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Addressing the Favre to Buffalo Idea

We've discussed the possibility of quarterback Brett Favre becoming a Miami Dolphin.  But the media buzz surrounding the Packers quarterback (at least, I think he's still a Packers quarterback...) has, at least on a highly speculative and rumor-mongering level, now included the Buffalo Bills.

Several news outlets, most notably the folks at ESPN (big surprise), speculated over this past weekend that Favre could wind up in a cold-weather, "QB unsettled" city such as Buffalo (the Dolphins and Jets were also mentioned, of course).  Such speculation led WGR 550 this morning to run a poll measuring the potential impact of a Favre-to-Buffalo move in a "fun", yet still sort of serious way.  Even Bob Matthews of The Democrat and Chronicle has joined in on the Favre-to-Buffalo bandwagon (sort of).  The main argument is that for a team that hasn't been to the playoffs since 1999, trading for Favre - even if he's only here for a season - would be worth it just to take a stab at ending that drought.

Sure, this may be a "fun" topic to discuss, but only if you're in the business of fantasy and delusions.  Brett Favre isn't coming to Buffalo.  The reasons?  Dick Jauron and team chemistry.

Favre Not a Fit in Buffalo
I'll admit: the idea of the Bills making a trade for Brett Favre, while incredibly far-fetched, is enticing.  To me, it's similar to the move the team made for Drew Bledsoe a few years back - no, that move didn't work out well, but boy, did it bring the hype.  Favre, even at age 38, is better than Bledsoe, so it's easy to assume that he'd have more impact in Buffalo than Bledsoe did as well.

But ultimately, having a duo of veteran and kid quarterback in this league leads to a mess.  Just look at the Packers - they thought they had the perfect situation, where Aaron Rodgers would take over once Favre retired.  That hasn't worked out so well.  It didn't work out well in Buffalo, either, when the Bills had to flat-out release Bledsoe to get J.P. Losman into the starting lineup.  The team would be facing a similar situation here with Trent Edwards.

The biggest reason, however, that Favre has literally a 0% chance of coming to Buffalo is that his style doesn't mesh well with the style of head coach Dick Jauron.  Buffalo's head coach prefers an offensive unit that is calculated and minimizes mistakes; Favre's style has always been gunslinger, balls-to-the-wall, and it's exactly not the type of quarterback that Jauron prefers.

The Effects on Team
Another little-discussed issue is what effects that a sudden move for Favre would have on a team that is, by and large, ready to make more on-field improvements.  What message does it send to Trent Edwards - he's our guy, but he's not really our guy because we're willing to take a shot with a diva future Hall of Famer?  What message does it send to the team's young leadership?

A move for Favre has a far more likely chance of ruining what chemistry the team already has than improving it.  Edwards' development is hurt - not from an on-field standpoint as much as being "the guy" in the locker room.  That's where Edwards really needs to make strides this season - he needs to be Buffalo's go-to guy, the leader of the offense, the face of the franchise.  If Favre comes in, he briefly owns that role - and then Buffalo's back to finding his replacement.

To that end, perhaps the strongest argument to make against bringing Favre in is this: hasn't Buffalo's biggest problem of the past decade been finding the successor to Jim Kelly?  Brett Favre doesn't solve that problem, folks - he merely delays the answer.  That's not forward progress for this franchise, it's a sidestep.  This team is too young to be taking sidesteps with iffy personnel decisions.  This team needs to keep digging for the answer to the question of Kelly's heir.  Maybe they've found the answer in Edwards, maybe not.  Either way, having Favre in town delays the revelation of that answer.

The Difference Between Playoffs and Contender
I'm just like any other Bills fan - I want Buffalo to end its playoff drought in a bad way.  I just want to see it done the right way - and mortgaging out large chunks of salary to an end-of-the-road quarterback isn't the way to do it.  I don't want our playoff drought to end in the fashion of one playoff season, back to the drawing board - I want a Bills team that can compete year in and year out for the league's top prize.  We're building toward that.  Favre stunts that growth, even if the short-term effects are positive.

So if there are Bills fans who want to live this fantasy out for a little while longer, have at it.  It's a nice distraction.  If, however, you're like me, you'll be spending the next 10 days until training camp focusing on the realities of the 2008 Buffalo Bills - a team that will not include Brett Favre.

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Absolutely Right

I like Favre a lot, but I don’t want him to be a Buffalo Bill at this point. Even without bringing in a talented verteran QB like Favre, I kind of like Buffalo’s chances of getting to the playoffs this year. Buffalo has to stand behind its new QB (Edwards) and give him the same chance that Green Bay will likely give Rogers this year. The alternative would just result in another year of the same old quarterback controversy that has gone on since Kelly retired. Simply put, I want Edwards to become the next franchise QB. I’m tired of waiting and bringing Farve in would only mean more waiting.

Luckily, it doesn’t seem possible that Favre would land in Buffalo except maybe as a Dolphin.

by Optimist on Jul 14, 2008 1:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Back and Forth

Part of me thinks this is a good idea, part of me doesnt just like everyone else. I think Edwards stands to gain a lot if Brett Farve was here for 1 year and 1 year only. However, if we have more than playoff aspirations for 2010 (and I believe if Edwards progesses we could be a SB contender in 2010) then we are only stunting the frachises growth. However, I do truly believe we have a better chance to get to the playoffs in ‘08-09 with Farve as the starter.

Farve’s salary makes this impossible in my opinion.

by Berg79 on Jul 14, 2008 1:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah, you’re right about the salary. I’m pretty sure that Favre was set to earn around $12 million next season. With all of the contracts that the Bills need to dole out, they simply can’t afford Favre.

by Brian Galliford on Jul 14, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Favre

“Buffalo’s head coach prefers an offensive unit that is calculated and minimizes mistakes.” That’s a very diplomatic way of admitting that the 400 pound gorilla in the room exists- that gorilla is the fact that Dick Jauron is afraid of his own shadow and consequently, his seven years as a head coach has never produced adequate results on offense or a good NFL QB.. Seriously, Dick, the psychiatric community has made wonderful advances since your Yale days; a little self help could do wonders for your job performance…I agree with Brian Galliford’s basic article premise as far as not chasing Favre, however, for different reasons. Would I love to have Favre playing QB for the Bills in 2008? Sure (and I’m NOT a Favre fan); just look at his 2007 stats and compare them to Edwards. But, let’s face it. Hall of Fame QBs don’t come out of retirement to leave a team that played in the NFC Championship last year to go to a team with a decade long playoff drought. Why make it even less likely that Edwards improves enough for the Bills to contend when Favre playing in Buffalo is nothing more than a pipe dream. If Favre (or any other decent NFL QB) could be had, I say bring them in here and make Edwards prove he’s the better QB to win the job. But as far as kidding yourself that Favre would play for Buffalo in 2008, I’d rather give Edwards less to worry about until something realistic comes along or Edwards’ PLAY makes window shopping unnecessary (whichever comes first).

Never forget 56-10. Revenge.

by SuperFan82 on Jul 14, 2008 2:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh, Nick… I knew you’d be the first to comment on Jauron. You rarely let me down. :)

Whatever opinions y’all might have on Jauron, it’s very obvious that Favre isn’t his type of quarterback.

by Brian Galliford on Jul 14, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A lot of the commentary on Jauron...

...may not be relevant depending on how long a leash he is willing to let Schonert have and all of the impressions we’ve gotten so far is that Turk wants to open up the offense a lot. If Jauron was unwilling to do that in these particular circumstances, I think he would have chosen a different offensive coordinator.

It is possible that Jauron is learning from his own mistakes, realizing that his offensive skills are relatively limited and he just got rid of an ultra-conservative assistant in Fairchild knowing how badly he damaged the team’s offense by his playcalling. I think that DJ might indeed be willing to give his coordinator and quarterback enough rope to either succeed or hang himself. If there is a dramatic improvement in the offense under Schonert, I think that “calculated and minimizes mistakes” label will quickly disappear. If there is not, then it is also likely he’ll jerk back on the leash.

"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England

by Calvert on Jul 15, 2008 5:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, and FYI – diggin’ the new avatar. I miss that #82.

by Brian Galliford on Jul 14, 2008 3:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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That’s my tribute to optimism as training camp approaches and we’re tied for first place at 0-0…Two quick losses in September and Josh Reed’s productionless mug goes back up there as symbol of this once proud franchise’s shame…That’s my threat to you, One Bills Drive; it’s in your hands now.

Never forget 56-10. Revenge.

by SuperFan82 on Jul 14, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd like to see Favre play....

for the Vikings next year. Wouldn’t it be great to see the Packers retire his jersey on opening day and have him lead the Vikings to a win in the final seconds?

by the Skycap on Jul 14, 2008 3:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Brian, it's like you read my mind

But it sounds better when you say it. One other thing. Some have said Farve would be a good mentor for Edwards. How much could Farve really teach Edwards? It seems to me most of the things that can be learned by watching…how to talk to the media, being a leader in the locker room, studying film, working out hard in the off season….Edwards already seems to be doing those things well. Can what Farve does on the field be taught? You can teach throwing mechanics, footwork, etc, but those things are not what made Farve great. A rocket arm and cast iron jewels did. Does that even remotely sound like Edwards? They are not the same type of QB. People want Farve because they are not sure if Edwards has “IT”. “IT” is what makes Farve Farve. “NOT IT” is what makes JP not Farve. Edwards is not Farve or JP, but he could be Brady. What do you say we find out. Use the money to pay Evans and Peters and light this candle!!!

by Joe P. on Jul 14, 2008 4:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Amen.

Let’s find out what the kid has. That’s why they play the games.

by Defensewinsgames on Jul 14, 2008 5:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bringing in Favre

would be something Tom Donahoe would do. Need I say more?

Let the kid play!

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Jul 15, 2008 9:20 AM EDT   0 recs

Not really...

...Donahoe would probably nod in approval at refusing to give the 2nd year QB some real competition even though the rest of the roster looks ready to contend. Just hitch your wagon to a kid QB and don’t give yourself a backup plan in case he proves not up to the task. Sacrifice entire seasons for the sake of “developing” a QB on the fly with the cameras rolling…This all worked well for Donahoe’s career in 2005 didn’t it? Losman ended up better for it, right?

Never forget 56-10. Revenge.

by SuperFan82 on Jul 15, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn’t say they didn’t have a backup plan in 2005 – they had one. Kelly Holcomb just sucked.

You say J.P. Losman, I say Jim Kelly. Great NFL teams grow up together. Edwards has a chance to grow up with the rest of Buffalo’s young offense. Stay the course. That’s the best route for this franchise right now, and they’re taking it.

by Brian Galliford on Jul 15, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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