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by keuka121 on Dec 31, 2008 4:27 PM EST Comment 18 comments

I hope I'm not jumping the gun too much here but I need an upper after yesterday. We have the #11 pick next April. IF we stand pat at 11, the question is, who do we go for? I still want Mack but with DJ returning we may very well go D first. It is hard to judge OBD based on our history. (I never would have chosen Whitner at#8) And, not all underclassmen have declared yet. So, leaving out Mack, here we go. Some new years food for thought.

Orakpo (likely top 10)

Michael Johnson (big and scouts like him)

Selvie (projected late 1st)

E Brown (projected late 1st)

SenDerrick Marks 6'1,290

B J Raji 6'1, 325

Peria Jerry 6'2, 305

OLB

Aaron Curry (hey, ya never know) 6'3, 245

Brian Cushing 6'4, 255

Clint Sintim 6'3, 255

ILB

Rey Maualuga 6'3, 260

James Laurinaitis 6'3, 243

There are an awful lot of impact players there. I am crossing my fingers that our esteemed coaches move Poz to the outside. In that case we would not draft an OLB in the first. Maualuga is slipping on some boards because he sometimes takes bad angles and overpursues. But he IS an impact player. If Orakpo is available at 11 we MUST take him (this is without Mack in the picture). If he is not there, a LB or DT might mean more of an impact. At DE, Hardy, Shaughnessey or Middleton (one of those) will be available to us in the second. They are big boys. Who tickles your fancy?

As another aside, there is another good stat site offering a different perspective. It is sfa.stats.com/fb/notes.asp. Follow your way into players by position and go to tackles. Compare Peters to the good ones. Interesting stuff.

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Another DE I left out and who should be considered is Aaron Maybin 6’3, 250 fron Penn State. He is an eligible sophmore. Very highly regarded.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Dec 31, 2008 4:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for that site. The comparison of Peters to some of the best LTs (e.g. Jake Long) is striking.

by thefourwinds on Dec 31, 2008 4:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Ain't it though

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Dec 31, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The only guys on that list that I would consider with a pick as high as 11 are Michael Johnson, Brian Orakpo, Aaron Curry and maybe BJ Raji or Laurinaitis.

I know Brian loves Cushing, but I wouldn’t touch him in the first round. He is too big and unathletic and his production leaves a lot to be desired too. What exactly do people like about him?

Clint Sintim isn’t even remotely close to a fit in our defense. As a strong side linebacker in a 4-3 defense, I wouldn’t draft him until the third round or so and it looks like some 3-4 defense will draft him at least a round before that.

I don’t think Maualuga has the kind of athleticism and coverage skills to be anything other than an average MLB in a 4-3. I think he is a lock to end up in a 3-4, or in a blitz heavy defense where LBs don’t do much covering (like Philly).

I love Peria Jerry, but I don’t think he is special enough to draft at 11, especially since DT isn’t a huge need. He definitely won’t last past the first round.

Marks is OK, but he is more of a late first round guy to me and if I were drafting a DT I would be more interested in the eventual replacement to Stroud than an athletic penetrating guy.

I’ve already given my 2 cents on why I am not that high on Selvie and Brown and Maybin fits into that group too. Penn St. only lists Maybin at 236 pounds and will almost definitely max out around 250 and play in a 3-4. He shouldn’t even be in the discussion for the Bills.

I am much higher on Greg Hardy than most. I think a good combine will make him a top 20 prospect and a legit option at 11.

by kaisertown on Dec 31, 2008 5:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I agree with everything you said. My favorites would be one of the big DE’s (Orakpo or Hardy), Raji or Laurinaitis. Don’t know why I left Hardy out. I have no problem with his injury concerns. I agree with you that his stock will rise going forward. Maualuga is overhyped but somehow grades out about even with Laurinaitis. I threw in Maybin because he is getting a fair amount of press. Too bad he is not bigger. Peria Jerry is a good one too but Raji would be a better #11. I woud also take Laurinaitis over Cushing. I would take Hardy over Michael Johnson. There will be quite a few impact players available at 11.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Jan 1, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You build a line from the middle outward

Stroud and Williams would be so much better with a space eater anchoring the line next to them. Give me Raji…..Raji……Raji!!!!!!

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"

by Joe P. on Dec 31, 2008 9:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

WHere would Stroud and Williams play????

Raji WIlliams and Stroud all in at the same time?

by MattRichWarren on Jan 1, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Williams would be 1st off the bench in the rotation.

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"

by Joe P. on Jan 1, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We just handed him a fat contract

and we have glaring needs in other spots. He has played very well this year. Leave him on the field

by MattRichWarren on Jan 1, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I guess I didn't think it was that fat.

I agree Williams has played well, but he is not a space eater. We need another DT.

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"

by Joe P. on Jan 1, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why are we looking at DTs right now when we have so many other needs?

Stroud and WIlliams can hold down the fort. Draft a guy in the 5th or 6th and develop him like Williams. He can be a backup this year.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 1, 2009 10:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

DTs that command double teams will free up our DEs and LBs to flow to the ball and make plays.

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"

by Joe P. on Jan 1, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

True

I just think we have bigger needs when Williams had a very good year.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 1, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

We would have to address at least some of them in FA for that pick to make sense. Remember, the original premise of this was that Mack was off the table.

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"

by Joe P. on Jan 1, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mack goggles

I think Mack will be available in the second round. DE @ #1.

Sweet home Orchard Park.

by thurman on Jan 1, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Unless Luigs

does well at the Senior Bowl and/or Combine, there is only one Center (Mack) that I think can start day 1 for us. Now, if we get a FA like Birk or Brown, then I will reconsider. Until then, I really don’t think Mack will be there for us in the 2nd round, so we should either trade back and take him later in the 1st or screw the “value” argument and take him at #11.

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"

by Joe P. on Jan 1, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs