I doubt that it is Russ Brandon and I would think that it’s not Modrak so who the hell is left?

But that is exactly what has me concerned. No one here defended Turk as a “great” hire, instead I think most Rumblers were fairly miffed that the OC search last year apparently never expanded to some of the big names that were available.

So while this decision, this week, comes down to fire him or keep him – who’s to say that the same f.u.b.a.r. hiring process won’t take place in finding a replacement for either Dick or Turk.

In fact thats what I expect.

another terrible situation. No GM, no decisiion maker and thus this crap happens, which is why so many bad feelings happen. Wilson will make the decision as he always does after weighing what his advisors tell him. It’s such a terrible way to run an organization. We all know Schonert called that play in the NYJ2 game, and Dick being the class guy he is defended that he made the call to take the heat off Turk. That’s my speculation as well as many others and I totally believe that.

Edwards has a bright future. BUT, you switch OC’s all the time and have no consistency, and you’ll ruin his career. I honestly think the majority of the players and FO like Dick Jauron and want him to stay. But, with the offense being so terribly bad, I feel like Offensive players and FO people have gotten so mad at the futility of Turk Schonert.

Great read. I love insight like this. One of the big questions they have to be asking is “if we can Jauron, who can we get?” Obviously the players don’t want that because a lot of them would lose their jobs with a new coach

But this is what the inner circle approach gets you. The good news is we may be very close to hitting rock bottom. Maybe Ralf will realize you need a GM. I wonder who it is that is considering leaving the organization over this?

It is very sad that it has come down to a choice between what is best for the team vs perceived loss of revenue. And that the Jauron backers are leaning on friendship rather than constructing the best football team. So now the situation is chaotic at OBD. Look in the mirror, Ralph Wilson. Who do you see? You are responsible for this creation. I simply cannot believe that he runs ANY business organization like this. He wouldn’t make any money. Why don’t we take a vote in Congress and let them decide? Makes about as much sense as what is going on. I thought it might hinge on Turk and loyalty. If DJ continues to back Turk after this utter debacle of a season, that alone should get him fired. I did not know things were this bad behind the scenes. Yes, sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before light dawns again.

Another issue that I just learned about in this morning’s Rochester paper is that Modrak has been allowed to run the personnel side from his home in Florida. He attends games but spends most of his time down south. No freaking wonder things are a bit chaotic at OBD. Our owner has let things get out of control and his inept organizational structure is finally boiling to the surface. How sad. How utterly sad for the team and all those who are passionate about this team.

the tough decision they are in though. Jauron gets his players to play hard. Personnel has been pretty solid at bringing in high character players. Players back that staff. But what has always marked Jauron might burn him again, which is his having a terrible offense OC and terrible offense.

I am convinced the only way to fix this is to wipe the staff clean and start anew. And this is a perfect chance to bring in a coach like Spags, Rex Ryan, McDaniel, Schwartz, Leslie Frazier of Minn, someone who is in the middle of their coaching career and is ready to get his first shot.

I feel like brining in a new OC, under Jauron will just be the same product and different guy to blame offensively. I hope Ralph does the right thing and starts anew, cuz this thing has gotten so bad its time to cut ties

This is probably Jauron’s last rodeo. He won’t get another HC gig. He might have to sacrifice to make this work. I could see him willing to do that. Everyone loves him. But he has to look in the mirror too and realize that he has to get better. I hope someone can reason with him. Jauron is loyal but he isn’t stupid. Being a HC of an NFL franchise is rare and there are only 32 jobs. He’s had 2 runs.

I have seen enough of Jauron’s conservative Brad Childress like coaching style of playing not to lose. He is too conservative and I for one, would rather see a new staff than a new OC come in and suck under Jauron like everyone else

The year DJ was fired in Chicago the Bears started 6-1 and finished 7-9. The 13-3 season was a pure fluke. Good players, inept coaching. After Angelo fired DJ, he said mediocrity will not be tolerated. There are other newspaper articles online saying how glad everyonein Chicago was to finally have football people running the show. Lots of good reading out there on the net.

The themes are the same though. Nice guy, well respected, good defensive mind, no clue on offense, and ownership that finally saw the light and got a real GM. Hauntingly familiar.

i just need an answer. I’m just obsessed with this nonsense until I hear the news. I want hope. I want good news.

I think one HC candidate if Jauron gets fired for sure to get interviewed: Jerry Gray, he was here under Williams with our dominating defense. If he could pluck a good OC away, I think he would be a good HC candidate

yeah, I’m just actually glad how this works out. I’ll hear the news tomorrow. I’m guessing late afternoon, leave work and head to my New Year’s Eve party at 4:00 and get all liquored up and hopefully have a reason to be hopeful again to bring in 2009. I’ve never been a big New year’s resolution kind of a guy but this year I’m trying it out. I hope to God Ralph Wilson tries the same If I were Ralph here’s my list

1. Don’t die
2. don’t die
3. Stop worrying about money cuz my family will be financially secured for 7 generations. So worry about fielding a winner. Spend some money, take some chances and keep getting those prostate exams
4. Trade for Tony Gonzalez, and be a guest on buffalorumblings forums once a week

It’s too bad Ralph wouldn’t just scrap the inner circle garbage. Cowher would come back to the NFL if his personnel guy could be with him. I’d take that over our band of merry morons anyday!

I can’t believe what a joke this franchise is. A complete and utter joke from top to bottom. Yet, I still love everything about it. I hate myself.

No matter what happens, we’re seemingly in a lose lose situation. Jauron keeps Schonert and everyone else (boo, horrible), Jauron stays but has to hire a new OC and maybe DC (boo, horrible, another bad hire coming), Jauron leaves after his staff is forced out (yay, but we still have the clusterfu** of a FO running the show). Those are in descending order of suck. If Ralph would just get the point that we need a strong football minded GM here, maybe something good could happen, but I can’t see him ever making the right moves again.

The fact that there has to be a meeting to decide the fate of the head coach is just bad. He’s a lame duck if he returns and if he was doing such a good job, there’d be no need for these meetings. If you have to have meetings to discuss the future of the HC and other coaches, isn’t that enough cause and proof that a change is needed? Has any coach ever succeeded after this type of job “review”??? UGH!!!!

No Carl Petersen anymore, and the Chiefs have to rebuild and pile draft picks. A 2nd round pick and maybe a conditional pick would for sure get him. I still think it is possible and it would do wonders for our team. We could still have a #11 pick, then Gonzalez instead of a 2nd round pick and then have our 3-5 round picks to hopefully nab some quality talent and couple that with FA, I would love it

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3799959

that is not good if they get him

So when the Jets get Cowher, are the Bills officially dead?

does get canned. We better land Cowher (pipe dream) or Spags. Players love Spags, he shows emotion, and he comes from one of the greatest organizational front offices of the current NFL landscape. Strahan said in jest if he would come back to play football it would be largely because of Spags. He would take a bullet for him he said. Anyhow, let’s hope a big new plan is revealed tomorrow that makes our draw drop in a good way

The Browns are interviewing Mangini. So, the Jets act quickly and will get Cowher because they are willing to give him whatever it takes (God I love that attitude). And, the Browns realize Mangini has talent and got screwed by Farve, and will make him an offer before we even decide what we want to do. The only good news is Spags is still out there.

See Mularkey and Philips as examples.

so many conflicting reports. I agree. Why would he leave though? He won a Super Bowl and has a great life. My hat off to him for understanding how to be a family man first. That guy has my utmost respect

I’m sure Ralph and Brandon are just putting a PowerPoint Presentation together right now for their records so they remember what the hell they decided to do for the next 3 years. I can’t believe they are having these “meetings” I can only imagine what is running through Jauron’s mind. I feel for the guy and his coaches. Regardless of what you think there is a human element to this and I feel for their fate