In Defense of Jauron
I know this is an unpopular idea, but I believe Jauron should remain with the Bills at least one more year. Give him time to field a mature team that he has methodically built.
I hope Wilson bucks fan sentiment and focuses on the task at hand. When Levy and Jauron came on board there was a sense that the organization had regressed and that somethings would have to be undone as well as rebuilding.
Since Levy and Jauron there's been a palpable sense of progress unlike with any of the Donohue years. Last year at this time our needs list was out of control as was evidenced in the lively discussions on this blog. Now, our needs list is very specific: we need competent starters at Center and Linebacker, upgrades or depth at DE, safety, and possibly TE. This is evidence of a team with pieces coming together.
If Jauron was as bad as is proclaimed, the team and organization would be in a state of regression and we definitely are not. We are simply a very young team with minimal depth and no margin for error and we certainly went beyond that margin due to injuries. I think the consistency is actually a sign that we have a solid core and that things are not falling apart, which does count for a lot.
Bringing in a new coach would certainly mean new coordinators, which would mean Edward's third OC in as many years and it may essentially mean that our first and second year defensive players become rookies again as they learn a new system. This makes no sense with a team as close as we are. If one argues that we should promote from within to preserve continuity, then you might as well keep Jauron.
There are simply no coaching guarantees. John Gruden and Shanahan who were widely acclaimed geniuses are beginning to seem very ordinary. Now we see that "Chucky's" superbowl win was riding the Dungy momentum and Shanahan is indebted to Elway. BTW Mularkey is now being mentioned as a "hot coordinator" as is Josh McDaniel, even though we've seen what happened to Weiss in college and Crennel in Cleveland. Even Bill Parcells is no miracle worker. He couldn't make things happen in Dallas and Chad Pennington is single handedly the reason for Miami's success. The Jets succumbed to fan pressure to let CP go and Parcell scooped him up without blinking and voila.
My point is that we are going through what a young team goes through without the benefit of depth built through years and years of solid drafts or FA pickups. We are now getting to the point where adding FAs and good draft depth will make a difference.
Jauron has built the current team in his image and it is a successful model. All it needs is maturity. The single reason we are where we are is turnovers due to youth. Jim Johnson, who was supposed to be a sure thing, struggled with young players in Miami. One of Parcell's strengths and Belichick's too, is that they bring veterans with them to stabilize young teams. This is something that Levy and Jauron failed to do.
I'm frustrated with the Bills, but if you look at the teams that collapsed this season, the Bills are a team with a bright future. I'm in Redskin country and these folks have no where to go. Their team started out really hot and tanked and there is no overall youth movement here and no one seems to know where to go with this. I looked at Tampa, Kiffin's moving on, the defense is old and plodding, their QB situation is a no-win situation. The Jets are in a boat load of crap. They mortgaged their future on a win now thing with Farve and now they are either going to have to put Clemens out there or cobble something together.
I'm not saying that DJ is the best thing out there. He's not. But he is good and I hope Wilson gives him time, at least one more year, to make this work. If he fails let him fairly (I don't think he will), but we can't take a decade of frustration out on him. He came in with a plan and let's play this plan out, at least one more year.
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that margin due to injuries.
disagree
which would mean Edward’s third OC in as many years
most likely anyways
There are simply no coaching guarantees.
tough to find to be sure…but their out there (Cowher)
BTW Mularkey is now being mentioned
i know…i was laughing when i saw that. you never know though
i was in the same camp as you but I just don’t think he can get it done. I don’t think DJ will ever make us a perennial playoff contender and I think after next season all will be known.
I also think that we have regressed. We have the same record the last 3 seasons – but zero wins in the division. Teams need to be built to win their division. The fact we have zero wins is very very concerning.
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on
Dec 29, 2008 6:14 PM EST
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Your command of the pinks box is impressive
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on
Dec 29, 2008 7:09 PM EST
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yea – who decided pink anyways? i mean milehighreport gets grey so obviously there are other colors.
and yes..sorry but a few points that i wanted to make there…wasn’t trying to be condesending…but no way to tell obviously
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by J2 on
Dec 29, 2008 8:46 PM EST
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IT’S LIGHT RED!
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 29, 2008 9:01 PM EST
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It would be light blue.
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by Brian Galliford on
Dec 29, 2008 9:25 PM EST
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sounds like another poll coming
pink or light blue?
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by Joe P. on
Dec 29, 2008 9:34 PM EST
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You keep telling yourself that, Brian :-)
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on
Dec 29, 2008 9:23 PM EST
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I wasn't trying to be a smart a$$ about your points
I am just jealous because I have not figured out how to do it yet :-) I have tried a few times and got a mess of pink boxes inside of each other.
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on
Dec 29, 2008 9:22 PM EST
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Joe its easy. just highlight the text you want PINK BOXED :) and click on the quotes button that is below the title box.
yes Brian – lets get a pole. I think we should change the color of the box.
all in favor???? “I”
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on
Dec 30, 2008 8:49 AM EST
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lets get a pole
lol – poll
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on
Dec 30, 2008 8:50 AM EST
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I wonder if instead of changing the color we can just use HTML and do pretty much anything in these boxes.
because the bold, strickthrough, italics are all html tags anyways.
testMaybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on
Dec 30, 2008 10:27 AM EST
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NO....lets get a pole....then some dancers!!!!! LOL
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by Joe P. on
Dec 30, 2008 11:06 AM EST
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Pink boxes and pole, no surprise that Joe P is involved here….
~K
by Kurupt on
Dec 30, 2008 12:14 PM EST
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We all have our area of expertise
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by Joe P. on
Dec 30, 2008 12:31 PM EST
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as long as the pole is high gloss stainless steel
we can keep the Pepto box
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by Joe P. on
Dec 30, 2008 12:30 PM EST
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I agree and disagree...
I know it’s not a popular sentiment, but I agree that Jauron is helping improve the PERSONNEL of this team. (read: he is an awful, awful game day coach)
I say adequate to above average coordinators (on both sides of the ball) could make a big difference. Don’t get me wrong, I’d certainly consider a new HC altogether, but with this FO structure, it’s hard to know how much is Jauron’s doing vs. the personnel department.
I think though that we are better off now than we were 4 years ago.
by WhyBillsWhy on
Dec 29, 2008 8:08 PM EST
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but with this FO structure, it’s hard to know how much is Jauron’s doing vs. the personnel department.
I really wish I knew who made what decisions over the years. It would be really interesting to have been able to sit in the war room on draft day and see which guys were pushing for which prospects and who got the final say in heated debates. I would even be curious who does the most work in setting up the draft boards and lists for free agents and then who makes the final say when coming up with offseason plans.
by kaisertown on
Dec 29, 2008 8:23 PM EST
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Pass the Kool Aid this way...
Since I don’t know where to start disagreeing, I won’t. Did some of you watch the same team I did this season?
BTW, Jauron has more power and say in draft decisions than many of you know. Don’t separate him from the personnel department. That said, our draft day decisions have not been much better than the Donahoe years. Guy needs to hit the road, and hit it hard. Our scouting dept. needs an overhaul.
This season has been the worst feeling ever provided by our Bills...a feeling of humiliation. Starting out 5-1 and finishing in last place has been a very cruel tease.
by ChipShot on
Dec 29, 2008 9:11 PM EST
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In game decision making
I agree with you that Jauron has given this team direction. I think the team has gotten better each year he has been here. He does a really good job of bringing in talented players with high character.
The problem with the Bills is that the offensive play calling is too conservative and when critical decisions need to be made, we fail. Basically, offensive play calling in general is the problem.
Now, if I were Ralph Wilson, I would get a new Offensive Coordinator and keep Jauron. However, the offensive coordinator would have to have COMPLETE control of all offensive play calls.
Bringing in a new coach would certainly mean new coordinators, which would mean Edward’s third OC
I don’t agree that this is a good enough reason not to bring in a new OC. You mentioned Chad Pennington, he had a new offensive coordinator. And even if the system was somewhat similar for Chad and Chad is a veteran, it’s still a different system. Look at Matt Ryan, a rookie QB having success. Hell, look at Matt Cassel. It’s not that the Bills need an overhall with a new system, they just need to call different plays at different times. Turk Schonert is a terrible OC. Josh McDaniels would be a great guy to bring in to call plays. I know he will cost top dollar, but we need him badly.
by buffaloboy90 on
Dec 30, 2008 12:34 AM EST
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I'm not opposed
to new coordinators. I think a veteran or veteran team can handle a new system exponentially better than young players. At some point, football is football, and it becomes more about terminology and veterans can handle that.
There was questionable play calling but it’s not that the system was bad. It was good enough to win us at least a couple more games if this team executed.
Another thing is that I think the fate of OCs lies in the defense. If the defense can make stops, give the OC confidence, and dominate, it changes the calls and plays. Our defense was average and put too much of a burden on our offense and it simply could not handle it. If we progress personnell-wise this off season like we have over the past couple of years, we could have a top 10 defense to take the pressure off Edwards, give opportunties to the running game. Besides, with a year under his belt, Edwards will be better able to read defenses , make better decision, audible, etc. This makes a world of difference in play calling and in how the OC is perceived.
by Ono on
Dec 30, 2008 9:55 AM EST
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Personnel
We have not regressed personnel wise. One of my scenarios has Dick moving up to be GM and letting Brandon focus on making Time Warner Cable commercials. That would allow a new coach to help mold the talent we have. Marty to coach, Dick as GM. I like that scenario. Marty is a smart, seasoned guy but he has FIRE!!!! What this team needs.
by MattRichWarren on
Dec 30, 2008 10:01 AM EST
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Dick as GM
I do not think Dick Jauron should be the GM.
Dick Jauron can evaluate player talent very well. However, he can not evaluate coaching talent very well. Dick hired last year’s OC, and then was more than willing to let him go at the end of the season. Dick hired Turk Schonert, and now is telling top management that he did not approve of Turk’s playcalling and will probably ask for Turk to be fired. A big job of a GM is to hire coaches to give teams direction. Based on past hires, I don’t think Jauron is the man to be hiring coaches for this organization.
In defense of Jauron, Ralph Wilson probably didn’t allow him to hire a top dollar offensive coordinator. Basically, Ralph wouldn’t pay for anyone proven, so he forced Dick to guess. Dick picked a guy who was familiar with Trent Edwards. Turk was previously the QB coach in Buffalo with Trent.
I have said this before on this post, the Bills need to bring in an offensive mind like Josh McDaniels from the Patriots to run the offense and keep Jauron as the head coach. I don’t believe this will happen because McDaniels will cost a lot of money. But, maybe just maybe Ralph will dish out the cash to McDaniels.
I do not think it is a good idea to bring in Marty. He does not have the offensive mind that the Bills desperately need right now and imo would be a huge waste of money. Maybe a guy like Steve Marucci, because Steve is familiar with the west coast offense having done it with Bill Walsh. Also, Marucci likes Trent Edwards.
by buffaloboy90 on
Dec 30, 2008 1:01 PM EST
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DJ as GM and Marty as coach: Love it
Really agree with MattRichWarren. The only thing I don’t like about it is the obvious power inversion that would create. DJ would be almost obsolete. But as much as I think the Bills lost 3-4 games because of DJ’s poor game management, I would hate to loose the pacifying persona all together. I think someone with that unique demeanor could hold an organization together, while Marty lights a fire under the players’ rear ends.
Sweet home Orchard Park.
by thurman on
Dec 30, 2008 1:47 PM EST
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I have said this before, too
McDaniels doesn’t leave New England for anything other than a head coaching job no matter how much money we give him.
by MattRichWarren on
Dec 30, 2008 5:02 PM EST
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How did Mariucci do in Detroit???
Oh yeah he failed miserably. NOT STEVE MARIUCCI!!!
by MattRichWarren on
Dec 30, 2008 5:03 PM EST
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