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Jauron on the hot seat in public eye, media (buffalobills.com)

Buffalo Bills head coach Dick Jauron stood in front of the media yesterday and answered questions about his team, his job status and his apparently-just-signed contract extension. It doesn't come as a big surprise that Jauron's biggest antagonist yesterday - or, really, since he arrived here - was Jerry Sullivan of The Buffalo News; Sullivan took some heat from local talk radio programs for asking insipid, repetitive questions at yesterday's press conference. Before we get to the myriad of stories surrounding everyone's favorite topic of conversation today, here's how Jauron responded to the most interesting part of yesterday's press conference, followed by how he should have responded...

Q: What assurances have you gotten that you’ll be back next season?
DJ:
Well we haven’t really talked about it so in that regard I suppose not and there has also been no indication I won’t be.
What DJ should have said
: Well, I got a Christmas card from Ralph. Does that count?

Q: There’s a report that you have signed a contract. Have you signed a contract?
DJ:
Well you know the answer to that. We don’t talk about contracts and I certainly don’t talk about them.
What DJ should have said
: Haven't I answered this question 12 times per week since October?

Q: What’s your rationale behind not talking about it?
DJ:
I’m clearly not the one and it would be irresponsible for me to respond to that.
What DJ should have said
: Well, Jerry, one of the best parts of my job is the ability to irritate you to no end. Oh, and for the four hundredth time, IT'S AGAINST CLUB POLICY.

Q: Do you think you’ll be here in the next two weeks, a month, next season?
DJ:
I would anticipate that I would be yes.
What DJ should have said
: If I am, I'd love to see the look on your face when you hear the news. Talk about motivation...

Q: Are you saying you might have signed a contract?
DJ:
I’m not saying anything.
What DJ should have said
: Are you saying you don't believe everything ESPN reports? Blasphemer.

Q: You’re not going to address it either way?
DJ:
Right.
What DJ should have said
: Nailed it! Have a cookie.

Q: You’re not denying it?
DJ:
I’m not saying anything about it.
What DJ should have said
: Do you realize how stupid you sound? It's like you're channeling the brain waves of our backup quarterback.

Q: Do you anticipate that you will be here next season?
DJ:
I do. I do at this point.
What DJ should have said
: Deja vu! Glitch in the Matrix!

Q: Whose rule is it that you don’t talk about the contract?
DJ:
It’s from inside the organization.
What DJ should have said
: Well, I've told you it's an organizational rule for three months now... hasn't sunk in... hmmm... it comes from the CIA. No, wait. Wait, yeah, it's definitely an organizational rule.

Q: It’s an organizational rule?
DJ:
Right.
What DJ should have said
: Yes. That's o-r-g-a-n-i-z-a-t-i-o-n-a-l. Big boy word.

  And after all of that, Sullivan writes an article about how fans are mad. Got a lot of quality material for that one, Sully.

Star-divide

  The big news, of course, is that Jauron expects to be back next season. Don't read into this like everyone else is, folks - Jauron is basically saying that as of this moment, he has no reason or indication from Mr. Wilson to think otherwise, so he's going to continue on business as usual.

  Of course, no matter what Jauron says or believes, the popular opinion is that we're going nowhere with Jauron.

  Hey! Bob Matthews writes a sensible article here, stating that the Bills would be wise to make an official statement on Jauron's status sooner rather than later. Thanks for not just stating the obvious, Bob.

  There's a strange belief out there that Jauron's now-infamous play call from Sunday will cost him his job. Consider it the icing on the cake if you'd like, but a franchise would be crazy to fire someone because of one bad play call.

  Of course, not everyone's out to kill Jauron in the media these days. WGRZ's Ed Kilgore very intelligently points out that Jauron isn't the only problem; I prefer the term "scapegoat", but I'm not going to throw that word into Kilgore's mouth. Our very own 'J2' defended the infamous play call yesterday, and this Madden-playing non-blogger agrees.

I know it's what you want to talk about, folks. Consider this your Dick Jauron open thread for the day.

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makes me want to vomit. I’m soooooooo sick of hearing his name let alone his mundane pressers. The Bills have created such a mess with this whole contract ext/no contract ext topic and now they have backed themselves into a corner.
while sullivan does come off as a pompous his point in the questioning was to make the organization’s stance on the contract situation look dumb, even if it made himself look dumb. I tend to agree with him on this point.

by gatornation on Dec 16, 2008 8:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m right there with you.

For the record, I’m hearing that it’s 50-50 at this point on whether Jauron returns or not. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 16, 2008 8:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

while sullivan does come off as a pompous his point in the questioning was to make the organization’s stance on the contract situation look dumb, even if it made himself look dumb. I tend to agree with him on this point.

Kind of a dumb point on Sully’s part, then, as the situation already looked dumb, and it was already public knowledge.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 16, 2008 8:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish he had a more fun name to say and type….something like Archbold Featherstone, Shadow Stevens, Brian Fantana (or any of the Anchorman names), etc….

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 16, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you know how Sullivan is though. he will hammer his point home no matter how many people already know. I guess in the type of job he has it has to suck continually writing about a crappy team. I think you’re intimately aware of that now.

really at this point I am numb to the whole situation. the jets game I told myself that I wouldn’t get mad if they lost.. Until they lost the way that they did.

by gatornation on Dec 16, 2008 9:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

re

There’s a strange belief out there that Jauron’s now-infamous play call from Sunday will cost him his job. Consider it the icing on the cake if you’d like, but a franchise would be crazy to fire someone because of one bad play call.

Exactly.

Yep let’s just fire the coach cuz that will solve everything. Just like it did with the last 3 firings. Come on, can’t people be more sensible than just blame it all on Jauron? Just like everyone just blames the whole country on Bush? There’s a lot more to it than the figure-head. Like the senile owner, Brandon, Schonert, and oh yeah those 53 players that actually play. I’m so sick of this crap. People that think canning this guy is going to miraculously make us a playoff team don’t know the Ralph I know

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 16, 2008 9:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

People that think canning this guy is going to miraculously make us a playoff team don’t know the Ralph I know

I think you can him if you have an upgrade. Thats the only way – engage in talks behind the scenes with a Cowher and gauge his interest. or even another high profile coach.

If not – then stick with DJ.

If you can upgrade any position on a team you should do it – whether it be coaches, FO or players.

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Dec 16, 2008 9:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have no problem with defending that play call, but I think its disingenuous to suggest that call alone is cause for Jauron’s dismissal. That play-call is emblematic of a lot of what many Bill’s fans I believe find frustrating with this team and Jauron. It is exhibit A in a long list of poor game time decisions and questionable play calling and bad time management that extends throughout Jauron’s tenure as coach. There is a pattern here that likely extends to Jauron’s time before coaching the Bills.

So defend him if you must (and personally I’m not sure what the right thing to do is) but I for one am sick and tired of the Bills nortorious ability to find ever more excruciating and tortuous ways to lose games. If there is an “art of losing”, the Bills have mastered it.

by Zumone on Dec 16, 2008 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

MARV, you seem like a sensible guy..

During the Bye week they should have worked on getting Marshawn to be the focus of the game plans going forward. They had 2 full weeks to look at tape and see the level of predictability we were putting out there. Yes we were 5-1 but it sure as hell was not a very pretty 5-1, late game comebacks should not be the foundation of your game planning. It’s Jauron’s fault for not guiding his coordinators. The coordinators work for him, not the other way around.

Then after the Miami debacle they should have re-adjusted – but they didn’t.
Then after the BRETTS debacle where Marshawn got a whopping 16y, Did Jauron adjust anything? Nooooo
By the time we played NE, it was hopeless to be a Bills fan because we were being guided by a blind man. Oblivious to what the job of a head coach really is and that’s to put your team in the best position to win football games.

Marshawn did not magically change in recent weeks, what changed was that the pressure to feed him the ball was so great that they actually kept feeding him the ball, more than 12 times and low and behold he started taking control of games and carrying the team on his back because that is exactly what he is, a franchise “FEATURE” running back.

Jauron should lose his job because he is not a HC, period. He has had 3 years in which to showcase what he clearly does not have and that is game smarts, a solid grasp for both sides of the ball, a clear vision of what he wants to accomplish and more importantly he has demonstrated over and over again that he is clueless at knowing how to prepare a team for a situational battle.

by keysh67 on Dec 16, 2008 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

keysh – hasn’t Jauron coached for 7 years and has had 7 losing seasons? i’m pretty sure thats about right.

and yes……..time to peace out DJ. But i just hope they hire a better coach….it scares me on what they would do

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Dec 16, 2008 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure about years and losing seasons, but I distinctly remember a 13-3 season that throws those numbers off.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 16, 2008 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe it was 7 losing and 8 seasons? thats why i asked i’m not sure

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Dec 16, 2008 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea i just looked at wikipedia – if you don’t count the Lions he has had 8 seasons with 7 losing. i was pretty sure it was 7 losing, just not so sure on the number of seasons he coached

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Dec 16, 2008 10:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the one thing

I’ll say in his defense, is he really has not had a QB in either stop. With the bears it was Shane Matthews, Cade McNown, Henry buris, Kordel Stewart. Not exactly Future Hall of Famers. You see in the NFL, some guys take jobs just cuz its the best they can get. You have to get lucky and find a franchise QB to make your career successful. If Couglin and Manning were to be futile 1 more year, Coughlin probably would never have seen another gig. But you have to ahve that QB. If Trent Edwards becomes the real deal, regardless of who the coach is besides Mike Mularkey, the Bills will be successful. It doesn’t matter how good of a coach you are if your QB is Dan Orvolsky, Daunte Culpepper, Todd Collins, Alex Van Pelt, Shane Matthews, etc

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 16, 2008 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Collins looked great last year in the 4 game stretch
63.6pct, 5TD, 0INT Rating of 106.4

I was surprised that he resigned to be a backup and that Jon Gruden didn’t come after him!

But specifically to your comment, I think Jauron is so uneasy with the offensive side of the ball that he tends to focus on Defense much more. Also, His drafts seem to gravitate a lot towards DBs, which can be explained by the Tampa 2 fascination. I guess what I am saying is that he really is a DC and not a true HC candidate and that’s his down fall. Had he really wanted to focus on a real QB, he would have. Look at Lovie Smith, he’s had crapola at QB for years and he never drafted any QB (At least none of consequence)

by keysh67 on Dec 16, 2008 12:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true

I can see that argument. I think Greg Williams, Mike Mularkey, and now Jauron you could say the same. Maybe they just aren’t HC material. Or maybe you just can’t succeed under Ralph Wilson? I don’t know. Ralph is crazy man. Why doesn’t he have guys from the glory years in the FO scouting, doing PR, helping run the team now? Why not have Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Tasker, Beebe, and these guys more involved directly with the team? Not just some puppets to help sell tickets on billboards?

I think we can all agree regardless of what we think on Jauron, this organization is completely flawed by their 90 year old owner. I wish he would just publicly admit what his intentions are, why he is so hardup to not let this franchise succeed, why he won’t let go if he doesn’t want to give the team to his family. Why not sell it?

So many questions, so few answers. It’s all just enough to make you wanna quit on this team, because they don’t seem committed to winning

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 16, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not everyone thats was a "great" player makes a great coach...

Hell look at most of the great coaches that were former players: Jeff Fisher, John Fox etc………werent exactly Star-Studded ALL PRO players…

so just because Jimbo and Co were all great players…that doesnt mean they could motivate and coach for a lick…..

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not saying that

they should coach. But they can be good talent evaluators, influences on strength training and conditioning, individual player development, using their names for marketing and PR, helping players adjust to life int eh NFL. There is a helluva a lot more that goes into an organization that just coaching.

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 16, 2008 12:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The same happenned with the Canadians

I am from Montreal and was a huge Canadians Fan growing up and when they let Guy Lafleur leave I completely lost respect for the organization. The let guys like Larry Robinson, Steve Shutt, Guy Lafleur, Lapointe, even Gainey left but eventually came back. They were awful and disrespectful.

I completely stopped supporting the team in 1986, the year they let Lafleur leave.
=====
In my opinion it shows very little class as an organization.

by keysh67 on Dec 16, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Keysh67, I seem to be agreeing with your point of view on just about everything lately.

The Sabres did the same thing with Gilbert Perreault.

by thefourwinds on Dec 16, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At this point

Anything would be better

by keysh67 on Dec 16, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good points

I hear where your coming from. But you also have to realize this OL did not start opening up running lanes until the Cleveland game. Jason Peters’ looked like a patsy up until that game. Since Cleveland, the Bills have run the ball tremendously because I fire was lit under the huge asses of that O-Line. Marshawn never wavered at all. But what clearly happened is that they dropped 8 in the box, made Edwards beat them, and he couldn’t do it.

Jauron has a lot of positives. He has done well with the personnel overhaul, is a sound defensive coach, and the players love playing for a guy that will stick up for them no matter what. But you may be right, he may just not be Head coaching material. I still firmly believe however, if an OC with experience and competency were to come in, and let Jauron/Fewell run the D and the OC run the O, that Jauron would be just fine as a Head Coach.

All these “in-game” coaching blunders have a lot more to do with a 2nd year signal caller, porour WR’s, and a rookie OC than they do with Dick Jauron

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 16, 2008 10:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good line
Do you realize how stupid you sound? It’s like you’re channeling the brain waves of our backup quarterback.

Thanks, that made me laugh. Actually, I am sick of talking about “the call”, Jauron, Ralf, JP, and on and on……….. I don’t think I have ever been this low on the Bills. I could care less about the Denver game, I mean really, why watch that game (another idea for an article?)? Unless someone can give me a reason to watch, I may just spend time with my family.

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 16, 2008 9:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Joe P. , I can wholeheartedly support you spending more time with your family instead of watching Bills’ games. It seriously will pay you great long-term dividends and probably reduce your (anyone’s) stress level considerably (unless such a person doesn’t like their family much).

I rarely catch a whole game, and sometimes miss all of it. Win or lose, I catch the highlights and read the articles, but avoiding the actual games can have great benefits.

by thefourwinds on Dec 16, 2008 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks,

I usually miss the part of the 1st and/or 2nd quarter of early games. My wife prepares an old fashion Sunday dinner after church. The TV goes off and we eat as a family. I would bend that rule for the playoffs, but have not had to cross that bridge.

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 16, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Got one,

Not many of the games are on TV in my neck of the woods. Even when they are, I want to live blog with you guys, so I jump back to live action. If the Bills win, I go back and watch later. Have not had to do that much.

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 17, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear you man!

I settled that by getting the NFL package so I wouldn’t miss any Bills game.

I never blog on game day, because I watch almost every game from PVR so that I can skip the adds and boring commentary (not all but some)

by keysh67 on Dec 17, 2008 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way Brian,

I like the new ads. I can’t decide whether to buy the R/C airplane or the mail order Russian girl? Maybe I will ask my wife :-)

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 16, 2008 9:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You should go with the Russian chick.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 16, 2008 10:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no doubt

If they all look like the hottie in the ad it’s a no-brainer.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 16, 2008 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but the cost of shipping on a Russian chick is brutal!!!!

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 16, 2008 10:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wall Monkeys!

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 16, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sad But True......

Juron is undoubtably a nice person. He is a stand up guy that will take 100% of the blame when it’s not 100% his fault.

However, one cannot turn a blind eye to the travisties that have been committed in the play calling, overall gametime decisions, as well as the tone that he sets for his players. His decisions are suspect at best, and I never agreed with the tone he sets on the field from day one.

When I saw Loseman walk off the field after that horrid play, he didn’t look angry, or hesitant to get on the sidelines; that’s because he knows rather than the coaches getting angry at him, and light him up they’ll say “The ball bounces funny sometimes”!!!!!! If I hear that 1 more time I’m gonna loose it! It’s a loser mentality.

There is very little fire from this team, and the little fire they do generate comes from the players themselves. Imagine if our GM/Coaching staff had some fire in them as well, and subsequently, having the players feed off of that.

In closing, from the interviews I have heard with Juron, he is a stand up guy. Unfortunately, that’s not enough. He has to STOP giving us reasons to want him gone.

by DernDern on Dec 16, 2008 10:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

JP didn't look miffed at all. But he knew he was goign to get the ball back...

Then he threw a pick…. and still didn’t look miffed!!!!!!!!!!!! That bothered me more.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 16, 2008 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I looked like he was holding back from crying during the interview

When he said that he should have thrown it away. He really ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed!

by keysh67 on Dec 16, 2008 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s a strange belief out there that Jauron’s now-infamous play call from Sunday will cost him his job. Consider it the icing on the cake if you’d like, but a franchise would be crazy to fire someone because of one bad play call.

Didn’t the Bills fire their special teams coach, I believe his name was Bruce Dehaven, after the Music City Miracle? This is right along those same lines. If Ralph wants to fire Jauron because of this play it wouldn’r surprise me. He’s done it before.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 16, 2008 10:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It’s also not just one play in Jauron’s case. It is the icing on the cake here, a cake made up of numerous coaching blunders, game mismanagement, clock errors, overconservatism, etc…

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 16, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

truer words have never been spoken.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The point was that the article insinuated in its lead that it was THE PLAY that should get Jauron fired – and that’s a dumb argument. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 16, 2008 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t one play get Dehaven fired?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 16, 2008 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe, but it’s far easier and more commonplace to scapegoat an assistant (see: Cottrell, Ted in SD this year) than a head coach. And it’s still stupid.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 16, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As a wise man once said.........

Stupid IS as Stupid DOES…….

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Forrest Gump is indeed wise.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 16, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you think he woulda called a play action pass in that situation?

He’s a former football player too lol!

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, he’d give Leo a run for his money as our kick returner.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 16, 2008 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tis true.....

“run”

nice pun……

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it is stupid, I’m just saying that Ralph has done it before.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 16, 2008 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't give cake a bad name

I would describe Jauron’s coaching more like an onion. The more your eyes are exposed to it, the more it makes you cry.

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 16, 2008 11:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes but you don’t put icing on an onion. well, unless you are pregnant.

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 17, 2008 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Another good one.

by thefourwinds on Dec 17, 2008 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is about the layers..... see Shriek

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by Joe P. on Dec 17, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Shrek. My kids keep me up on these things.

by XtrmeCarnage82 on Dec 17, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, good one.

by thefourwinds on Dec 17, 2008 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sullivan

I listen to the guy sometimes on my way home when he is on with Shope (did I spell that right?) and the Bulldog in ROchester on 950AM. I hate listening to him. I am glad I live in Rochester and don’t have to read his garbage. He is negative to be negative. He said this last night on the show,

“Even if the Bills start 8-0 next year I will still call for his firing every week until he is gone.”

What a piece of crap this guy is.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 16, 2008 11:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

And the funny part about that ridiculous stance is it’s just because Sullivan is a child who plans on throwing a hissy fit until he gets his way. The new Batman action figure and achieving a firing of a head coach are equal goals in Sully’s mind, and he’ll do as much crying as possible to get either.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 16, 2008 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You know atleast if Jauron DOES stay next year I know not to get my hopes up AT ALL....

so thats a plus……….

I’ll be more sedated about this team then George Bush after Thanksgiving dinner.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 12:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Hissy Man

I was not impressed when Marv hired Jauron, having known his record and how boring his teams were in Chicago. It’s been the same here…….BUT…….yes, listening to a juvenile Buffalo News columnist (Sullivan) exhibit a mean-spiritness that’s uncalled-for makes me secretly hope Jauron stays, produces a winner and makes that idiot eat crow!

However, it’s hard to picture that scenario. Regarding the Bills, it’s hard to be optimistic with ANY scenario, at this point in time.

by ccthemovieman on Dec 16, 2008 12:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

thinking out loud

The only time I got excited over the Bills announcing a ew head coach when they hired CHUCK KNOX, a proven winner in the NFL. He didn’t disappoint, either, elevating Buffalo immediately.

I mention that because, unless a miracle happens and we sign Bill Cowher or a huge college winner like Urban Meyer, it’s hard to get pumped over a change unless it’s a dramatic one.

 Then again, anything is better than missing out on the playoffs year after year. Regarding Jauron, how long to you keep accepting mediocrity? Between you and me, I think all of our wishes – on both sides of the coaching controversy – right now are a moot point. I think Jauron signed his contract extention months ago, will be back, and will be fired after next year after another disappointing season. That’s how I see it; hope I’m wrong.

by ccthemovieman on Dec 16, 2008 12:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I seriously doubt Urban Meyer will EVER come to the NFL......

just look at Butch Davis, Steve Spurrier, Nick Saban etc………I think he can look around at his peers and realize his strength is in the college game. His offensive philosophy doesnt really translate to the NFL game – now his motivational game DOES translate, but I’d think he would be hard press to just hand over his offense to someone else….He’s too much of a hands on guy.

PIPE DREAM: Jim Harbaugh for the Bills next head coach.

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't imply we would go after him or vice-versa

I just threw out Meyer a “big name” college coach as someone who might get me pumped. He was just used as an example.

by ccthemovieman on Dec 16, 2008 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well you dont have to sell me on a big name college coach.......just look at my sig..

but I think it has to be someone who doesnt run a gimmicky type of offense…..

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By the Way Jauron did sign that 3-year contract

Ok we get tricky Dick for 3 more years. I can’t believe that the Front office would sign this guy for another 3 years. After 3 years of losing come on take a hint!!! This guy is a loser and always will be one. Everyone in that front office don’t have any idea on how to run a football team.

by jimmyet80 on Dec 16, 2008 12:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Someone before mentioned Fox and Fisher as former players now coaches. Remember, we could have interviewed Fox (or Marin Lewis) but went with Williams.

Anyway, my point was that both coaches have systems that frankly would fit in perfectly here in Buffalo. They rely on a veteran QB to minimize mistakes, lean on a 2-headed running game behind a physical offensive line, and also have a defense that not only makes stops when needed, but is physical at the point of attack and can put pressure on the QB from anywhere on the field and force turnovers as needed and most importantly keep your team in the game, even with the offense is putrid.

My argument will always be, for as much as Jauron stinks, we don’t have the talent, especially on defense to even be in Tennessee or Carolina’s league. Mediocre coaching + average/sub-par talent = what we have now in Buffalo.

by sabre74kkn on Dec 16, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah dropped the ball on John Fox eh?

his style woulda been great in Buffalo.

PIPE DREAM: Jim Harbaugh for the Bills next head coach.

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Supposedly Williams out-interviewed Fox, Lewis and another candidate whom I can’t recall …

by sabre74kkn on Dec 16, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

considering the type of people that's been in the FO the last few years.......

not really suprised to hear this.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 16, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe it was Bills defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell, who was given a courtesy interview for the HC position since the Bills were one of the top defensive teams during that time. Bye bye Teddy and bye bye 3-4.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 16, 2008 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking today on the commute home...

You can’t truly fault the contract extension. Why? Because at the time it was offered and apparently signed, the team was 5-1, had shown vast improvement; the free agent signings were paying off nicely. At the time, Jauron was at the top of the rock in approval ratings, according to espn.com. He had taken the team up and up in each of his first 3 years. So, to say we all thought it was a bad idea is easy to say once you’ve seen the future. I think the organization thought that doing this was securing success for the team and the fans.

It backfired. Or Billsfired if you’re so inclined.

What would happen if he was released now? What would everyone think as the organization was unable to land the “Zeppelin” of coaches? What if they did land Cowher or Schottenheimer and they gasp don’t do what we all thought they were going to do – create a tough, playoff team?!

Who then, what then, how then – do the Bills fix what ails them? It’s simple: They shave their head, to offer an analogy.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 16, 2008 6:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

But they hadn’t shown vast improvement. At least I never thought so. They were struggling mightily against teams like Oakland and St. Louis. The O struggled for much of those early games, but turned it on in the 4th Q’s.

I don’t know why they didn’t wait a little longer for the season to progress…

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 17, 2008 12:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bills performance early in the season was teeming with red flags, but the wins blinded most people, except Kurupt and a few others (myself included). Inconsistent running game, offense needing dramatics to win over questionable quality of opponents, good but not great defense, no pass rush at all. These aren’t little things. Most knowledgeable fans were waiting for the divisional shoe to drop. And did it ever! It would have been foolish to give the guy an extension prior to the divisional gauntlet; after all, these were the teams blocking the door to the playoffs. Keysh67 is correct in his post below…there was no rush! Now, the Bills are one Patriot-ic loss away from matching the pathetic 1976 Bills in AFC East wins: that would be a big fat zero.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 17, 2008 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

these were the teams blocking the door to the playoffs

any team should be built to win the division. thats how the best do it. to extend him prior to playing any divisional games is borderline criminal to us fans.

now we’re staring 0-6 in the face and as you suggest hasn’t happened in over 20 years.

not to mention we are 0-10 against the pats the last 10 games.

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Dec 17, 2008 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you both,

and felt the same way but thought, “well, they’re winning games they should; winning close games. They’ll figure out what needs to be done to make the engine hum.” Winning games makes most people forgive a team’s shortcomings. Suddenly, they stopped winning those games and never solved their shortcomings.

It’s inexcusable, in my book, that the playcalling was designed to make Edwards the focal point. Had they used Lynch to take some heat off him, we might be talking about things differently.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 17, 2008 10:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My problem with the extension is that it was not required at that moment in time

If it’s true, why? Why rush it? 6 games into the season??

It’s not like Jauron was this "hot commodity that could easily go elsewhere right? The context for him is probably the worse that it could ever be with Cowher, Schotty, Spags, Grimm, Fassel, Heimerdinger all possible options, poor Dicky would not be very popular.

So why rush it? Wait until at least 2/3rds of the season has passed before you tie the knot. It’s not like he did anything spectacular in the first 2 years and that it was simply a formality, he has been MEDIOCRE so why rush into it?

If Mr Wilson has to buy out the contract he should take some of the money from Russ who probably was the one rushing him to re-sign DJ. Russ, you as the COO should know better. You had lots of leverage over Dick and there was no need to rush into things, only negative PR could result from it. And I don’t want to hear the distraction argument because that’s bogus and everyone knows it. Dick Jauron for all his Head coaching deficientcies is a good man, a very honnerable & professional person and would have never let it become a distraction either in the media or with his players.

Pure and simple, Brandon screwed up big time! And you’d think Wilson would have known better too.

by keysh67 on Dec 17, 2008 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

keysh – the reason is our front office is below average.

plenty of examples – but they do things that don’t make sense all of the time.

its very very frustrating watching them do these things

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Dec 17, 2008 9:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Former Bills: where are they?

The reasons are unclear, but Wilson has been stubborn about hiring former players to any aspect of the organization. Van Pelt has been the exception. And I know for a fact, several have been interested, but cannot even get a position working in the scouting department. And that’s really a shame because Guy is clueless when it comes to assessing college talent. Exhibit A: DE Chris Ellis. Remember him? Most weeks he was inactive even when Schoebel was on IR. A OLB named Dan Connor was still on the board when we selected Ellis in the 3rd round. Exhibit B: James Hardy. C: McCargo. And on and on.

Southern PA (and Poz) Bills Fan

by ChipShot on Dec 17, 2008 10:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

First: Guy is PRO-Scout and Modrack is College-Scout

I agree that Dan Connor would have been much better.

You are way to quick to pull the trigger on Hardy. Let’s give him another 1-2 years before we proclaim him to be a bust. Big receivers take time.

McCargo well… All that I can say is that I really wanted Ngata and we had our chance but our brains-trust at the time (Marv, Modrack & Jauron) chose Whitner. What really makes maters worse is when you consider what could have happened next:
a) We stay put at #42 and we could have drafted: Tony Scheffler or Greg Jennings
b) We still trade up and we could have drafted: Nick Mangold or Mathias Kiwanuka

I always liked Marv Levy, he is a stand-up guy. But he screwed-up big time with the 2006 draft. We would not be the same team today had they done their homework better. I definitely blame Modrack the most because it’s his team that builds the draft board and assigns the grading. Not sure that we can blame Marv for it other than thinking that a safety could help us more than a monster NT.

Anyway, I still hope that Wilson guts this team from top to bottom and brings in a guy like Cowher as a Head Coach / GM. We really need a guy who understands football around here cause we really set our team back in 2006! Ask yourself where we’d be today?

by keysh67 on Dec 17, 2008 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I always liked Marv Levy, he is a stand-up guy. But he screwed-up big time with the 2006 draft.

In the spirit of placing blame where it should be placed, you should know that Levy largely deferred to Jauron in that draft. Levy was certainly a part of the decision-making process, but Jauron – just as he does now – makes all final personnel decisions.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 17, 2008 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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