Patrick Ramsey, really??

by sireric on Dec 30, 2008 12:29 PM EST Comment 13 comments

So I'm seeing all the names that keep getting tossed out there as J.P. Losman's replacement as the Bills back-up quarterback, and one name that I'm seeing mentioned a lot is Patrick Ramsey. Some of you seem to think that he would make a pretty good back-up QB, over names like Batch, Kitna, Harrington, and Garcia. I am honestly curious about what Ramsey has done to warrent all this love. I posed the question to "Ben Salem" and this was his response:

You could probably put Ramsey in that Losman/Boller/Grossman group, but I don’t think Ramsey ever experienced a prolonged failed stint in the league that those three did. He’s had some really bad situations around him as a pro- Spurrier coming into Washington to run a college offense where he got the crap beat out of him, winning the starting job under Gibbs only to suffer a pretty serious injury on opening day, and basically not getting another chance again with the Redskins, Jets, or Broncos. He’s a smart guy with a plus arm. He’s not the ideal veteran backup I want, but if worst came to worst, he might be a decent longshot bet that could pay off nicely.

But that answer doesn't really do it for me. I mean Ben is the same guy who wanted to bring in a veteran 3rd string running back because he wasn't sure that Omon was a competent running back in the NFL. So let me get this right; you want to bring in a vet for a roster spot that might not ever even see the field, (as Omon failed to do this year) but you are willing to bet on a longshot for a position that almost certainly will see the field next year?

2002 - Ramsey played in 9 games starting 5 he had a 51.5% CP. He did throw 9 TDs but had 8 ints and 9 fumbles.

2003 - he started all 11 games that he played in with a 53.1% CP. He had 14 TDs but 9ints and another 8 fumbles.

2004 - 9 games and 7 starts saw an improved 62.1% CP, but 10 TDs with 11ints and another 6 fumbles.

2005 - 2008 he appeared in 8 games with only 1 start, with 2 TDs, 2 picks, and 5 fumbles.

The guy has serious ball security issues. He has 24 career starts and 30 picks and 28 fumbles for his career. with a 56% CP. That sounds like a bigger longshot than I would be comfortable with for a guy who is almost certain to play in 2009.

No Thanks.

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Ramsey sucks.

I’d go with Batch or Kitna, I suppose. Then again, Ramsey is better than Losman, so it wouldn’t be that bad….

by Kurupt on Dec 30, 2008 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Kitna

The Bills should not bring in John Kitna. The guy is a headcase and would distract the team.

by buffaloboy90 on Dec 30, 2008 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Losman and Ramsey are about on par. Losman is good for 1 pick and 1 fumble a game.

by gatornation on Dec 30, 2008 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

its that Tulane football program........cant trust em.....lol

Hell why not offer Shaun King a shot at the number 2 job then? Jeesh

12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 30, 2008 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What QB young or old is going to want to come play back up Quarterback for this mess of an organization. Whoever we get is probably going to suck.

Craig.

by taskersd on Dec 30, 2008 1:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

think about it

Trent is injury prone and has had bouts of extremely poor play this past season. A good vet could come in and wait till Trent gets hurt and come in and play and try to hold onto the job. It’s not like the guy would be sitting behind Peyton Manning

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 30, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Who cares what does it for you?

That’s not a great list of free agent quarterbacks. I like Batch and Ramsey more than Boller, Harrington, and Grossman. Oh well. I can guarantee you that Garcia will never sign on to be a backup on a perpetual 7-9 team led by Dick Jauron and Turk Schonert and the same goes for potentially more attractive cuts like Kitna, Green, Bulger, and Huard. As for a veteran third string RB, there’s plenty of them out there every year all the way through training camp and even into the regular season- unlike QBs- that’s the difference. There’s no reason not to bring in someone to challenge Omon, whereas you might have to settle on a gamble at backup at QB. Don’t you realize you’re a Bills fan- you’re supposed to settle for mediocrity.

by Benjamin Salem on Dec 30, 2008 7:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Those are all terrible options

Garcia is the only one who has shown that he can actually win games…

by Ron From NM on Dec 30, 2008 9:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunately, Garcia has also shown he is likely to insist on competing for the starting job.

by thefourwinds on Dec 30, 2008 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

And another problem is that he is a scrambler and Edwards is a pure pocket passer.

With a guy like Harrington who is very similar to Edwards, the same game plan can be used for either QB in the case where the backup has to go in. This is an important point when choosing a veteran backup.

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by keysh67 on Dec 31, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

how about Michael Vick?

a little crazy but he will come cheap and with a chip on his sholder. Could be played in special spots like in some version of the wild cat to add some kind of excitement to the O.

by jimkutica on Dec 31, 2008 9:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs