chris Ellis? As pathetic as our pass rush is, he is inactive most weeks. How good can he be? We passed on drafting LB Dan Connor to get Ellis in the 3rd round. What for? McCargo? Enough said there.
Southern PA (and Poz) Bills Fan
by ChipShot on Dec 15, 2008 11:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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