Edwards answers key questions in win over Broncos
Attention Buffalo Bills fans: remain skeptical if you wish, but Trent Edwards is back.
I know what you're thinking. "Well, it was just the Denver Broncos and their terrible defense." "Well, it was just one game." "Well, where was this two months ago?" All of these thoughts remain valid concerns - and the jury is clearly still out on Edwards as far as his future goes - but after watching J.P. Losman bumble and fumble his way into Gibran Hamdan's emergency quarterback position, I'll take any competency at the quarterback position that I can find. Folks, Edwards was more than competent yesterday.
Perhaps most importantly, however, Edwards answered a key question: yes, he can play - and play well - in freezing temperatures.
Yesterday's game in Denver was the second-coldest game played in Broncos franchise history. Let that one sink in a second. Denver has played some cold games in its storied history, and this one was trumped by just one other. That's cold. Edwards, who has been knocked for his shoddy play in cold, blustery weather, calmly completed 68 percent of his passes at 7.7 yards per attempt, threw a touchdown pass to rookie Steve Johnson, didn't turn the ball over once and proved his toughness by getting up after taking several vicious blows.
The strong performance in sub-zero wind chills was the first major step forward for Edwards that we've witnessed in nearly three months. Again, it's only one game, and if the Bills' fall from a 5-1 start taught us anything, it taught us to temper expectations. But even while learning from our past mistakes, it's hard to dilute the fact that Edwards answered several key questions yesterday. He can still make plays. He can play in the cold. He's still very tough under pressure. As Jerry Sullivan so eloquently put it this morning, Edwards' resurgence is something to be excited about. Just don't get too excited.
We talked late last week about whether or not Edwards can still be considered a cornerstone of the franchise. Let's just say that Edwards did nothing to hurt his chances in that department in yesterday's big win.
Oh yeah, and Sullivan? He still doesn't like Dick Jauron... and I'm sure he's not alone there.
Sully may not like Jauron, but Jauron's players clearly do. This quote from LB Kawika Mitchell - he of the key interception yesterday - says it all...
"Everybody reads the media and knows what's going on. So we just know he's been under a lot of heat. He takes good care of us. We wanted to win for ourselves and we really wanted to win for him."
Yesterday's hero? As we discussed yesterday, there were quite a few key performers, but the game-changer was very clearly Fred Jackson. With a "D" pained on his right cheek and a "III" on his left, Jackson shredded the Broncos yesterday, setting up Johnson's score and putting the game-winner in the paint himself. Marshawn Lynch is clearly this team's MVP, but Action Jackson is quite the player himself.
Only the Buffalo Bills can emerge from a game after surrendering over 500 yards of total offense to an opponent and deservedly be excited about their effort. Buffalo was shredded for over 200 yards in the first quarter alone, but several key stops in the fourth quarter sealed the win. It's been a long time since our defense has made the plays to seal a win. Good feeling.
Sal Maiorana at the D&C phrases it correctly when he says the Bills handed their fans a pleasantly unexpected Christmas gift. Well said, Sal.
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I saw it in the first 6 weeks. Edwards takes some vicious hits. He really does. He is a tough SOB. I worry about him taking all those hits, but to see him just bounce back up and the leadership he shows….well it’s just awesome to see our QB do that.
But the stat that I forget who threw it out there on the blog yesterday that the Bills are 7-0 when Trent Edwards/Josh Reed play is pretty amazing. The offense is so much more fluid in the passing game with Reed in there. We still desperately need a pass-catching TE and someone to make plays on the oppositie side of Lee Evans. We need a true #2 outside WR. The sooner we get those two guys the better this offense will be.
Either way, I needed this, we needed this. Even though I have to work today, I have a spring in my step. It was fun to see them play well. It was fun to see Mitchell make an INT and sack. It was fun to see McGee, McKelvin, Corner, Whitner all make big plays. But man, do we need someone, anyone that can rush the passer. But I’ll take it. Now let’s bring on New England
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by MARVelous on
Dec 22, 2008 9:38 AM EST
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Steve Johnson #2?
Do you think we have that #2 in Steve Johnson? I think between him and Reed, we’d leave nary a 1st down on the field. Hardy could also still surprise. We seem to be in the best place receivers wise that we’ve been in since the Andre Reed era,
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Dec 22, 2008 10:25 AM EST
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I was beginning to wonder that as well
Steve’s been solid this far. I really wish that Hardy could come along- you can’t coach size- but if he doesn’t and we get SJ as a consolation prize, I’m really ok with that.
Can someone get Johnson a nickname? I feel like he needs one badly. Steve Johnson makes him sound like a mail boy in an office somewhere.
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on
Dec 22, 2008 10:29 AM EST
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Can someone get Johnson a nickname? I feel like he needs one badly. Steve Johnson makes him sound like a mail boy in an office somewhere.
My buddies and I just exclaim “Steve Johnson!” with both fists in the air, a la Steve Holt on Arrested Development.
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Dec 22, 2008 10:41 AM EST
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I submitted Stevie Wonder as a nickname yesterday, but it didn’t take. Everyone just thought I was calling Johnson blind.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 10:43 AM EST
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Everyone just thought I was calling Johnson blind.
LOL. Yeah that wont work.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Dec 22, 2008 12:37 PM EST
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lol stevie wonderful........
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
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Dec 22, 2008 3:21 PM EST
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Please please
can we let Steve Johnson develop before we start anointing him the #2. Potential? Yes, definitely. But the kid is still averaging just a catch a game.
by twoeightnine on
Dec 22, 2008 11:20 AM EST
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Hang on
I know we all love Steve Johnson and his potential, but let’s be realistic here. He’s a 7th round rookie who only has 10 catches for 102 yards. Let’s not get carried away here. He’s been a pleasant surprise, but in no way does he look like the next big thing in the NFL. I hope he becomes that, but right now he’s a solid, complimentary 3rd/4th WR. That’s great for a 7th round rookie, but it doesn’t mean he’ll become a big time receiver. Again, I hope so, but we can’t expect that yet….
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:17 PM EST
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Agree
although he does look better than Hardy right now.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Dec 22, 2008 12:38 PM EST
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Who doesn't?
Hardy looks terrible running routes and trying to separate….
~K
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Dec 22, 2008 12:43 PM EST
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I think we’re still looking for a #1. Even after overpaying to keep Evans. That play against Dre’ Bly yesterday where he was running a 10 yard hook/out and Bly was blanketing him was pretty bad. Everybody torches Bly and Evans couldn’t even sell a 10 yard out against him. Do people that go to the home games notice if Evans gets open enough, because it sure doesn’t seem that way?
Maybe we don’t need a true #1, but we definitely need someone who’s as big of a threat, or a bigger threat that Evans.
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:10 PM EST
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agreed
I see him as a guy that can learn under josh reed and become a nice safety valve for trent in the middle of the field and a possession guy. But in no way is he a WR #2 or more than a 30-40 catch a season guy ever, IMO. We can hope he would become a 50-60 catch guy but not likely.
I agree with your assessment of Evans. He just isn’t a true #1. We need that big old pass-catching TE to FORCE the Safety over the top to cover him streaking down the middle. That would allos Evans to have 1:on:1 on the outside and make more plays on the 10-15 yard routes, where CB’s have to respect the possibly stop & go routes cuz of his speed
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Dec 22, 2008 12:23 PM EST
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Which is why if he declares, I think Oklahoma TE Jermaine Gresham – if he lasts until our pick – would be the best immediate value selection for our team. Guy’s as sure a bet as anybody as a TE prospect.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:36 PM EST
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I’ve been researching him and have to agree completely with this statement.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Dec 22, 2008 12:40 PM EST
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As much as I’ve been clamoring for Alex Mack, I would be highly pleased with this also.
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Dec 22, 2008 2:40 PM EST
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do you
draft for need or draft the best available player? I think you draft best available player. who knows, Gresham may be the best available when we pick.
by gatornation on
Dec 22, 2008 12:43 PM EST
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Best available, and if it fits the need, do it ASAP.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:44 PM EST
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The age old question
You fill out your board and stick to it. You rate guys who fill a need a little higher then guys who don’t.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Dec 22, 2008 12:46 PM EST
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That's how we got Edwards
The Bills rank everyone from 1-whatever but give need position players extra points before they slot them in. If there is ridiculous value on a pick, they take him like Edwards in round 3 when he was valued to them in the second
by MattRichWarren on
Dec 22, 2008 2:33 PM EST
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Ah… I remember the day we drafted Trent. It’s pretty awesome reading through those comments… man, did J.P. Losman have us fooled.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 2:52 PM EST
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that's
hilarious reading those comments. Kurupt wanted Damion Hughes! Well, needless to say this pick surprised us all but I was well worth the value.
I hate hearing how people don’t like our personnel decisions over the last 3 years….I mean, we haven’t gotten any superstars besides Lynch, but I contend if we keep stacking drafts this organization is heading in the right direction……i.e. reference all the young studs making plays yesterday (Corner, McKelvin, Stevie Johnson, Edwards) Our team is still ridiculously young after all
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by MARVelous on
Dec 22, 2008 3:38 PM EST
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Haha, if you want to see Kurupt embarrassed, check out what he said when the Bills drafted DE C.J. Ah You in the seventh round of the 2007 draft…
This pick is a wasted pick.
There was absolutely no need for a DE. This kid has no shot to make the roster unless we made a trade. I don’t know why would we draft a certain practice squader instead of LB or CB depth.
HA! For anyone who’s joined us since this past April’s draft, Kurupt became an Internet sensation for being a psychotic proponent for drafting a defensive end (namely, Derrick Harvey). See? Opinions change. That’s as bad as me touting Martin Rucker or backing J.P. Losman.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 3:42 PM EST
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great stuff
CJ Ah You….that was a waste.
And I also remember all of us wondering why we resigned Josh Reed and why he is on a NFL roster and now everyone loves the guy!
Brian is Geronimo ever going to come around here anymore or at least in the off-season or did all our negativity turn him off?
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Dec 22, 2008 3:47 PM EST
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My guess is you haven’t heard the last of Geronimo.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 3:51 PM EST
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Hold on. I said he wouldn’t make the team. That’s why he was such a waste. We had 4 veteran DE’s who would make the team over him at that point. Wasn’t I correct?
I never said we were super awesome at DE, just crowded. Don’t you remember that summer when I said Schobel would have no more than 7 sacks? I haven’t liked this pass rush for years!!! It just didn’t seem like a 7th rounder would beat out 4 vets! That’s all I was saying, I swear!!
Haha, Daymeion Hughes. He’s not a terrible player. He’s got more INT’s than good old Whitner this year!
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 23, 2008 1:21 AM EST
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Isn’t the top 15 a bit early for that dude? And it’s definitely too early for the Bills to pick a TE with Mack and some DE’s available….
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:44 PM EST
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Elite tight end prospects are so incredibly rare that you pick them when you can get them. I’d consider this kid Top 5.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:45 PM EST
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I would like to see them trade down and get picks. the more picks the better chance they have of finding an impact player.
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Dec 22, 2008 12:46 PM EST
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Agreed, but not at the expense of missing out on their top guy, whoever that ends up being.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:47 PM EST
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we say that every year!!! I doubt it happens anytime soon!
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:50 PM EST
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I would like to see them trade down and get picks. the more picks the better chance they have of finding an impact player.
Trading down is nice, but you have to find someone willing to trade up into your spot. That’s not always as easy as it sounds, and the last few drafts, that has been harder than ever.
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Dec 22, 2008 2:41 PM EST
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And how often do elite TE prospects work out? That position seems like a crapshoot to me. Not saying Gresham wouldn’t become a superduperstar, but I hate drafting TE’s in the early part of the first round. I’m trying to think of the last time that worked out? Wasn’t Tony Gonzo a pick in the 20’s? I just think TE is a position that you can take in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds and be fine, even if Gresham looks like a future star.
Stupid logic, I know.
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:48 PM EST
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Yeah, you can apply that same logic to any position, really.
I’m not advocating Gresham; I still like the DTs best. But if Gresham is the top guy on their board and he’s available when they pick, I’d hope they take him. He’d be a huge help to Trent.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:49 PM EST
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ok
Hopefully, we’d have filled the need for C and DE in FA then!! I’d be more comfortable that way if they did take a TE early then….
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:52 PM EST
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Hopefully we can rip Birk out of Minn. that would shore up the C position
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on
Dec 22, 2008 12:52 PM EST
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Ironically enough, I interviewed an NFL draft scout recently and asked him to compare Alex Mack to a current NFL center in terms of playing style. His answer? Matt Birk.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:54 PM EST
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really? nice.
He’s my #1 FA in the offseason – on my list at least
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by J2 on
Dec 22, 2008 12:54 PM EST
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We’ll be making a community list, too, so save some of that stuff to share with us. :)
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:55 PM EST
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oh absolutely – i already have pipe dream FA’s
Dansby – TJ whosyourmomma – Birk
Imagine if we could get TJ? ohhhhh buddy
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by J2 on
Dec 22, 2008 1:14 PM EST
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it's not likely
IMO
The Vikes have to keep that OL together and they’d be dumb to let their stud C walk….unless he wants to walk, which I doubt since he’s been there for 10 years or so
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:55 PM EST
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Yeah, but Birk hasn’t kept it a secret that he’s upset that they worked out big deals for Hutchinson and McKinnie and he’s gotten the shaft. It wouldn’t shock me to see him test the waters at all; it also wouldn’t surprise me to see Minnesota franchise him.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:57 PM EST
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yea – but he’s 32. he still has 3 good years left in him probably and they might not want to cough up the dough
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by J2 on
Dec 22, 2008 12:57 PM EST
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that tells me
that Mack is a quality player who can play any position on the line. how invaluable is that?
by gatornation on
Dec 22, 2008 12:55 PM EST
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very valuable – but if we can get our C in Birk and fill a different need in the draft then how could you not?
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by J2 on
Dec 22, 2008 12:56 PM EST
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it's hard to argue with that
but his age scares me a bit. in a couple of years we’ll be looking for another center.
by gatornation on
Dec 22, 2008 12:58 PM EST
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oh absolutely – but i’m looking for short term – it will be DJ’s fourth year – its playoff push time. all or nothing
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by J2 on
Dec 22, 2008 1:00 PM EST
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Your killing me Brian.....killing me!!!!
We could draft the next Matt Birk and you want a TE in round #1…..killing me!!!!
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by Joe P. on
Dec 22, 2008 4:58 PM EST
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I never said I wanted a TE in Round 1. I merely said I wouldn’t hate the pick, because Gresham is going to be outstanding. I’ve already gone on record as saying I want a defensive lineman in the first round.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 9:44 PM EST
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I would HATE the pick
I don’t care if he is 7’4", runs 4 flat, and has 3 arms!!!! We have much bigger problems. Taking a TE in the 1st round is a luxury pick that we can’t afford.
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by Joe P. on
Dec 22, 2008 10:40 PM EST
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How is giving your young QB a target in his developmental stages a luxury pick in any way? Were Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark luxury picks in Indy?
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 10:44 PM EST
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Did they ignore their O-line,
DEs, and LBs to draft them?
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by Joe P. on
Dec 22, 2008 10:51 PM EST
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They ignored their entire defense, Joe. Don’t you remember how Indy’s defense was holding them back from winning championships? Dwight Freeney was the only big-name draftee of the three positions you mentioned while they were drafting Peyton’s weapons.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 11:35 PM EST
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I thought the big knock on Indy
was they couldn’t stop the run? Also, Wayne is a WR, not a TE.
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by Joe P. on
Dec 23, 2008 11:00 AM EST
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…
I know Reggie Wayne is a WR. Just like I know Dallas Clark is a TE.
Yes, Indy’s big knock was they couldn’t stop the run, and my point is that they largely ignored that issue to give Peyton his weapons. So it’s not a completely idiotic notion to ignore a need (center) for a great prospect at a position that would help Edwards develop (tight end).
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 23, 2008 12:00 PM EST
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I love it when the comment boxes get this small.
by thefourwinds on
Dec 23, 2008 1:38 PM EST
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see below,
this is getting to small
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by Joe P. on
Dec 23, 2008 2:28 PM EST
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You just need better glasses. :)
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 23, 2008 3:59 PM EST
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they told you it would hurt your eyesight didn’t they?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Dec 23, 2008 4:11 PM EST
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As much as I stare at computer screens, I’ll be legally blind by age 40.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 23, 2008 4:18 PM EST
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If he had 3 arms, I’d be ticked if we didn’t draft him. I’d be ticked if we didn’t take a 3 armed punter in the 1st round. That’d be incredible!
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 23, 2008 1:23 AM EST
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It would probably be a tiny one
growing out of his chest. “Quaid……start the reactor”
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by Joe P. on
Dec 23, 2008 11:03 AM EST
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And, I’m just filling in the blanks here… when you say “it’s definitely too early for the Bills to pick a TE with Mack and some DE’s available”, you’re proclaiming yourself a draft for need guy, right? :)
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:46 PM EST
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Lets be fair
K has said that this team seems to have a ton of needs yet again, and I agree, so you could consievably take the best player available and still fill a need.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Dec 22, 2008 12:49 PM EST
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Haha, yeah, that’s a fair point.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:50 PM EST
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And those guys aren’t top 15-20 prospects? It’s not drafting for need when you are filling gaping holes like that with a top player. Plus, I’m sick and tired of neglecting these positions, especially DE.
I’m more for taking the guy who will help us the most. I don’t think a TE is that this year, but C and DE sure should be….
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:49 PM EST
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It’s not drafting for need when you are filling gaping holes like that with a top player.
I don’t agree with that. If you’re filling a hole with a draft pick, you’re drafting for need. If you’re filling a hole with the top guy on your board, THEN it’s not drafting for need. Maybe you meant that…
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:51 PM EST
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ok then
FINE!
ha
I meant that.
I don’t like drafting for need when a team takes a guy higher than they probably should because it fills a hole. If a team fills a hole by drafting a guy they have rated high (like Marshawn), ain’t no problem in that! I think that’s what a C or DE would be for this team…obviously
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:55 PM EST
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Wouldn’t it be nice if things just happened that way every time?
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 22, 2008 12:56 PM EST
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Wouldn’t it be nice if we could make the playoffs once??? We love to talk about these things even if they seem remote. OYE!
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:57 PM EST
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I’m sick and tired of neglecting these positions, especially DE.
The Bills took a DE in the 2nd round 3 years in a row. Unfortunatly other then Schobel they pretty much stink.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Dec 22, 2008 12:51 PM EST
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Make that a pass rusher. Taking Kelsay and Denney wasn’t to improve the pass rush, I would hope.
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:53 PM EST
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so
do you think trading back, getting an impact center (mack, luigis, whoever) and an additional 2 or 3rd round pick would be most beneficial for this team? I would take that scenario everytime.
by gatornation on
Dec 22, 2008 12:53 PM EST
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I am, and always will be, all for trading back and picking up more picks. That isn’t always as easy as it sounds. It’s easy to say just trade back, but if nobody wants to trade up….
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Dec 22, 2008 12:54 PM EST
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this year
we should be drafting outside the top 10, which makes our draft position a hot commodity in most years. we shall see.
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Dec 22, 2008 12:55 PM EST
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I would trade down just about every year, if possible….Especially if there is no clear cut top guy at the time of your pick….
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 22, 2008 12:58 PM EST
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The last time the Bills traded down, they shipped their first rounder to Tampa and got Tampa’s 2nd, they then traded that 2nd to Denver and got an extra 4th. so for one pick they essentally got an extra 2nd and 4th.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
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And didn’t they end up w/Clements, Henry and I think Brandon Spoon? That was a nice haul, even Spoon who showed some promise before injuries….
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And Tampa took OT Kenyatta Walker, if I’m remembering correctly. Right?
Who’d we get in that deal?
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I think the most beneficial move for this team is getting the top guy on their board. If you can do it while trading back, all the better.
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Watching Gresham
is fun. He is very fast for his size, and he has great hands.
Sweet home Orchard Park.
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From Lomardi
From Lomardi’s Nationalfootballpost.com diner news:
15. Buffalo is a team full of character players who keep fighting and playing hard, no matter how far behind they get. The win in Denver was very impressive. They made plays when they needed to make them. They weathered the first-quarter storm and maximized their offensive chances.
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I've said it before.....
and i’ll say it again.
we have good pieces in place. If we can pickup two playmakers and have 2 good rookie selections in the draft we will at minimum be second in AFC East next year.
we are solid when healthy – Trent needs to stay in for 16 games and Marshawn needs to also remain healthy.
The “D” needs at least a ball hawk out there.
But we should be solid – a lot is riding on this offseason
who gets fired? (coaches) might be no one……..that is a definate possiblity – especially if we beat NE next week.
Steve Johnson is looking good – but I think we should line him up as #2 next week and see how the kid looks. Put Reed in the slot and run 3 wides.
anyone else happy no more JP? yeaaahhhh – i know you are.
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Let's Get Hamdan on the Field
Perhaps play the whole 2nd half against the Pats? Would really p#@!$ off the Jets, but that’s a plus. We need to know if he can be the backup, as Edwards will always have injuries during the season.
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Yeah, but I’d much rather groom a starter than a backup. Trent needs playing time.
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Yeah Trent’s playing time is more importent then Hamdan’s.
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that's
a terrible idea. Trent needs all the experience he can get, especially at home in dec vs the top team in our division that we haven’t beaten in 10 tries. Hamdan is a 3rd stringer, we need to bring in a veteran QB to be our #2. Someone to help Trent out and play if/when trent gets hurt.
We don’t need to know if hamdan can be the backup. The coaches know what he has or doesn’t. We need to beat New England at home. That would do wonders for this young football team.
And no one thinks Steve Johnson is the 2nd coming of John Taylor, but he does seem like he knows how to get open and catch the ball. He will be a nice possession WR for us to be groomed behind Reed. And we’ll just have to see if Hardy can be that #2 guy. Trent never seemed comfortable with Hardy all year. So Hardy needs to work extremely hard to get Tren’ts confidence in him next summer. It will be interesting to see how Trent does against a good defense with Josh Reed in the lineup. I hope Marshawn can suck it up and play as well as Jason Peters
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I was most impressed with the play of Corner.
He aquitted himself very well with so little playing time. His breakup of that TD pass was huge. I hope he plays next week. Greer is, I’m afraid, a lame duck here just like JP, so even if Greer is healthy, I’d play Corner.
Edwards looked pretty much like the Trent of the early games. Accurate and quick. His deep pass to Freddie was exactly what he needs to do. Trust his receivers to correctly position themselves and make the play. He is a tough SOB. Took some jarring hits.
If anyone needs to get extended next year (other than Jason), it is Freddie. I hope it gets done this offseason. We have one of the best running back duos in the league now. We MUST keep him. Can only have mucho appreciation for his character and work ethic.
Merry Christmas to us.
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Greer is, I’m afraid, a lame duck here just like JP
You may end up being right in that he’s a lame duck, but NO ONE is as big of a lame duck as JP. Greer is an exponentially superior football player compared to Losman. At a very minimum, we’ll try to re-sign Greer.
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I do hope we try to resign him.
Continuity is a key factor in getting to the playoffs. I think that has been a big weak link in not getting there for so long. Speculation is that he will get 6-8 mil per. Unreal. The CB position is sure at a premium. I will cross my fingers.
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I wouldn’t call Greer a lame duck. More like a guy who might be going on to bigger and better things. Lame ducks are guys who deserve to go, at least that’s what I think of when I hear the term!
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thanks K – my thoughts exactly
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re
I feel like you said that with so much conviction Brian:
but NO ONE is as big of a lame duck as JP. Greer is an exponentially superior football player compared to Losman.
JP cannot go soon enough. A guy that just never, ever got “it.” I know it’s pathetic but I’m excited to see us win like that yesterday. Too bad those cle, san fran, mia x 2, nyj games we had to be so pathetic in.
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Too bad those cle, san fran, mia x 2, nyj games we had to be so pathetic in.
If the Bills lose next week, they will be 7-9 for the 3rd straight year, this year however they will be 0-6 in the division. last year they were 7-9 but 4-2 in the division. If they could have at least split with the divison they would have 10 wins. Drives me nuts.
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There is no difference between 10 wins and 7 wins this year........
both types of teams will be sitting at home during the AFC playoffs.
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
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I would rather have 10 wins.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
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I would rather
be stranded on a desert island with Jessica Alba, Scarlett Johansson, and a case of Trojans, but Jauron can’t make that happen either!
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Dec 22, 2008 11:04 PM EST
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If you’re stuck on a desert island, are the Trojans really necessary? You’re probably dead after a while anyways, so have some fun!!! Am I right?
~K
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Dec 23, 2008 1:24 AM EST
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Yes you're right
Unless you are on an episode of LOST.
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I dunno......
it’s a double edge sword…..yeah you get 10 wins…but in the end you’re sitting at home with the other teams that didnt make it……and you get a worse drafting position.
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but NO ONE is as big of a lame duck as JP. Greer is an exponentially superior football player compared to Losman.
I meant to highlight this
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Dec 22, 2008 12:20 PM EST
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Paradox
I can see it now. Headline coming soon. JP Losman – starting QB for the Toronto Argos.
gulp
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scary
what i’m scared of is no one wanting JP and our coaches being stupid enough to bring him in for a backup. that would be scary scary scary scary
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I can guarantee to you with 100% conviction and certainty that Losman is gone after next Sunday.
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Dec 22, 2008 1:06 PM EST
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for the love of god i hope so. thats one of my christmas wishes – to never see JP in a bills uniform again
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Yeah, but I’m saying you don’t have to hope. It’s fact. So Merry Christmas! :)
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Dec 22, 2008 1:10 PM EST
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I Think Sullivan is a an Idiot when it comes to Jauron
However I must admit it fun reading rag.
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Sullivan’s problem isn’t his opinion, it’s his childishness. He’s like that little kid throwing a hissy fit in the toy department at Wal-Mart. When you publicly claim that you’ll still call for Jauron’s firing even if we start 8-0 in 2009, you’re too childish to be sharing opinions on a daily basis.
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Did you happen to catch the Detroit reporter hammering Marinelli about his defensive coordinator who is also Marinelli’s son-in-law? My first thought was that this guy was Detroit’s version of Jerry Sullivan, or Syracuse’s Bud Poliquin. Does ever city have their own version of the jerk sports reporter or what? Where do they find these fools?
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Dec 22, 2008 12:46 PM EST
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Ha, yeah, I think every city has to have one moron by rule. They’re probably not hard to find, either.
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Dec 22, 2008 12:47 PM EST
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And as a clarifying statement, I don’t think Sullivan is a moron by any stretch of the imagination. He knows what he’s talking about; he just acts like a child.
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I think they’re frustrated old-school sport journalists, who think they should be covering sports like it was politics or crime. They also tend to look down on bloggers.
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Dec 22, 2008 12:50 PM EST
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Ah yes… good old Buzz Bissinger.
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They also tend to look down on bloggers.
ummmm….who doesn’t? ;)
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Ow. My pride.
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I think they’re frustrated old-school sport journalists, who think they should be covering sports like it was politics or crime. They also tend to look down on bloggers.
Ah yes, the people desperately clinging to a completely dying industry.
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Sullivan’s high point to me is when he tore up the Raleigh N&O’s Ned “I have never covered sports in my life” Barnett, who wrote an article ripping buffalo sports fans for taking the Sabres too seriously (and in turn insulting Carolina Hurricanes :"fans") during the 06 ECF where Buffalo fans invaded Raleigh for 4 nights and also bombarded his inbox calling him out for his lack of hockey knowledge.
Sullivan’s retort was brilliant, though considering the original article, it wasn’t hard to beat him down as he did.
Outside ot that … meh … kinda agree w/ Brian … doesn’t generally bring anything of substance up very much …
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That guy not only crossed the line, but he redrew it just so he could cross it. That was an absurd question that had no redeeming value. What a POS that guy is….
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Dec 22, 2008 1:02 PM EST
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Edwards played well in the cold
Perhaps most importantly, however, Edwards answered a key question: yes, he can play – and play well – in freezing temperatures.
I am surprised you didn’t add, “I told you so Joe P.” :-) I have never been so glad to be wrong.
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Dec 22, 2008 5:10 PM EST
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I was impressed with Edwards. I think the fact that it wasn’t snowing/raining and blowing at all was also a big factor. I hope he gets more practice in the wind at home before he has to play in another game where it’s blowing.
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Dec 22, 2008 8:04 PM EST
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As the wind blows, so does Edwards?
“Now that is funny right there, I don’t care who you are!”
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Dec 22, 2008 9:02 PM EST
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Who is this Preciptation girl?
And why is she so selfish in bed?
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Colts draft history
The Colts drafted Manning in 1998. They went 13-3 in 1999 and won the SB in 2006. From the time they drafted Manning in 1998 until they won the SB, they drafted 5 offensive players and 4 defensive players #1. I would hardly consider this ignoring the defense. Also, of the day one picks (first 3 rounds), they drafted 9 offensive players and 19 defensive players. In 2000, 2002, and 2005 all 3 picks were spent on defense. I don’t buy your argument.
1998
1 (1, 1) – Peyton Manning, Tennessee, QB
2 (2, 32) – Jerome Pathon, Washington, WR
3 (10, 71) – E.G. Green, Florida State, WR
1999
1 (4, 4) – Edgerrin James, Miami (FL), RB
2 (5, 36) – Mike Peterson, Florida, LB
3 (2, 63) – Brandon Burlsworth, Arkansas, G
2000
1 (28, 28) – Rob Morris, Brigham Young, LB
2 (28, 59) – Marcus Washington, Auburn, DE
3 (29, 91) – David Macklin, Penn State, DB
2001
1 (30, 30) – Reggie Wayne, Miami (FL), WR
2 (6, 37) – Idrees Bashir, Memphis, DB
3 (29, 91) – Cory Bird, Virginia Tech, DB
2002
1 (11, 11) – Dwight Freeney, Syracuse, DE
2 (10, 42) – Larry Tripplett, Washington, DT
3 (9, 74) – Joseph Jefferson, Western Kentucky, DB
2003
1 (24, 24) – Dallas Clark, Iowa, TE
2 (26, 58) – Michael Doss, Ohio State, DB
3 (26, 90) – Donald Strickland, Colorado, DB
2004
2 (12, 44) – Bob Sanders, Iowa, DB
3 (5, 68) – Ben Hartsock, Ohio State, TE
3 (6, 69) – Gilbert Gardner, Purdue, LB
2005
1 (29, 29) – Marlin Jackson, Michigan, DB
2 (28, 60) – Kelvin Hayden, Illinois, DB
3 (28, 92) – Vincent Burns, Kentucky, DE
2006
1 (30, 30) – Joseph Addai, Louisiana State, RB
2 (30, 62) – Tim Jennings, Georgia, DB
3 (30, 94) – Freddie Keiaho, San Diego State, LB
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My argument was never “the Colts completely ignored their defense”. My argument was that the Colts put the defense on the back burner if there was a guy available that would help Peyton develop. Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark all fit that profile – YES, a tight end. This whole argument stemmed from the fact that you didn’t think we should draft OU’s Jermaine Gresham in the first round. My only point was that it’s a good idea to draft a guy that will help your quarterback mature, and the Colts VERY CLEARLY bought that philosophy.
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Sorry, have to call you on that
They ignored their entire defense, Joe.
You are picking and choosing which drafts to look at. Of course you have to address both sides of the ball over a long period of time. I am not knowledgeable enough about the Cots to argue whether they should have drafted a DE or LB instead of Dallas Clark that year. Maybe they thought their draft picks would play better or that they could get someone in free agency. The point is that they obviously did try to improve their defense via the draft. If anything, the drafts were slated to the defensive side of the ball.
The original argument I was making was that Center is a huge problem for our offense, and that drafting a pass catching TE with our #1 pick would be a luxury pick. A TE is also an offensive player. I did inject defense into the argument, which only clouded the issue. Now, if you wanted to make the case that Indy had a crappy Center and took Clark anyway, then you would have a better argument.
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Dec 23, 2008 4:36 PM EST
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Well, I didn’t mean what I said. Lesson learned – be more poignant and articulate. When I said “they ignored their entire defense, Joe”, I meant in the first round. And in the five years after Peyton was drafted, they spent three of their first-round picks on guys to help Peyton.
Again, the only point I’m making is that to draft for need (center) over value (tight end or any other position this year) isn’t ALWAYS the best move. The Colts’ drafting guys to help Peyton develop is proof of that. Their defense has sucked for years, but they still spent FIRST ROUND PICKS (emphasis on FIRST ROUND PICKS) on guys for Peyton. So I still maintain that drafting a tight end despite our need at center WOULD NOT be a luxury pick because of the advantages it would give Edwards in his development. Developing your quarterback is NEVER EVER a luxury.
In the end, this entire argument may be moot. Sign a free agent center, Mr. Modrak…
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Do you really think a TE would
do more to help the offense than a Center. A pass catching TE can’t help the running game as much as a Center, therefore can’t make the defense as vulnerable to play action. A pass catching TE is not going to be as critical of a blocker, therefore helping to keep said QB from getting injured. Edwards completed that pass in the AZ game, but was knocked out. I can’t see how drafting a TE in round 1 with our current needs is not a luxury pick.
And to be fair, after drafting James the year after Manning, the Colts alternated between taking an offensive and defensive player until 2005 when they took a DB for the second straight year.
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Short answer: I think a TE would help our offense just as much as a center. There’s no denying that a receiving threat at the position would be a HUGE help to Edwards.
There are FOUR good centers in this year’s draft, Joe. Alex Mack is obviously the cream of the crop, but Max Unger, Jonathan Luigs and Antoine Caldwell are all going to be excellent pro centers as well. I don’t want to draft Mack for need knowing that there’s three excellent prospects behind him and also knowing that there’s incredible value at other positions. TE is just one of them.
Again, I’m not advocating Gresham – I just don’t think we should take a center in the first round just because we’re scared of missing on a draft pick.
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I was doing a little more
research on Centers. The only one that compares to Mack is Luigs, IMO. The others are 15-20 lbs lighter with slower 40 times. The last thing we need is another under weight Center. We need a new Center to start on day one.
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So you’re saying you’re against the idea of signing a vet and drafting one of those centers you don’t like to groom. The vet could start from day one, you know…
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No, in a perfect world
I would sign Birk or Brown and trade down to pick up Mack. If he is gone, then it would not be as critical. Birk and Brown have little chance of actually hitting the market. So, after them, I am not as excited about the other FAs out there. No doubt some of them could be better than Preston, but isn’t using that line of thinking that how we ended up with Fowler?
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I agree with you about the talent after Birk/Brown in FA being less than ideal, BUT you’re taking this center fetish to the extreme, methinks.
A) If we signed Matt Birk or Jason Brown, there is NO WAY we’d draft Alex Mack unless it was in the second round on a whim. Mack is a sure-fire starter from Day One, and Birk or Brown would conceivably be signed to start from day one as well. Is drafting a backup center REALLY the best value we can get out of a top pick?
B) You’re right – Luigs is the only guy who compares with Mack. There’s a strong possibility he’ll be available when we pick in the second round. He’s a guy who can start from day one, too.
I like Alex Mack. I just don’t think our need at center outweighs other needs, and certainly not to the point where we need to sign Matt Birk and draft Mack to solve the problem.
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My idea was that if we sign Birk or Brown,
then we could afford to trade back and pick up Mack or Luigs if they were still left later in the 1st or early second round. Mack should start day one, but it would not have to be at the center position. He would still have the opportunity to learn the center position from a Pro Bowl center which to me is not a bad thing. I would be wiling to back off Mack if we could sign one of those 2 FAs and pick up Luigs, but it is very unlikely that they hit the FA market. If they don’t, there are only two centers (Mack and Luigs) I have any interest in taking in the first 2 rounds. There are so many variables, it is hard to know what would be best a this point. But, if you forced me to pick today with who we currently have on the roster, it would be Mack ever time and twice on Sundays!!!!
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Flip flop?
I don’t want to draft Mack for need knowing that there’s three excellent prospects behind him and also knowing that there’s incredible value at other positions.
I made this same argument regarding not drafting a WR in round 1 last year. As I recall, you wanted one of them in round 1. Interesting both our positions have changed. Maybe as the draft gets closer, a DE or DT will seduce me to the “dark side”. But as for the TE argument, “I will never join you….NEVER!!!!”
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Brian,
That was a lame reference to Star Wars, just in case you missed it.
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LOL no, I definitely got it. Rarely do any Star Wars references, lame or not, get by me.
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All Star Wars references are lame….
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YOU’RE LAME.
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Dude, you don’t know what you’re talking about…
D@#n it, I did it again! ;-)
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