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Kansas City: The Perfect Trade Partner?

I stated earlier this week that I cannot remember a time where trading down has been more prevelant.  Of course, if the Bills wish to trade down, they will need to find a trade partner.  Kansas City obtained the #17 pick via the Jarad Allen trade earlier this week, could they be the perfect trade partner for Buffalo?

It Started with a Highway Robbery
 
The Jarad Allen trade was ridiculous, any way you look at it. $70+ million contract ?! $30 million in guarantees?! Giving up a first, and two third round picks?!  Like I said, ridiculous!
 
How would you like to have KC's draft picks?  Thirteen overall pick, including two first round picks, three third round picks, and six in the top 100 selections.  Talk about ammo!
 
And to top it off, I think the Chiefs have a real possibility of landing arguably the best player in the draft to replace Jarad Allen:  Chris Long.  How?  Well the other Long is already a Dolphin and it looks more and more like Dorsey will be a Ram.  Atlanta will either go Ellis, Ryan, or McFadden.  Oakland is will either go with Gholston or McFadden.  That would leave KC with Allen's replacement AND still 12 more picks, including the 17th overall pick!  Crazy!  If I were a Chief fan, I would be giving a thousand thanks to the Vikings organization.
 
Here are Kansas City's picks and their "value":
 
5th overall (1st round)   - 1,700
17th overall (1st round) - 950
35th overall (2nd round) - 550
66th overall (3rd round) - 260
73rd overall (3rd round) - 225
82nd overall (3rd round) - 180
105th overall (4th round) - 84
136th overall (5th round) - 38
140th overall (5th round) - 36
170th overall (6th round) – 23.4
187th overall (6th round) – 16.6
210th overall (7th round) – 7.4
239th overall (7th round) - 0
 
 
Is a Trade Likely?

 From John Clayton over at espn.com: 
 
Trading places: Expect the Chiefs to actively shop for a trade that could put them into the top 12 of the draft in order to get one of the top offensive linemen. One possible trade partner could be the Buffalo Bills. With the 11th pick, the Bills are looking at wide receiver Devin Thomas and one of the three top small-college cornerbacks. By moving back, the Bills could maybe pick up a third-round pick and still have a choice of one cornerback and possibly Thomas.
 
The Thomas interest aside (I think they are targeting McKlevin at 11), I think the Bills trading down with KC makes perfect sense for both teams.  KC's biggest need is offensive tackle – it was before the Allen trade – and it remains their biggest need after the trade.  Kansas City cannot pass on a guy like Chris Long though, and there really are not any offensive tackles worth the 5th overall pick (with Jake Long off the board).  The next tier of OTs (Albert, Otah, Clady, and Williams) have a good chance of being gone by the time the Chiefs pick at 17.  The Chiefs have more then enough picks (13) to be able to trade up and not lose much.  It goes without saying that the Bills have all the incentive in the world to trade down and trading down to 17 would still give them a chance at one of the top CBs and probably the top WR on the board. 
 
According to the original trade value chart Buffalo's 11th pick is worth 1250 points and Kansas City's 950 points, a difference of 300.  Looking at the point values above, you can obvious see any number of possible pick combinations to get to 300.  Buffalo could easily get a high 3rd AND 5th round pick for the number 11 overall selection from Kansas City.  My favorite combination:  the 66th overall pick (3rd pick in the third round) + 136th pick (the 1st pick in the fifth round) for the 11th pick.

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good read

I too think that KC is the most likely trade scenario for Buffalo. 17 is the ideal spot to trade down to. It would land us right in front of teams that might look WR. The 66th pick would be solid compensation too.

Why does everyone think the Rams are going to draft Dorsey. Is their some public info I don’t know about?

Did you think the Bill’s DEs were bad last year?
The Rams got a total of 5.5 sacks from their DEs last season. 5.5!
Sackmaster James Hall led the way with 2.5 sacks. The 31 year old DE was released and then resigned after the season. Leonard Little will turn 34 during the season and his age has clearly caught up to him. He can’t stay healthy and he only had one sack last year. Situational player Eric Moore added a sack as did Trevor Johnson who is no longer with the team. Victor Adeyanju is also a major part of the rotation, but he did not record a sack.

The Rams awful DEs led to Haslett using a hybrid defense that incorporated both the 4-3 and 3-4. The defense did improve while using the 3-4 and Haslett has publically said that he would like to continue using the hybrid D or switch to a 3-4 fulltime. Dorsey isn’t a great fit in the 3-4.

The Rams best group on defense is probably their DTs. LaRoi Glover can still get it done. He had 45 tackles and 6 sacks last season. Adam Carriker bulked up to almost 300 pounds for the Rams last year. It was a lot to ask of a rookie, but he responded with 39 tackles and 2 sacks including a safety. Fellow rookie Clifton Ryan was a pleasant surprise. The fifth round pick recorded 36 tackles and 2 sacks. The Rams are supposedly still high on former 3rd round pick Claude Wroten as well. Wroten’s big knock coming out of college was how raw he was and the Rams knew they were drafting a project. He had a sack last year and is expected to see an increased role in the rotation this year.

The most telling fact about the Rams DE situation is the fact that former Bills draft pick C.J. Ah You is on their roster. He spent most of last season on their practice squad and the Rams are expected to bring him into camp this year.

by kaisertown on Apr 24, 2008 2:11 PM EDT   0 recs

i think...

the idea is to move Carriker to DE, his natural position and then select Dorsey.

John I.

by jri111 on Apr 25, 2008 12:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Carriker

Heard the same thing. Also heard he’s miffed at switching positions in only his second year, and has to lose some 20-30 lbs to get to a DE weight.

I don’t think they’re high on Wroten. I think what you meant to type was Wroten is high, er, uh, high on himself…

by krytime on Apr 25, 2008 7:27 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s not Wroten – he’s a backup. They ARE high on last year’s fifth-round draft pick, Clifton Ryan, who had a very stellar rookie season. They feel that he can be a long-term starter there.

I think they’re nuts. Dorsey is the better player, but a defensive line featuring Carriker, Ryan and Chris Long is better than a line featuring Ryan, Dorsey and Carriker.

by Brian Galliford on Apr 25, 2008 7:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Absolutely

Wroten is still showing some signs of potential and he will make that team and should have a pretty decent role in the rotation.

Carriker was supposedly going to bulk up even more this offseason. I wonder what the Rams are telling him right now. He wanted to get up around 310 pounds. I don’t know what he weighs right now, but I would bet it is over 300. That would mean Carriker would have to lose close to 30 pounds to play end effectively. He wouldn’t be a good pass rusher even if he lost the weight. The Rams made the right decision moving him to DT, I think they would be crazy to reverse that decision.

Walter from Walterfootball made a good point in his mock. He said:

In addition to St. Louis whiffing so many times, the franchise excels at throwing out smokescreens. Though he’s the best NFL scoop reporter out there, Adam Scheffter doesn’t carry much weight in stating that the Rams are interested in Dorsey. They were also reportedly extremely interested in Ted Ginn and Jay Cutler the past two years as well.

by kaisertown on Apr 25, 2008 11:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As soon

as I heard about the KC trade I through that they would be the perfect trade partner for us puts us down where the WR is the correct value pick for us plus the extra picks we get. But it appears that we’re more interested in the CB from troy. IMHO the trade would help us more, we NEED any tall red zone WR I’d even settle for the best TE any one who can catch the ball for TD’s

Bills Fan in PA

by BILLS on Apr 25, 2008 8:27 AM EDT   0 recs

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