however i dont see the correlation between it and success.

Look at the Patriots: Bill Belichek is hardly high-character. They won with Corey Dillon, who whined his way out Cincy. They’re winning with Randy Moss, Junior Seau, etc.

The fact is, while I like high character guys as a fan, i’d rather have guys who win.

And liking jauron when they win and hating him when they lose isn’t being a fairweather fan. It’s holding your coach responsible for what he does.

Being a fairweather fan would be loving jauron in week six and calling yourself a dolphins fan this week.

but then why have him as a coach instead of a gm? i mean yea great hes bringing in some quality players but hes not a good gameday coach. I never really liked jauron. i do give him his respect thats due. he did a great job at the beginning of the year and then his flaws outshined what he did well. I dont think u can argue that he coached a good game against denver and dallas last year or arizona and the second jets game this year. According to his demeanor we dont kno who is actually calling the shots on the field. he says he is but who actually knows. he takes the blame for everything that goes wrong. I dont like him. Id rather have a coach that can manage the play clock correctly and lead his team instead of being everyones friend.

I stumbled upon this site earlier this year….around the times OTA’s started, and I made my first post right after the first preseason game with the Skins. And I must say, the posters here have to be least fair weathered fans on the net. Go check out BB.com of The Stadium wall…and then relish the fact Buffalo Rumblings is in existence. Every now and then I’ll to TSW, but only for a laugh.

Many of you are fair weather fans because you want everyone gone when the team is losing, and everyone to stay when the team is winning

I am impressed with the football knowledge on this site, which leads me my next statement. I don’t think the overwhelming majority of the folks here want to completely “purge” our roster. They are just stating facts that this entire organization as a whole needs major (too strong?) upgrading. I have been hearing this argument since i first started reading here.

Sure, I have questioned his decision making in critical situations too, but if you look at it, even the greatest coaches make poor decisions. Look, coaches make gametime decisisons like Jauron does all the time, it’s just that the ball bounces their way.

I agree….to a point. DJ has an unusually high aptitude in this area.

He has proven himself and his team are…well mediocre to average. Don’t think all of a sudden people have suddenly been down on Jauron, but as fans, we tried to have a little faith. He has definetly done some good things while being here, and I for one was a proponent for keeping him for a 4th year. I didn’t want to blow it all up and start over. But I have seen the light. I am pretty convinced that DJ and his staff aren’t gonna get us to that next level, and I would have rather started at the end of this year until having to wait next year, or next year, or….. next year (a Bills fan’s mantra for the past decade).

As far as the front office, what a mess right now. Please give me some example of when this “Inner Circle” thing minus a true GM has worked. (I’m serious, because I just don’t know often other teams have even used it in the past)

I think DJ might be a good guy personally, but HC material he will probably never be.

Getting rid of Jauron, a guy who has brought in high quality talent and character would be a poor decision.

Why not? His team actually regressed in his third year…after brought in all that high quality and character. This is a business, and the name of the game is winning. And I don’t mean going to the playoffs. I don’t mean winning a playoff game, of the AFC Championship.

I’m talking Super Bowl baby….and not just getting there, I’m talking about winning the Super Bowl do you really think that with DJ leading these players and this team on the field and The Inner Circle off the field can provide its fans a Lombardi Trophy?…

Calling someone a “fair weather fan” means that they’re only fans of the team when they’re winning. Fair weather fans are the folks who completely ignore football when “their team” sucks, and pretend to be the biggest fans ever when “their team” is good.

Not a single person here is a fair weather fan.

I’d be rooting for whoever won the super bowl every year

a sabres fan 2 years ago

I’ve rooted for the Bills through many seasons past that you probably never even heard of (how many here actually remember the 2-win seasons of the late 70s and mid 80s?). Not exactly a fair weather fan. But through that all, I"ve also not plunked down any of my hard-earned money on game tix or apparel, etc. Same level of support or disgust, doesn’t change from year to year.

All that said, I’ve been on this board this whole season complaining about the coaching: the pre-game prep, the in-game decisions, the in-game adjustments (or lack thereof). Why on earth would I want them to keep the whole *(&^$#@ staff when that’s what I’ve been complaining about the whole time?

Leodis McKelvin will be great kick returner and James Hardy showed nothing.
They have not addressed the defensive line or offensive line through the draft.
Getting Marcus Stroud was a nice pluck, but he needs some help.
Tennessee lost Haynesworth and VandenBosch for the year, both Pro Bowlers. Who stepped in, a rookie from Eastern Michigan who had 4 sacks.
Like that ever happens watching a Bills fame. Do you see the contrast!

What so we are fairweather fans because we don’t agree with you that the decision to bring back Jauron was horrible? How can anyone here be a fairweather fan with this team when the haven’t made the playoffs in 9 years and still comments here. The fair weather fans don’t even bother talking about the team right now when we have been an embarrassment for a decade.

This site is BY FAR the best sports blogging site I have ever had the priviledge of joining. I am constantly impressed with the football knowledge and variety of opinions expressed here. Ron from NM (beautiful country there) literally invented a way to evaluate line play. Most impressive. (I’ve read about “metrics” on other sites but never seen how that system operates) Brian does an outstanding job of moderating and keeping things sane. The different perspectives brought to this board are stimulating to me. What I like best, though, is the ability to express an opinion without getting punked. When I get criticized I consider it another learning experience. I sure have seen fair weather fans elsewhere but not here.

When is the last time we had fair weather? 1999, to be exact. And I’m still here, as is everyone else still writing and watching.

What team are you watching? Yes, some of the players are high character, some even talented, but a good many have been duds. Forgetting about his on-the-field coaching gaffes for a moment, Jauron hasn’t even excelled at personnel decisions.

How might you be related to Dick Jauron?

I never once said anyone was fair weather for not liking the Bills. My post specifically talked about Dick Jauron.

Something that does need to be addressed though is that Ralph gave Jauron an extension in Week 6. And why wouldn’t he? Hardly any coach is a “lame duck” with no contract beyond the season, and after a 5-1 start it was a no brainer. Had he not given Jauron that extension though, it makes you wonder if the decision to keep him would have been as easy?

Matt,
I don’t have a problem with Schobel, but the other side has not generated enough pressure. I don’t think Kelsey or Denney are earning their pay. Kelsey has had one good season when he had 6 sacks several years ago. Plus, besides Stroud, Kyle Williams and Spencer Johnson in my opinion, are hardly interior forces.
Personally, if the Bills draft a Mauluaga, put POZ on the outside with Mitchell, I would like to see them blitz like the Steelers do.

As for the draft in 2006, still wish Bills would have taken Ngata over Whitner. McCargo was drafted that year as well. Last two drafts have been better, but curious to see how Ellis pans out and Hardy.

nobody jumps on this bandwagon . how do u call fans of a loser bandwagon ? evdawg419 explains it the Best