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Accordint to Michael Lombardi of national football post.

FROM JOHN WAWROW OF THE ROCHESTER DEMOCRAT AND CHRONICLE… Dick Jauron’s future as coach of the Buffalo Bills will be determined in the next two weeks. Bills owner Ralph Wilson told the Associated Press on Monday he still hasn’t made up his mind, but he will use a series of end-of-season meetings with his top executives to come to a conclusion  “The decision will be made shortly,” Wilson said, referring to the yet to be scheduled meetings. He said he’ll seek input from chief operating officer Russ Brandon and chief scout Tom Modrak, and added that Jauron will also attend the meetings.   Speaking by phone from his home in suburban Detroit, Wilson declined to say which way he’s leaning. Wilson also declined to say whether Jauron had already agreed to or been offered a contract extension. Jauron is in the final year of his three-year contract and is firmly on the hot seat after the Bills (7-8) lost seven of eight games prior to a 30-23 win at Denver on Sunday. In stopping short of providing Jauron a vote of confidence, Wilson said he was impressed with how the players haven’t given up on the coach. “I don’t know why he hasn’t had a better record,” Wilson said. “He’s a heck of a good guy. And the players, I haven’t seen them not play hard for him. They have played hard in the wins and the losses. I’m optimistic about our future.” Buffalo will miss the playoffs for a ninth straight year, and closes out the season hosting New England on Sunday. Jauron has declined to discuss his future or contract status except to say he anticipates he’ll be back next season.

The Bills do play hard for Dick, who is a very good coach, but they must find a way to become more physical and more creative with their offense.  They have too many pieces to be so inconsistent, and they must define some roles for the players this off-season.  However, they must get stronger and more physical in their offensive line and must find a tight end who can control the end of the line of scrimmage.  They are a cold-weather team and must put more emphasis on becoming tougher and more physical.  That needs to be the off-season mandate for the coaches. 

 

Take this for what's its worth.  He says Dick Jaruon is a very good coach.  For all you haters out there.  But he also acknowledges there inconsistencies.  We need to get bigger and stronger and tougher.  We need to draft or bring in some OL to bring toughness.  I think brining in a FA center or other OL position to bring toughness would do wonders to spark that group.  Defensively, we undoubtedly need some tough guys to play in the front 7.

Lombardi and Mike Mayock raved about the talent the Bills have accumulated over the last few season, and entering 2008 thought they had what it took to be a playoff team.  Looking back on the season missed opportunities, poor coaching, poor play from Edwards, etc led to our demise.  But we have to get tougher.  Do you agree with this assessment?  How do you think we go abot being a "tougher" team to contend in a cold-weather city like Buffalo?  And firing Dick Jauron is not an acceptable answer:)

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Speaking of toughness and physical play, the Ravens define both. They are always playing with good pad level and come off the ball with force and power. They may not be as talented as the Bills’ offensive line, but they play with better technique, pad level and a nasty disposition.

A new Offensive Line coach anyone? We need someone to toughen this hogs up and bring what Marshawn does on EVERY PLAY! And a FB would help out too.

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 23, 2008 11:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You just took words out of my mouth

I don’t know why there are so few who talked about the OL coach. This is actually a big problem for us. Our OL is big and talented enough, but they often fail on play recognition when the opposing defense runs special stunts or altering formation. Recognizing what the opponent is trying to do is not just the QB’s job, the OL has to adjust immediately as well. That in itself will help on both pass protection and run plays (knowing who’s the key man you need to block).

This blog has put a lot of heat on C and O.C. for the poor offensive showings, but I reckon the OL coach has an even bigger responsibility. When I analyze an offensive effort, I look at: a)What was the call? Was it a right call at the right time? (Which is an O.C. issue) b)If it was an obvious bad call, did the QB adjust at the line? (Which indicates a QB talent issue.) c)How was the play executed? Were we overpowered by our opponents? (Which indicates a talent issue) Or did we just not execute well? (Which might be a combination of talent and coaching issue.) Maybe Ron from NM can help us analyze how many failed offensive efforts belong to each of the areas I mentioned, however, aside from the obvious fact that the C position is a clear talent issue, I don’t think we lack ability (talent-wise) to play a physical game. I think the biggest things we lack to having a powerful running game, are:

1)An OL coach who has the ability to teach (including both the proper technique to run blocking and instill in the OL the tough/overpowering mentality); and
2)A bruising FB.

If Trent Edwards continue to develop the way he is supposed to and Lynch playing the way he can, I see making the above 2 changes more important than firing Turk/Jauron or getting a pass catching TE.

Bills fan half way around the world

by moncheri on Dec 25, 2008 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ew, you used the word “haters”, Marv. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 11:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

And yes, we absolutely need to get tougher on both sides of the ball. Hence my “DT in the first round” stance.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 11:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think doing whatever it takes to get tougher is the highest priority, however that’s accomplished. I’m not fussy.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 28, 2008 9:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, I never, ever said Kyle Williams needed to be replaced. Ever. He’s good. But you can have more than two good defensive tackles, and how long can we comfortably rely on Marcus Stroud?

I’m just an advocate of keeping your options open.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 28, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with JPH

I simply don’t understand what you are saying Brian. Kyle William has been great this year, one of hte few high points of the season, and Stroud is one of our best players. On the other hand center and defensive end have been our downfall and Ellison is clearly a backup talent

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Dec 28, 2008 4:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm

all about ruffling a few feathers…:) I’d just like to see us take someone nasty with toughness in Round 1. Someone who plays the game with reckless abandon. I think this team is sorely missing that. Especially on defense.

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 23, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jauron

is not a very good coach. he may be a good teacher but he fails in other areas.

we do need to get “tougher” as a team. I think that starts with running the ball effectively and stopping the run. We have been better with both of those but we need to include an edge rusher and another big body type next to Stroud for the D to take the next step.

In watching Chambers I think he has the mentality that you look for in an OL. he plays with a nasty streak and blocks to the whistle, he just doesn’t have the natural ability to be dominant.

by gatornation on Dec 23, 2008 11:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

As an aside, Chambers is a UFA after the season. I’d make re-signing him as our third tackle a pretty high priority… he can play.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agree also

He’s a lot better then i was giving him credit for this time last year. I will admit when I was wrong.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 23, 2008 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, had he given any reason to beleive he was any good?

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 23, 2008 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 23, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, agreed on that.

He’s turned out to be a nice back up. Let me ask this though – why would he want to stay here as a back up? Wouldn’t he rather go to a place where he has a chance to be a starter?

by krytime on Dec 23, 2008 6:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I highly doubt that many NFL teams will view Chambers as a starter, particularly considering that there are a half-dozen blue-chip left tackle prospects in this year’s draft.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2008 6:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oooooh twist my arm brian........

okay im on board with this

12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 24, 2008 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, Chambers is a very good 3rd tackle

If we can lock him up for say 3 seasons, that would give us time to see what we have in Bell, and let that kid get bigger and stronger in the offseason program, I think he’ll gain about 20lbs of muscle this offseason, and looks to be the type who will spend all offseason in Buffalo in the weightroom with Trent, I think he could be a good one.

WIth Chambers here for say another 3 years and if Bell puts on the muscle mass he needs and can keep his quick feet, we could have our Langston Walker replacement ready in a couple of seasons and have Chambers be around to fill in as needed.

Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?

by WABillsfan on Dec 23, 2008 6:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well if we can't fire Jauron,

then we should force him to take the lavender scented hand lotion and bubble bath out of the team locker room :-)

Toughness is an attitude that comes from the coaches. The fact that everyone loves this guy is not a good thing. Anyone who has ever been to boot camp knows this. I don’t know of anyone who loved their drill instructor during boot camp. But, after a few years, they realize why it was so important for him to push everyone as hard as possible. Juaron is not a tough guy, so why would you expect his players to be?

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2008 12:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Levy wasn’t a hard ass either, but he was pretty successful. And I don’t hear anybody saying that guys like Talley, Bruce, or Biscut were soft because of Levy and his "Club Marv " training camps.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 23, 2008 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Situational leadership again. You don’t treat a young team the same way you treat an experienced team.

Also, it could be argued that Levy’s teams got out-toughed and outcoached in their SB losses.

by thefourwinds on Dec 23, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Levy got away with it

I am not sure why. Maybe Levy had better assistant coaches helping him? I do know that coaches set the tone.

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. I’m pretty sick of hearing how much the players like Dick Jauron. This is a young team that needs to be molded into tough winners. I don’t want to hear how much they’ll miss him. They’ll miss him because life is easy, the summers aren’t difficult and you don’t really have to worry about losing your job with him around.

This team needs a tough guy who will instill that toughness in his team. Enough of this pansy preseason work that does very little to get the team mentally and physically ready. Don’t overwork guys, obviously, but don’t turn them into a bunch of tea drinking skirts (sorry if that’s any of you!) during the summer. Make them respect you, not like you.

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 23, 2008 8:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i

think it is a fine line. Jauron is even keel and never quits and neither do his players. Not every coach can say they “still have the locker room,” despite their W-L record. I think Jauron’s staff maybe lacking. Execution of key assignments from positional players is not there. Why have DE"s not gotten better over the year’s here? Why hasn’t Roscoe every become a playmaker on offense? Why can’t we pressure the QB?

Jauron has plenty of positives. Giving Modrak more power is one step in the right direction. Adding a helpful offensive mind would be another. Adding a defensive minded coach who can help Jauron and Fewell get pressure packagest that work would be another.

Disassembling the entire staff, hiring some average Joe coach is not the answer, IMO

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 23, 2008 2:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It is going to hurt a bit

But if you don’t think Juaron can take us to a Super Bowl, then what is the point of it all? And, who is to say we don’t get lucky and find the next great HC?

All I know for sure is I don’t like what we have now. They rest is pure speculation!!!

"If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter."

by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2008 2:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well

again that comes back to the owner. He isn’t going to bring in a big outside guy so going with Jauron is the best we got. He’s got valuable HC experience and has all the tools to make it happen in Buffalo. Give him one more year is all I’m asking. We don’t make the playoffs, then fine, chop him. But I’m convinced he will get it done and if they keep drafting well, this team will be built well to sustain success with a franchise QB, RB, LT, WR and in the great salary cap shape heading into the new CBA in 2011-2012 when those negotiations start

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 23, 2008 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Annoyed with Roscoe

I actually am kind of tired of Roscoe as a receiver. I know he is elusive with the ball in his hands and I know our QB play hasn’t been stellar since he’s been here but he doesn’t really seem to get open, and he does have the dropsies at times. He also is not breaking any tackles if someone gets a hand on him. He’s never been a factor as a pass catcher and he’s just a little gimicky to me. I love him as a returner but as a receiver i rather see Stevie J. He reminds me of Dante Hall alot, they both think they should be more involved as receivers but they really just aren’t made for that at the pro level.

Sorry i know thats not what this post is about but i had to get that off my chest, and Marv brought it up

by LuBAR on Dec 23, 2008 2:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing we gave him that big, new contract….

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 23, 2008 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen!

I have said that for years! Marv got out-coached and The players were “out-toughed”.
Each one was always whining about who was the best, etc. Too busy partying the night before the Giants game to stay focused.

by dloroch on Dec 23, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The most visible display of the challenge Marv had trouble handling was watching Jim Kelly talk him into whatever Kelly wanted to do in 4th down situations, and then see it backfire. I remember this happening numerous times during the Levy/Kelly years.

by thefourwinds on Dec 23, 2008 6:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that Jauron is a pretty decent coach, but he’s a terrible head coach. He shouldn’t be in charge of game day preparation, in game managements and similar duties that he’s failed in so many times in the past.

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 23, 2008 8:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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