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Free Agency Open Thread: Midnight Edition

[editor's note, by Brian Galliford] Use this thread to post rumors that you see, as John says, but please also note that WABillsFan is working hard (or hardly working) to keep us updated into the wee hours of the morning as well. Get pumped, Bills fans! End Note

When the clock strikes midnight in less then an hour the 2008 NFL free agency period officially begins.  At that point all bets are off.  Rumors are already starting to circulate around the net (could you imagine free agency without the internet?  How depressing!!). We'll be here all night updating all the news related to the Buffalo Bills.  If you hear of anything - even rumors - make sure you add it to the open thread. To start it off here is some news/rumors that either directly or indirectly relate to the Bills that are making their way around the world wide web this Thursday evening:

  • The Tampa Tribune is reporting that the Bucs has "great interest in free agent WR D.J. Hackett.
  • The Washington Post is reporting that once free agency begins Corey Williams (DT) will be traded to the Cleveland Browns for undisclosed compensation.
  • New Orleans Times-Picayune reports that Jonathan Vilma (LB) of the New York Jets is "very, very close" to being a New Orleans Saint.  This is good news on the Shaun Rogers front since there were reports of a player-for-player trade between the Jets and the Lions and discussion of a three-way trade that would ultimately send Rogers to the Jets.  With Vilma off the market, that gives the Jets one less bargaining chip.
  • Also on the Jets front, NFL Network's Adam Schefer reports that the Jets seem to set their eye on Kris Jenkins (DT) from the Carolina Panthers. Obviously if this goes through, it would put them out of the Shaun Rogers derby.  Less competition = better chances!
  • The Minnesota Star-Tribune reports that talks between the Texans and Vikings about back-up QB Sage Rosenfels have broken off.  They go on to suggest that the Vikings may now have set their sight on our very own JP Losman.
  • It has been vastly reported that Iaasac Bruce was release from the Rams.  I know he's old, but he's worth at least a head turn.
  • The Dallas Morning Star is reporting that the Cowboys are reportedly discussing a trade that would send NT Jason Ferguson to Miami.  If this goes through, it would take another AFC East team out of the running for Rogers.
  • Tight End Alge Crumpler is reportedly visiting with the Seahawks late Thursday and into Friday.  The Tennessee Titans have presumed to be the favorites to land him.
So there we have it, free agency is less then an hour away and rumors are already beginning running rampant.  If you hear anything new or would like just like to discuss these rumors, feel free to add to them below.  I'll be here as long as my biological clock allows me to!

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I am fortunate enough to have the NFL Network here in the D.C. area so i'll be updating any information of interest from there as well.  

The 11:00 PM show started out by talking about wideouts.  They mentioned Buffalo alot, specifically in regards to Porter and Berrian. Shefter made an interesting comment during the conversation though, he said "It's not about these teams having the salary cap room, but whether they have the money for it."  One of the other guys then gave Buffalo as an example.  This is a sad truth, but hopefully it won't handicap the Bills too much.  We'll soon find out!

Go Bills!

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 28, 2008 11:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Corey Williams
Rotoworld reports that Adam Shefter of NFL Network confirms that the Browns are likely to send a second round pick to Green Bay for Defensive Tackle Corey Williams.  
John I.

by jri111 on Feb 28, 2008 11:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lance Briggs
Shefter of NFL Network said that he doesn't think he'll end up with the 49ers as many have reported.

He didn't mention much, but said that he thinks Briggs would go to a "defensive needy team."  He then mentioned the New Orleans Saints.

Shefter said that the Redskins had a lot of interest in Briggs last year, but said that they would be "sitting out" of free agency this year.

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 28, 2008 11:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

williams deal
PFT reports that the Browns are hoping that someone offers a sheet to Anderson so they can get a 1st and 3rd round pick sine they lost their 1st to get Brady Quinn last year and now there 2nd for Corey Williams.

Wonder if Dolphins and Parcells would nab him?  That would make our division pretty tough

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 28, 2008 11:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anderson
is NOT worth the #1 pick in the draft.

I don't think he's that great of a player, so I'd love to see the Dolphins make that move...

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 28, 2008 11:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Andre Davis
He got a 4 yr $16M deal with $8M guaranteed.

I think that's a little more than what Wilford deserves. Hackett would get more than that, so I'm not sure we'll be that interested in him. I guess we'll have to see if the Bills are willing to exceed a deal like that for a WR....

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 28, 2008 11:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

oops
didn't register that they would have to give up the #1 overall pick.  

CAN WE JUST GET A DT!

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 28, 2008 11:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

true, but...
the Browns can have him sign his tender and then trade him to another team for less.  Of course that new team would have to be willing to give him the deal he wants...
John I.

by jri111 on Feb 28, 2008 11:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Defensive Tackles
Five teams have "major" needs at Defensive Tackle; the Bills, Bengals, Browns, Broncos and the Dolphins.  The Falcons, Jets, Seahawks, Titans, and Skins also have a need at that position.

Five of those teams (Buffalo, Miami, New York, Denver, and Cincinnati) have been reported to be interested in Shaun Rogers.  We all know the stories/rumors about the Broncos and Jets being "close" to making trades for Rogers, but now the tables seem to be turning.

There are reports that Corey Williams is going to Cleveland for a 2nd round pick, eliminating them from a team of "need."  Miami seems to be trying to swing a deal for Jason Fergeson of Dallas and the Jets are now turning their attention to Kris Jenkins.  If both of those trades work out, that would put Buffalo in a good position to make a move for Rogers (In addition Jets LB, Jonathan Vilma could be a Saint by early morning, giving the Jets less trade bait to make a deal with Detroit).

Out of the original five teams interested in Rogers then, only Buffalo, Denver and Cincinnati would remain as contenders.  Also with Tommy Kelly re-signing with the Raiders, another "team of need" goes off the list.  With the Lions trying to make a quick move to dump Rogers (prior to his $1 bonus on March 1st) the Bills still seem to have life.  With the way things are going-and they can change SO quick- the Bills may even be in a position of strength.  

There is the possibility that some of these teams (Miami and NY?)are floating these rumors to use as leverage against Detroit.  Finally, Detroit doesn't have to trade Rogers.  If they don't get the deal they want, don't be overly surprised if they decide to pay Rogers his bonus and keep him.

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 28, 2008 11:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rogers
Just in case...Denver doesn't have a 3rd round pick and Cincy picks after we do.  If Rogers is going for higher than that, I doubt we'd have any interest, nor do I think we should.
~K

by Kurupt on Feb 29, 2008 12:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

per profootballtalk...
Nick Eatman of DallasCowboys.com reports that the 'Boys could be sending defensive tackle Jason Ferguson to the Dolphins for one or more late-round picks.

Ferguson tore a biceps in Week One of the 2007 season, and missed the rest of the year.  He has played for Fins V.P. of football operations Bill Parcells with the Jets and the Cowboys.

Other former Tuna guys who soon could be joining the Fins include running back Julius Jones and tackle Jason Fabini.

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 28, 2008 11:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's official!!!
Free Agency has begun!!
John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 12:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Let's Go!!!
How good do you want the Bills to be?

by Fort Worth on Feb 29, 2008 12:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

finally!
it is here
MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 12:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Drayton Florence
San Diego Union Tribune reports that Florence is will end up with either Washington or Detroit.  

Rotoworld is not a fan of him and thinks he will be overpaid.  

I like the guy but not if he's going to break the bank.

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 12:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone know...
if the Bills brought in Whittle, Dockery, or Walker at midnight last year?

What time was it?  How long did they wait?

How good do you want the Bills to be?

by Fort Worth on Feb 29, 2008 12:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I remember
getting the text message about signing Dockery while I was out to dinner....

I think Whittle signed first....?

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 29, 2008 12:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

be interesting to see
if we have the first signing this year.  Jason Whittle last year.  

I mean the way Jauron talked at the combine last week it sounds like all the targeting and "tampering" is done and you hope that you can nab a guy as soon as possible.  I suppose some FA's have the mindset of waiting it out and letting teams fight over them, while others take an offer right away.

Just makes you wonder how much "secret" negotiations go on with this stuff.  You know it does

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whittle
was at like 1:00 am ET
MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like
Asante Samuel's going to be an Eagle.

And to that I say.....AWESOME!

~K

by Kurupt on Feb 29, 2008 12:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

those crazy jets...
per rotoworld:  http://rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=641

The Jets are reportedly poised to make free agent G Alan Faneca a deal averaging $8 million per season.

Interestingly, the NY Daily News notes that the Jets are expected to "outbid the Rams and 49ers," neither of which we've heard linked to Faneca. Niners GM Scot McCloughan is outspokenly opposed to giving guards monster contracts. The Rams are needy there, but in poor salary cap condition.

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 12:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

being aggressive...
they are really showing their aggressiveness this off-season.  Hopefully the Bills keep up with the right moves.
John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 12:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

saints want shockey
john clayton reporting the saints are calling the G-men for Shockey.  Sounds like a win-win for the Giants.  Get rid of malcontent and get something for him without it looking like you were shopping him
MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 12:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

saints get vilma
Vilma gone to New orleans.  Wow, NO a real player early
MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 12:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

only for a 2009 conditional pick...
must be some real concerns about his knee.  First he was in Detroit taking a physical and nothing came of that even though a deal seemed close and now he was moved for a conditional '09 pick.  
John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 12:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

as reported often in my neck of the woods
Berrian to visit Vikings tomorrow.  Wants 12 million guaranteed.  Thats sick money for a guy like that.  He wants 24 million over the first 3 years of his deal!  Thats crazy.  Vikings may not give him that.  There owner Zygi Wilf typically doesn't like to be generous, but they desperately need a receiver and Berrian's speed would be perfect on the turf in the metrodome
MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 12:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Justin Smiley, the first signing
rotoworld:  http://rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=37

Dolphins agreed to terms with G Justin Smiley on a five-year contract worth $25 million, including a $9 million signing bonus.

The Bengals, Raiders, and Rams were also thought to have interest. Smiley is recovering from a torn labrum, but should be O.K. by training camp. The 2004 second-round pick will play right guard in Miami, replacing Rex Hadnot.

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 12:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Justin Smiley
signs for 5 years $25 million 9 million bonus.  Thats Langston Walker money.  Is he as good as Langston Walker?
MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 12:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

PFT
loves to report the "tampering" as no contact to FA"s is supposed to start until 12:01 ET time.  But the paper with quotes from Smiley and contract figures already shows that the frick'n guy was signed prior to today for sure.  Gotta love it.  Its a nasty business.  Got to be on your toes and fight fire with fire
MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 12:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good signing for the Fins.
Dang.  That was a lot better than last year's first signing. (Whittle)  Good move on their part.  Hopefully we'll counter soon....

by Kumario! on Feb 29, 2008 1:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Moss to say
Sid Hartman of the Star Trib in minny, reports Moss is staying in NE which is no surprise.  No contract details announced and no official word
MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 1:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don't Know
If anyone else saw (via ESPN) that the Jaguars are putting Marcus Stroud on the trading block. He's 29 years old and coming off of knee surgery, I believe. I would prefer Rogers because he's younger and doesn't have any significant injury history. I really have no reservations with getting performance out of Rogers because the Bills have a phenomenal locker room and Dick Jauron is a "player's coach."

Sorry if you all aleady knew that.

"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."

by ForeignArrow on Feb 29, 2008 1:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Adam Schefter
actually reported that that we were close to working out a trade for him.  I, for one, would take him over Rogers, and words cannot describe how happy I'd be to see Stroud and McCargo starting together week 1.

by Kumario! on Feb 29, 2008 1:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I second that
This kid is a three time pro bowler if we can get him McCargo will truly come into his own!
Playoff Bound in '08!

by SP on Feb 29, 2008 2:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Smiley
I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about Smiley, but I do know that the 49ers quarterbacks have gotten killed over the last few years and frank gore had an awful year last year. Smiley's grade and summary look good and he is only 26 so it does look like a pretty solid signing for the Fins.

by jmorris0823 on Feb 29, 2008 1:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

saw
scouts inc. have him rated at 65 which is the same grade for Walker.  And yeah he is only 26 which helps.  

This division is only getting tougher.  With parcells in miami, the Fins will be much improved, and the Jets are improving there talent.  We need a huge talent upgrade on our roster. I hope we can find a way through FA and the draft to add 3-5 guys that can start and play big roles this year

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 1:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

ridiculous
Jeff Faine of the New Orlean Saints, C, has signed with the Bucs for a deal that makes him the highest paid center in the game according to PFT.com

WOW.

This money is nuts.  Makes you think grabbing a couple mid-tier FA's is about all the Bills can muster.  After go bank on Dockery last year I don't know if I can see them doing that again

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 29, 2008 1:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Demarrio Williams (LB)
per rotoworld:  http://rotoworld.com/Content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

Scout.com's Adam Caplan reports free agent OLB Demorrio Williams has set up visits with the Bucs, Chiefs, and Chicago Bears.

Williams struggled to fend off rookie Stephen Nicholas last year, but his combination of skills and athleticism is highly intriguing. The Bucs, Chiefs, and Bears all run Cover 2 variations. Williams plays the weak side.

----

It'd be interesting to see if the Bills show any interest, seeing that he's a WLB in a corver-2 D

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 1:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Porter
Jerry Porter is going to be visiting the Jaguars on Friday per profootballtalk and Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com
John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 1:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

another one gone - Kwama Harris
profootballtalk:

A league source tells us that the Oakland Raiders have reached an agreement with former 49ers tackle Kwame Harris.

Harris was a first-round pick in 2003.

No financial details are presently available.

John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 1:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What is going on at OBD???
How good do you want the Bills to be?

by Fort Worth on Feb 29, 2008 1:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

nothing...
they're all at home sleeping :(
John I.

by jri111 on Feb 29, 2008 2:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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