Bills hang on, beat Steelers in Toronto Debut
The Buffalo Bills' offense entered their second pre-season game with a chip on their collective shoulder. Less than a week after an inauspicious start in Washington, Buffalo's offense did a complete 180 in a 24-21 pre-season victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers in Toronto.
Trent Edwards - last week just 1 of 5 passing - was two for two this week. Two for two on scoring drives, that is; Buffalo's starting offense was on the field for two possessions, and ended both with Robert Royal touchdown receptions. Edwards finished the evening 9 of 11 passing for 104 yards, 2 touchdowns and no interceptions. He even had a 22-yard scramble for a first down on third and 12 on the team's second possession.
Wide receiver Lee Evans got into the act as well; after getting blanked in Washington, Evans caught three passes for 55 yards on two possessions this week. Royal - heavily involved offensively due to a knee injury sustained by Derek Schouman - caught two balls both for scores; Roscoe Parrish, Marshawn Lynch and Fred Jackson were also involved in the passing game.
Buffalo's re-tooled offensive line blocked well for Lynch; Marshawn carried 5 times for 25 yards before his exit. There were two minor errors that the offense made - Edwards was hit on his blind side on one play, and Langston Walker had a poor block on a speed rush - but otherwise, the Bills' offense was hitting on all cylinders. It was truly an impressive performance.
Defense/Special Teams Not Slouches, Either
Buffalo's defense wasn't as spectacular as the offense on Thursday night, but they had their bright spots as well. Take away a fluke 47-yard touchdown scramble by Steelers QB Dennis Dixon late in the fourth quarter, and the Bills held the Steelers to just 54 rushing yards on 20 carries. Strong safety Donte Whitner, making his pre-season debut, looked good in run support and also recorded an interception off a tipped pass by Ko Simpson.
Not everything was rosy defensively, however. The Bills missed a few golden opportunities to record sacks on Ben Roethlisberger, instead allowing the elusive signal-caller to escape and even make a few big plays down the field. Buffalo's linebackers also continued to struggle in coverage, and the cornerbacks - specifically Ashton Youboty and Leodis McKelvin - were not as solid as they were in Washington. The effectiveness of Buffalo's offense and some big plays, however, masked these deficiencies as the Bills' first unit built a 14-0 lead over the Steelers' first unit.
McKelvin proved that he can be explosive in the return game once again; his 95-yard kickoff return late in the third quarter gave the Bills a 24-14 lead and effectively put the game away. Buffalo's special teams units, from team one to team four, were outstanding once again.
What's Coming Next?
- We'll have our Film Session again this week, as I was able to get this game on the ol' DVR once again. Expect me to come back with a glowing report on rookie OT Demetrius Bell - I thought he excelled in extended action, specifically against the pass rush and blocking in space.
- The Bills have ten days off before their next pre-season game, a Sunday Night affair in Indianapolis.
- Here's the roll call from tonight's game thread: sireric, Kurupt, Bluebill, Scoe221, twoeightnine, Cinga, MonStarr_716, krytime, Fucilli5, RabidBuffalo, the Skycap, Berg79, jj24, Krenn, BuffaloBrewed, Kumario!, billsstein (17 users)... Congratulations to Kurupt, who blew away the competition with 112 comments. Great stuff.
Plenty to be excited about after this game, Rumblers.
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i wish
i could have seen this game but I can’t wait to catch the highlights. I wanted to see Trent be efficient and have some moxy and leadership and it sounds like that is what happened. I think this is a great confidence booster and the best part is , is that no one got significantly injured from what I have read.
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Aug 14, 2008 11:22 PM EDT 0 recs
muffed punt return
Brian…I’m surprised you didn’t mention the careless play by special teams on Pittsburgh’s punt that glanced off of Dustin Fox. The defense did a great job shutting down Pittsburgh on the previous series to force the punt…only to loose it on poor communication. Tasker said McKelvin and everyone near that ball should have shouted “poison” loud and clear. I’m sure they’ll get communication problem solved pronto.
by southerntierfan on Aug 14, 2008 11:36 PM EDT 0 recs
It was discussed pretty thoroughly in the open thread, and it’s something I’ll definitely review in the Film Session. It’s hard to place all of the blame for that play on one single player, though McKelvin comes close. He made up for it pretty quickly. That was the one gaffe on special teams, and McKelvin erased it.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 15, 2008 12:48 AM EDT
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Quick Thoughts
Offense certainly looked better, no need to really elaborate there, but the miss on the block by Langston shows that he is a bit slow at the point of attack against a speed rusher. All the more reason we need Peters, which is of course obvious.
Edwards looked smooth and crisp and accurate.
Lynch looked good as did the run blocking.
Good to see Evans making good catches and running good routes, as well I think Hardy, who did not make a catch is still grasping the mental part of the game as he was scolded by Evans on one occasion. I also think he was running with the first team almost exclusively, maybe some with JP under center and the 2nd team, but may have helped Evans or Royal get open more…not sure.
Defense looked okay….Youboty got burned big time for that TD and one other time as well. Also felt George Wilson could have made a play on the TD, but oh well. Nice to see Whitner get the INT, he is a class football player, and also looked stronger stuffing the run than he did last season. Also, I thought Stroud looked quick coming down the line. What is most interseting about 99 is that he still fits the mold for the type of D-lineman that Jauron and Co said they wanted in Buffalo; quick penetrators with speed to run down runners on the line. He mayt be huge, but he is tall and lean and can get after it. Another thing about Roethlisberger having “too much” time or at least a chance to scramble is that I don’t think it is good sportsmanship to pummel the other teams star quarterback in preseason, just doesn’t seem right. Just like how the Steeler’s DE almost pile-drived Edwards during his sack, which would have probably started a rumble.
Chris Ellis looked very good both against the run and pass. On the play where he sacked Leftwich, he had an excellent spin move and showed good closing speed. He plays his gap well against the run.
And I am going to stop, but how about that return…McKelvin is quite fast, no doubt about it. He is quickly making a case for him to be returning kicks this year, as discussed in a thread about a month ago or so. I love McGee, but the threat of either one taking it to the house is great, and if you throw in Parrish, that is a triple threat possibly unmatched in this league
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on Aug 14, 2008 11:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Liked what I saw, too, but take another look at Ellis
He looked good, but if I had recorded the game, I’d take another look. He had at least two upfield rushes, in other words, basically a pass rush move, when the play was a run. On at least those two plays, the ball carrier (I think one was Dixon on the TD) went right through the gap between Ellis and the tackle. I’m not saying the kid doesn’t have talent, he can help us, but those are mistakes that can bite you.
by Defensewinsgames on
Aug 15, 2008 6:39 AM EDT
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not a in depth
Sort of stop watching into the 2nd half, 4th qtr really, and missed the Dixon TD, but I think he has promise and good size. I think those are mistakes that he can fix, as it seems the team made good adjustments between preseason games 1&2
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on
Aug 15, 2008 8:09 AM EDT
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It would have been nice to see Hardy get some reps with the second team to help him get a better grasp on the offense. Also.. the second team offensive line was very poor in pass blocking. Ol’ J.P. didn’t have much time to get rid of the ball.
Craig.
by taskersd on
Aug 15, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
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Concurred, though if I’m remembering correctly, JP’s pressure was coming from the right side. I’ll have to re-watch the film on them, but I think the issues were a combination of blitz pickup and shoddy stunt handling…
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 15, 2008 1:42 PM EDT
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three things...
three things I saw tonight that excited me:
1. AWESOME playcalling – anything but vanilla! They had 4 WRs and 1 back… ON FIRST DOWN! unheard of in Buffalo. Kudos to Turk (and i’m sure they’re holding some back for the regular season as well)
2. Starting Defense was decent. They kept Big Ben and the Pittsburgh number 1 Offense off the scoreboard. They were excellent against the run. Big Ben’s 40 yard TD pass came against the second string defense.
3. I’m still concerned about depth, all around. The o-line is depleted by injuries and Peters and the second string defense across the board is underwhelming. Here’s hoping we have some luck with injuries this year!
P.S. Best Trent looked as a Bill, Keep it up!
P.P.S. How do you take the NFL’s best punt returner (Parrish) off of the field for another great (McKelvin)? It’s a good problem to have I guess!
John I.
by jri111 on Aug 15, 2008 1:32 AM EDT 0 recs
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1. Offensive strategy all around looked better. In the first game there was alot of presnap motion, etc., which I am not a big fan of, and that seemed to be gone, while as well the offense seemed much more in sync.
2. First team D was, but i do think the front 4 lets up a bit in the preseason in going after the QB, especially since we have some classy vets up there who aren’t trying to ruin anyone’s season.
3. Depth is an issue, and frankly I can ’t believe we went 7-9 with most of those guys on defense last year.
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on
Aug 15, 2008 8:13 AM EDT
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Some props for players I saw, but yet to see mentioned.....
Bryan Scott – pretty much in Mendenhalls face that entire drive before he got the TD
Duke Preston – seemed like he owned the second team player of the steelers as the run game was able to gouge the middle of the D
Xavier Omon – ran hard and had a 4.4 ypc average…and didnt fumble…unlike Dwayne Wright……(im not gonna be suprised when he gets cut)
Derrick Dockery – was great pulling tonight……the entire line was pretty awesome
Brad Butler -rock steady….what a great signing by the Bills….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 15, 2008 3:40 AM EDT 0 recs
Scott
I took special notice of him as well. He is a big safety, and stil quick enough to attack the run. I am just not as sure about him in coverage.
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on
Aug 15, 2008 8:14 AM EDT
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Leaping Wendlings
If anyone finds a clip of Wendling jumping over the line ST line to try and block the field goal I would love to see it. Bobby April is a genius as ST coach.
by south123 on Aug 15, 2008 8:01 AM EDT 0 recs
Right
I thought they would try it and it did enough (possibly) to screw up the field goal. I think it is just so jarring for a kicker to see some maniac leaping over the pile that it is hard to focus.
Another thing on April, he just is a straight motivator and a great player’s coach. I would not be surprised to see him as a head coach some day, at some level
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on
Aug 15, 2008 8:16 AM EDT
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Wouldn't mind
I never looked much into it, but seeing how he rallies his team is very encouraging for the future of our team if DJ does not work out…which I don’t exactly want to happen either because that means our team is failing
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on
Aug 15, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
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John Paul Beard-Laden
How about that thing on JP’s face. From “Trade Me Beard” to “Terrorist Bear”; by the time the regular season comes along we’ll have “Team Wolf”.
Anyway, he was “accurate” but his decision making is flawed, and did not seem confident in the pocket. Shouldn’t JP be the one running down the field for 22 yard scampers?
Also, even his screen pass was a “bad” throw. He has no touch. Anyway, some one should tell him he’ll get a scooby snack if he gets another TD
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on Aug 15, 2008 8:22 AM EDT 0 recs
Dwight Schrute is pretty afraid of “Terrorist Bear” as well. Bear attacks come when you least expect them; Terrorist Bear attacks, even more so. :)
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 15, 2008 8:38 AM EDT
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I thnk i meant terrorist beard, but hey, I think we all get the idea
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by killascript on
Aug 15, 2008 9:15 AM EDT
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I know you meant terrorist beard. I just find it hard to pass up any opportunity to mention Dwight Schrute.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 15, 2008 9:25 AM EDT
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Dwight is the man.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Aug 15, 2008 10:12 AM EDT
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JP should be the one running down the field
JP was not so comfortable with the second sting OL (and it looked the only bad JP made the trip across the border…maybe the good JP had passport problems?).
by LGB on
Aug 15, 2008 8:44 AM EDT
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now thats just JP being JP........
good one game…….not so the next…….consistancy will always be JP;s problem.
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by norcaliangelsfan on
Aug 16, 2008 12:17 AM EDT
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New Turk offense
The Bills looked much better in their 2nd preseason game and fan’s have to be exited to see the new look offense, which clearly is allowing the Bills to open it up a little more. How many times did we see Edwards out of the shotgun on first down last year? It is great to see the RBs used out of the backfield in the receiving game as been the case in camp this year.
Getting the RB down the field 5 yards and getting him the ball fast on the first couple of downs, will hopefully limit the number of third and longs this year. Our red zone offense should be much improved this year in this scheme (along with the addition of Hardy) and it was great to see the tight end used last night for two TDs.
Still some concerns on defense getting to the QB and the ‘bend but don’t break’ principal still seems to be in effect.
by LGB on Aug 15, 2008 8:38 AM EDT 0 recs
Nah...
I’m gonna have to agree and say our D was just being classy. They’re very fast and could have clobbered Big Ben multiple times but they don’t want to get hurt or injure another team’s star player. There was even a shot of Marcus Stroud hugging Roethlisberger instead of taking him down and I think Tasker commented about that. Given a real game situation, there’s no doubt in my mind Ben would have been on the ground more than a few times.
Wearing my Bills jersey to the Eagles-Bills game last year in Philly probably wasn't the smartest thing I've ever done. But then again, that's why they call me die-hard.
by FemaleFanatic85 on Aug 15, 2008 10:02 AM EDT 0 recs
Donahoe a clairvoyant
Did Donahoe forsee the Bills in Canada because the jerseys he switched to look similar to the Montreal Alouettes. I hope like hell that Brandon petitions to the NFL to go back to the throwbacks (my favorites) or the 90’s versions with the white helmets.
by the Skycap on Aug 15, 2008 10:19 AM EDT 0 recs
RB Competition
In my opinion, Omon performance last night pushed him ahead of Wright as the third RB on the team. Wright’s only problem is his fumbling. Unless they give him the Travis Henry cure, he be cut along with Bruce Hall who should be gone today.
by the Skycap on Aug 15, 2008 10:23 AM EDT 0 recs
Agreed
though I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Hall. I wouldn’t cut him just yet.
Anybody know if Wright could be placed on the PS??
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 15, 2008 10:36 AM EDT
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I think so yes.
He needs the old Football-Duct taped-to-him trick.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Aug 15, 2008 11:16 AM EDT
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Nope.
Once you’re on the active squad for 9+ games you lose eligibility.
by twoeightnine on
Aug 15, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
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Nope. Without him, depth at WR is frankly terrible. (It’s not great with him, either.)
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 15, 2008 10:32 AM EDT
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1 thing to consider
Superfan82 might just be willing to bump up the compensation out of his own pocket to what ever team was willing to take Reed.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Aug 15, 2008 11:15 AM EDT
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few things
Glad to see Evans getting open and Trent hitting him downfield. We need that to be a money combo this year. I also liked giving him a chance to pick up some YAC, something he hasn’t proven yet. He’s got the speed and strength to succeed there.
Also glad to see Lynch and Jackson used early and often in the pass game. As LGB mentioned above, it’s good to use those plays on first downs to reduce 3rd and longs later on. I agree.
We need Peters badly. Trent almost got killed today because Walker’s too slow to be a LT. We can probably have a similar run game with the current lineup, but I dread seeing Trent getting punished because Peters is out.
With 10 days until the Colts game, and a few days off, wouldn’t this be a great time for the FO and Peters to really get together and hunker down to get something done??
I’m still not impressed with our secondary. Still too much cushion on WR’s and struggles on 3rd downs. I know we need a pass rush, but our secondary just seems a step slow at times. I want to see more of Simpson in the preseason as well. Bryan Scott looked great last night though. Great against the run and wasn’t awful against the pass. If Simpson goes down, I’d be more comfortable switching Whitner over to FS than bringing Wilson in…
Not sure I can agree with our D letting up on Ben R. That’s how OUR guys can get hurt. Maybe they weren’t out to drill him, but they sure as heck aren’t going to just avoid hitting him.
Love McKelvin returning kicks though I’ll stick w/Roscoe and McGee to start the year.
For the film session, can you see how Fine, McCargo, and the LB’s did?
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 15, 2008 10:35 AM EDT 0 recs
McCargo was stout against the run and penetrated into the backfield alot. Ellison seems to have degressed. He was terrible in pass coverage and wasn’t good against the run either.
by the Skycap on
Aug 15, 2008 10:51 AM EDT
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Any word on how bad Schouman’s knee is?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Aug 15, 2008 11:22 AM EDT 0 recs
From Brownie’s blog this morning:
SCHOUMAN INJURY: Derek Schouman left Thursday night’s game in the first quarter with what appeared to be a left leg injury. Head coach Dick Jauron did not comment on it after the game. Schouman was rolled up from behind while trying to block on a kick return. We’ll have more information as it becomes available.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 15, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
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Can't be too bad
I’m just guessing here. If he was hurt in the first Q on a kickoff, he was playing afterwards. He had a pass thrown his way on our first drive.
Actually, now that I think about it, Brown says on a kick return. We didn’t return a kick until the 2nd Q after Holmes’ TD. Maybe he was hurt on a punt or trying to cover a kick?
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 15, 2008 11:57 AM EDT
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Holmes Touchdown
Was that touchdown Youboty’s fault (Cover 3), Wilson’s fault (Cover 2), or something else?
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
by Fort Worth on
Aug 15, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
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Blame them both I say.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Aug 15, 2008 1:03 PM EDT
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1st Post
I have been reading this site for the last couple months and have been a bills fan for 20 years. For the first time in a really long time I think we have an above average squad and not only that but a team that could be good for a long time. Nice work Dicky J.
by taskersd on Aug 15, 2008 11:29 AM EDT 0 recs
Here are a few thoughts that I havn’t seen anyone mention and I never read the open game threads. Just too many posts for me to catch up on.
If the Bills were running their standard cover 2, then Holmes’ long TD catch is as much Wilson’s fault as Youboty’s and it is probably more on Wilson than Youboty. Wilson is supposed to be the corners safety net on those deep routes. That is the entire point of the cover 2.
I thought Chris Kelsay looked pretty decent against Washington and had another solid game last night. He isn’t great against the run, but he doesn’t deserve a lot of the flak that Bills fans have given him on this blog. He was terrible rushing the passer last year, but he has drawn a holding penalty two games in a row that would have resulted in sacks. I thought Kelsay was going to emerge into a solid starting DE last year and he actually regressed some instead. He should be better this year.
Poz looked good. We are going to see him register a lot of tackles 5+ yards downfield, but people need to realize that is just the nature of the position. All of his tackles can’t be around the line of scrimmage. As long as he continues to make some plays in addition to tackles downfield a bit, then he is doing his job.
by kaisertown on Aug 15, 2008 11:55 AM EDT 0 recs
And one more, Omon has gotten some credit for a great game last night, but I thought Wright looked pretty good in his own right. I think the 3rd RB competition is really heating up and should come right down to the finish. I think the determing factor is who runs harder, Wright’s fumbles and special teams.
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Aug 15, 2008 11:58 AM EDT
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Kelsay/Poz
I think the Bills were in cover 3 on the TD, though I’m probably wrong. It’s tough to tell who’s fault it was as we don’t really know if Wilson was supposed to get deep or if Youboty was, or both.
Kelsay has looked better thus far in limited action, so that may be a good sign. He was all-around awful last year, both against the run and rushing the passer. If he can become even average this year, our D will be helped out immensely.
Of course Poz will get a bunch of tackles downfield some, but I want to see him making some plays at the line and in the backfield. I haven’t seen much of that last year nor thus far this preseason.
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 15, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
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K, Poz has had at least one tackle at or behind the LOS in both pre-season games this year.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 15, 2008 12:27 PM EDT
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There's another possibility
It could be the MLB’s fault for not communicating the play correctly to Wilson and Youboty. That probably would have been DiGiorgio, right?
by Krenn on
Aug 15, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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Defensive play calls are pretty simple and straight forward. It is really unlikely that the mistake was anybody’s other than Youboty or Wilson.
Tasker seemed to think they were in cover 2 and that it was primarily Wilson’s fault. I think he was right. Wilson was obvioulsy supposed to give Youboty help over the top and was just too slow in getting over.
by kaisertown on
Aug 15, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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Angelo Crowell
I ask this every week, but do we need to be worried about his injury? It seems that his injury has not “worsened”, but it is troubling that he barely practices and plays, even though the problem seems not major and he has been in recovery mode for a long time. Its easy to forget that he has been one of our top defensive players for a couple of years — we need him!
by labill on Aug 15, 2008 4:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Thursday's Game
I think the Bills 1st team looked great on Thursday night. I thought the playcalling and execution were great. Roethlisberger didn’t even score his touchdown until the 2nd team defense was in. As much as I thought they played well, though, I feel they have a lot to overcome to become an elite team in the AFC. And I don’t think they will make the playoffs. It was a nice outing though.
To see more of my thoughts on why the Bills won’t make the playoffs visit my site at www.nflfanswhocare.com
by rondogg on Aug 16, 2008 12:16 PM EDT 0 recs













