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2008 Buffalo Bills Free Agents

Neufeld, others leaving? (BuffaloBills.com)

Often times, free agency is overblown in today's NFL. Big names that hit the open market are often times viewed as a quick fix to a problem, and many teams have spent million of dollars on highly-priced free agents only to field a mediocre team the following season. Former Bills GM Marv Levy, however, played to a slightly different tune. It is his belief that some of the more important signings a team can make are re-signing its own players.

Which, of course, brings us to this morning's topic. The Buffalo Bills have a long list of free agents this off-season, and there are talks that two to three of its established veterans should be given contract extensions as well. Keeping our community needs list in mind, it's time for us to put our GM (or COO) caps back on and decide which of the following players need to be given new contracts with the Bills. Which players are staying? Which players are moving on? You decide!

Under Contract, In Need of Renegotiation
The following players currently have deals with the Bills that are set to expire within the next couple of years:

WR Lee Evans: Technically, Evans is signed through 2010. However, his rookie deal has a voidable final season - something Evans will almost certainly exploit to either get an extension this off-season, or cash in on the open market in '09. Buffalo's top wideout would certainly garner a lot of interest as an unrestricted free agent; if the Bills are serious about keeping Evans long-term, look for contract extension talks before training camp.

LB Angelo Crowell: The most consistent performer on Buffalo's young defense, Crowell enters the final year of his current deal. If the Bills don't address linebacker this off-season - including re-signing Crowell - they may enter the '09 off-season with Keith Ellison as their best outside linebacker. The urgency to re-sign Crowell should be as high - if not higher - than the urgency to extend Evans.

Unrestricted Free Agents
These Bills players are set to hit the open market:

WR Sam Aiken: One of Buffalo's top special teams performers, he may not return due to Buffalo's strong interest in upgrading their receiving corps.
TE Michael Gaines: A nice in-season signing for the Bills, but the signing of Teyo Johnson may have signaled the end of Gaines' tenure with the Bills.
LB Mario Haggan: Another valuable special teamer, Haggan may be the one free agent "specialist" that the Bills bring back. He can play D in a pinch.
DE Anthony Hargrove: His suspension for the entire 2008 season means that he's done in Buffalo.
LB Leon Joe: Mid-season pickup that was on and off the roster a few times. Very little chance he'll be back.
TE Matt Murphy: A solid blocker, but the Bills have enough of those at tight end.
TE Ryan Neufeld: Five-year Bill is 32 and provides little value outside of special teams. Virtual certainty he'll be elsewhere next season.
S Bryan Scott: One of the Bills' more underrated defenders late in the season. He's only 26, and would make a great reserve/specialist.
LB Josh Stamer: If he's re-signed, we'll know just how much influence special teams coordinator Bobby April really has.
DE Al Wallace: Played one pre-season game before hitting IR. Has an outside chance of getting a contract, if only to be a training camp body.
CB Jason Webster: Injured in the season opener. May get a contract if the Bills are comfortable starting J. Greer once again.
OG Jason Whittle: Another injured veteran. With his McNally ties severed, it's questionable whether Whittle will get a new deal.
RB Shaud Williams: Cut, then re-signed late in the season, but was inactive. A goner.

Restricted Free Agents
The following players are free to sign with other teams, provided the Bills don't tender offers or don't match other teams' offers:

CB Dustin Fox: Elevated from the practice squad due to injury. Solid play on special teams.
DT Jason Jefferson: Amazing he's lasted two full seasons on the Bills' roster. Somewhat solid, very unspectacular.
S Jim Leonhard: Will almost certainly receive a good tender and be back with the club for training camp.

Exclusive Rights Free Agents
The following four Bills are Exclusive Rights Free Agents: LB Blake Costanzo, DT Corey Mace, TE Tim Massaquoi, WR Scott Mayle.

Have at it, folks!

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Not much to choose from here
I can honestly say that if the Bills chose to let all of these guys walk away, I wouldn't be too upset about any one of them leaving. That said there are some useful players here.

I've said it before that I would like to see Bryan Scott return, and that hasn't changed.A solid vet who can play both safety positions, is a good tackler, and provides great depth. I would prefer him to Leonhard, but I'm not sure the coaching staff feel the same way.

Of the 3 LBs on that list I would prefer Haggan, because as you say, he can play defense in a pinch. Stamer never sees the field unless it's a special teams play.

Other than those two I would really be fine without anybody else on this list returning.

One question, what is Terrence McGee's contract like? Is he another candidate for an extension?

Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 11, 2008 8:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: McGee, Stamer
McGee's got two years left on his deal; he's set to make $2.75M next season and $3M in '09. He'll hit the open market in 2010; it may be a year too quick to talk extension with him.

Stamer did see the field, by the way - but only in goal line packages. And Buffalo's goal line D isn't great to begin with. Haggan has proven that he can play well - especially against the run - when he has to. He's a very good depth player, and I think it's important that the team bring him back.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2008 8:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: McGee
Thanks for the info on McGee. Where do you look up players contract info?
Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 11, 2008 8:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rotoworld.com
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2008 9:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jason Peters
I know Peters has come up in extension talks at this site, so I'll explain his absence from this list: he signed a 5-year extension in '06. He'll hit the open market in 2011, and he's making enough money ($2.2 million next season, $2.95 million in '09, $3.4 million in '10) that he won't hold out for a bigger deal. Peters is fine.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2008 8:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jason Peters
I would like to feel that way, but given the contracts that both Dockery and Walker signed, and the fact that Peters is the one getting voted to the pro-bowl and making all pro lists, he may feel underpaid (and probably be right.) If he improves next year, it may be in the Bills best interest to talk extension with him now before he gets disgruntled.
Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 11, 2008 8:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I say extend Peters as well.
He and Thomas from Cleveland may be battling for the top OT spot in the conference for the next decade.  I say lock him up long, or at least to the end of the Dockery contract.  It'd be nice to know that side of the line wouldn't change for the next six years.

Signing Crowell is a must.  To me, that should be the priority on this team, as of this moment.

Evans might not want to resign here; he may rather be wherever JP is (subtle dig at Lee for not being a team player this year).  If Evans is to stay, what would you offer him?  Surely, he's not TO or Moss kind of money, but he is in the next tier.  I'd say that tier is what, maybe 5/6 million a year?  Price and Reed got 2.5, so it's got to be way above that.

I'd also throw some loot at Greer.  For a guy who struggled for a few years before making it, I think he'll jump at the chance to get some guaranteed money.  I think it'd be a good value resigning.

I'd like to see Leonhard and Scott come back.  I've mentioned before that the safety position was as rock solid as RB, provided of course, that those two are back?

I'm gonna vote for Haggan coming back too, for all of the reasons mentioned above.

I can also see Whittle coming back.  I read an article the other day, and it seems he thinks it's all but a formality.  We didn't see much of him last year, but it nevers hurts to have an experienced guy who can play all 3 spots, and who has a mean streak as well.  Plus, he's cheap.

And Mckee, just look at the CB market.  Why not lock him up a little longer, before he tries for Trufant, Samuels, Clements kind of money?  Again, just being proactive.

Lastly, I'd try and get Fox and Webster signed too, just in case Yobouty does turn out to be a bust, which is the current path I think he's on...

by krytime on Feb 11, 2008 9:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good call on Greer
I think you mentioned him before, and I agreed with you then, so I'm gonna stick to it and agree again.

I could see Whittle back, and that isn't a bad thing. If he can stay healthy, I think that could reduce our draft needs this year.

Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 11, 2008 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree on Greer as well
Greer is entering the final year of his deal, and the coaches probably don't want him starting the '08 season. I agree that he could provide great depth long-term, but there are far more important re-signings to make. I like the kid, but he's not high on the re-signing priority list in my book.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2008 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Greer
When I say for the Bills to extend Greer, I'm thinking anytime before he hits free agency, not necessarily right now, Mid season is fine, just before he hits free agency. Make Crowell the priority for sure, followed by Evans, then Greer later.  
Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 11, 2008 10:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Greer
I just think he needs to be extended because we don't have much on the roster.  Mckee is a player, and that's it.  Even if they get another player through the draft and/or FA, they still need more.  He's a very nice depth fit, and I think he still has room for improvement.

Yobouty, Webster, and Thomas are not the answers here.

by krytime on Feb 11, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why sign Greer long term?
He's nothing special, and never will be.  He's a #3/4 CB at best that was forced into a starting role last season.  I will say he exceeded all expectations, but still, he shouldn't be starting going forward. I believe the front office will be looking for his replacement (in the starting lineup) in FA.

Don't you all remember how TERRIBLE he was before last season? I'm not saying he didn't improve, because he obviously did, but I really do NOT want to rely on him for more than nickel situations.  And personally, nickel backs are a dime a dozen to me.  What we really need is a true bonafide starting caliber CB opposite McGee.

Let Greer play out his deal and if we need a nickel next year, resign him for a couple seasons.  Nobody else is really going to throw money his way....

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 11, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right; Greer is nothing special.
But he has shown improvement, and he has some talent.  He also now has experience in this defense.  I'm not talking about giving him Clements money.  I think he's a perfect 3rd or 4th CB.  Why not keep the guys you helped mature in to players?  Now, I'm not going to check all of the rosters, but I bet you there aren't too many teams in the league that wouldn't want him in that role.  And again, I'm not talking Clements money.  Just something guaranteed that he would like, and something that would fit into the grand scheme of things for the Bills defensive backfield.

by krytime on Feb 12, 2008 12:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't make business sense
I understand the idea of locking up Peters - a franchise cornerstone - long-term, but it doesn't make sense to extend 3 years left to 6 years left just because. He's at a competitive salary, and he's not a me-first player. If the Bills want to extend Peters again, they'll do it within the next year or two - but probably not this off-season.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2008 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But,
There is something to be said for rewarding your best players.  And from all accounts, he is our best player, hands down.  It doesn't make business sense, but that's pro sports.

And by keeping guys happy, you might make it easier to get FAs, something the Sabres organization hasn't figured out.

One more thing - he is currently underpaid to be a Pro Bowl Tackle.  There is no argument there.  As much as I hate when guys don't want to finish their contracts, I am in favor of rewarding someone for excellent play.

by krytime on Feb 11, 2008 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...
... but we did reward him for being one of our best players, less than two years ago. He got a 5-year extension before he became an All-Pro - that, to me, is more committal than giving him another big deal now.

No debate that he's underpaid in terms of his Pro Bowl peers. That's a good thing for this team as it tries to end its playoff drought; why change that when Peters is happy playing under his current contract? If he makes a stink, then pay him, but only then. And Peters isn't a guy to do that.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2008 11:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Peter and the Extension
I say we wait and see how he is performing this fall after coming back from the injury, if he plays at the same level and stays healthy, then tack on an extra couple of years to keep him here as long as Dockery and give him another fat signing bonus. But this doesn't need to be done now, and I'm sure if you asked him about when to get the extension and said it would be after another good season, he would be fine with it.

As for others to extend: I would say lets nail Crowell now this spring with an extension before he sees what a weak LB market pays out in 2010(too much for OK players, and way to much for marginal players, and he would be in the Good category, you do the math). We then take on Evan's contract this summer, and I would say that if Greer is playing well during the season, we look at an extension for him, paying him what a good nickel back makes, and not a penny more since that is his strength.

Otherwise, I like Haggan to resign just because you always need a Special Teams crazy who can also play D in a pinch. Also resigning Whittle, Scott, and Leonhard would all be A-Ok by me, they all fit needs depth wise, and we know what we have unlike a low round draftee. Otherwise, all the others can be filled with low round picks and UFA's after the draft.

So how done was Pat Williams when we let him go Tommie boy??? Stick a fork in him level right?

by WABillsfan on Feb 11, 2008 6:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haggan or Stamer
are the only two on that list that make sense to try and re-sign.  One could make an argument for Aiken, but the guy never does anything besides special teams which is a shame.  

We have enough draft picks to replace everyone else.  In the process, we would probably get better.  No need to waste dollars on players like that.  Thanks for your efforts, hope you enjoyed Buffalo, but Bye!

by RabidBuffalo on Feb 11, 2008 9:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not even Scott?
A lot of these guys have comprised a pretty good special teams unit over the past few years. My feeling is that 4-5 of them will be back on the active roster next season.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2008 10:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
The special teams wasn't as good last year as it has in past years, mainly because most of the reserves, who make up the ST unit, were starting.

If I had to pick 5 from this list to return it would be:
1 Scott
2 Haggan
3 Leonhard
4 Whittle
5 Aiken or Stamer

Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 11, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably could get better...
But maybe not too.  You can't just expect to fill out your roster because you have a lot of draft picks.  And, Buffalo only has 5 picks in the first 4 rounds.  Instead of resigning some guys, you'd rather ust let 'em all go, and then fill out the roster with low round picks?  Doesn't make sense.  There is also something to be said for familiarity and continuity within an organization.

by krytime on Feb 11, 2008 10:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

low round picks
For the most part all of your picks up to the 4th round should make your team. There are of course exceptions, such as Quentin Moses, and Antonio Pittman. From the 5th round pick down should all be guy who are fighting to make the roster, I don't think I ever want to be in the position where you HAVE to get 2 or 3 sure fire roster guys from the 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds.
Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 11, 2008 10:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't agree more my friend.
If you get a "player" after the 5th round, it's icing on the cake.  

by krytime on Feb 11, 2008 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really dont care who they keep
Just re-sign Crowell.  Bring back two of the S.T. players and hope that this years draft could help that area out.  
Do you BILLieve?

by NYTXFAN on Feb 11, 2008 10:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Camp
All these players are more valuable to Buffalo than anyone else.  Just having experience with the coaching staff and familiarity with the other players and organization in general makes all of these guys more likely to be on the Bills next year than on another team.  Most (almost all) of these guys are special teams players or mediocre backups at best.  A bunch of the players on the list will be given minimum contracts with little or no guaranteed money with the expectation that they will fight for a spot on the team in training camp and during the preseason.  Remember that the Bills will have like 90 guys in camp for awhile and after all the injuries last year I think the Bills will bring in all the bodies they can.

All the RFAs and ERFAs will be likely be in camp.  I would expect the Bills to bring back Scott, Haggan, Stamer, Murphy and two or three more of the UFAs to compete as well.  Who will actually make the roster is anyone's guess.

If there is one player I don't expect back, it would be Jason Webster.  He was brought in to be a one year stop-gap solution at corner and was awful during the preseason.  His getting injured probably made the Bills a better team last year.  The Bills have plenty of depth at cornerback, what they need is potential.

by kaisertown on Feb 11, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Resign
I'd resign Gaines, Scott and Haggan only.  And Justin Jenkins, but he's not on the list above so I'm not sure he's a FA.

Gaines is a good blocker and an ok receiver. Resign him now and cut him later if we do upgrade the position further.

Haggan is good for ST, goalline and depth purposes. None of the other LB's are good for more than ST.

And Scott, we've talked about before, is definitely worth resigning. He's better than Leonhard and Wilson and is the only true SS backup we'd have (Wendling doesn't count until he actually sees the field).  

I'm not sure Whittle would resign.  He came here before because of McNally, but now with him gone who knows if he'd want to re-up.  He would be a nice vet backup at multiple positions (see last years discussions).

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 11, 2008 2:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My take on the FA List
WR Aiken - I would have to say not sign because Aiken is really only good on special teams.  Granted he's pretty exceptional in that area, we need individuals who can play their respected positions.  Besides, we'll be addressing this position in the draft.

TE Gaines - we definately need to sign him to a several year contract.  He was fairly productive as a receiving threat once Trent was inserted into the line-up.  He's a solid blocker and is physical enough to break tackles once he catches the ball.  Definate yes.

LB Haggan - This is one is also going to be a yes.  He's a solid special teamer and has performed well at LB when placed on the field.  These are the type of people we need on SP.  Solid performers and can play their actually position.

DE Hargrove - He should be let go because of his off the field issues in itself.  He'll be suspended for the entire season anyway.  He's a decent player on the field but has huge character issues.

LB Joe - This is just a straight no...no discussion needed.

TE Murphy - Don't resign because we should be drafting a TE in the 3rd round as a receiving threat...we have enough blockers.

S Scott - This is a tough one but I'm going to say yes.  He was pretty productive filling in at SS when Whitner was moved to FS.  He has more experience then Wendling but once Wendling gets more time with the team Scott should be gone.

LB Stamer - Stamer needs to go.  He's an Aiken type of player; good on special teams but sucks on the field at his position.

DE Wallace - He needs to go.  Granted Hargrove will be gone; we should be addressing this issue in the draft with one of our 3rd round picks.

CB Webster - Jason needs to be cut as well.  Maybe keep him for training camp for a veteran prescense but he should definately not make the opening day roster.

OL Whittle - I think he should stay.  He gives good veteran depth...Preston should be the odd man out on the line.

RB Williams - This is another no brainer...NO!  Lynch, Jackson, Wright, and A-Train can handle the duties just fine.  If A-Train even makes the roster.

Of Fox, Jefferson, and Leonhard...Leonhard is the only one worth signing.  We have enough CB depth, especially since Fox barely saw playing time if any.  Jefferson is pretty much worthless, we should be drafting a DT anyway.  Leonhard is the smartest player on the team and is just an all around athlete!  He needs to make this roster wheither for special teams purposes or as a FS back-up.

MY DRAFT ORDER:

  1. LB (CONNOR!!!)
  2. WR
  3. TE
  4. DE
  5. DT
  6. LB
  7. OL
  8. OL
  9. FB

by Teaters33 on Feb 11, 2008 6:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

my quick run-down
Unresricted Free Agents

Re-sign:
Mario Haggen
Michael Gaines
Bryon Scott

Maybe resign:
Sam Aiken (depending on how many WR they bring in and Price's situation - probably a goner though)
Josh Stamer (same as WR - depends how many new faces they bring in - probably a goner)
Jason Whittle (would provide vertern depth at a cheap price so he probably could stay)

Goners:
Anthony Hargrove
Leon Joe
Matt Murphy
Ryan Neufeld
Al Wallace
Jason Webster
Shaud Williams

Restricted Free Agents

Maybe:  
Jim Leonhard (if for no other reason becuase he has playing experience in the system)

goners:
Dustin Fox
Jason Jefferson

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 11, 2008 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'd only re-sign...
Re-sign:

I'd offer a multi-year contract to Bryan Scott and a 1 year contract to Mario Haggan.  

Contingencies:

I'd only bring back Michael Gaines if the idea is to cut Robert Royal, otherwise I think we already have our accident-prone, plodding, "blocking" tight end spot filled and a true starter is still needed.

I'd consider re-signing Whittle and Webster as stopgaps to 1 year contracts if the G/C and CB positions are not addressed in the draft.  In any event, I wouldn't be looking at them until April.

Everyone else on this list needs to go.

Nick (Bensalem, PA)

by Nick BensalemPA on Feb 12, 2008 8:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What about Special teams?
That is leaving the special teams units in the hands of a lot of rookies/guys unfamiliar with April's system. I would rather keep a couple of these guys if for no other reason to keep the specials teams solid.
Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 12, 2008 8:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Special Teams
In my scenario, I'm letting these contributors go: Aiken, Stamer, Hargrove, Neufeld, and Leonhard.  Here's how I view replacing them.

Aiken: I feel like Justin Jenkins did more on special teams last year than Aiken anyway.  If we're going to keep a wide receiver for special teams alone, I prefer the younger, cheaper, and more productive Justin Jenkins over Aiken.

Stamer: I don't think you can keep Stamer, Wire, and Haggen next season.  I believe a starting OLB will be added and with Posluszny returning to the lineup, I think April has a good corp of backup linebackers to work with in Wire, Haggan, and now more extensive use of DiGiorgio and Ellison with their being relegated to backup status.

Hargrove: Suspended for season.  Maybe the mysterious Copeland Bryan can replace his role on the coverage units.

Neufeld: Was inactive for most of the 2nd half of the season anyway.  I'd let Schouman battle a 7th rounder for this roster spot next season with special teams play being the deciding factor.

Leonhard: Wendling's a force on special teams and needs to be active every game.  With Simpson returning to lineup, April will certainly be able to get by with Wilson, Wendling, and Scott as major contributors and there's no way we could keep another safety.

 

Nick (Bensalem, PA)

by Nick BensalemPA on Feb 12, 2008 9:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just say no to Aiken.
This "WR" has been around for 5 years and has done nothing.  Even more so, he was beat out for his "specialty" as a ST performer by Justin Jenkins anyways, who played quite well.  So he literally did do nothing.  Does it say ANYTHING to you that he is the biggest WR on a dwarfish corps, hit by injuries, and untalented anyways and he STILL DOESN'T SEE THE FIELD?

Back to Greer for a second, he's been a TC stud the last few years and never really got the chance to play during the season until he was forced into action by injuries.  He played quite well by my standards, with the two factors holding him back being starting experience and height.  One of those can be addressed, one can't.  He's got track sprinter speed, so that's not a problem.  He's also a ball hawk.  He may or may not be a good fit in the slot, depending on the WR of the other team.  So let him play and play attn to how his experience and height affects his play.  If he continues to capably start, give him #2.5 CB money midseason over 3 or 4 years.

Bring Gaines back as an excellent #3.
Bring Scott back as an excellent #2 SS
Bring Haggan for his depth behind Crowell and ST play
Bring Whittle back as a vet at the 3 interior OL positions
Low tender for Fox who showed some potential as our dime back late in the season (Former 3rd round pick)

Why bring back Leonard if we have Whitner, Simpson, Wilson, Scott, and Wendling?  Unless Wendling gets cut, no way we keep 6.

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