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Cornerbacks Shine in Combine Finale

McKelvin, others cement first-round status (AP Photo)

The NFL Scouting Combine closed up shop yesterday, and for the final time ever at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis, potential NFL defensive backs ran drills and sprints on its turf. For reports on the previous three days of the 2008 Combine, click through to the following links: TE/OL :: WR/QB/RB :: DL/LB

Many argue that the Buffalo Bills are in need of a cornerback in this year's draft, while others maintain that a veteran addition will bolster the team's depth, while still others believe that with the emergence of Jabari Greer, the position has settled itself. What is clear is that if the Bills decide that a cornerback might be a first-round target, there are four prospects who are proving their first-round worth.

Cornerbacks
It was a great day for arguably the top two corners on the board, Leodis McKelvin and Mike Jenkins. The Troy alum (McKelvin) ran a 4.38 40, and that time was matched by South Florida's Jenkins. Kansas' Aqib Talib was also stellar, running a 4.47 and displaying a 38-inch vertical jump. Of all of the corners available in this year's draft, Talib and Jenkins may be the best fit as redirectors and tacklers in a Cover 2 scheme.

No corner had as impressive a day as Tennessee State's Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, however. Rodgers-Cromartie showed rare athleticism, running a 4.33 in the 40, jumping 38.5 inches and showing incredible ball skills in positional drills. As David Halprin notes, Rodgers-Cromartie has "star corner" written all over him. Don't be surprised if he's a serious consideration for Buffalo at pick 11, as he's the type of turnover-happy corner that can excel in any defensive scheme.

Virginia Tech's Brandon Flowers, meanwhile, could only run a 4.58 and was not as fluid or athletic as his peers. He seems to be a second-round pick at this point. One other name to keep on as a third round pick (if he doesn't go higher) is UConn's Tyvon Branch, whose 4.31 40 wowed scouts and prove he has the type of explosiveness not just to be a solid corner, but a top-notch kick returner as well.

Safeties
The Bills are about as likely to choose a safety high this year as they were in 2006, when they chose Donte Whitner... oops. Miami's Kenny Phillips, the big-name safety available this year, didn't disappoint with his workout, running a 4.54-second 40 at 212 pounds and showing the type of short-area explosion that will make him a big hitter at the next level. Admittedly, having an explosive athlete like that lining up next to Whitner is enticing, but unrealistic considering the depth the Bills displayed at their free safety position last year. Oklahoma's Reggie Smith, who can play either corner or safety, did not run.

That's all she wrote for the Scouting Combine, folks. Plenty of names showed tons of promise; once we get past this whole free agent thing, we'll dive back into draft-related discussions. Enjoy this last rookie post while you can.

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Kenny Phillips?
Who would want the Bills to use their first round pick on a safety? ;)
Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 27, 2008 8:17 AM EST reply actions  

the bus...
being thrown under already i see...

ha!

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 27, 2008 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I tossed you a softball my friend
I figured we could hear a strong argument for drafting a safety, (and you're just the guy to do it)
Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 27, 2008 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey
I've said that I think the Bills should go DE in the first based on the premise that a DE will be the best player available from a position of need. So I'm not 100% against a safety, as long as I have a strong argument to back it up.
Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 27, 2008 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

in good time...
you'll hear it:)  once i have time to write it up that is!
John I.

by jri111 on Feb 27, 2008 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

in good time...
I'll be waiting.
Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 27, 2008 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Chris Horton...
Horton is a safety from UCLA - I was reading his profile at the combine web site: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/chris-horton?id=1982

He was asked:
When you play Madden, what team do you use? Do you put yourself on the team?
"Redskins. I put myself on the Bills."

So, does that mean he's a fan, or just thinks the Bills desperately need him?

by Krenn on Feb 27, 2008 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

One thing we don't need....
Is a S I have to say that I am realy impressed with Talib, McKelvin, and of course DRC. With that being said....I do not want a CB in the first.
Playoff Bound in '08!

by SP @ Buffalo Rumblings on Feb 27, 2008 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

another possible third round guy....
is Penn State's Justin King.  I've mentioned before I'm not sold on him, but his measurables are undeniable:  6'0, 186, 4.31 forty.  

He's also an excellent return man.

I wouldn't take him higher then in the 3rd, but if he's there when the bills are on the clock, I'd consider him...

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 27, 2008 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

King
I must be honest, I'm not that high on King. I've watched quite a few PSU games the last few years, and he's never really jumped out at me to the point where I thought he was ready for the NFL. I think he would have been better off staying with Joe-Pa for another year instead of coming out early. He looks similar to Youboty when he came out IMO, I'm not sure he is a big upgrade over what is on the roster now.

Typing that last sentence made me consider something, which is; Can the Bills improve the secondary with a late round CB, or will he be no better than what is on the roster now? In other words; If the Bills want to upgrade the CB position, do they have to do it no later than the 3rd round, or can they grab a solid player later than that who will be better than K. Thomas, Youboty, or even Butler?

Man do I miss #78

by sireric on Feb 27, 2008 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed...
I watched EVERY PSU game of his career and I wholehardely agree with your assessment.  I think what king does have though is a whole lot of "upside."  If the Bills don't address CB prior to the 3rd round of the draft and he's still on the board, I think he'd be worth of look, if for no other reason then his potential...
John I.

by jri111 on Feb 27, 2008 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed
King seems like more of an athlete than a CB.  I don't really want to draft a guy with potential. We have a guy like that in Youboty. I'd like to draft someone who is more of a sure thing, or bring in a vet.

IF we brought in a mid rounder though, I like Tyvon Branch the best. He's solid in run support, above average in coverage and improving, and is a top notch return man. His 40 time has blown me away as I didn't realize he was that fast. I was all for picking him in the 4th, but he'll probably go much higher now....

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 27, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

DB's
I think we're stuck between the proverbially rock and a hard place in our secondary...

To me, I think we are low on talent at CB and Safety.  We have a lot of players who make for quality depth, but IMO shouldn't be on the field all the time.

McGee is a good player and a worthy starter, but is more of a #2. He doesn't match up all that well with top WR's, but overall does a solid job in coverage. I've been impressed with his improvement against the run over the years.

After him, we don't have another starting caliber CB. Greer is a good football player, but his limited size hurts him against more physical receivers and especially in the run game. He kind of tailed off last season after a nice start to his new starting status. He shut down TO, so we know he's capable of playing at a high level. I just don't think he's got the ability or physicality to be consistent enough full-time.  He's a good 3rd or 4th CB.

After that, Youboty is still such a question mark. He began to show a flash or two at the end of the season, but he's still a big old mystery.  I wouldn't go with the assumption that he'll be much improved this year.

Kiwaukee Thomas is a decent vet, but nothing special. His career is winding down and he's the guy I'd look at as the one who could be the odd man out.

If we are going to continue to play handicapped without a pass rush, we absolutely have to upgrade the talent at CB. We got abused back there at times last year and I really don't see how sticking with the status quo here will do much to improve our awful pass D.

A LOT of Bills fans think we are absolutely set at Safety, but I'm not one of them.  I'm still waiting for Donte Whitner to have an impact. Everyone talks about how great he is against the run, but I just don't see it. Where are the big hits, tackles for loss, or even tackles at the line?  He's almost like the London Fletcher-Baker of safeties at it seems the majority of his stops are 5-10 yards downfield. Everyone talks about how he's got Bob Sanders ability, but he has nowhere near the impact of Sanders. With all that said, he's still a solid player, but not the special player we thought we were drafting. Of course, he's going into year 3, so that can change and hopefully it does. We won't be replacing him any time soon, so that shouldn't be a worry, and we aren't going to be drafting a SS in the first 4 rounds.

Now FS is another story. I'm not sure Ko Simpson is an impactful NFL starting safety. From watching him play his rookie year, I can't help remembering how many poor angles he would take and how many tackles he would miss. Of course, the tackles he missed don't even come close to comparing to the tackles missed by this season's free safeties. I thought Ko was excellent against the deep ball, but only so-so supporting against passes over the middle. He was a rookie, and should be much improved this year, but his injury and his tackling have me worried about him. I hope he develops into a quality starter, but I'm not entirely sold on him yet.

Our depth is poor, to say the least. To me, Bryan Scott was our best backup last year and it remains to be seen if he'll be back this season. I think Wilson did a good job converting from WR into a player that could help a team, but he still made a ton of mistakes, especially against the deep ball and tackling wise. There were times last year where he just didn't look like he belonged in the defensive backfield. He wasn't the only one, but at least he made some plays out there.  Which leads me to....Jim Leonhard, a guy who I don't feel should be an on NFL roster. I admire him for getting to this level despite his lack of size, but he just doesn't belong out there. He was abused a lot last year when he saw the field, especially in passing situations. Teams just went after his area of our 'zone' and he was always a step late. Against the run, he wasn't much of a help either. I would be rather ticked if he makes the roster again, mostly because we will have done nothing to upgrade our depth at the position.

I'd love for us to resign Scott and bring in a vet FS to challenge Simpson. I don't have a problem with our starters as is, but a little competition could be helpful. If we don't bring in a vet, I guess Wilson would be my choice to back him up.  I like Brandon McGowan from the Bears as a potential FA signing. He's a RFA with no draft pick compensation, I believe. Unless the Bears tendered him a higher offer, I think he's very 'gettable'. He would be a good player to push Simpson, provide an above average backup and give us a solid special teamer.

I left Wendling out, because quite frankly, who knows what he can give the D....

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 27, 2008 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry
that got lengthy and had a few negative points. If nobody wants to read it, I'll summarize: We need more quality in our secondary. That is all.
~K

by Kurupt on Feb 27, 2008 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Good post K....
I agree with some of what you said, but I really don't think we are in that bad of a situation. I really think that Simpson should look better then he did his rookie campaign. I was impressed with Wilson all things considering and he should only get better and feel more natural back there. I am with you about Leonhard, this kid stinks he is no help anywhere. Let me try to ease your doubts about Wendling...this kid will be a contributor this year and not just on ST. He can play, and is one of the guys who does all the little things. Actually if Simpson does not return to full strength I would feel very good about seeing Wendling back there. I watched him at Wyoming and he can contribute at S, CB, hell maybe even WLB. This kid will surprise. I hope we re-sign Scott, but we do need to bring in some corners to compete, I really don't see us signing one, but I wouldn't mind drafting one in the 3-4th rounds.
Playoff Bound in '08!

by SP @ Buffalo Rumblings on Feb 27, 2008 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Re:
The situation is not dire, obviously, but I think we are just filled with quality depth players and no true impact players in our secondary. I wish we had more opportunistic players back there, but with no pass rush, it's kind of hard to play that way.

I hope you are right on Wendling, because I have no clue about him. That'd be nice if he developed into a player that can help on D.

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 27, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I really do
feel good about Wendling. And I do think that he could push Simpson for that spot as well as any FA we would bring in.
Playoff Bound in '08!

by SP @ Buffalo Rumblings on Feb 27, 2008 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

A couple of CB's....
That I like that should be around in the 3-4th rounds (which is where I would pick one) are
Chevis Jackson, and Jonathon Zenon both from LSU, and both are big and would be good fits in the Cover 2. I also like Dwight Lowery from San Jose St. and the most intriguing to me (I've seen a ton of him) is Terrence Wheatley from CU. He has all the tools and a ton of upside, but he does have a past injury with a wrist (he actully had it fused) that will drop him to probably the third, I can say that without a doubt he could come in and be an immediate upgrade over Youboty, or Thomas.
Playoff Bound in '08!

by SP @ Buffalo Rumblings on Feb 27, 2008 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Wheatley
Isn't he only 5'9" or so?  I'd like to add a CB with at least some size...

He is a dynamic player though...

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 27, 2008 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he is...
A bit on the small side. However he is a  physical player for that size, and plays the ball very well. I agree that size would be nice, but if he is available in the 3rd I would look into using one of our picks on him.
Playoff Bound in '08!

by SP @ Buffalo Rumblings on Feb 27, 2008 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Help is needed at every position
I think every spot on the D could use an upgrade, including Safety - I just don't want to see the 11th go to a CB or FS...  A guy who can plug up front, or rush will make the D-Backs look just as good as if we upgraded back there with more talent

by DC Fan on Feb 27, 2008 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

Nice post
Great post Kurupt. It summarized alot of things I have been thinking.

Question for all you. I know we need 'pass rushing DE/DTs', as this board has been discussing since December. Problem is, after the SuperBowl, it seems that EVERY team is also in that same market.

You get a show like the Giants put on, on the biggest stage in the National CopyCat League, with everyone watching, and suddenly all teams are going to try to implement it THIS year.

Instead of being one of many buyers in a sellers market, maybe the best thing to do would be to address other problems this year, and wait for the DE/DT hysteria to die down next year.

In which case CB might be a really good idea.

by Thronsen on Feb 27, 2008 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

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