A (Very Early) Look at Buffalo's 2008 Roster
What's more fun on a Monday morning in May - from a football perspective, at least - than attempting to predict which 53 players from your favorite team will be lining up in front of your eyes this coming fall? That's exactly what we'll do this morning. With position-by-position breakdowns of the Buffalo Bills' 2008 roster just around the corner, I thought it would be prudent to take a look at the overall picture first, then break it down in the coming days.
So this is how I see the 2008 roster shaking out. Keep in mind that in the grand scheme of things, this exercise means very little; it is a topic that should, at the very least, bring about some interesting philosophical discussions, however.
Here's the positional breakdown. We'll avoid doing this depth chart style for now since, ultimately, I was playing a numbers game here. (It's not hard to figure out the depth chart, however.) Feel free to offer your own alternatives, pick apart my ideas, or ignore this exercise wholly. :)
Quarterback (3)
Starter: Trent Edwards
Reserves: J.P. Losman, Gibran Hamdan
Running Back (4)
Starter: Marshawn Lynch
Reserves: Fred Jackson, Dwayne Wright, Xavier Omon (R)
Fullback (1)
Starter: Mike Viti (R)
Wide Receiver (6)
Starters: Lee Evans, James Hardy (R)
Reserves: Josh Reed, Roscoe Parrish, Justin Jenkins, Steve Johnson (R)
Tight End (3)
Starter: Robert Royal
Reserves: Courtney Anderson, Derek Fine (R)
Offensive Tackle (3)
Starters: Jason Peters, Langston Walker
Reserve: Kirk Chambers
Offensive Guard/Center (5)
Starters: Derrick Dockery, Melvin Fowler, Brad Butler
Reserves: Jason Whittle, Christian Gaddis
Defensive End (5)
Starters: Aaron Schobel, Chris Kelsay
Reserves: Ryan Denney, Chris Ellis (R), Ryan Neill (LS)
Defensive Tackle (4)
Starters: Marcus Stroud, John McCargo
Reserves: Spencer Johnson, Kyle Williams
Outside Linebacker (5)
Starters: Angelo Crowell, Kawika Mitchell
Reserves: Keith Ellison, Blake Costanzo, Alvin Bowen (R)
Inside Linebacker (2)
Starter: Paul Posluszny
Reserve: John DiGiorgio
Cornerback (5)
Starters: Terrence McGee, Leodis McKelvin (R)
Reserves: Jabari Greer, Ashton Youboty, Reggie Corner (R)
Free Safety (2)
Starter: Ko Simpson
Reserve: George Wilson
Strong Safety (3)
Starter: Donte Whitner
Reserves: Bryan Scott, John Wendling
Kicker/Punter (2)
Starters: Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman
Notable Cuts: FB Darian Barnes, TE Teyo Johnson, TE Derek Schouman, OT Matt Murphy, OT Demetrius Bell (R), OG Duke Preston, DT Jason Jefferson, DT Corey Mace, CB William James, CB Kennard Cox (R)
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Hah
I do this same exercise a week or so after the draft and have been for as long as I can remember. I’m not sure why, it’s just some sort of tick I guess. Here’s our differences.
I kept: Darian Barnes, Matt Murphy, Robert Felton, Jason Jefferson, and William James over Hamdan, Omon, Viti, Gaddis, and Costanzo.
My tick requires me to include a practice squad in my projection which I predict as:
QB Matt Baker, RB Xavier Omon, FB Mike Viti, TE Derek Schouman, OT Demetrius Bell, DL Corey Mace, LB Jon Banks, CB Kennard Cox….alla nd all, we’re not far off.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
May 12, 2008 10:08 AM EDT
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Two quarterbacks? I considered it, because the Bills did it at the outset of ‘07 with JP and Trent, but I think they learned their lesson once both got hurt. I think they keep three.
I think your OL is skewed, too – the Bills usually only have 7 active linemen on game day (starters, 1 OT and 1 OG), one inactive, and one or two on the practice squad. That’s why I went with 8 – I can see where you’re coming from with Felton over Gaddis though.
I have the feeling that Jefferson will somehow stick around; I just couldn’t have them keeping 10 defensive linemen here. That’s too many.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:14 AM EDT
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My defense
I think keeping a QB on the practice squad effectively fills the 3rd QB role since that player is practicing with the team and can be activated the week after an injury if need be…I feel like Murphy is a project player for the Bills and he doesn’t have practice squad eligibility left. In the interm, he projects as a useful player for goal line packages on gameday because of his background as a TE. I don’t think Neill projects to play any DL this year so I view my roster as keeping 9 DL and 3 kicking game specialists…
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
May 12, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
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Agree on Neil
He is really just the LS who can play DE in a pinch.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 10:22 AM EDT
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LS
Anybody know who else can potentially LS? I’m not high on using a roster spot again this year on a LS who’s not all that great…I’d love for a player who can play elsewhere manning that role this year, if possible…
~K
by Kurupt on
May 12, 2008 10:26 AM EDT
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The only guy that comes to mind is Whittle, but I’ve NO idea if he’s capable of this. If he could long snap, that’d be very valuable. If only…
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:28 AM EDT
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I know Felton can.
Whittle can too, but the Bills like him for other roles on special teams already. I’d love to just use Felton there and cut Neill…if Felton shows he can do it, I’d project keeping Schouman over Neill.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
May 12, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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Mike Schneck?
Oh no, we let him walk…
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on
May 12, 2008 1:11 PM EDT
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I like your argument about Murphy. The goal line package thing is a good point.
I get the Neill argument, too, I guess, though I think he still factors into the numbers game at end. He rushed the quarterback on occasion last season, especially early on when there were injuries. He’ll see the field again in that capacity, though in a very limited role.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:31 AM EDT
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Murphy
I was thinking that he’d be a solid guy to keep assuming we had drafted a receiving TE in the draft. Of course, we picked Fine, who is more of a blocking TE, so I don’t know if Murphy will be needed.
Neill rushed the QB when we had no one else available. The guy did nothing out there either. He was as useless as Jason Jefferson.
~K
by Kurupt on
May 12, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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2 QB's
That’s what I’ll think they’ll keep. We’ve gone with 2 QB’s for a few years now. Last year’s injuries required the signing of Hamdan, but I don’t think he’s necessary at the outset this year. Anybody know if he has PS eligibility?
I agree with Josh Reed’s biggest fan that the 3rd QB can be on the PS for all intents and purposes.
The only thing I worry about is who fills the ‘emergency QB’ role that Freddie manned for a while last year. Don’t we need to fill that spot each week?
~K
by Kurupt on
May 12, 2008 10:25 AM EDT
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Viti a starter
What do you base this on? Now, I do like the idea of it, but I am not sure there is any fact to this.
That will be a big battle between Viti and Barnes and I do hope the rookie prevails.
The Bills can win every game
by killascript on
May 12, 2008 10:18 AM EDT
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There isn’t any fact to any of this, killascript – it’s all speculation right now. Call my Viti pick gut feeling. The Bills have two big running backs (Wright and Omon) and can always sign back some of the tight ends I have them releasing (Massaquoi, Schouman), so I only kept one fullback. Viti was a guy that the Bills considered drafting – he’s got special teams potential, and he’s a solid lead blocker with room to grow (as a player, not physically). Barnes is just your average dime-a-dozen veteran fullback. Viti’s the guy for those reasons.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
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And the Bills like his leadership potential
And don’t forget the fact that it is a good PR move to have the kid make the roster of the team in blue collar Buffalo where a lot of people go into the military. I think he will beat Barnes out no matter what since the kid didn’t miss games with injury and proved he could plow people and catch the ball at Army, and he is cheaper to keep than Barnes. So I think with everything, PR, Cost and Skills he wins the spot.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
May 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
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Pardon the slip up
I was just wondering if there was a consensus among those with more knowledge on Viti being the sole true fullback left on the roster. I love it, and if he beats out a guy like Barnes it means as a rookie he can beat out an average to belwo average player, which at the very least gives me some confidence. He is the type of player I watch preseason for, so I hope it all works.
The Bills can win every game
by killascript on
May 13, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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I see
Felton, Banks, and McCray making this team.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 10:23 AM EDT
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Who does McCray make the team over? The top four DEs are virtual locks. We need that fifth end (Neill) because he’s our long snapper. Are you saying McCray makes it over Kyle Williams?
I like these three UDFAs you mention, but I just don’t see four of them (Viti included) making the opening day roster. We’re not that thin.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:26 AM EDT
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Lose
Costanzo or Ellison, to free up a spot for Banks, Lose Hamdan to free up Felton’s spot and lose Wright to make room for McCray.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 10:26 AM EDT
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Ellison stays – the coaches like him. I can see Banks for Costanzo. You’re thinking 10 defensive linemen, too? I get the argument that Neill is solely a long snapper, but I disagree – I think he figures in to the numbers at DL.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:27 AM EDT
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I see Neil
As just the LS. So to me it’s just 9. I think the McCray and Spencer Johnson can both play DE in goal line situations, I really like that versatility. If McCray goes to the practice squad i can live with that, I just don’t want to lose him.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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OK, I get that. So you’re saying McCray over Jefferson, essentially?
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:32 AM EDT
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Yes sir
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 10:33 AM EDT
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Jefferson
To me he has spent 2 years on this team and given very little production. He was a warm body. I would really like to see a guy who can offer something a little more than just taking up space.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 10:35 AM EDT
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I agree about Jefferson, but since we’re talking about a #5 DT here, I don’t think we bother with a guy like McCray if it means freeing up a roster spot for someone with special teams potential – Jenkins, Costanzo, etc. etc.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
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Costanzo
I would rather keep someone who can play a position. I hated that this team kept Stamer around, and we watched all the injuries pile up at LB and putting him on the field wasn’t even an option. To me Blake is the same guy. I would prefer a guy like Banks, who has a little more upside.
I like McCray’s fire and pass rush skills from the DT spot. IMHO he needs to at the very least make the PS.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 10:47 AM EDT
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As I said below, I simply kept Costanzo over Banks because he’s bigger. Ellison and Bowen are light guys… we need a little more size at Crowell’s back up spot, IMO. That’s why I stuck with Costanzo.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:48 AM EDT
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SLB
I think Buffalo might view Mitchell as the backup to Crowell and they could move Ellison or Bowen into the lineup if Crowell were to go down…just a guess based on their current roster.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
May 12, 2008 10:50 AM EDT
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That’s possible, and I think that is the long-term plan; I think Mitchell was signed to replace Crowell, who is a free agent after this season.
I just like the idea of having that third beefy linebacker on the outside that’s just as efficient on special teams as guys like Banks.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:52 AM EDT
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I think if Crowell went down MItchell would move over
And Bowen goes into the Lineup in Mitchell’s spot, the Bills have NO problem putting rookies out onto the field and expecting them to perform.
Besides, I would rather shoot myself in the head than watch Ellison either get snowplowed by a running back again, miss an angle for a tackle, or just mess up his assignement like he does 75% of the time.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
May 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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Besides, I would rather shoot myself in the head than watch Ellison either get snowplowed by a running back again, miss an angle for a tackle, or just mess up his assignement like he does 75% of the time.
I couldn’t agree more. Ellison is downright awful and has been for the 2 years he’s been here. I still can’t believe some people considered his rookie year a success….
~K
by Kurupt on
May 12, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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McCray to the PS
makes all the sense in the world, IMO.
I don’t see the need for a 5th DT at the start of the season. I would much rather have a guy stashed on the PS, while keeping a ST elsewhere on the opening day roster.
~K
by Kurupt on
May 12, 2008 10:47 AM EDT
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Jefferson/Murphy
I see Jefferson & Murphy probably on the PS but I see both of them called up if any injuries happen right away. Murphy and Bell can be developmental projects and Jefferson provides depth at a position that we are really lacking.
MARVelous
by MARVelous on
May 12, 2008 10:27 AM EDT
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We’re lacking depth at DT? Stroud, McCargo, Spencer Johnson, Kyle Williams looks pretty solid to me – one of the deepest positions on the team, if you ask me.
I don’t think either of these guys have PS eligibility left.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:29 AM EDT
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They don't
That why I think Buffalo keeps them over Schouman and McCray/Mace, who do have practice squad eligibility left.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
May 12, 2008 10:34 AM EDT
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Yeah if they all stay healthy….I really doubt they will. Stroud is unpredictable…..
MARVelous
by MARVelous on
May 12, 2008 10:48 AM EDT
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Sure, I get that too, but why keep five on the roster if you can stash a guy like Mace or McCray on the practice squad? Same argument as QB…
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:49 AM EDT
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A few things
1. 2 QB’s only
2. Not sure Viti would be my #1 FB choice. If he makes the team, I’d imagine we have another FB on the roster as well. Maybe even a guy like Schouman who lined up there last year at times. I like Schouman’s receiving skills and am beginning to think he has a solid chance of making the team as a 4th TE/semi-FB role. I have to think Barnes is the #1 at this point.
3. Agree with your OL choices. I think keeping 8 can be done just fine.
4. I mentioned above hoping we can find a LS elsewhere, as in someone who plays an actual position too.
5. I think we keep 6 CB’s for sure. We saw all the injuries last year and we have guys like Greer and Youboty who are good ST players as well. I have to believe James makes it because of his size and ability to play the slot.
6. Six LB’s for me. Blake Costanzo can be cut without me losing sleep. I’d keep 2 LB’s on the PS in case of injury.
7. I like Felton, so him over Gaddis is very realistic to me.
Why is Corey Mace a notable cut? Who?
~K
by Kurupt on
May 12, 2008 10:35 AM EDT
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Ha… Mace was on the roster at the end of last season… that doesn’t make him notable? :)
As far as FB goes – I like the idea of having two big backs (Wright, Omon), one FB, and the ability to re-sign a guy like Schouman or Massaquoi to fill the void. I definitely DON’T think we keep two fullbacks. I just don’t think Barnes gives us anything Viti doesn’t other than experience.
I had a real hard time making decisions in the defensive backfield. If we do go the 6-CB route, I like James over either Wilson or Simpson. I had Ko Simpson on my initial list of cuts, but swapped him out for James, who I don’t think has a great shot at making the roster.
I’m not married to Costanzo either, but he’s a solid special teams guy, and the Bills have routinely kept 7 linebackers under Jauron. Replace him with Banks if you want, but I like Costanzo’s added weight as a potential backup to Crowell on the strong side. We’re real light in our outside linebacking corps.
Felton over Gaddis is doable for me, and it’s a virtual lock if Felton can long snap, as SuperFan mentioned above.
by Brian Galliford on
May 12, 2008 10:46 AM EDT
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Man I'm glad I don't have to make these cuts in real life.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 10:49 AM EDT
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But if I were
QB: Trent, J.P.
RB: Lynch, F-Jack, Omon
FB: Viti
WR: Lee, Hardy, Roscoe, Reed, Johnson, Jenkins
TE: Royal, Fine, Anderson
OL: Peters, Walker, Chambers, Dock, Fowler, Butler, Whittle, Felton, Gaddis
DE: Schobel, Kelsay, Ellis, Denney (only because I have to), Neill (LS)
DT: Stroud, McCargo, Johnson, Williams, McCray
LB: Poz, DiGi, Crowell, Mitchell, Bowen, Banks, Ellison
CB: McGee, McKelvin, Greer, Corner, Youboty
S: Whitner, Scott, Wendling, Simpson, Wilson
P/K: Moorman, Lindell
PS : Scouman, Drone, ????
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 11:20 AM EDT
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Don't forget Demetrius Bell to PS
The Bills really like the kid since he learns real quick, and with a couple of seasons on the PS, he could become a beast. He took up LT in only a couple of seasons and became a All-American at it, admittedly not at the highest level, but still getting that tag isn’t easy at any division whether its D1, D1-AA, D2 or D3. Plus he is big and can gain alot of muscle mass on his frame still without it affecting him and he has good feet.
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
May 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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4 RBs
I have never liked the idea of keeping 4 RBs. 3 RBs is plenty - when will the 3rd RB ever play, let alone the 4th? Better be a great ST player to stick as a 4th RB (especially since we are going to keep a FB). I doubt that Oman or Wright could really play a legit FB as a backup. An extra CB or OL helps the team more. I think 8 OL is quite low. 4 RBs is like having 3 backups for one position, while 8 OLs is having 0.6 backups for each position - and since Gaddis can only play C, its really like 2 backups for 4 starting positions.
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May 12, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
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RB's
Well we kept 5 RB’s to start the season last year, so 4 wouldn’t surprise. Wright also played some ST last year, so I’d expect the same for him this year. Omon will need to play ST if he wants to stick.
I think Gaddis can played Guard too. I like Felton more, but we do need a guy who can play C as a backup and if that’s Gaddis, so be it.
~K
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May 12, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
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Gaddis
If I’m not seriously mistaken, didn’t he line up as a pass eligible tackle at times last year? I know he didn’t catch a pass, it was more like an extra tackle in goal line situations, but I’m pretty sure he did that.
I don’t know if that means he can play tackle, but it does lend to his versatility.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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When was he active for games?
I thought he was on the PS for most of the season and was “called up” in the final month. I seem to remember his name on the inactive list much of that time for each game. I’m probably wrong, but I really have no recollection of him playing….
~K
by Kurupt on
May 12, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
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O.K. looked it up
He was on the PS for weeks 1-10, on the 53 man roster but inactive for weeks 11-16 and actually played in week 17 vs. the Eagles. BUT IN THAT GAME he came in tackle eligible.
So no you aren’t wrong.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
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You're thinking Chambers
Chambers lined up occasionally as a tackle eligible. On a few occasions the Bills lined up Walker as a tackle eligible next to Peters and put Gaines in at RT.
by Ron From NM on
May 12, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
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Practice Squad
How many players can be on the practice squad? I thought 7.
I think you will see Omon, Johnson, Viti, Harndan, Schoman, Bell, Cox. However, if Viti is solid and makes the team Barnes will be cut and free up another practice squad spot. I see either Anderson or Johnson making the team, I see 6 CB’s. I see 5 WR’s. I am going to go on a very unpopular limb and say Scott gets cut and Jefferson finds his way onto the roster. I believe a final decision on the secondary spots will be between Scott, James, & Youbouty with 2 making the squad. If Corner needs time he could go to the practice squad. Again, I am not sure how the practice squad exactly works…do other teams get a chance to put those players on the roster first? If so Corner makes the team same w. Omon & Johnson.
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May 12, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
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Practice squad
I think you can keep 8 as long as 1 is a QB, so 1QB and 7 others.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
May 12, 2008 12:16 PM EDT
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i will guess
QB – Edwards, Losman
RB – Lynch, Jackson, Wright
FB – Barnes, Viti
TE – Royal, Fine, Anderson, Teyo
WR – Evans, Hardy, Reed, Parrish, Jenkins
OL – Peters, Dockery, Fowler, Butler, Walker, Chambers, Whittle, Estes, Murphy
DE – Schobel, Kelsay, Denney, Ellis
DT – Stroud, McCargo, Williams, Johnson
LB – Crowell, Poz, Mitchell, Digiorgio, Ellison, Bowen
CB – McGee, McKelvin, Greer, Corner, Youboty, James
S – Whitner, Simpson, Wilson, Scott, Wendling
ST – Lindell, Moorman, Neill
Practice Squad – Matt Baker, Xavier Omon, Robert Felton, Demetrius Bell, Steve Johnson, Jason Jones, Corey Mace, Teraz McCray, Jon Banks, Blake Costanzo, Kennard Cox
gone for good – Duke Preston, Derek Schouman, Gibran Hamdan, Copeland Bryan, Shaun Nua, Dustin Fox, Jason Jefferson, Nevin McCaskill, Tim Massaquoi, Felton Huggins, Scott Mayle
On the callback list (could re-emerge on the PS once injuries force players onto the IR)
– Jon Corto, Daniel Watts, Jonathan Evans, DJ Fitzpatrick, Christian Gaddis, Marcus Buggs, Luke Drone, Bruce Hall
Why I made some choices:
Duke Preston AND Christian Gaddis CUT – This is the least likely thing I have happening. It leaves the Bills with only Whittle on the active roster and Felton on the practice squad with the ability to play center. I just don’t like Duke Preston at all. I also think it is a good move for the future. I like Chambers’ and Estes’ ability to play guard if need be. I also think Felton is the potential long-term answer to Preston’s current G/C combo backup position.
Steve Johnson on PS – I don’t think he is anywhere near ready. If he were on the 53 man he would probably be inactive for every game of the year. I don’t think anyone will swoop him up if he is on the practice squad as most teams have several “project” WRs already on their rosters.
Only 2 QBs – I think two QBs on the 53 man roster is the wave of the future. There were at least 20 teams to start the season with only 2 QBs and I think that number should stay about the same. I also don’t think any team would steal Baker, Hamdan or Drone off of our PS because none of them are actually worth a roster spot.
Omon on PS/ 2 FBs on 53 man – I just don’t think this team needs 4 RBs. I find it unlikely that Omon or Wright give the Bills anything more than a warm body on the bench, I don’t think either one is useful enough on special teams to merit them both making the team. I think Omon is also safe on the PS. I think the loser of the Barnes/Viti has more value as a ST player than a RB, so I left two on the 53 man. One of the two will probably be inactive some of the time.
Teyo Johnson / Matt Murphy – I think Teyo takes care of the 5th/6th WR role as well as a receiving threat at TE. I think Murphy could be very useful blocking on kick returns and in short yardage formations. the Bills TEs are a weakness and I guess I tried to hide that problem by keeping 4 (5 if you count Murphy). I think throwing numbers at the situation does give the team the versatility it needs to find some production. I also don’t have much confidence in Courtney Anderson.
Jason Jefferson – I don’t think he is much better than Mace or McCray would be and the Bills can stash those two on the PS. Again, I don’t see much value in putting players on the 53 man roster if the only way they will be active is injuries.
6 LBs – I don’t think the special teams coverage and return units were as hurt by FA as people think. Wendling and Jenkins should make for great gunners and the rest of the punt coverage team can be fill-ins. Kick Coverage lost some players, but few of them were all that productive covering kicks. Players like Youboty, James, Bowen, Ellison, Barnes, Viti, Scott, Ellis and Fine could all potentially fill a role on special teams. The kick return unit could improve by keeping Matt Murphy, Derek Fine and 2 FBs.
Other stuff:
Keeping Matt Baker over Hamdan and Drone is just a hunch. I also believe he has the best arm of the three.
Tim Massaquoi is made irrelevant if the Bills keep Matt Murphy.
Blake Costanzo at 235 pounds isn’t all that much bigger than Ellison (229), Banks (232) and even Digiorgio (229)
Nobody talks about Jason Jones, but I think his chances of making the team are almost as good as Steve Johnson. That might be because I think Johnson is a little bit of a longshot.
I like the versatility of Corey Mace and feel like he could easily fill Jason Jefferson’s role of useless backup at DE and DT without taking up a roster spot.
I’ve said this before, but if Derek Schouman makes this team, I will be shocked. He isn’t a TE and he isn’t a FB and the Bills already have 5 other TEs and 3 other FBs trying to make this team.
I bet Jon Corto finds his way back on to the practice squad at some point, even if he doesn’t make it initially.
by kaisertown on
May 12, 2008 12:57 PM EDT
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I like your 53 man roster
except I would expect the Bills to keep a 3rd QB (probably Baker) and cut Estes. Also, they may keep Murphy instead of Anderson.
Your practice squad lineup – I would expect Mace, Costanzo, and Cox to be out the door at the end of training camp.
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on
May 12, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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yeah
I will stand strong about my 2 QB philosophy. I just think none of the QBs (Baker, Hamdan, Drone) are good enough to be picked up by other teams. I’m also not of fan of putting players on the 53 man roster who won’t ever be active until someone gets hurt. You might be right about the Bills keeping three, It’s just my personal opinion that they should only keep two.
You are probably right about Estes. I just felt like throwing a “sleeper pick” into the mix. I dislike Duke Preston so strongly, that I chose an unlikely scenario so that I could keep him off the team in my prediction.
I did keep Murphy on the 53 man roster. Something tells me that he will make the team. He can contribute on special teams and short yardage situations while he bulks up enough to play tackle and he learns the position. Even if he is inactive for some games, he will at least be safe from other teams poaching him away from the Bills.
I screwed up the practice squad. I wasn’t paying attention and put 11 players on it, but the Bills can only keep 8. If I were to re-do the PS, I would drop Costanzo, Cox and Jason Jones (for now, I really want to see him play in the preseason). I like Mace as much as I like Jason Jefferson (not much, but he has some usefulness) and I kept Mace around because as a PS player he can be an emergency backup at both DE and DT. I’m really not a fan of Cox, I don’t know why I kept him around.
Thanks for the input.
by kaisertown on
May 12, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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A new name to consider
Instead of Gaddis, Whittle or Preston, why not Ruben Brown? He’s a free agent, has a home in Buffalo and a positive history with the Bills. He’s coming off of shoulder surgery and is past his prime so he might be inclined to take a backup gig. He’d certainly be an upgrade over Preston and likely better than Gaddis or Whittle. The only knock on him is that he’s never played center so he could only be a backup guard.
by Ron From NM on
May 12, 2008 3:27 PM EDT
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Do you really
want to hear “False start, offense, #79, 5 yards” again, several times a game?
Aside from that, I liked Ruben as a player, but I don’t see the Bills’ brass going in that direction.
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on
May 12, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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False starts vs Preston
You bet! I’d much prefer Ruben Brown’s single drive killing penalty per game than Preston’s multiple drive killing screw ups per game. Now, I don’t necessarily see OBD offering a backup role to Brown but he’d be better than Preston at the very least. I saw a story on buffalobills.com about McCaskill taking snaps at center. I haven’t seen him play but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Buffalo let him give Fowler a serious run for starting center. Jauron and company can’t be happy with what they’ve seen out of Fowler. As we saw with the Butler-Preston competition, Jauron will pull the trigger on starting a rookie if he thinks the rookie is the better player. Look out Fowler! (Damn, that was satisfying to type!)
While I’m on the subject of rookies, look out Josh Reed. (That was nowhere near as satisfying to type.) If Steve Johnson can show practically anything I wouldn’t be surprised to see him as the #3 or #4 with the receivers order as Evans-Hardy-Johnson-Parrish or Evans-Hardy-Parrish-Johnson. Sorry, Reeed-haters. I still think Reed will make the team based on experience and a relatively low salary.
by Ron From NM on
May 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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Reed
he’ll make it because he’s the only one that can block worth a damn. That aspect of his game should not be overlooked.
I hope Stevie Johnson makes this team because he has some talent and plenty of room for improvement. If he can play ST’s, Jenkins could be the odd man out, though I would rather keep them both.
~K
by Kurupt on
May 12, 2008 10:27 PM EDT
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Didn’t the Colts draft 3 Centers? I think Richard, the most likely to be cut, is a possible target for the Bills as a backup center.
QB: Trent, JP
RB: Lynch, Jackson, Wright
FB: Barnes
TE: Royal, Anderson, Johnson
WR: Evans, Hardy, Reed, Parrish, Jenkins
OT: Peters, Walker, Chambers
OG: Butler, Dockery, Whittle, Gaddis
C: Fowler, ?( another team’s cut)
DE: Schobel, Kelsay, Denney, Ellis, Neil (really an ST guy)
DT: Stroud, McCargo, Williams, Johnson (doubles as DE)
LB: Mitchell, Poz, Crowell, Ellison, Digiorgio, Bowen.
CB: McGee, McKelvin, Greer, Youboty, James, Corner
S: Whitner, Simpson, Wilson, Wendling
P/K: Lindell, Moorman
That leaves us 4 spots unfilled, including backup center, where I predict some new blood. I think those 3 are given out with an eye to ST that I don’t quite have. Some of those guys I picked with ST in mind, but I’m not sure what April sees, and that’s what matters here.
PS: Drone, Fine, Johnson, Bell, Omon, Viti
by Hopefulcynic on
May 12, 2008 6:59 PM EDT
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The Colts
They drafted 3 players who played center in college, but they are supposedly planning on starting Mike Pollack (who they took in the 2nd round) at G along with Ryan Lilja. their O-Line should go:
LT – Tony Ugoh
LG – Ryan Lilja
C – Jeff Saturday
RG – Mike Pollack
RT – Ryan Diem
Steve Justice will probably be the primary backup at center.
Michael Touduze and Charlie Johnson are battling for the backup tackle spot.
Dyland Gandy and Jamey Richard are battling for the backup as the C/G combo player.
It would be a solid move for the Bills to grab Richard if the Colts put him on the practice squad. I would like to see the Bills find a player like Richard to take Preston or Whittle’s backup role.
by kaisertown on
May 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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Reed over Parrish?
Im not sure if you intended to do this or not but you put Reed down before Parrish indicating you’d have him starting over our future little Wes Welker. Even if hes never really that good I still think that the abiltity and skill of Roscoe far exceeds that of Reed. I really think that if Schonert runs the offense well having Parrish in the slot would be so much more valuable than Reed
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by ArenZimm on
May 12, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Our Future Wes Welker?
When was Parrish drafted again? He’s good, but he’s not Wes Welker. Reed is a better blocker, and he worked pretty well with Trent last year. He’s a bit more reliable. Parrish has the ability to break one, but so does Evans. Also, Parrish will see time as a return man, so that may mean they give Reed a bigger role. The most important thing is that the coaches like Reed.
and Kasier, I wouldn’t mind seeing Preston go, but I’m a big Whittle fan. I think he’s a good backup.
by Hopefulcynic on
May 12, 2008 11:12 PM EDT
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Reed is currently ahead of Parrish on the depth chart. He’s a natural slot receiver, and he’d also be the guy to start (over Parrish) should Evans or Hardy go down (please, guys, don’t go down…). I like Parrish, but he’s not “our future little Wes Welker” – he’ll never be that productive. Right now, Reed’s the guy.
by Brian Galliford on
May 13, 2008 6:34 AM EDT
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would he really? He has in the past, but I’m not so sure. If Evans goes down, I could see us using Parrish there. His skill set is quite similar. He isn’t as good, but he brings the same deep threat. Reed might start for his blocking ability (because if Evans goes down, we become a running team) but in passing situations Parrish would be on the field, and probably in Lee’s spot.
by Hopefulcynic on
May 13, 2008 9:50 PM EDT
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