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WR Ginn torched Bills in Week 8 (Associated Press)

Flash back to Week 8 of this 2008 NFL season. Our Buffalo Bills are 5-1, and the stinking, hated rival Miami Dolphins are a mediocre 2-4. Life is good. Miami's biggest mistake of the previous regime - in fact, the beacon of their mediocrity - is former first-round WR Ted Ginn, whose impact has been negligible in nearly a season and a half in the NFL. The Bills faced the Dolphins that week; Ginn entered that game with just 20 grabs for 177 yards. Shutting this kid down was going to be cake.

Then it wasn't. Facing a hobbled Bills corner in Terrence McGee, Ginn exploded, nearly doubling his yearly receiving total by hauling in 7 receptions for 175 yards. On a day in which Buffalo contained Miami's vaunted rushing duo, it was Ginn that allowed Miami to pull out a big win. The Bills are 1-4 since that game; the Dolphins are 4-1, and have leapfrogged Buffalo out of the AFC East cellar.

Take a look at the photo in this article. Let it seethe. Take it all in. Ready to punch through a wall yet? That's exactly how I want you to feel. That picture is a symbol of Buffalo's downfall; of this team's inability to shut down a player that, up to that point, hadn't delivered on his talent. Ginn hasn't had an overwhelming game since, though he's been much more productive. Buffalo has a competitive roster, and one veteran - McGee - is more competitive than the rest. Think McGee isn't excited for the rematch?

Fear not. He is. Well... maybe excited is a bit strong.

I just want to have a good game and not have a repeat of what I did previously. I don't feel like I'm out there trying to prove something; I just want to go out there and play some good football.

Well, we'll be emotional for you, Terrence. Get aggressive, man - this weekend, Ginn needs a couple of teeth knocked out. Or, at the very least, to be slowed down - Miami's offense thrives on big plays, and if Ginn isn't a factor, there will be a lot of pressure on Miami's ground game. Containing Ted Ginn may be the biggest key to victory for Buffalo's defense this week - if they'd had it in Week 8, they might have squeaked out a win - but I'm sure Kurupt will cover that tomorrow morning.

  Quick injury update for y'all. QB Trent Edwards, TE Robert Royal and CB Jabari Greer all missed practice Thursday, and the chances that any of them will play on Sunday are remote. RB Marshawn Lynch, DE Chris Ellis, DE Copeland Bryan and LB Teddy Lehman were all limited - but don't worry about Lynch. He's expected to be fine for Sunday's game. The best news is that DE Aaron Schobel and SS Donte Whitner both practiced fully for the second straight day, and the chances increased that both return to the lineup in Toronto. I know he's not the most popular guy around here, but seeing Schobel back in the lineup would be welcome for my sore, bored eyes.

  Jerry Sullivan pens an article for The Star in which he refers to Bills fans as "jilted lovers" when it comes to watching a home game in Toronto.

  The folks at The Rogers Centre were able to sell out Sunday's game, meaning that I'll be able to watch the game live on Sunday. Time will tell if this is good news or bad news.

  As Kurupt informed us yesterday, Bills CB Leodis McKelvin was named the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month for November. Congratulations, Leo. And as a rather important aside, we're now working on re-constructing Buffalo's defensive backfield to represent the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, with three candidates - Leo (Leodis), Don (Donte Whitner) and April O'Neill (Ko Simpson) - already solidified. If you've got ideas, make them known. This may be the most important project we've ever done as a community.

  This isn't shocking, but it's worth reading anyways - Dolphins coach Tony Sparano is concerned about Buffalo's return men. I can see being worried about Leo, but Roscoe Parrish has been off the past month or so, making poor decisions and just not returning very effectively. Perhaps if Buffalo's defense can play as they did against San Francisco, however, Roscoe can return to form.

  Dolphins RB Ricky Williams is an endless source of entertainment for me. It's not because of his past, either. I don't know what it is, but I have a strange respect for the man, and every word uttered from his mouth enthralls me. In his latest interviews, Ricky admits to having an affinity for Canada.

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Wait a minute

You’ve got Ronnie Brown & Ricky Williams rated above Marshawn Lynch & Fred Jackson and you’re worried about stopping Ted Ginn? Whoa, man, back up the truck…

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Dec 5, 2008 11:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why not? We stopped them before, but Ginn was the guy who balanced it out; our turnovers swung the deal. Stop Ginn in that old equation and our turnovers matter much less. Not shutting him down is a development we can’t afford to let re-create itself.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 5, 2008 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a novel idea

How about not turning the football over to the Dolphins? We might stand a chance if the turnover situation gets under control.

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Dec 5, 2008 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Which I alluded to. That’s half of the equalizing equation; the other half is Ginn.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 5, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking

that we stop turning the ball over, Ginn’s contributions mean a lot less. Especially with a healthy Terrance McGee covering him.

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Dec 5, 2008 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let it seethe. Take it all in. Ready to punch through a wall yet? That’s exactly how I want you to feel.

Brian, I’m sure we’ve all felt this way for quite some time, but it means nothing; the question is whether the Bills players and coaches will feel that way come game time. I’m looking for more than just the frustration we’ve seen these past several weeks—that woe is me feeling—I want to see abject rage…“28 Days Later” style! We certainly can’t expect the polite Canadians to whip the Bills into a team of frenzied animals, they’ll have to do it themselves…with Jauron fanning the flames…God help us. With passion and desire this team can crush the upstart marine mammals and, at least for a week, restore some dignity to beleaguered Bills fans everywhere.

I don’t think we need McGee to shut down Ginn per se, he just needs to prevent a repeat performance. We do need to get Pennington’s horizontal and show them who has the better running tandem…and for God sakes man, do it with passion!

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 11:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to see a “Smack you in the mouth” game from the Bills.

We do need to stop Ginn because they will go to him. We know that based off of the success he had the last game.

Looks like JP gets the start because Trent is not practicing. UUUUGGGGGHHHHHH – hopefully he can play good against them like he usually does.

by J2 on Dec 5, 2008 12:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

As I recall

McGee was clearly not ready to play a whole game against Ginn last time around, remember? Plus, Camarillo is out, so the Bills’ secondary will be focusing coverage on Ginn more than last time.

Personally, I think Brown is the greater threat…

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Dec 5, 2008 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Devone Bess isn't terrible

Watch out for him in the Camarillo role….

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 5, 2008 2:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brown probably is a greater threat.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that we do have to stop Ginn as well. All I know is that he had a monster game against us last time and we’d be foolish to think their not going to try and get him the ball a lot this game.

by J2 on Dec 5, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From DJ on the prospect of Losman starting against the Dolphins

"We’ll just have to see how that whole thing goes as the week progresses. But we’ve got a lot of confidence in J. P. He’s got experience in the league and he’s proven that he can win in the league in a big game and this is a big game."

When has JP proved that? Honestly, this is the kind of pap that infuriates me…and it’s only Friday.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 12:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, the fact that this particular quote infuriates you is weird, considering EVERY head coach in the league would have said the EXACT SAME THING were they about to enter a game with their backup. I mean, honestly, what did you expect? I’m not trying to be a prick; I’m legitimately curious.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 5, 2008 12:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe D.J. should have said this; “J.P. stinks, unfortunatly he’s the best that we’ve got if Trent can’t go. We’ll be lucky if we can keep it close.”

Maybe then it would have kept everyone happy.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 5, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he should have said, “JP stinks and it’s my fault he’s the best we got since I brought back a dejected, four-time demoted, 1st round bust to be my backup QB in the lame duck year of his contract when all I had in front of him was an unproven second year guy who has both struggled to produce points and to stay healthy over the course of both his collegiate and pro careers.” That’s if you want to give him a pat on the back for his taking responsibility for the team’s failures throughout the last three years.

by Benjamin Salem on Dec 5, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be refreshing.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And whom else would you have brought in, if you were in charge of such decisions?

I would like to think that it would be a someone who is MUCH better then J.P.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Dec 5, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he definitely shouldn’t have said that.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 5, 2008 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you want Daunte Culpepper or Joe Harrington, or someone like them? Losman is bad, we know that, but it’s not like a backup QB savior was sitting out there for us….

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 5, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d prefer not to rewind the clock back to the spring and summer. There were some other options, but that is not I was criticizing. Besides, I feel bad enough getting us off the theme of this morning’s article, hence my comments on Ginn below.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There is no second coming of Frank Reich for us gang

There is only one dude in the NFL who was that this season, and his name was Kerry Collins, and oh yeah, hes leading the Titans right now. Guys like Frank are very few and very very far between. Cassel has looked good because the Pats franchise has a system in place that makes the QB good running it. It also doesn’t hurt to have a solid Oline and Wes Welker and Randy Moss to chuck it too either.

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Dec 5, 2008 6:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually I’ve heard Parcells say exactly that a few times (not the JP reference of course..he’s probably elated that JP is starting next week).

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

actually they say he creates matt cassell like mobility problems...hes mobile when he is looking to throw a pick lol

"This is one of the most competitive businesses there is . . . It's my life. It's my blood. It's how I'm measured."
---BILL PARCELLS

by Rzayo24 on Dec 6, 2008 7:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Say anything but...

he’s proven that can win the big game in this league. This goes beyond the vacuous coach-speak we usually hear. How about something banal but true: “JP has been a starter in the league and knows the team. I think that after a week of reps with the first team he’ll be fine on Sunday.” Although I do prefer the quotes offered by the others…lol.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My point was that, honestly, what Jauron says to the media shouldn’t matter as much as everyone makes it matter.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 5, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In theory, yes

…but given the teams on-field performance, what the coach says gets magnified. I’m looking for some evidence that the pasty stare I see on the sidelines didn’t originate from a bottle of Elmers glue. If nothing else, we got a memorable quote from Joe P. “Pap smear” It’s funny and it’s true.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

like I will continue to say…people that want to continue the Jauron mongering are people that are just looking for an easy target to blame. It starts with Ralph, and this season ends with Trent Edwards and Turk Schonert. Sure Jauron is bland, but you think if his press conferences had better quotes we’d be a better team? Come on Man (in the words of keyshawn johnson)

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 5, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you should start calling

Jauron’s quotes to the media “pap smears”?

by Joe P. on Dec 5, 2008 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

First Tampon 2….now Jauron’s pap smears

HAHAHA

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 5, 2008 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am not even a doctor,

but I have done my share of field research in the general area :-)

by Joe P. on Dec 5, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of field research going on here in recent days…

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 5, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In 2006 JP beat a 10-6 NY Jets team and a Jacksonville team that was 6-4 at the time. They weren’t the biggest wins ever, but it’s like Losman hasn’t beaten anybody either.

When the media asks Jauron how confident he is with JP Losman playing, what is he supposed to say? Remember that Jauron doesn’t just go out there and start rambling about things. The media asks him questions and he answers them.

by kaisertown on Dec 6, 2008 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ginn won't torch the Bills this time.

McGee shouldn’t have played in the first game…stupid coaching move to keep him in…but we’ve been down that road before. Schobel, if he plays will make an impact. Pennington, not Ginn was the real problem. We all know he’s a heady QB who knows how to exploit a weakness. With a chip on his feeble shoulder, he’s more dangerous. He needs to be harassed and knocked around. Do this without sacrificing the running defense and the Bills will be fine.

One unfortunate thing about the game being in Toronto, is that it will be a sort of homecoming for Rickey Williams. If the fans start cheering for him, I’ll rip my plasma TV from the wall and start eating it.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

if this doesn't frustrate you:

from afc east tim grahm blogger:

“Buffalo has a 16-47 mark against teams with a winning record since 1999”. Ugh.

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 5, 2008 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what a joke this franchise has been

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 5, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we

play a team with a winning record the next 4 weeks

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Dec 5, 2008 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's a good thing...

You have to play a winning team once in a while if you want to join the club. This will be a good gauge in which to truly assess the players and coaches. Let the [Buffalo] chips fall where they may.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So we’ll be lucky to win once if history is an indicator….

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 5, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You need to hit bottom...

…before you can build up. Like the economy, I don’t know where the floor is with the team. If it’s one win, then so be it. Wait a minute! That would given them what record? Next year things will change because there’s only so many different ways you could get to 7-9.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know a guy who is an expert on what may or may not constitute “rock bottom”.

by syrbillsfan on Dec 5, 2008 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear he’s starting at QB this week.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Dec 5, 2008 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see his final press conference? He read a passage from “The Little Engine that Could”… what a lunatic

~K

by Kurupt on Dec 6, 2008 12:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So we’ll be lucky to win once if history is an indicator….

No, no, no it means we will win exactly once!

by kaisertown on Dec 6, 2008 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Like Brian, I always like Ricky Williams

Not sure if its our shared history with a love for Mary Jane, or its the fact he liked Canada. I’ve enjoyed the numerous bachelor parties I’ve attended in Toronto, and unlike many NFL players I have so far avoided bar fights, spraying people with champage, making it rain, or gotten shot at, so I’m ahead of the curve there.

Anyhow, was annoyed when Ricky went to the Phins, would have been nice to have had him. I always thought that was a rock solid trade, but I have a feeling that playing for them made him worse of a drug addict than he was before.

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Dec 5, 2008 6:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OK GUYS...

for real now….its sat…trash talk is over. its a fact phins fans like u guys best in our division…and we have great history..even though our memories are mostly losses. you guys have been respectfull….and i wish u luck. over at phinsider we are havin a blast playing with the houses money….its been fun. hopin for a good game….and no injuries!

"This is one of the most competitive businesses there is . . . It's my life. It's my blood. It's how I'm measured."
---BILL PARCELLS

by Rzayo24 on Dec 6, 2008 7:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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