Bills should get OT Peters his money ASAP

by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 10:45 AM EST in Opinion Comment 70 comments

OT Peters deserves to be paid (buffalobills.com)

Last summer, Buffalo Bills left tackle Jason Peters made waves when he missed every voluntary and mandatory Bills workout from March straight through the night before opening kickoff. The six-month-long hiatus was Peters' attempt at wrestling a new contract out of the Buffalo Bills' front office - and to date, it hasn't worked. Peters has played in 13 games for the Bills this season, all under his current deal.

Now, with the Bills less than a week from playing their season finale, "Peters Holdout Watch II" is about to commence. Peters was given assurances that his deal would be worked on after the season; Buffalo's front office would do well to deliver on that promise as soon as possible.

Is a Bills player more hated?
Imagine, for a second, that head coach Dick Jauron wasn't so wildly unpopular amongst the Bills' fan base. This fan base has a lot of angst, and it's generally projected on one person associated with the team at a time. It's pretty safe to say that if Jauron wasn't taking several million for the team at this point in time, Peters would be the least popular person at One Bills Drive.

Fans are still irate over the lengthy holdout, and rightfully so - he made a lot of enemies with his strange holdout tactics, most notably his vow of silence throughout the entire ordeal. He struggled when he returned, giving up big sacks and missing key blocks while he slowly adjusted to offensive line coach Sean Kugler's new blocking schemes. Even when the Bills were 5-1 and in sole possession of the AFC East lead, Peters was a source of consternation amongst Bills faithful.

He dug himself in deeper last week when, after being voted into his second consecutive Pro Bowl, Peters uttered the following:

"It's overwhelming. This is why you play the game. To get to Hawaii."

Well, no, getting to Hawaii really isn't why you play the game, Jason. If you're one of the folks who was baffled when Peters said that, I'm right there with you.

Give him his money ASAP
With that said, ornery feelings toward a player are hardly a reason to entertain letting the guy walk, or even trading him. Part of the reason that the Bills are stuck in neutral after three consecutive near-.500 seasons under Dick Jauron is that the Bills are stuck trying to fill holes every year in terms of personnel - and they're self-inflicted wounds. We had depth issues at cornerback when we let Nate Clements walk. Angelo Crowell's tryst with the IR created a gaping hole at linebacker right before the season. Willis McGahee was traded, creating the need to draft Marshawn Lynch.

Now, granted, not all of these personnel moves were poor decisions. That's the nature of the business. But willingly parting ways with Peters because of fan-base angst, a couple of sacks and a contract dispute would follow a disturbing pattern of neutrality. Signing him, on the other hand, would be a step forward - read, progress - for the young Bills.

Peters will be 27 years old at the start of the 2009 season. He's sturdy, dependable (on the field), and in his prime. Like him or not, he's one of the elite players at his position. He should be paid; he must be paid. And the sooner he gets his money, the better.

Make progress... for once
Avoiding another holdout situation with Peters is completely in the hands of Buffalo's front office. We know what Peters will do if he doesn't hear from the Bills about his contract. Last summer, I backed the Bills' stance, as Peters had three years left on his deal and was, frankly, acting like a moron. I'm not prepared to take the same stance if the same situation occurs this off-season. Avoiding a holdout is a must. Paying Peters is a must. Get Peters his money ASAP, and you avoid a headache, lock up a great young player in his prime, and make progress. And progress is what it's all about, right?

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You are right

But, we all know that progress doesn’t seem to be the Bills M.O. Making sound decisions is not too high on the list either.

by JTM1023 on Dec 23, 2008 11:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I have a feeling that comment was in response to a question about individual honors….

I agree. We have to give him his money soon. Or else he’ll hold out again, and this time he probably won’t come back. There’s no reason not to pay him now.

by Kurupt on Dec 23, 2008 11:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

anyone

have any guess on the contract that he would garner? 5-7 years? How much guaranteed? And how much per year? $20-30 guaranteed? $7-9 a year?

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 23, 2008 11:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

At Least...

as much if not more that Dockery got.

by JTM1023 on Dec 23, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Another need will be back-up QB. .

If the Bills want some security there, they may need to pay a quality back-up well. That could create salary cap problems. Any thoughts as to who they could get?

by JTM1023 on Dec 23, 2008 11:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Salary cap problems from a backup QB?

Who in the f%^# are you signing for $25m to be a backup?

by twoeightnine on Dec 23, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jim Kelly.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I hear Vinny Testaverde is available.

Just kidding…I think.

by thefourwinds on Dec 23, 2008 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not as baffled by Peters as Some Are

Well, Brian, this is an interesting turn of events. 4 or 6 or 8 months later (depending on how you look at the importance of sring workouts), you’ve finally come around on Peters and now advocate paying him. I said the same thing 6 months ago and was literally blown off the blogs by other bloggers who couldn’t disagree more.
The guy is a star. Maybe not as bright a star as he was last year, with Jim McNally behind him and a full off-season of practice, but he’s one of the best players at his position in the league. Why the Bills insisted on allowing a situation where he had to basically play himself into shape and knock the rust off in the first 5 games, is symbolic of this franchise’s penchant for, as you say, ``self-inflicted wounds,‘’ doing exactly the wrong thing at times. Not all the time. But enough to infuriate fans.
You have to set aside the personal. ``Peters was acting like an moron,’’ is simply not a good enough reason to imperil the anchor of your offensive line. Does Jerry Jones put up with all kinds of s___ from Owens? You bet. But he pays him and is happy to do it when he sees the results on the field.
Say what you like about Peters as a person, as a lineman he is outstanding under the right circumstances. Glad you finally came around and are giving management its just due for screwing this one up. Maybe Ralph’s revised, corrected, adjusted and tweaked new management structure will allow the brass to do the right thing with Peters this off-season.

by Defensewinsgames on Dec 23, 2008 11:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Glad you finally came around and are giving management its just due for screwing this one up.

Whoa, you’re putting words in my mouth there. I still think the Bills did the absolute right thing last summer by letting Peters hold out. With 3 years left on his deal and with him acting the way he was, the Bills were correct in letting him sit. I just don’t think they can afford to let it happen again. That’s all I’m saying.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Totally Correct

The Bills Brass did handle it correctly. Peters hurt the team by not being in game shape or getting reps to get the feel for the offensive scheme. That being said, if the execs don’t give him a new deal this year, he may just hold out the whole season and really screw things up.
They followed through with Evans, and promised to hook up Peters during the off season, so there is no reason to think they won’t. I just hope they can meet his demands and still be able to draft and/or sign what they need to improve the weak spots too. Over spending on one player will hurt in the long run.

by JTM1023 on Dec 23, 2008 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Teams

don’t publicly tell a player that they’ll take care of him and then not do it. No player in their right mind would come to a team that broke their word. I think you can almost guarantee that they will be offering Peters an extension. Whether it’s to Peters liking is another matter.

by gatornation on Dec 23, 2008 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

as a lineman he is outstanding under the right circumstances.

Um, what exactly does this mean? TO is an outstanding receiver “under the right circumstances,” also. Unfortunately, the right circumstances equals treating him like a prima donna, privilege princess, whatever other way you want to put it, and then still having to listen to him mouth off after his own crappy performance.

by thefourwinds on Dec 23, 2008 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I fully agree with you

We need to sign him, now! Just a little sidenote concerning his comments: I am certain that he is aware of the fact that many Bills fans are not too happy with him because of his holdout. Being elected to the pro-bowl is in fact a certain vindication for him or at least he must perceive it that way and it also shows him that the league in general like him enough to elect him to the pro-bowl. That said, I still disagree with his comment.

Brian you mentioned a few moves that might not have made sense and I’d like to add two others to the mix, which in retrospect maybe could have been avoided such as Spikes & Fletcher. Fletcher definitely was still worth the money and I would argue that Spikes was as well, even though he was coming off of an injury. Both those guys are extremely high strung professional athletes with a huge WILL to win something that I feel lacks. Again, because Jauron was responsible for personnel decisions, I blame him for getting rid of good leaders that could have continues to help our young team progress.

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by keysh67 on Dec 23, 2008 12:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

His deal will be better than Dock's...

and they should lock him up long term. That being said, I have been one of the people that has been blasting him for holding out and then showing up and playing terribly for half a year. If we give him this fat contract, is he gonna get fat and happy and play lousy like this year? I hope not but I can definately see it happening.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 23, 2008 12:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Peters attitude in general troubles me

He clearly is a “me first” person. His greatest motivation seems to be getting the big contract he “deserves”. What happens when he gets his guaranteed signing bonus money? What will his motivation be to keep working hard? Given the Bills luck, he will probably sit on his but and get fat and slow. I hope the Bills really think about Peters and the type of guy he is. They know him, is attitude, and his work ethic better than we do. Maybe he is the opposite type of person I think he is and just shouldn’t take to the media. One thing is for sure, his trade value will never be higher. With the premium on LTs in this league and the Bills ability to find them in later rounds, I would shop him. If we can get a stud DE or DT along with a lower 1st round and 3rd round pick, I would have to think very hard about it.

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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2008 12:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I am on the fence on this one

You make a good argument. I guess it would completely depend on the trade options.

It is so tough to get great LTs in this league that when you have one it almost doesn’t make any sense to let him go but you make a good point that superficial indications show that he seems to be a “me first” type guy and right now his value is probably at it’s highest point.

I don’t know of a team that has anything to trade? Maybe the Cardinals? (Peters for Boldin) but could we afford him? We could use our top pick on a LT, Walker did well at LT in the first few games so maybe?

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by keysh67 on Dec 23, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The problem is this

(And I think you and I went through this last yearduring his hold out), In the NFL player can get cut and make $0. Peters can sign the richest contract in the history of the NFL, get hurt, and cut, then make nothing. Peters is trying to make money now while he can. I don’t blame him for wanting to get his due. I don’t completely agree with his methods but I can see where he is coming from.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 23, 2008 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

He doesn’t handle it the best way, but it’s the way he and his agent decided to go about it. He just wants to get paid. We need to pay him. Spending big-time money on a LT is a smart move. Whereas giving Schobel, Dockery, Evans huge deals, could be argued. Giving Peters, a Pro-Bowl LT, a cornerstone of our franchise a 6-7 year deal is a wise move

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 23, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I completly agree with Eric & Marv....

As fans, we sometimes tend to forget that have to get as much money as they can as soon as they can. I am not mad at him for attempting to get, especially in a business where your career could be over in a split second. I never agreed with the holdout, but I do understand.

As far as the trade talk, in my book, that is simply not an option. CB,…o.k. LB?…o.k, LT?….no. Bills fans, how many times do have to watch Buffalo trade or let good players walk before we realize that you gotta keep, and you gotta pay your best players?

There is only one NFL football team that plays in New York state...and Canada?

by MonStarr_716 on Dec 23, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just asking

but, Brian, where do you get the time to do all this posting? At 23, you must have a full-time job?

Since you are number one guy here, at least regarding initiating threads/topics, it would be inereresting for the rest of us to learn about our “leader,” here, if you don’t mind. By the way, I thank you for your efforts here at this site. I know we have people from all over and since we are “family,” it might be nice to know a few things about each other.

Regarding Peters: yeah, we don’t want a repeat of this season, so do something with him before next season. Like “Joe P,” above, I have my questions about Peters’ attitude but maybe he’s a better teammate than we think….maybe. Only Jauron & company know.

by ccthemovieman on Dec 23, 2008 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yes, I have a full-time job. I do all my writing in the evenings – or, in the case of my recent Ralph Wilson rant, in the middle of the night. So, for example, I had this article written at about 8PM last night. Then I scheduled it to post this morning. I’m definitely not as omnipresent here as I seem, and to be honest, I’d like to be less so. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I doing what I can :-)

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 23, 2008 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Haha, that you are, my friend.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lol liar........

you live for this shizzle……HA……just josslin you…….

and lucky for me too, because besides the 3-4 hrs a day my daughter is awake…..I have no life :(

12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 23, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Tough One

Boy, this is a tough one. I would think that Peters needs to give an inch or two to get an extension and every body can become lovey-dovey. If he agreed to moving a bit of the guarantees to the backend (to prevent him from crying about his deal after a couple of years) and/or maybe not getting as monster a contract as he wanted (get in the neighborhood of (slightly more than) Dockery’s contract), that would work. I think the key for both sides will be that both sides conceded/sacrificed some (just like a good relationship). By the way, I think one thing that should be kept in mind on the point that MattRichWarren made that he will get a deal better than Dockery is that Peters still has 2 years on his contract, so if he gets the same as Dockery now (redo, instead of extend), he is really getting a much better contract than Dock. I think that is where it should end up (and both sides can save face).

by labill on Dec 23, 2008 1:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Is Sunday's game a sellout?

and, thus, will be televised locally? If not, how many seats remain?

Thank you.

by ccthemovieman on Dec 23, 2008 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

are you gonna buy up the unpurchased ones? LOL

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 23, 2008 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

As my gift to you I will buy all the unpurchased ones.

by twoeightnine on Dec 23, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought all the games were sold out before the season started.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 23, 2008 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

New avatar in the spirit of the season

Ho Ho Holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2008 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Damn those hands!

by Zumone on Dec 23, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that's what i want for X-mas all right!

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by keysh67 on Dec 23, 2008 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Haha I thought you wanted a new head coach for Christmas! Flip-flopper! :)

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That is the new coaching staff that he wants.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 23, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, they’d distract our opponents…

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They could make everything all better!!

hahaha – But I’m greedy and I still want a new coach

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by keysh67 on Dec 23, 2008 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

what kind of crowd can we expect on Sun? Pro-Buffalo or a bunch of “FIRE JAURON” signs? Team better play well, cuz otherwise it will turn into snow balls thrown at the players in the tunnel leaving the game and an ugly day at the Ralph. We all now how Bills fans can get when they get mad and angry

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 23, 2008 4:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

There will be no shortage of stupid people at the game, unfortunately.

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

that’s just the way it is I guess. Hopefully fans can behave themselves. The last thing I want to see is a sad spectacle from the fans which is why the team better play their tales off and try and steal this one from the “cheaters”

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 23, 2008 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Marv please let it go!

I know what they did was wrong but we can’t constantly be bringing it up, it’s over man.

I must say that I find that they lack CLASS because last week was the worse display I have ever seen, for a team to keep their foot on the gas like that was just a abominable. There is a code of honor that most teams respect but Bellichick is such a classless individual that he feels that he is above such code. At first I blamed it on him but now I am starting to think that Kraft should intervene and provide guidelines.

I can assure you that we will be respectful citizens no matter what the outcome is.

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by keysh67 on Dec 23, 2008 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They Did It To Us

Last years game at the Ralph on Sunday night. On 4th down, instead of kicking field goals, they went for TD’s. That was the worst example of running up the score I have ever seen. This past Sunday against the Cards, they did only kick the FG’s so it wasn’t as bad. The Cards also were so ineffective that the Pats had no choice but to score on them. What else were they to do? Just turn the ball over on downs or toss them an int or 2?

Belechick, to me, is not an ethical guy at all. Between the Cheatgate stuff to the cheap shots his team takes on opposing players, to the running up of the score agaiunst us, we have every reason to hate the guy. But, he does win, so its hard to fault him in that way. It would be nice if we could knock his pompous ass out of the postseason though.

by JTM1023 on Dec 24, 2008 5:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I want to win so bad...

I’ll be there on Sunday and boy do I want to win because I hate Belichick so much..

I thought of something this morning just for the hell of it:

If Jauron was fired and somehow Wilson was able to lure Bill Belichick, would we be for it or against it? And as much as I want this team to win I cannot bring myself to accept it and I would prefer passing and taking my chances with another coach.

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by keysh67 on Dec 24, 2008 6:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hey

i ain’t hatn. Just saying, we all know how it goes. I’m not drumming up a dead horse here. I’m not bringining anything up, I’m just specualting as to WHAT COULD HAPPEN, this Sunday with how livid the fan base has been since the debacle of this season

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 23, 2008 5:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

In Peters defense, he’s not a brain surgeon. If getting to the pro-bowl is what drives him, why would we care? At least we know he’s putting in effort.

by Krukow on Dec 23, 2008 5:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Very fair point.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The point, in my mind, is what is it driving him to? Is it driving him to play all out on every down so that his team WINS, instead of taking off a play here and there and those are the plays that cause sack/fumbles or penalties that bring back long-gainers, etc? If his goal is to make it to the Pro Bowl, it’s going to bring very different results from someone who is driven to see his team win a championship.

If he wants to be an individual star, maybe he should take up golf.

by thefourwinds on Dec 24, 2008 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Peters and the Contract-- Why does it feel like Casey at the Bat?

Okay, here is the situation, this past August, Brandon stood up and said that Peters would get a contract extension discusion IF he came to training camp, Peters did NOT come to training camp. Brandon then said they will work with him in the OFFSEASON!

Why the H%LL can Peters not understand plain english? The offseason for the Bills starts the day AFTER MNF on Dec. 30th. Most likely then the Bills will call his agent to start the talks then. The Bills will negotiate in season for players who will toe the company line, Peters HAS NOT done so, and so they will make him wait till the offseason to do so. Peters, you are freaking MORON if you think the Bills will do anything to negate their stance from earlier this year regarding negotians with you. They CANNOT afford to look soft to other player’s agents in this situation. By forcing you to wait, they make it easier on themselves with other agents when they lay down an Ultimatum.

As for the contract itself, look for it to extend his deal another 5-7 seasons from now, along with more money to push him past the “average” per year that Dock is making. Also, look for the Bills to put ALOT of riders in the contract regarding what is expected of Jason. I think you’ll see alot of fines listed for missing practices, OTA’s and other things like that, maybe even stuff regarding how much time he must spend in Buffalo in the offseason with either straight up #x dollars lost a day for not appearing up to and maybe including loss of things like roster bonuses if he is a no show. They will find ways to force him to come in shape and up to date on the blocking schemes.

Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?

by WABillsfan on Dec 23, 2008 6:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Your last paragraph. I agree with it 100%.

But, I also see many, if not all NFL contracts going forward, to be that way. It’s something to watch for in the next CBA; I don’t think the NFLPA likes that kind of stuff, and may negotiate hard against any of it.

by krytime on Dec 23, 2008 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't surprise me if they play hard ball with him again...

I figure the Bills still had plenty of cap room available, even after the Evans extension. I’m guessing, and I could be wrong here, but I’d say there must have been at least ten miilion or so left. Please – someone let me know if I’m wrong on that.

If the Bills long term thinking did/does include Peters, why wouldn’t they have done it in season, where they could have used some or even all of the signing bonus towards this year’s cap? Also, they probably could have gotten him cheaper. If they don’t have him signed by the time FA starts, surely his price tag will go up as he sees all of the exorbitant deals that will surely follow.

I’d watch for Eugene Parker on this. He got his nuts handed to him this year. Don’t think he isn’t thinking for revenge as well. He basically worked as Peters’ agent for free for however long now. Don’t think he doesn’t want to recoup some of that. If the Bills don’t offer the world, watch him instruct Peters to play the “pay me or trade me” card.

Of course, that’s just my opinion…

by krytime on Dec 23, 2008 6:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Once again, Brandon and the Bills made an ultimatum in August that was ignored

He said Peters would get one IN SEASON if he came to camp. Peters and Parker decided to play hard ball.

Brandon then said if he showed up in the season, he would get the talks rolling again in the OFFSEASON, which starts in less than a week now.

The fact that Peters is whining now like a 3 year old points to Parker getting frustrated that the Bills are toeing the line in the sand they made and telling Peters that he had better do so too. The Bills COULD NOT, let me repeat COULD NOT negotiate with Peters during the season if they were to maintain their hard won position within the agent community.

The fact that Parker had his balls handed to him by Ralph and Brandon means that anytime the Bills say something about a contract situation, it is to be taken as gospel by the Agent Community now. Agents know what they are up against everytime they come to the table. Parker and Peters better be ready for war, because the Bills WILL play hardball in route to getting a new contract with Peter done. They cannot afford to look weak after winning a HUGE victory in their last fight.

Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?

by WABillsfan on Dec 23, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Are you sure about the "in season" comment?

I don’t remember hearing that.

by krytime on Dec 23, 2008 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He never said in season. Not even close.

He said that they will not negotiate a contract with anyone who is not in camp. If Peters showed up they would talk to him about an extension.

by twoeightnine on Dec 23, 2008 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This should be a foregone conclusion

He’s the most elite player on our team overall at the 2nd most important position on the field, so it’s seems pretty elementary that he be given what he wants (pardon the pirate speak). How often do guys of his ilk come along? He obviously got bad advice from his agent and all that is water under the bridge now. If they go immediately to the bargaining table after the season, he’ll be fine. I was as pissed at and baffled by him as humanly possible, but he’s played some of his best football in the final 2/3 of the season here. Geev that man hees money!

by live6453 on Dec 23, 2008 6:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

No do not pay him! Trade cause he clearly does not have his focus on the Team winning and it’s about his own individual accomplishments and that is not what builds a Championship team!!

by Fam_1st on Dec 23, 2008 7:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

That's crazy

The Bills have been looking for a stud LT for years, and now that they finally have one, you want to trade him away because he wants to be paid like the elite LT that he is? That makes zero sense to me.

Besides if you trade Peters then who is your new LT? Langston Walker? I don’t think so.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 23, 2008 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

my vote is for Kirk Chambers.........

since you know……he’s a Stanford guy…..(right Brian??? LOL)

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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 23, 2008 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t care what his motivation is – he’s a good player on the field and works his butt off. You don’t trade an elite guy because of a few stupid public comments.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good idea.

We can get .10 on the dollar for him and then be forced to waste a high draft pick on someone to fill his spot while additional holes go unfilled, again. We can then pay that high draft pick as much or nearly as much as Peters would get without having proven himself and pray that we don’t have to compare said pick to Mike Williams.

by twoeightnine on Dec 23, 2008 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Uncapped year

I am not sure there is anyway JP is going to agree to a 5-7 year deal like you guys all want because (I believe) in 2 years the CBA is over and then there is no salary cap. Any good agent with a stud client like JP is going to obviously want some security for his client, but the potential for huge money from some crazy team has to be very intriguing. Especially with a me guy like we all think he is, unless it is an insane amount of money I look for this to be a long and ugly process with both sides using the media to there advantage. Buckle up its going to be another interesting ride.

by Honestabe75 on Dec 23, 2008 9:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

When you said JP was not going to agree to a 5-7 year deal,

I about had a heart attack because I thought you meant Loseman! Don’t ever do that again!!!! Peters official nickname is “dough boy”. It works on many levels :-)

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

good point! Sorry won't happen again!!

by Honestabe75 on Dec 23, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What do YOU have against the initials JP?

LOL

by JTM1023 on Dec 24, 2008 5:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, last post should have been here.

What do YOU have against the initials JP? LOL

by JTM1023 on Dec 24, 2008 5:55 AM ES

by JTM1023 on Dec 24, 2008 5:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree on the CBA spin...

No way Peters accepts a deal over 2 years. I also want to restate that my fanpost was NOT a petition to trade Peters. I want the kid back. I do fear what his mentality could become once he “makes it big.”

Getting rid of Peters for draft picks to draft a rookie LT is not the way to go. There’s no gurantee anyone will ever pan out. Peters did, and he wasn’t even supposed to be a LT.
Plus, what they’ll have to pay Peters now will seem like a bargain compared to what they’d have to pay a player of similar caliber in a few years.

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This isn’t the place to discuss it really, but could any of you imagine having difficulty living the rest of your lives with a few million in the bank? Man, how do these guys fritter away the stuff so easily?

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 24, 2008 8:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Man, how do these guys fritter away the stuff so easily?

Our society and most of their peers encourage the “spend it now, live for now” mentality. What’s even crazier is there are plenty of ex-players who go in to the teams to try to work with current players, practically pleading with them not to blow all their money now. It usually only impacts a few of them.

Somewhat related to the “live for now” mentality, I remember a few years ago seeing a piece on ESPN about Earl Campbell (former great Houston Oilers RB) and how all the years of getting pounded prevented him from really being able to function normally ever again (couldn’t really walk or take care of himself anymore). Many of the current RBs who saw it (with the notable exception of Jerome Bettis) said they didn’t care, they were going to give it all now and d@^n the consequences.

All in all, many of these guys have nearly nothing to live for except the game, the glory they get as stars, and the money (plus the associated bling). That’s the saddest part. There are plenty of exceptions, but not enough unfortunately.

This isn’t the place to discuss it really,

I’ll be bold and say Brian encourages discussion on all kinds of topics, since this is a community. Brian, slap me down if I’m being too bold here. ;-)

but could any of you imagine having difficulty living the rest of your lives with a few million in the bank?

Studies on lottery winners have shown that people who gain large sums of money quickly (inheritance, lottery, etc.) end up more miserable afterwards than they ever were before. Even many of the wealthiest men ever, who earned their fortunes, were crushed psychologically under the weight of it and said they wouldn’t wish their millions/billions on anyone. BTW, there are Bible verses that speak to the truth of the rich not necessarily having an easier or more peaceful life than those who are not rich.

by thefourwinds on Dec 24, 2008 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I would love to give it a shot!

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 24, 2008 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The smartest people who win the lottery make preperations

A guy in Ohio won something 200 mil in the Powerball a couple of years ago and he did the smartest he you could. He got 2 accounts, and 2 lawyers lined up before taking the immediate cash payment. He put aside 10% of the winnings for himself to use as he saw fit, paid off all of his bills, and then purchased several variations of trusts so that regardless of what the market did, he always had a stream of income coming in.

The reason for the 2 lawyers and accountants, we to have 1 of each check his accounts and run them, and the other 2 guys were there to WATCH the other two running the accounts. Sadly, this dude is very much the exception that proves the rule.

Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?

by WABillsfan on Dec 24, 2008 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I hold to this:

That if you’re playing the lottery on a consistent, obsessive basis, you have no idea or plan to manage your life’s earnings as they stand currently. If you don’t play it, you don’t necessarily have more money than that person eyeing numbers symbols all day. You just know how to live with what you’ve got.

NFL rookies are provide council on their new contracts, but many don’t take that opportunity. I guess it’s hard to live without that Maybach at each of your homes.

Oh and Wilson: Pay Peters – soon!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 24, 2008 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs