WR Hardy is Bills' Choice in Round Two of NFL Draft
With the fourty-first overall selection in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills have selected Indiana wide receiver James Hardy. After passing on a receiver in round one in order to select CB Leodis McKelvin, the Bills were lucky to see no wide receivers taken in the first round, and the team had their pick of Limas Sweed, Malcolm Kelly and Hardy at this point.
Ultimately, the Bills' choice was Hardy, who at 6'6" provides precisely the big-bodied target that the Bills coveted. Even at such height, Hardy pumped out a sub-4.5 40-yard dash at the NFL Combine, proving his athleticism. Hardy is arguably the best red zone threat in the entire draft, and immediately gives young QB Trent Edwards a possession and red zone threat with the potential to be a vertical nightmare as well. Hardy is a matchup nightmare, and although he has some documented character concerns, they were not enough to deter the Bills from taking him.
Day One of the 2008 NFL Draft could not have worked out better for the Buffalo Bills. The team's two biggest needs entering the day, cornerback and wide receiver, have been addressed with players (McKelvin and Hardy) who can come into One Bills Drive and start from day one. The team currently has no more day one picks, but have eight more selections to make tomorrow at this point. For now, this 2008 draft has to be considered a roaring success for Buffalo, with a first-round gamble paying off in a big way.
Stay tuned to Buffalo Rumblings for the remainder of day one's picks in this open thread. We'll be right back here tomorrow for much more Buffalo Bills draft coverage!
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Would have preferred Sweed
I never heard anyone quesiton his work ethic or maturity, two concerns for Hardy. Still, he is big.
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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Red Zone Threat
Points in the paint. Can’t just load up versus Lynch inside the 20.
by Fort Worth on
Apr 26, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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Smoke!!!
Gotta billeve, that’s who they wanted all along!!!
by Cinga on
Apr 26, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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Yikes, he's huge.
Seven inches taller than the next Bills reciever.
by Krenn on
Apr 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Marv
If Marv was there he would not have taken the guy with character questions.
by Benaconda on
Apr 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Surprised at the Bills board
I’m surprised that a guy with issues in his past was higher on the Bills’ board than Kelly and Sweed. I can understand being higher than Kelly if they are really worried about his knees but higher than Sweed?
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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What do we know for sure about this?
Bills Fan in PA
by BILLS on
Apr 26, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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Not my first choice
I really wanted Limas Sweed. But, obviously, there is something other teams don’t like about him.
Time to start doing my research on James Hardy.
by RabidBuffalo on
Apr 26, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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But
Ron… We had our choice… Gotta Billeve, the FO was happy with him… Had their choice after all…
by Cinga on
Apr 26, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Yep
They had their pick and chose Hardy. I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt as they know far more about talent evaluation than I ever will. With that said, I’ll be royally pissed if he winds up getting suspended for doing something stupid—particularly if Sweed and Kelly become productive players as well as model citizens.
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Hardy
I guess beating women is considered ‘intensity’.
by Benaconda on
Apr 26, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Interesting
Hardy will make us a better Red zone team, but we MUST get a pass catching TE who can stretch the seam and take the load off of Lynch a little bit.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
Apr 26, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Does anyone have
the 2007 Indiana versus Penn State game?
by Fort Worth on
Apr 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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THis is a great pick
You should all be very excited. Go watch some of this guys games. Awesome. I wanted him at 11. 3 yr college production, red zone production, catches, goes over the middle, and is big. Great pick.
Dont forget the same rumors surrounded Jim Kelly back in the day.
by Berg79 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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Bad pcik by the Broncos here
They should have grabbed Sweed or Kelly
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
Apr 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Sweed, Kelly
You mean it’s not apparent to you people yet that the posters here, including yourself, value Kelly and Sweed more highly than all of the other thirty two franchises in the NFL?
by Metzelaars on
Apr 26, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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I think he was conveying surprise, Metzelaars. Relax.
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
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What exactly is your beef today man?
All I was remarking is that I thought Sweed or Kelly would be a better value at that pick than the guy they took. Especially after the injury to Brandon Marshall that may linger into their season. And, last but not least man, you need to CHILL OUT. All we are doing here was bouncing ideas off the wall that we thought the other teams might make a move on. If you can’t handle that style, go lurk ona message board and be a troll, we don’t need your type here.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
Apr 26, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Ideas?
ll we are doing here was bouncing ideas off the wall that we thought the other teams might make a move on.
And making criticisms and critiques based on your [royal you] preconceived notions that have been dashed at every point thus far. At some point one would think you [royal you] would step back and reassess, rather than bludgeoning the same wrong idea over each other’s heads.
Step back, learn from what’s going on, and realize that “draft gurus” are that for a reason – they can’t find work with NFL teams.
by Metzelaars on
Apr 26, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
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Similarly, you may consider adding something constructive to the discussion once in a while, rather than merely ripping on other people. You have to relax…
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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Seriously, who are you?
If you want to pick a fight here, it’d be in your best interests to sharpen your verbal machete…
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Apr 26, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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I don't disagree about the comment on draft gurus
But none of us here are claiming to be anything of the sort. All we were trying to do today was enjoy the experience and share it with the other members of our community who are like minded. Honestly, the majority of us were approaching this the same way many of us would if we all had met up at a local bar, gathered around a tv, and started shooting the breeze while watching the draft.
If you have/had an issue with that specifically, why didn’t you start your own thread in a fan shot, or fan post and invited people like minded like you? None of us here keep score, because that is no fun for us. All we want to do is have some fun, and some talk, and yet there are people like you who suddenly decide to make it personal. Like I attacked your mother or something during a post.
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by WABillsfan on
Apr 26, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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Fort Worth
If you ever doubted this guy watch that INdiana/PSU game. I am a PSU alumni and said at that game he was great. Fort Worth: I will see if I have it and see if their is a way to put it on the site, but I dont think I taped it. He destroyed Justin King.
by Berg79 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Trade back into the 2nd?
Davis is still on the board as are Kelly and Sweed….. It shouldn’t cost much…
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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Agreed....
Filled 2 of our biggest needs…. Time to wheel and deal, get a TE and a Center….
by Cinga on
Apr 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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wow
sweed, kelly, jackson passed on for royal
by Crizal on
Apr 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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if we could
move up and get another wr or fred davis that would be amazing
by Crizal on
Apr 26, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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We could move up to grab Kelly by using one of our 4ths
And then grab Davis maybe in the 3rd?
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
Apr 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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i was hoping for Sweed
I will reserve judgment on Hardy, but a woman beater won’t get a honeymoon. I like the size, buth the character? like i said, i will reserve judgement.
any possibility of a trade back into the second for a TE (Davis?)
John I.
by jri111 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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BRIAN: How do I attach a file to one of these posts... i'll post the INDvsPENN game where I think Hardy had 2 TDs...
by osmanBAE on
Apr 26, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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Put it in a FanShot. Just click the FanShots tab on the home page.
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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Hardy
Dpn’t compare his situation to Lynch’s. Totally different. Read the Indianapolis Star articles and compare it to Lynch’s situation. Hardy’s Pacman Jones on offense.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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do you
have a link for it
Bills Fan in PA
by BILLS on
Apr 26, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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I'll look
I read it back in January when I was looking back on his issues because I liked his size.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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i agree
not the same situation AT ALL. I will give the bills the benefit of the doubt, but i am skeptical
John I.
by jri111 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
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I don’t think we can pigeon-hole Hardy here as a terrible human being. His character concerns got a pass from the Bills. That’s way more than enough for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. Kids make mistakes. Buffalo has some solid leadership. You have to believe he’ll clean his act up and just play ball.
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Matt Forte
how can you go wrong with a Tulanne star/
by Benaconda on
Apr 26, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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SuperFan, you're on a mission.
Fact is, he is a Bill, so, let’s hope the fact he has not been in trouble since 06 is a good sign. Buffalo goes character and if they evaluated him and deemed him alright, I think I will trust their judgment over yours.
by BeastMode on
Apr 26, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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From Bills Brass
Bills scout Tom Roth said, “I think he had a rough upbringing. I don’t think he’s a bad kid at all. He just had a rough upbringing and that’s the way I see it. You can’t knock him for that. You have to give him some credit just for what he’s been through. I wouldn’t say he’s a character risk.”
by BeastMode on
Apr 26, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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Read that already
Titans said the same thing a few years back.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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So he gets no opportunity to turn things around? To change? That's a bit absurd.
by BeastMode on
Apr 26, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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Giving lousy people money...
...usually makes them worse. I’m really angry with this pick and if I still had season tickets, I’d drop them tomorrow…how many people that beat women do you know that have changed their life around? I don’t think you should get a second chance three years later in my book and especially not at that salary…way to sink to a lower level, Buffalo. Nobody around here better make any McGahee jokes again while supporting this loser.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Everyone disagrees with you, man. We appreciate the fact that you have concerns, but you’re starting to sound like an anti-Hardy troll. We do have rules expressly set against spamming hate comments against one player…
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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Do you work for the Bills?
Herd metality disagreement isn’t really a valid measurement of truth: http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=94583
This isn’t the worst one, but I’ll keep looking for the Star article…Glad to see you have rules against “spamming” but maybe you should look at your guidelines against making light of domestic violence. Really sad way to look at this pick, man by forcifully curbing all dissent about this criminal’s character.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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Look… I’m not talking about truth. I’m talking about the fact that you’ve made your point several times. My point about everyone disagreeing with you was not that you’re wrong, it’s that you’re not going to sway any opinions. Just relax… we’re here to have fun.
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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True Story
When I was in college, my girlfriend had a little to much to drink and got into a fight with another girl in the bathroom. She got hit in the lip and was bleeding pretty good. I took her back to my place to clean her up. Then, she wanted to go to an after hours party to look for her. I told her she was not going anywhere. She started yelling at me and tried to force her way past me. She even scratched my face by accident. The cops showed up and cuffed me on the spot. If she had decided to lie, I would have been arrested.
Maybe the Hardy situation is different. Maybe not?
by Joe P. on
Apr 27, 2008 12:28 AM EDT
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your way of thinking when is it ok, three years is not enough time what is right? We all get second chances in life the key is to not repeat the mistakes of the past and what does his salary have to do with it? If he made less would that be better. So I assume that you’ve never been given a second chance?
Bills Fan in PA
by BILLS on
Apr 26, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
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Hardy
I think everyone is concerned because the league is coming down hard on character risks -
blaming it on a rough upbringing is ricockulous! Lots of kids came from rough backgrounds and didn’t beat women.
(so Sweed and Kelly must really have injury concerns for them to fall like this!)
by Benaconda on
Apr 26, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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its no coincidence
that no names have been taken over sweed and kelly. there must be something we dont know.
by thejimbo on
Apr 26, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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plus
he will be surrounded by a ton of high character guys. i don see any problems. though we could get bowman later, on of them ought to be able to stay out of jail (jk)
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Apr 26, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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OK GUYS: I'll Post Indiana Game Torrents... YOU ALL NEED TO SEED
... since I’m the Big10 guy on this board… i’ll post all the Indiana torrents that I have in the FanShots page in a few min… Everyone needs to seed as long as possible… especially the PennState vs Indiana game where Hardy puts up 141yrds and 2TDs.
FortWorth….Give me a few mins.
by osmanBAE on
Apr 26, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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Davis
If Davis is still around when pick 55ish rolls around I’m hoping the Bills offer their 3rd, 4th and a 4th next year until someone accepts or until someone takes him off the board.
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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Stewart Mandel
from CNN/SI says that James Hardy was the most underrated WR in the draft.
“All I know is, for a league obsessed with size, the NFL, you would think, couldn’t go wrong with a guy who’s 6-foot-5 1/2, racked up 1,125 yards last season and scored 36 touchdowns in three years. Hardy was an absolutely dominant performer for the Hoosiers and there’s no reason to think he won’t become a go-to NFL receiver.”
by RabidBuffalo on
Apr 26, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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anybody think bennett will slip to the third?
i doubt it, but maybe to the bottom of the second where we could get him.
by thejimbo on
Apr 26, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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Hardy
nobody is degrading his skill level – but does his character risk outweigh his redzone production?
I’m a little concerned that people can just say he was young and made a mistake – it’s not like he just smoked a little weed or stole something – it was way worse. But he caught some tds so it’s all good.
I’m just saying Marv would not have approved.
by Benaconda on
Apr 26, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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Stupid interviews
They’re interviewing Henne now and asking how he’s staying relaxed. I’d think it was hysterical if some player, instead of giving the standard stock answer, said that his girlfriend was just below camera view making sure he was relaxed and feeling no pain.
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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Higher than I expected
but I like Jerome Simpson very much. I was hoping that the Bills would be able to pick him later.
by Fort Worth on
Apr 26, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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Again
I have been sick with a sinus infection and am now drinking heavily in celebration of McKelvin my #1 CB and Hardy my #1WR. Great day to be a Bills fan. Hardy made mistakes when he was young. So did McFadden. If he interviewed well, stayed out of trouble for 2 years now and the Bills checked him to have solid character then we just stole the best WR with the 41st pick. As i have said for the last 2 months this is the best compliment to Evans. Lets get them signed together for the next 5 years. Throw Parrish in the slot a solid O-line, 1 stud RB, 1 good backup RB and your offense is starting to look dangerous.
by Berg79 on
Apr 26, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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Be honest here..
Did you really call Leodis at 11, and Hardy in the 2nd? If you did….I tip my hat.
by krytime on
Apr 27, 2008 3:34 AM EDT
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Who would have thunk it?
Avery, Nelson, Hardy, Royal, and Simpson all came off the board betore Sweed and Kelly. Kelly’s knees must really be bad and Sweed must have shown deception when Mike Shanahan hooked him up to a polygraph and asked, “Did you ever kill a man in Reno just to watch him die?”
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Apr 26, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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DOES ANYONE WANT THE INDIANA GAMES?
first off, does anyone use bittorrent?.. secondly, i’m not going to waste my bandwidth if nobody wants these games.
by osmanBAE on
Apr 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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I'll pass.
The front office obviously thought he was the best WR in the draft (unless they had Nelson rated higher).
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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its just a P2P sharing protocol... its a way to share large files.
by osmanBAE on
Apr 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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Thanks
If you can provide it, I am interested.
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Apr 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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The Super Bowls Bills
Kelly had some domestic issues brushed under the table, other stars had some major things fly when Levy was around. The important thing is they were good people who dont make the same mistake twice. I think if Hardy’s character is high he wont make the same mistake again similar to the 87-89 bills who had a lot of problems in their youth.
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Apr 26, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Washington is up next
Sweed or Kelly should hear their name called. If they don’t then, man, something really must have scared teams away.
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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I would want to see the Indiana/PSU game again
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Apr 26, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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its not worth it if its just one guy... the way bittorrent works is the download speed is faster the more people are connected
... with just two people… then the download speeds are very slow. and the Ind/Penst game is 3gigs.
by osmanBAE on
Apr 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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If he's around
If not, the Bills could see how far Sweed and Kelly and Jackson slide down the board…
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Apr 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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not that we need him
but im shocked nobody has got connor yet?
by thejimbo on
Apr 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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redskins
Don’t they have Cooley? Why Fred Davis?
by Benaconda on
Apr 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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excellent point
it doesnt appear to be a wise pick
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Apr 26, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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What if...
Calais Campbell slips to our pick in the 3rd…. Take him and run, I think…. Though I want a TE….
by Cinga on
Apr 26, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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So, who would have been happy with the Redskins picks instead?
Devin Thomas & Fred Davis…
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Apr 26, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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Good pick by Philly to get DeSean
That’ll help Donavan alot
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
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Apr 26, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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Kelly
Wow – Malcolm Kelly must have really bad knees!!
If he’s on the board in the 3rd round will the Bills take him?
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Apr 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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I want to say no
But don’t know that I can.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
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Apr 26, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
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The Fred Davis pick still really baffles me
Not sure what the Skins are looking to do there
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
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Apr 26, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
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Gotta say though, AZ has been making some really solid picks today along with the Chiefs
Never would have thought I would ever say that about those two teams, ever.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
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Apr 26, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
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Skins
Maybe their new coach developed some double Tight End plays in Madden 08?
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Apr 26, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
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Strange drafting by Redskins
Thomas, Davis, and Kelly?
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Apr 26, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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2 big WRs not a bad thing
With that extra 2nd rounder the Skins can take a flyer on Kelly. You know he’s going to hae a100 pound plate sized chip on his shoulder.
If the Bills have any interest in Sweed they have to move up now as the next 3 teams all have WR needs. They might start plucking TEs as well.
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Apr 26, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
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Kelly finally off the board
Teams must really hate Sweed!
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Apr 26, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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the skins
just drafted the Bills’ fans pre-draft wet dream round 1 and 2!
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Apr 26, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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Jim Zorn
Is a very heavy proponent of the old school West Coast style football. Makes you wonder if he and Snyder aren’t looking to clear house after the draft?
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
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Zorn
wouldn’t you clean house BEFORE the draft?
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Apr 26, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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They got a lot of dead wood WR wise they may be looking to dump
Not that I would take any of it.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
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Apr 26, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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Are we done yet???
Anyone believe that we might make a trade to move back into the 2nd round???
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Apr 26, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
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I do
Unless the Bills believe a starting quality TE will fall to them in the 3rd I can’t see them staying put when moving up doesn’t cost all that much.
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Apr 26, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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I don't think the Bills will move up later today
We might shoot around the board a bit more tommorrow due to our 4tha dn 7th round picks,
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
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Apr 26, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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Finally
Sweed is now off the board – the Steelers took him. Don’t think the Bills will move up now.
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Apr 26, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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Glad that Sweed didn't go to the Flaming Thumbtacks
I just don’t want Vince Young to be happy…
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
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Titans have really puzzled me all day today with their draft picks
Steeler’s made out real well today
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Apr 26, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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Alright...
Gonna call it a day, relax, and access tomorrow… Will admit, I wasn’t thrilled with the McKelvin pick, but gotta think, the Bills also got their top rated receiver on the board to go with top CB on everyones board….
Will admit however, I don’t like this “streamlined draft” at all… Nor the coverage…. So far… KC wins the day, with their picks (albiet a lot of them)... Bills did really surprisingly well, standing pat…. Lookin’ forward to tomorrow….
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Apr 26, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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We’ll see you back here. Thanks for stopping by today!
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Apr 26, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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Agreed, KC had a good day.
Also nice – Baltimore, who traded the 8th and 38th picks for Joe Flacco, Ray Rice, two 3rds and a 4th.
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Ahhh Heck....
Joe P…. My ex is sitting in my living room right now!!! Still having visions!!! Of “BOOM”!!! ROFL!!!!!
by Cinga on
Apr 26, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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Gotta say, Parcells is scaring the crud outta me
He has drafted pretty well today
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
Apr 26, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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Hmmm..
Guess Brett Favre isn’t coming back, not with Brian Brohm going to the Packers. Poor Aaron Rogers – three years behind Favre and now Brohm might push him out!
by Krenn on
Apr 26, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Best quote
Don’t know how many people are watching the quotes on the bottom-right of the ESPN screen, but I love this one from a Fins fan:
“Jake Long is the right pick… but I wish they would have picked a player who I can actually have fun playing with in Madden ‘09.”
by Krenn on
Apr 26, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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Great day
thanks everyone was very interesting love the new format. looking forward to tomorrow should be good lots of picks.
Bills Fan in PA
by BILLS on
Apr 26, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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I was really hoping
Bennett would be there tomorrow. Oh well…
by thejimbo on
Apr 26, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Boiler
Dustin Keller is still there.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
by Calvert on
Apr 26, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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Nope
he’s gone too. First round to….I don’t remember, but he is gone.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Apr 26, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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For some reason
I was thinking Eagles. At least I had the green part right.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Apr 26, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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Pick 30 to the Jets.
That leaves Rucker, Kellen Davis, and Cottam as perhaps the next three TEs.
by Krenn on
Apr 26, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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Day one in the books
Funny how when the ESPN guys pick who they think the winners of the day are, it always seems to be the teams with the most picks.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Apr 26, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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Also
is it just me, or do the Bills always seem to get minimal coverage and props from the national media (ESPN, NFL Network, etc.)?
by Fort Worth on
Apr 26, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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It’s been like that for a very long while. It’s OK… we know just how good their day one picks were.
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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Dude, you are just noticing that now??
Been that way for as long as I can remember.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Apr 26, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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We need to win more to get more coverage
which hopefully will be this year, its looking good.
I’m really happy with the picks. I’ll see you all tomorrow (when I hope we will get Red Bryant and Owen Schmitt among others) see you then.
by thejimbo on
Apr 26, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
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Red Bryant
Anyone out there aside from me and thejimbo hoping to get Red?
by krytime on
Apr 26, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
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I would like to nab Red, but we may need to use a 3rd or 4th the way this draft is going
In order to get him. And I would really like to get someone to displace Fowler out of our 4th round picks. And it’ll take a 3rd to get a decent pass catching TE right now.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
Apr 26, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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Yeah, I know.
False hope, I guess. Even if the Bills win, they won’t get any respect.
by Fort Worth on
Apr 26, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
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Bills didn't deserve a lot of recognition
I’d say the Bills had an okay first couple of rounds. They got their top rated CB (every CB was on the board so he had to be their top rated guy) and one of their top rated WRs (Thomas and Nelson could have been higher rated). I hope both guys turn out to be good choices and contribute significantly this season but neither can be called a sexy pick.
by Ron From NM on
Apr 26, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
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By the way Brian
This has been the most fun I’ve had in a long time on draft day. Not to many Bills fans out here on the west coast to meet up with and share the fun, so thanks for having me in today so to speak.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
Apr 26, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
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Great day!!!!
I couldn’t believe that McKelvin was still onthe board at #11, and there had been only 2-3 receivers taken. Kelly sounds like a prima donna, and I’ve heard that Sweed may have injury concerns.
I saw an interview with Hardy, and he sounds like he understands what it’s going to take to excel at this level.
Anybody think we’ll take Cottam (TE, 6’8”, 265) in a later round?
I’m real excited to see what happens tomorrow
by Sward8 on
Apr 26, 2008 9:24 PM EDT
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Thanks To Brian
I am new to this site this year, but I think you do a good job running it and giving us Bills fans something to do during the off-season (I hate Basketball and Baseball).
Thanks Again!
by thejimbo on
Apr 26, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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Great Job, Brian! Great Job, Bills!
Know I haven’t posted in FOREVER, but I’m here reading and keeping up every day, and just wanted to throw in a “keep up the good work”. I started posting pretty much around draft day last year, so this is sort of a one year anniversary for me and Rumblings. It’s really become a great place for Bills fans.
Now that I’m done telling you things you already know, I’d just like to add how ecstatic I am about Buffalo’s opening draft day. Though I preferred DRC, the more I read about McKelvin, the happier I am with the pick. Seems like a nice corner and may finally be able to bump McGee from KR duties. Could see him as a cornerstone of the Bills D for years to come.
As the pick approached for Buffalo in round 2, I, unlike probably a lot of Bills fans, really wanted Hardy to be the pick. The guy is really a freak athletically and physically, and was simply kept out of the first because of some non-football stuff. I mean, the Bills are already a really, really high character team and can afford to take a risk on an “off-field past” guy like Hardy. I think his problems are behind him, and I look forward to him catching some…correction, many… 5-10 yard jump balls in the endzone from TE in the years to come.
Anyways, good job Brian and congrats on graduation soon, fellow Geneseo alum.
by nickfeely8 on
Apr 26, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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Good to see you, Nick. 22 days ‘til graduation… :)
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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You know who the speaker is yet?
Ours was the now-current Governor, then-Lieutenant Governor, David Patterson. Thanks, Mr. Spitzer!
by nickfeely8 on
Apr 26, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
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Heck… I can’t remember. Awesome that you had Patterson though. You will NEVER forget that speech, ever.
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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Redskins vs. Bills
Bills
Round 1 - McKelvin. Round 2 - Hardy.
Redskins
Round 2—Thomas, Fred Davis, Kelly.
I thought we were supposed to address WR and TE needs. I prefer much more with Redskins’ picks, especially the Bills could have pull similar trick. I have to admit, I’m somewhat disappointed.
You all know I’m not big on McKelvin. Hope Hardy might turn out good. I need to help myself breathe momentarily. Breathe in….breathe out…....
Just need to have faith with Modrak and Jauron. Their last 2 drafts had been good, so there’s something to count on.
Now that the facts are in, as a deadhard Bills fan there’s only 1 thing to say: Go Bills!
Bills fan half way around the world
by moncheri on
Apr 26, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
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I was surprised to see Washington so gung-ho about the offensive skill positions. They seem hell-bent on providing Jason Campbell all the tools he needs. Good for them. I like the strategy.
I can’t complain with how the Bills drafted, though. They followed their board and got two good bargain picks and immediate starters. That’s still hard to do, but they’ve done it for three years in a row.
Tomorrow should be fun!
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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Isn't the NFC East,...
going to be ridiculous? It’s not really fair to anybody in that division that all the teams there are so good. Man, I’m glad we played them all last season. I think if Houston would’ve taken Mendenhall when they had him available, the AFC South would’ve been able to compete with the NFC East for the best division in football, though.
by nickfeely8 on
Apr 26, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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Agree on both accounts (NFC East and AFC South). Houston’s draft strategy was an odd one. I wasn’t too keen on Dallas’ either, though, though they did have a nice pick with Jenkins.
I’m glad they’re behind us. Bring on the NFC West!
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 10:27 PM EDT
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No one ever really...
...gave any explanation as to why Rashard Mendenhall fell so far? I don’t think I read one mock where he was picked below 20, yet there he was slipping and slipping today. I really can’t figure it out. I think Pittsburgh really got a good steal there with a player I’m sure they never thought they would fall to them.
"my buffalo bills fandom is better than your buffalo bills fandom"- Thanks Nike!
by nickfeely8 on
Apr 26, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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I think teams were wary of the one year of production thing. Same situation with Devin Thomas. Ultimately, that will work out beautifully for Pittsburgh – they get a mega-talented back who won’t have to carry the load with Willie Parker in town. He eases into the starting role and has a long, illustrious career in the steel city. Fantastic pick by them.
by Brian Galliford on
Apr 26, 2008 10:35 PM EDT
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Agreed.
My favorite picks (other than Buffalo) for the first round were:
1. Mendenhall
2. Matt Ryan for Atlanta – I think the kid is the real deal, and the Falcons really needed someone to get excited about at QB.
3. Branden Albert for KC – I thought they realistically could’ve taken him at 5 without any real complaints (if Dorsey weren’t there), and then they ended up with him at 15. I really like his versatility and skill.
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by nickfeely8 on
Apr 26, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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My three favorite, non Buffalo picks are
1- Derrick Harvey going to Jacksonville, intially I was really surprised by it, but now that I think about how tough the AFC South is getting, it makes a whole lotta sense for them to shore up the pass rush.
2- Arizona getting DRC. I think this was a case where a team just got plain lucky and didn’t blow it. I think having DRC there will make the shift for Rolle over to Safety a much easier process, and will make it harder to throw the ball on them.
3- Pittsburgh getting Mednehall, wow, talk about luck falling into your lap, they are now getting a motivated player who can split reps with Willie his first couple of seasons there, nice pickup.
Worst three picks so far?
1- Seattle Seahawks
Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC
Seattle has other much bigger holes to fill on their team, and they took another pass rusher when they really could have used a DT instead, or a TE, or even a WR. I just don’t see the value here as some do.
2-New York Jets
Dustin Keller, TE, Notre Dame
I just don’t see how this pick will assist them to terribly much when a WR or DT would have been a better pick. Yes they have Gholston and Jenkins now, but it doesn’t mean they don’t need a real widebody in the trenches to keep the LBs clean. A WR would be of use as well as it would take pressure off of L-Cole and he would be able to stop whining.
3- Chicago Bears
Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
A very perplexing pick to me, it basically says that they don’t trust Benson, so why not draft Medenhall back in the 1st? But it also says that they trust, ulp, Rex Grossman, and when Brian Brohm and Chad Henne are both available, you just own up to the mistake, draft either one of the them, and let Orton and Grossman get punched in the mouth for a season before letting Henne or Brohm start so they stay healthy.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
Apr 26, 2008 11:04 PM EDT
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BTW.....
Brian, great job done here!
Bills fan half way around the world
by moncheri on
Apr 26, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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McKelvin
was a strong pick, he will adapt well to the NFL, after goin through a tough schedule last year he should be able to participate right off the bat
Bills make me wanna SHOUT!
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Apr 26, 2008 10:55 PM EDT
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