2008 Bills Training Camp: Day Five Breakdown
The Buffalo Bills held their first night practice of 2008 training camp last night at St. John Fisher College, and I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to attend the festivities. With pen and pad in hand, I spent the majority of my night frantically taking as many notes as possible. It was a beautiful night, but unfortunately, I was not overly impressed by what I saw from our team. Here are some observations, from units to players to coaches, that I hope you'll find useful (this could get long):
Edwards Struggles
For all the good that we've heard from Trent Edwards this early in camp, I saw a guy who struggled a lot last night. He did mention post-practice that what the team was running last night was a whole bunch of new plays, which may have been the reason he looked so poor. But he was missing receivers high, he was bouncing throws off the turf, and he was very obviously distraught at last night's misgivings. He didn't show emotion like J.P. Losman used to, but you could definitely tell he was frustrated. He did, however, make some very nice throws, including a couple nice deep balls.
Losman did not practice; his right thumb was taped up heavily. He's also grown a very lovely beard this off-season. Maybe he thinks Edwards' rookie beard is what caused him to lose his job?
Lynch (and Jackson) Looking Impressive
I absolutely loved what I saw out of Marshawn Lynch last night. He looks more powerful and more agile than he was as a rookie. Put aside anything you hear about Lynch's breakaway speed - I'm going to chalk that up to Lynch being beaten down by the rigors of his first NFL season. The guy looked like a superstar in the making. He also dove into the end zone for a touchdown (probably unnecessarily), drawing a big cheer from the gigantic crowd.
Interestingly, Turk Schonert had Lynch split out wide in a couple of formations. He looked good catching the ball, but his understudy, Fred Jackson, looked better.
Jackson won't ever be a guy who can carry a full rushing load, but he's got that Kenneth Davis feel about him - he's above average at everything he does, especially catching the football. He looked smooth and confident last night, and his style is different from that of Lynch. They're going to complement each other very well.
Receiver/Tight End Notes
I came away with the impression on James Hardy that I thought I was going to come away with: this kid is going to struggle in a big way between the twenties this year. He's still not a great route-runner, and looks positively sloth-like getting out of some of his breaks, especially on out routes. But the dude is just straight up huge. He'll make plays simply because he's big. But from the looks of things right now, Josh Reed (who looked good as usual) seems like he's got a lock on the starting spot. My guess is that Reed will play between the twenties, with Hardy being a mainstay on the field in the red zone.
Out of all of Buffalo's receivers, I came away most impressed by undrafted rookie free agent Jason Jones. He comes from a very small school (Arkansas Pine-Bluff), but he was making some of Buffalo's corners look silly in one-on-one drills. He's a smooth route-runner and shows great hands; he even blew past Will James on a beautifully executed deep route at one point. I'm very interested to see how he performs in pre-season games.
At tight end, Derek Schouman and Robert Royal are light-years ahead of the competition. They're easily the two most fluid athletes at the position. Yes, Robert Royal makes Derek Fine and Courtney Anderson look unathletic. I liked the way that Schouman and Royal played when they were together on the field. Together, they might be productive enough to make us not hate the fact that they didn't draft a more athletic tight end this past April.
O-Line... well, they just need Jason Peters
Kirk Chambers better not be Buffalo's starting left tackle come opening day; I don't think I saw him successfully block Aaron Schobel in one-on-one drills once. He's a tough blocker in the running game, but his pass protection is, well, poor. Here's hoping that Jason Peters is back in camp before long...
The line struggled a bit in pass protection. In 7-on-7 and 11-on-11, Edwards had the pocket collapse on him a couple times; he was forced to throw the ball away once or twice, and made some bad throws while pressured as well. There were some holes for the team's running backs, though.
Offensive line coach Sean Kugler was working hard with rookie Demetrius Bell on his stance and pass pro technique. Langston Walker was chipping in with some advice as well. Bell looks ultra-athletic, but he was the greenest guy on the field by a long shot. He's certainly a practice squad player at this point, but he's got big upside if the coaches can harness some of that athleticism.
D-Line Looks Fantastic
Buffalo's revamped defensive line looked outstanding, including the much-maligned (here, at least) starting defensive ends. The unit was fast, powerful and disruptive - and that included the second unit line as well.
Marcus Stroud can't be blocked by one guy. He just can't. He's not a big guy, but his center of gravity is low, and he got a significant push every single play. He pancaked Brad Butler in a one-on-one drill, and in some double team drills, he was able to slip blocks and get a push in most instances.
I loved the fact that John McCargo was following Stroud around like some sort of gigantic puppy. Stroud was working with McCargo for a few minutes on block-shedding moves; it's good to see a vet helping out a talented youngster. Those two looked great working together inside when they got to play together. (For the record, Edwards and Evans were seen throwing off to the side as well. They looked rather chummy.)
Copeland Bryan ran with the twos, pushing Chris Ellis to third team end, but I don't expect that to last long. Ellis is green - he lacks lower body strength, so he certainly won't be playing on early downs - but Bryan was pedestrian. Ellis should pass him on the depth chart by the end of camp.
Crowell Sits; Young LBs Looking Good
Angelo Crowell missed the practice; he had a wrap on his left knee and came out in shorts. He watched the entire practice from the sidelines. Keith Ellison replaced him on the strong side; Marcus Buggs took Ellison's spot with the second unit.
Speaking of Buggs, he has a very realistic shot at making this team. He made one or two very nice hits in punt coverage drills, and while he's small, he looks like a very good athlete. He's another young guy to keep your eyes on during pre-season action.
Paul Posluszny looked good. He looks like he's in the best shape of his life, and, to be frank, like he could snap most of the Bills' receivers in half with a good lick. He and Lynch are easily the team's most popular players.
Defensive Back Notes: Simpson Dinged
Ko Simpson left practice early with an apparent injury to his surgically repaired ankle. He was walking on it fine on the sidelines, but he clearly was uncomfortable. We'll see if he practices today. To no one's surprise, George Wilson took his place with the top unit; he looks far more comfortable back there than he did last season. He was making a few hits as well.
It was only his second practice, but Leodis McKelvin continued to struggle. He looked better than what we heard in one-on-one coverage drills, but you can tell his ball skills are lacking. He'll blanket a receiver, but he's not instinctual in knowing when to turn his head. He's very good at making plays coming forward, however. He also looked great returning punts (even earning the very loud praise of Bobby April on one return), and in positional drills, you can tell just how good an athlete the kid is. He's very technical in his agility (read: amazing footwork), and when that can translate better to covering receivers, he should be outstanding.
Will James struggled. A lot. He repeatedly got burned deep covering receivers in single coverage. He's still probably a lock to be the team's nickel corner on opening weekend. Terrence McGee and Jabari Greer seem entrenched as the starters, and that shouldn't change any time soon. Reggie Corner was actually playing ahead of McKelvin in dime packages; McKelvin played outside with the second unit. I expect McKelvin to take James' nickel spot early in the season, and Corner is a bigger factor in this equation than many people tend to believe.
Ashton Youboty is very clearly the team's sixth corner - and I thought he looked very good. He blatantly held Jason Jones in single coverage during one drill, but also made a nice break to intercept a pass in front of Felton Huggins. He's much more physical than some of Buffalo's young guys, as well. I hope he stays on the team - he's still got a world of talent.
General Observations
I love watching Perry Fewell and Bobby April coach. They're loud, funny, and they get their guys moving hard. Their units were easily the two strongest on the field last night.
The offense struggled mightily last night, but you can tell that Turk Schonert's offensive system will be better than Steve Fairchild's. The tempo is faster, Edwards looks much more comfortable, and more guys are getting involved in the passing game (most notably Roscoe Parrish).
Overall, I wasn't a huge fan of the night practice experience. Perhaps it was the idea that I had to go to work the next morning. But it was good seeing the guys in Bills colors, and it was even better to hear the crowd chanting and reacting to what was going on on the field. It was a good time.
The Bills practice from 1:00 to 3:05 today. Buffalo Rumblings will recap the day's action later this afternoon.
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Wow. What a great report.
Brian, I thoroughly enjoyed reading this report. I actually feel like I got much more from your report than what I just absorbed on BB.com, and the website has the advantage of video highlights. (This is not a slam of Chris Brown, but you are clearly a Bills geek). If you are not heading for a sports reporting career, consider it.
I went to a night practice last year and I know how tough it is just to figure out who’s on the field in camp, for Pete’s sake. There’s 80 freakin’ guys out there, about a third of them are draft picks, undrafted free agents, and free agents picked up since last season, with new numbers, and some of them wearing newly assigned numbers. Getting as much detail as you did and analyzing so many individual players is a wonder.
There are concerns: Edwards performance in particular, especially as we’ve seen him struggle like this in games. Of course Peters absence is a huge hole, and the fact that the Bills really have no one behind him. Hardy and McKelvin’s inexperience, meaning they won’t be answers for awhile. And I’m not sure how I feel about George Wilson picking up where he left off last year. I’d feel a lot better if Simpson truly was recovered and could play.
But so much that looks hopeful. A better, more powerful and disruptive defensive line. Greer looking like he’s hungry for the starting corner position. The interaction between young guys and vets, and the pace and rhythm of Schonert’s offense (I think this is underreported and significant).
All in all a great read that fired me up for the season even more than I have been. Hope you can provide us more.
by Defensewinsgames on Jul 30, 2008 8:46 AM EDT 0 recs
Glad you enjoyed it, DWG. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to make it to any more practices this summer, but I know we’re going to have another excellent report coming in from Geronimo, probably early next week.
by Brian Galliford on
Jul 30, 2008 12:42 PM EDT
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Nice work to Brian and Killascript.
Two nice posts, and much appreciated for those of us who couldn’t make it out to camp.
A few quick questions for both of your eyes…
Was/is Preston playing center for Fowler? I thought Fowler had a dinged up shoulder.
I read McCargo was fined for showing up fat in the spring camp. From what you both saw, is Kyle Williams the guy for sure?
Brian – I’m confused by this statement regarding Stroud:
“He’s not a big guy, but his center of gravity is low, and he got a significant push every single play. “ I thought he’s six five, three hundred. How is that not big?
How did George Wilson look filling in for Ko?
Brian – you mentioned April and Fewell were both animated. I like both of them too. Any words on what Schonert looks like when he’s coaching? Was he a “presence” out there as well?
by krytime on Jul 30, 2008 9:07 AM EDT 0 recs
I saw Fowler out there.
McCargo did look fat sort of while Williams looks bullish, and that is just physically. From my own perspective, I did not see much of McCargo actually working, and for anyone who has been at camp it is hard to watch two drills at the same time. However, KW just seemed the better athlete, or at least, I should say that looked good out there next to Stroud. He is a good athlete and like I said seemed to have added more muscle in the offseason, where McCargo looked a little dumpier.
As for Stroud, from hat Brian said, i would agree; he is very lean and in shape. He is tall and that allows him to carry his weight very well. I think he will be a penetrating force with his athleticism.
Wilson seemed okay, but I admit I did not get a good look at the safeties
Protect ya neck!
by killascript on
Jul 30, 2008 9:15 AM EDT
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Was/is Preston playing center for Fowler? I thought Fowler had a dinged up shoulder.
Just like we’ve seen in other reports, they split reps a bit. Fowler started and took most of the reps.
I read McCargo was fined for showing up fat in the spring camp. From what you both saw, is Kyle Williams the guy for sure?
McCargo looked like he was in great shape, and played like it. Kyle Williams will start, though – he plays well next to Stroud.
I thought he’s six five, three hundred. How is that not big?
As we’re used to seeing the Ted Washington and Pat Williams guys, Stroud is a much different "big" tackle. Clearly, he’s a large man, but as killascript said above, he carries his weight EXTREMELY well. He looks like a defensive end, but weighs 310.
How did George Wilson look filling in for Ko?
I had to leave a few plays early, but from what I saw, Wilson was Wilson – steady, but not involved heavily.
Any words on what Schonert looks like when he’s coaching? Was he a “presence” out there as well?
He’s not animated, but I watched him for a short period during 7-on-7 – he gets after guys a little bit. As I said in the report, I liked the tempo of his offense. Time will tell with him.
by Brian Galliford on
Jul 30, 2008 12:47 PM EDT
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If I can add...
To Brian and KS, about Stroud… I’ve been a UGA fan since moving to GA in 92.. Second only to my being a Bills fan BTW…. Using the term “huge” in regard to Stroud, has to be taken in context… Yes, he’s actually very tall for a dt, But his weight has always been proportional to his height… Muscular and athletic, instead of your usual dt… Say Grady Jackson for an extreme…LOL…..
As I’ve mentioned before, When our Bills traded for him, I got a hold of an old friend who knows him well… He assured me folks… We’ve got the real Marcus Stroud back…. Healthy, and anxious to prove he’s still got it…..
by Cinga on
Jul 30, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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Should read (edit)
To add to Brian and KS, about Stroud….
by Cinga on
Jul 30, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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I just hope he stays healthy
I don’t like our DT rotation without him….I have a feeling he returns to the Pro Bowl if our D improves, he stays healthy and makes a significant impact….Basically, if he stays healthy, I think he’ll be flying out to Hawaii in Feb….
~K
by Kurupt on
Jul 30, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Night experience
I agree that it was only okay. The thng about it was, I was expecting something different from what you see during the day, and while being in the stands of the field gives you a better view; I would have liked to see more of a scrimmage type practice. However, it is early in camp so I wouldn’t expect much more than that.
The fact is these NFL players circa 2008 are in super human strength for the most part and don’t need to be pushed too hard as if they were drinking beers and adding 20lbs every off season
Protect ya neck!
by killascript on Jul 30, 2008 9:08 AM EDT 0 recs
Great recap
Hopefully it was an off-day for Edwards. We won’t be successful if he plays like that this year. We need a smart, efficient QB that gets the ball to his receivers to make plays.
I’m not surprised by Hardy’s struggles. I was concerned about his speed after watching a bunch of his Indiana highlights before the draft, but let it slide because of his size and ability to use it. I still think he’s going to struggle off the line, especially if a CB can jam him under the pads. I hope he starts learning and getting off the line better. We need him have an impact early and often.
Schouman’s growing on me, though his height/weight is still mysterious and potentially concerning. I still don’t understand the Derek Fine pick. I thought he was supposed to be somewhat athletic, but it’s sounding more and more like a ST only. If we keep 4 TE’s, then that’s fine, but if he’s the 3rd TE, we’re going to need him on offense at times. Looking back, Kellen Davis was easily the more athletic prospect with a bunch more potential, but hopefully Fine can develop into at least at solid possession receiving TE/blocker on O.
I was wondering if any the no-name WR’s were stepping up. Jones sounded like a prospect when we first signed him and he’d be a great PS candidate assuming we keep Steve Johnson on the active roster. I love his potential, and Jones sounds pretty solid too.
The OL is so concerning right now. Without Peters, it stinks IMO. He holds it together and really fortifies the entire left side. With a scrub like Chambers out there, Dockery’s job is harder, and teams will bring more pressure on that side. In turn, Trent feels that effect and our running game will have struggles too. We need Peters in camp, at least by the last preseason game or two. Chambers is a guy who’s going to allow our QB to get killed. There’s a reason he was a street FA last year. I hope we can develop Bell into a solid player by the start of next season….
Good to hear regarding Stroud and co. I think that’s the only time I’ll ever see him referred to as “not a big guy”, though I know you mean not the typical rotund DT. Hope he can stay healthy all year, because he’ll be returning to the Pro Bowl if he does, IMO. I’m glad McCargo is working hard with Stroud, there have been rumblings of his below average work ethic/desire. Also, is it possible that the DT’s looked extra good because they were going against Fowler/Preston? Seeing that Fowler was pancaked is hardly a surprise. Ugh
Buggs sounds intriguing, but man is he small. 5’10”, 225 or so, right? I really hate having tiny LB’s out there on D, so if he can be an impactful STer, that won’t be terrible. He sounds like another PS candidate though.
I wish we could instill Corner’s ball skills in McKelvin. He sounds like he’s going to be so frustrating to watch. As in, he’ll be all over the receiver, be right there to pick off a pass, but then let it bounce off his head or something. It’s weird that Mckelvin’s ball skills are so bad when he’s so good at returning punts.
I’m glad you are high on Youboty again. He’s a guy I really like, with good size, athleticism and skill, and I’m still quite confused at how many have given up on the young kid.
The offense better be better. It can’t be worse. And if it doesn’t improve, we aren’t coming close to winning even 8 games.
Why was the night practice setting so poor?
~K
by Kurupt on Jul 30, 2008 9:46 AM EDT 0 recs
re: Fowler. Looked back through my notes. Stroud didn’t pancake Fowler, it was actually Brad Butler. Sorry for the confusion.
Will answer any and all questions later on, probably over the noon hour.
by Brian Galliford on
Jul 30, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
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Why was the night practice setting so poor?
Not so much “poor” as “run of the mill”. I expected something different than what we got, just as killascript mentioned.
by Brian Galliford on
Jul 30, 2008 12:48 PM EDT
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Great job Brian and Killascript
With JP nicked up, how did Handyman look?
by Joe P. on Jul 30, 2008 9:55 AM EDT 0 recs
Hamdan actually looked pretty good. He’s calm and has a nice presence, and his arm is pretty good. He, too, had some accuracy issues last night, but he was leaps and bounds ahead of Matt Baker, who looked awful during drills.
by Brian Galliford on
Jul 30, 2008 12:49 PM EDT
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Chris Brown must read this site
Hamdan highlights on the latest Bills roundup. LOL
by Joe P. on
Jul 30, 2008 11:13 PM EDT
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I guess
Stroud would look a little smallish if you’re comparing him to guys like Ted Washington and Pat Williams. I remember seeing Washington standing next to Bruce Smith and being amazed at how wide Washington was – I mean, he was about twice as wide as Bruce!
McKelvin reminds me a bit of Antoine Winfield at this point in his career. Great in coverage but not much for picking off passes. Good in run support.
Kirk Chambers is no Jason Peters, but he’s really up against it playing one-on-one against Schobel. We tend to not give Schobel enough credit for what he brings to the field.
Hope the Bills FO finds a way to keep Jackson for a while. I like the analogy to Kenneth Davis – one of those unsung guys who produce when you give them the opportunity.
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on Jul 30, 2008 10:10 AM EDT 0 recs
Marcus Buggs
I wonder if there’s any chance Buggs could move to safety? He’s a reasonable size for one, and played at FS his first year in college. Though it would probably be more difficult to make the team if he has to learn a new position…
by Krenn on Jul 30, 2008 10:11 AM EDT 0 recs
Kind of like Coy Wire?
Don’t know if that will happen here with so many safeties currently on the roster.
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on
Jul 30, 2008 10:13 AM EDT
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Not to mention one of the best names on the roster.
I mean, imagine the announcers if Buggs was able to bug Moss on his routes. A field day for wordsmiths, too.
by Defensewinsgames on
Jul 30, 2008 10:35 AM EDT
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Buggs isn’t quick enough to play safety, from what I saw last night. He’s a straight line guy. I think he’s a good fit on the weak side, though he was playing strong side with the second unit last night.
by Brian Galliford on
Jul 30, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
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McKelvin's Ball Skills
Very nice work, Brian.
It sounds like McKelvin’s lacking ball skills are more due to not instinctively locating the ball in flight rather than his ability to purely catch the ball?
If ball skills are instinctual, does that mean it will improve with more experience? If McKelvin can significantly improve in this area, the Bills could have the total package at a premium position. As we all know, leading up to the draft it was reported that McKelvin’s only weakness was his ball skills. I’ve been waiting to see him in a real competitive setting to verify those reports.
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
by Fort Worth on Jul 30, 2008 10:27 AM EDT 0 recs
My guess is yes. George Catavolos was critiquing McKelvin’s technique nearly every time he ran through a drill, especially in 1-1 coverage with receivers. They’ll get the kid straightened out.
by Brian Galliford on
Jul 30, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
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Hardy
Can you expand on why you think Hardy wont be able to be effective inside the 20’s from what you saw. Sloth like it harsh and makes me think he is usless expect inside the red zone. He did have a lot of catches not just TD’s in college. Also, should we expect when the Bills line up w. 2 WR’s and they are not in the red zone it will be Reed and Evans?
This news of Hardy not being smooth is the most concerning thing I read. Also, thanks for the great read all of us who dont live inarea or cant make it certainly appreciate it.
by Berg79 on Jul 30, 2008 11:06 AM EDT 0 recs
“Useless” is harsher than “sloth-like”. :)
Hardy looks great on slant patterns because he can just shield the defender off with his big frame. He should make some plays in traffic that way. But he’s not going to be a guy who can get open all over the field right away until he improves his route-running.
by Brian Galliford on
Jul 30, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
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I hope he plays Colston-like
Marques Colston is pretty slow too and looks like he’s barely moving sometimes, but he moves his body into position so well and shields defenders. If Hardy plays that way, he’ll be very good…
~K
by Kurupt on
Jul 30, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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That's precisely where I think Hardy is going to shine early on.
There’s only a few top notch CBs who are good enough and big enough to cause him problems on slants. He made everyone of our CBs look foolish in those situations during the day practices that I made. I think he literally picked up McGee at one point.
by twoeightnine on
Jul 30, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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Great Report
Loved the report. The Peters hold out really concerns me—especially since I had already been concerned about the weak back ups at OT anyway. Perhaps instead of thinking about Youboty for a TE trade (all we would get is another Schouman/Anderson clone), maybe we should think about a Youboty for an OT trade. I think, with or without Peters in the long run, if he is out for another couple of weeks, the Bills should try to find a veteran OT in the free agency or trade.
by labill on Jul 30, 2008 11:42 AM EDT 0 recs
That’s not a bad idea. Anyone care to speculate about which linemen the team could pick up?
by Brian Galliford on
Jul 30, 2008 12:52 PM EDT
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Off the top of my head...
Charles Spencer
Levi Jones
Willie Anderson
Just for kicks:
Jonas Jennings
Mike Williams
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
by Fort Worth on
Jul 30, 2008 1:06 PM EDT
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Charles Spencer just got picked up (Carolina maybe?), but was released from the Texans because of a failed physical. He wouldn’t help us right now.
Why Jones and Anderson? Aren’t they pretty set where they are in Cincy?
~K
by Kurupt on
Jul 30, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
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Jones and Anderson
Levis Jones requested a trade this offseason and Willie Anderson is backing up Stacey Andrews.
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
by Fort Worth on
Jul 30, 2008 2:11 PM EDT
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Levi
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
by Fort Worth on
Jul 30, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
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great update
Brian,
Very well done. I was there as well all night and agree with almost every comment you had. Mostly…
-Crowd was really into the play and atmosphere was very upbeat.
-Lynch looks fast and explosive but notice he was the only player to be late out of the tunnel. I know it was onlt 2 minutes…..but for God sake….show up on time. RB coah (Eric) was near us and seemed annoyed.
-Hardy looked very lackluster. He is huge and has a 42” vertical but he does not seem to have the explosion off the line and in cuts. I think this will hurt him on most of the normal routes. That being said….with that size, I can’t wait to see his first fade in to the corner he has against Seattle.
-Donte Whitner just looks like he really want to hurt someone. He plays every down like he has a huge chip on his shoulder and he was yapping with Parrish a bunch last night. At one point i heard him yell to Roscoe…”shut up and get back in the huddle”. I had to luagh and realize this guy is ready to be unleashed on the rest of the league.
-Jason Jones looks like he can really play the game. Love his routes and speed. Just seems to catch every ball that is close to him.
-Perry Fewll is a blast to watch coach
Upps
by upps on Jul 30, 2008 1:06 PM EDT 0 recs
some more on Jones
I keep hearing a lot from you fellas that were making observations about Jason Jones. Think you could expand a bit on his play? Who was covering him when he was making these plays? What kind of potential do you see in the kid? Any input from any who were there would be appreciated. Also, can we expect Hardy to start week 1?
McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year
by poz on
Jul 30, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
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CHECK OUT NFL.Com
the cover article is titled “Bill-ieve in now” and talking about how the Bills are a young and confident team ready to roll baby!
McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year
by poz on
Jul 30, 2008 5:57 PM EDT
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I love that.
What’s the official slogan of the NFL this year? Believe in now.
by twoeightnine on
Jul 30, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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Pictures
Does anyone know where I can view pictures of this practice?
They were not on the Bills’ website the last time I checked.
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
by Fort Worth on Jul 30, 2008 1:10 PM EDT 0 recs
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Good work as always Brian. Over the years I have learned not to read too much into what happens in this scrimmages. However, there are some nuggets that can be taken. What concerns me the most is getting out of camp with no injuries to our O and D lines. Any injuries would be devastating. I think Peters will come back eventually. It has to be killing him to be away from his teammates. At some point the player needs to take control and tell his agent how it is going to be
MARVelous
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