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2008 Bills Training Camp: Day Two Breakdown


McKelvin signs, will practice in pads Monday (Photo Source)

After their opening day of practices in which the offense shined and several players were signed, the Buffalo Bills received more good news on Saturday.  Left tackle Jason Peters, who continued his holdout on Saturday, remains the lone off-field distraction for the Bills.

Rookie cornerback Leodis McKelvin won't be missing any more practice time, as the first-round pick inked a 5-year, $19.4 million deal with $12.6 million guaranteed to officially end his short holdout yesterday.  As the Bills have a closed practice session today, the first time Bills fans will get to glimpse McKelvin will be during Monday's practice in pads.

Here's what took place of note on the field during Saturday's two practice sessions (courtesy of BuffaloBills.com):

Running Backs Catching Passes
As promised, new offensive coordinator Turk Schonert is making a concerted effort to get Buffalo's running backs more involved in the passing game this season.  Both Marshawn Lynch and Fred Jackson - and even Dwayne Wright to an extent - made some plays in the passing game, as Trent Edwards had another efficient day throwing in the short and intermediate areas.  We're very interested to see how this practice field development manifests itself during pre-season action.

Play of Note: "Jackson slipped down the sideline and Edwards tried to drop in ball over Paul Posluszny in coverage. Poz had solid coverage 20 yards downfield, but Jackson leaped up and over Posluszny to pull the ball in for what looked to be a reception and a 30-yard gain along the near sideline."

Schouman moving up depth chart?
As was the case during spring practices, second-year tight end Derek Schouman has been taking the bulk of first-team reps at the position - even with veteran Robert Royal fully cleared to practice.  An interesting note from Chris Brown:

In Royal's defense he's still getting his legs up under him after doing no football related work in the spring since he was still rehabbing. But Schouman has looked good in the passing game making plays every practice. And as I said earlier in the offseason when the pads go on he won't disappoint. He likes the physical nature of the game.

Royal is currently second in the tight end rotation, followed by Courtney Anderson, Tim Massaquoi and Derek Fine.  Definitely an interesting situation brewing at this position.

James Impressing at Corner
In Buffalo's defensive backfield, veteran free agent acquisition Will James continues to impress.  He's repeatedly making plays on the ball, tipping passes and making things happen in the turnover department.  He's not alone, however; Terrence McGee, Ashton Youboty and even rookie Reggie Corner have made some similar play themselves.  With McKelvin already two days behind in terms of on-field work, James seems to be a virtual lock for the nickel role - unless, of course, he challenges for a starting role.

Play of Note: "Later on in practice however, James successfully tipped a pass in the air and it was caught by John DiGiorgio for an interception. James began running up the field pumping his fist."

Good Pass Rush, or Bad Protection?
Buffalo's defensive front seven successfully got some heat on the team's quarterbacks during Saturday morning's session.  This is either a good sign for a defense that sorely needs to create pressure, or a bad sign for an offensive line playing without its best player.

Play of Note: "A short time later Kawika Mitchell appeared to come on a delayed blitz and would have taken Edwards down from the blind side had it been live football."

The Bills have a closed, walk-through practice session on Sunday.  They'll put the pads on for the first time in a lone Monday practice session, and Tuesday marks the team's first night practice.

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Royal (and Reed)

If memory serves they each got 4 year-$10 million deals at the same time. Will they be free agents after this season or next? Could Jauron be giving Schouman more reps in order to enable him to win the starting TE position? That would keep the team from having to re-sign Royal. When Hardy takes the #2 spot Reed will certainly become expendable…

by Ron From NM on Jul 27, 2008 10:47 AM EDT   0 recs

Looks like Royal’s contract is 5 years, $10 million, and he’s a free agent after 2010. Oddly enough, he’s making more this year than in 2009 or 2010.

You’re right about Reed; he has a 4 year, $10 million deal and is a free agent after next season (in which he will be making $2.025 million!)

by Krenn on Jul 27, 2008 12:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Royal speculatiuon

I honestly think Royal’s roster spot is deservedly in jeopardy. The coaching staff and front office aren’t blind. His play has been insufficient since signing with the Bills and the lack of production from the TE spot goes hand and hand with the lousy production the team has received from its young QBs in 2006 and 2007. I think the coaching staff will give Schouman every opportunity to win the starting job because they realize that what Royal has done these last two years just isn’t good enough. IF Schouman shows he’s better and IF Derek Fine shows he’s ready to contibute in 2008, I think Royal will be sent packing (finally!). That’s a lot of IFs, but I can’t envision a scenario where Royal finishes his contract. I’d rather see the team gamble with Schouman, Fine, and Anderson in 2008 because Royal is a veteran with no upside and we know he isn’t good enough based on his ample playing time. I’d rather gamble that the young TEs can do a better job…Much like the WR position where I’d rather give the younger players like Parrish, Hardy, Johnson, and Jenkins more playing time at the expense of the known quantity we have in Josh Reed, I think Buffalo needs more production out of Royal’s designated roster spot. I expected TE to be a bigger offseason priority, but maybe the coaching staff saw enough in Schouman to put the position on the back burner. I don’t think OBD is so aloof to believe that what they got out of Royal these last two seasins is good enough for a team that serious about winning.

Never forget 56-10. Revenge.

by SuperFan82 on Jul 27, 2008 12:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The things about Royal

was that he wasn’t brought in as a receiving TE. We knew his abilities revolve around his blocking, not his receiving skills. He’s had a few moments in the passing game, but has remained solid as a blocker. Isn’t that why he’s a Bill?

Now if Schouman, Anderson and Fine all prove they can be capable enough blockers, then I could see Royal on his way out. I’m not convinced that Schouman will be enough of a blocker, yet, to be a full time starter. Anderson has the size and experience to help us as a blocker, so hopefully he works out. Fine, I have no idea until see what he’s made of. He’s supposed to be a decent enough blocker with some receiving skills, so we shall see. I still think we keep 4 TE’s because there may be a need to have a fill-in at FB in case of injury, but if only 3 are kept, I can see Royal fighting for his spot if the other 3 step up in the next month.

~K

by Kurupt on Jul 27, 2008 1:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Royal the blocker

Is Robert Royal a quality blocker? I realize that was the scouting report on him when he was signed, but he hasn’t stood out to me in this regard (at least not enough to ignore his limitations as a receiver). I’m not totally disagreeing, Kurupt, I’m just interested in hearing some opinions because I remain unconvinced. Marshwan Lynch and Willis McGahee are pretty good running backs and their rushing averages were 4.0 and 3.8 ypc in 2006 and 2007 respectively. Obviously there are many other factors than the TE that go into those mediocre averages, but I don’t see Royal as contributing particularly well as a run blocker these past two seasons…Also, I hope that Schonert’s ideas about the TE are different than what Fairchild envisioned. I’m not a fan of the west coast offense as a philosophy, but one of its advantages is that the RBs and TEs can become significant factors in the passing game. I don’t know what we have in Schouman and Fine, but I’ll be following them closely this preseason because I don’t think what we’ve seen from Royal is acceptable and his age makes it unlikely that improvement is possible.

Never forget 56-10. Revenge.

by SuperFan82 on Jul 27, 2008 1:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Royal maybe… Reed, absolutely not.

by Brian Galliford on Jul 27, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Reed's a Solid Player

I predict that Josh Reed will be around for a long time. He’s a very solid player. I know he’s not great. He’s not even a legit number 2, but the more great players we add the harder Josh will be to cover and his toughness will be very much appreciated. I like him.

by MrFurious1 on Jul 27, 2008 12:15 PM EDT   0 recs

I don't follow your logic

You agreee with many Rumblers that Reed isn’t a great player or even a #2 WR. He’s a possession type receiver without the size. I think he’s just a place-holder until the team develops (or adds) a better WR. If Steve Johnson comes on in camp Reed could drop all the way to #5 in the WR rotation before the end of the season.

by Ron From NM on Jul 27, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow… I don’t agree with that at all, Ron. Do you remember the player that Marv Levy likened Reed to when he signed him before the ‘06 season? Ricky Proehl. This coaching staff LOVES Reed. I think any belief that he’s a placeholder comes straight from the fan base – I fully expect him to stick with this team for the foreseeable future, even after his contract runs out after next season.

by Brian Galliford on Jul 27, 2008 4:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We can only hope you're wrong...

The team is seemingly willing to stick with another underwhelming starter, Fowler, Unlike center, however, the team did upgrade the WR position through the draft. Hardy will see significant playing time this season which will drop Reed to-at best-#3. While opinions vary I’d prefer to see Parrish at #3 over Reed….which would drop Reed to #4. Can you really see the team being sticking with a #4 (at best) WR for very long?

I do get your point about the Bills’ unfortunate tendency to stick with underperforming players. Jauron has shown a willingness to value potential over a (disappointing) known quantity. Preston lost his job to Butler and Anthony Thomas lost his job to Jackson. If Johnson flashes enough potential I can see him displacing Reed. At that point it would be more accurate to say that the coaching staff loved Reed—and the potential he never fulfilled.

by Ron From NM on Jul 27, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

2006 failures

I love Marv, but he struck out big time with his free agency class of 2006. Larry Tripplett, Craig Nall, Peerless Price, Matt Bowen, Anthony Thomas, Tutan Reyes, Josh Reed, Robert Royal, Ryan Denney and Melvin Fowler were all give multiple year contracts for an amazing 0 for 10 for the Bills. None of these players are good enough for the role the team envisioned when they were signed. Tripplett is a 3rd down tackle, not a starter. Nall has trouble sticking on NFL rosters so it was wishful thinking to consider him a true option in a competition to start at QB. Price had been cut twice the previous year, yet Levy gives him 4 years and a starting job. Anthony Thomas was washed up as his stats had obviously indicated, yet he was handed the backup RB job at the expense of the talented Fred Jackson. Bowen and Reyes were brought in to compete as starters and neither held their job very long (I don’t think Bowen ever got into a game)..thankfully, they’re all gone. That leaves Reed, Royal, Fowler, and Denney. Denney’s a decent rotational guy, but I think most Bills fan would like to see something better (Chris Ellis, I’m talking to you). Royal is a backup TE at best, not an NFL starter. Reed is a marginal 5th receiver type whose been on the field far too much over his 6 year career for someone who doesn’t do anything particularly well. Fowler would make a heady backup center if you wanted a veteran to fill that position, but he’s too weak to start 16 games.

Levy and company appear to have done a very good job with 2006’s draft, but the poor decisions with veterans that offseason are a pretty big clue in solving the mystery of why the Bills continued their 14-18 two year trend that has plagued them in ‘02-’03 under Williams, ‘04-’05 under Mularkey, and again in ‘06-’07 under Jauron. Mediocre players playing in important roles make for 7-9 seasons. Hopefully, as Levy’s very intriguing class of ‘06 enters its prime, it will make Levy’s vision a thunderous success despite the weak stopgaps he settled for in free agency. My guess is that the team recognizes the shortcomings of its roster and is banking on Ellis, Johnson, and Fine to be more talented players than Denney, Reed, and Royal just as Donte Whitner, John McCargo, Brad Butler, Fred Jackson, and Trent Edwards proved to be better options than Bowen, Tripplett, Reyes, Thomas, and Nall. The vets had their chance and proved to be mediocre; the kids need to be better or this team won’t make any headway. I think they’ll prove up to the task. Now, about Melvin Fowler…

Never forget 56-10. Revenge.

by SuperFan82 on Jul 27, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i agree with Brian

Reed is a Ricky Proehl type. I, like Ron, also want Roscoe to land the #3 spot but I have no problem having Reed around as a career Bill at the number 4 receiver spot. Whats wrong with keeping a guy as part of the team who isn’t a star so long as he stays off the starting line up?

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Jul 27, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree here

2 mil a year is really chump change, and while I have crowed from early in Reed’s career he should be a goner, the qbs love to throw to him and he has caught alot of key passes.

Hardy will not only take pressure off of Evans, he will take pressure off of Reed.

I personally think Reed and Roscoe will hold “equal” positions at wr; they will switch off in the slot during 3 wide depending on the play or situation; and if Reed excels, Parrish will always be here as one of the best PR in the league.

Top 4 WRs

Evans, Hardy, Reed, Parrish,

Then one or two positions left.

The rookie still may be better than Reed, but if not, or if his inexperience still has Reed trumping him, then he will be the number 5 wr.

All in all, Reed will probably be a Bill for awhile so he’d better get a couple tds to make us happy.

Protect ya neck!

by killascript on Jul 27, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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