The Battle for the Final Roster Spots
As the pre-season begins to wind down, some of the Buffalo Bills' fringe players have one game left to show their stuff. So the question becomes: what spots on the roster are most up for grabs and who's fighting for these final spots? Besides the positions that have been discussed previously (Backup TE, Backup LT, Starting CB, Returners, Starting DT), there are some strong battles being waged between players of different positions fighting to make the final roster.
How many spots are available?
To start off, I'd like to point out the positions I feel we are comfortable enough to say who and how many players will make it. I left a few positions up for grabs as one of those guys is likely to grab the final spot.
QB: 2 (Edwards, Losman)
RB: 3 (Lynch, Jackson, Omon(or Wright I suppose))
FB: 1 (Barnes)
TE: 3 (Royal, Fine, Schouman)
WR: 5 (Evans, Reed, Parrish, Hardy, Jenkins)
OL: 9 (Peters, Dockery, Fowler, Butler, Walker, Chambers, Whittle, Preston, Bell)
DE: 4 (Schobel, Kelsay, Denney, Ellis)
DT: 4 (Stroud, Williams, McCargo, Johnson)
LB: 6 (Posluzny, Mitchell, Crowell, DiGiorgio, Ellison, Spragan for now)
CB: 5 (McGee, Greer, McKelvin, Corner, Youboty/James)
S: 5 (Whitner, Scott, Simpson, Wilson, Wendling)
ST: 3 (Moorman, Lindell, Neill)
That gives us a rough total of 50 roster spots that should be pretty set at this point, at least numbers wise. Again, the battle for the 5th WR, backup C and 5th CB are all debatable by many, but we will definitely be keeping someone for those spots. That leaves us with roughly 3 open spots to be filled by any number of individuals from various positions: 3rd QB, 4th RB, 4th TE, 6th WR, 10th OL, 9th DL, 7th LB or 6th CB. There should be some heated competition for these final roster spots and it should come down to a number of deciding factors, which we'll discuss after the jump.

What spots may be most important to keep?
In order to best quantify who could and maybe should win the final spots, it may be necessary to rank the importance of keeping an extra player at these positions. I'd break it down in order of importance at this point, as such: 4th TE, 7th LB, 3rd QB, 6th WR, 6th CB, 9th DL , 10th OL, 4th RB. I've debated where to rank these positions, and have switched it around a few times, but currently I'd rank them as of right now that way.
A 10th OL is only being considered due to Jason Peters' absence and the injury to Langston Walker. I don't believe we would keep a 10th man here unless Peters is definitely going to remain a holdout and Walker's injury keeps him out of week 1. As of now, I would not keep 10 OL.
The 4th TE spot is probably the one position where I would almost guarantee someone makes it. I'd have to believe that Robert Royal and Derek Fine are rather safe based on all reports. Derek Schouman is likely safe, even though he is injured and hasn't shown a whole lot this preseason. The 4th TE position is likely to be kept because of his injury. We have heard very little about the extent of it, so I will assume he's going to be missing some actual games. With that the battle is between Tim Massaquoi and Courtney Anderson. I really like Courtney Anderson's size, red zone ability and potential in short yardage situations, but Massaquoi is also a big bodied TE. I may have to give the edge here to Massaquoi because of his ST abilities and because he is considered a better blocker than Anderson. Either way, this is a tossup at this point anyhow. Maybe the bigger question is whether the winner sticks after Schouman returns. With the triumphant return of the FB position to our offense, it will be important to have a player capable of filling that role in case of an injury to Barnes (Schouman and Fine in this case). Because of that, we will likely need to keep that 4th TE around for a while.
After the 4th TE, it's really a crapshoot for the final spots. A 7th LB would probably fill a ST role only, though we all saw the need for depth at this position based on last year's rash of injuries. A Blake Costanzo or Jon Corto has a great shot at making the final roster if they have been convincing enough to Bobby April and company. Corto may be playing his way into an actual backup LB role, maybe even in favor of the much bigger Donnie Spragan. The Bills have frequently kept only 2 QB's in the recent past. That's not to say they'll do it again. With Edwards seemingly an injury risk each week and coming off the bruised quad and Losman being right there with him, we may have no other choice than keeping Gibran Hamdan on the opening day roster. Now the question is, can we feel comfortable enough with a guy like Matt Baker on the practice squad being called up in an emergency or keeping Hamdan as the #3 on the active roster, as he is ineligible for the PS? I think this will be one of the biggest questions the coaching staff will need to consider when paring down the final spots. To me, Hamdan is not worth taking up a roster spot when I would have to believe he would remain on the open market after we cut him.
Two of the deepest and most talented (depthwise) positions on the roster appear to be WR and CB. With Justin Jenkins proving to be a great ST gunner (and improving WR) and Steve Johnson looking great thus far these past few months, the staff may decide keeping 6 WR's is more than worth keeping a player at another position that may seem more important. Personally, I love both players, Johnson for his size, skills and potential, Jenkins for his tough-nosed attitude and ST capabilities. I also really like our CB depth. After last season's injury debacle at the position, I am hardly averse to keeping the 6 players at this position, especially with the talent at the back end of the depth chart. The question remains, is Will James the guy on the way out if we only keep 5? Youboty has stepped up to the plate for the most part, including on Special Teams, Corner has looked pretty good all-around and McKelvin is obviously still adjusting to the NFL, but has had moments. Right now, James should be considered fifth in line, at least to us, even though he is still getting first team nickel time. This will be another hard choice, keeping a 6th CB or another position on the team.
Finally, I'm not sure how much of a chance a 9th DL or a 4th RB truly has. With Spencer Johnson's ability to play inside or out and a quality 4 man rotation in place at DT and Ryan Neill capable of playing a few plays here and there at DE, I'm not sure where another player would help this team. I also don't see another player along the DL who is actually worth keeping around. This is a position where the Practice Squad will come in handy. I really like Xavier Omon's potential and he seems to have taken control of the #3 RB position. With Dwayne Wright's fumblitis a constant issue for him, he has likely played his way out of a job here. He does have some ST ability and seems to be the blocking FB on kick returns, so we may need to try Omon there in the Detroit game to see what we have. Right now, Wright is wrong and is not worth keeping over a more talented 6th WR or CB. I'd have to believe Bruce Hall has a decent chance at making our practice squad as well.
The Final Verdict
Right now, I would have to go with the team keeping a 4th TE, a 6th CB and a 6th WR, with the assumption that Walker will be fine for Seattle and maybe even Peters shows up. With the special teams abilities of players like Justin Jenkins, Derek Fine, John DiGiorgio, Jason Whittle, George Wilson, John Wendling, Keith Ellison and now Xavier Omon, Darien Barnes, Derek Schouman, Reggie Corner and Ashton Youboty, I think we will be able to hold off on keeping the 7th LB for ST only purposes. Again, maybe the biggest questions comes down to whether we keep the 3rd QB or not. I am of the opinion that Gibran Hamdan is somebody that can be replaced by a PS QB if need be, and also would unlikely to be picked up by another team if he were to be released, so he's out in my book.
OK Rumblers, rip it up and provide your final roster spot breakdowns....
(Note: I had originally written this at the end of July and have updated it accordingly.)
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Good Overview
This is a good overview Korupt. I have a coup[e of thoughts/observations. First—I strongly believe that they will carry 6 CBs and 6 WRs, meaning that all the CBs getting rotation time will make it, as will Stevie Johnson at WR.
The injury factor is going to have a huge role on the composition of the final 53. For example—-if Fine is, as they say, going to be out “for awhile,” then he most likely will be place on the PUP List, meaning he will not be eligible to play for the first six weeks of the year. With Schouman’s status for Week One unclear—then this most likely opens up a huge chance for Courtney Anderson. I can’t see any way we head into the opener with just Royal as the only healthy TE. OT Murphy looks like he is headed for PUP as well.
If Peters stays out, and let’s assume he will, then I believe the Bills will be out there looking for another O-lineman come Saturday evening after all the cuts are announced. Bell. Preston,. Whittle and Bell are the current OLine backups it appears but I do think we will add another. There is somewhat of a Cardinal Rule in the NFL that of the Game-day 45, you have to have at least one O-Lijeman who can swing between OG and T. Maybe that’s why we’ve seen Preston out at RT during the preseason, but I think we will be adding a body to the 53 here—again assuming that Peters stays out.
I think Hamden WILL make the team by the way unless somebody appears on waivers that stuns OBD. They like his maturity, attitude and accuracy.
The one real “battle” remaining as I see it is Wright/Omon. I would not read too much into the fact that Omon got the early snaps against the Colts. Just a matter of the staff seeing what he can do against a slightly higher caliber of competition. I do think the staff feels like Wright is the better player both short and long-term, BUT (big BUT here)—they simply just do not trust him not to leave the ball on the ground. I call this one a toss-up at the moment.
Geronimo
by Geronimo on Aug 27, 2008 8:55 AM EDT 0 recs
Would it be Courtney Anderson for sure, or does Massaquoi have a shot?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Aug 27, 2008 9:05 AM EDT
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i dont know hwy Massaquoi would threaten Anderson
Courtney Anderson could have huge red zone and receiving potential, especially with the injuries to Fine an Schouman, that will help Trent get rid of the ball quickly. I know the team loves guys who can contribute on ST but what else is Massaquoi good for besides being an ok blocker?
McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year
by poz on
Aug 27, 2008 11:19 AM EDT
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What is Courtney Anderson known for? Not much either. I believe Massaquoi is also like 6’5", so he’s still be a red zone threat, though he’s not much of a receiver. It’ll probably be Anderson kept, but I can see why they may want to keep Massaquoi instead if it’s either or. They both very well may make it if the Fine/Schouman injuries keep them out into October and beyond.
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 27, 2008 11:24 AM EDT
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if they keep both
what position would suffer do you think?
McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year
by poz on
Aug 27, 2008 11:42 AM EDT
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in terms of cuts to the roster
McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year
by poz on
Aug 27, 2008 11:43 AM EDT
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Steve Johnson
or Hamdan
Since I had JOhnson making the team, it would be him losing out unfortunately. I can’t see us not keeping all 6 CB’s at this point.
However, if both Anderson and Massaquoi are kept, I’d have to believe either Schouman or Fine’s roster spot is opened up though. We can’t use 5 spots on TE’s. That’s just dumb. Schouman is probably the one to deal with unless Fine’s injury is significant enough to keep him out for half the season or so…
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 27, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
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Consider this
Which of those two (Anderson or Massaquoi) is best at the HB position. Fine and Schouman were working at that spot in case Barnes went down. Now with both of those guys out, a solid blocker like Massaquoi who could play HB might have more value then Anderson because he can back up 2 spots.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on
Aug 27, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
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Thanks G
I like both CB and WR as keeping 6, but Steve Johnson is probably my last guy on the team. If guys keep going down (see TE), he’s going to have a tough time making it numbers-wise.
I don’t believe Fine, Schouman or Murphy can be placed on the PUP list. I’m pretty sure that is reserved for guys who have been on the PUP list all preseason (like David Tyree). They just get switched over to the active PUP list for the first 6 weeks of the season. We pretty much have to hold a roster spot for any of those guys then, which is why Murphy should be headed to the IR on Saturday or earlier. He’s definitely not worth keeping around when he has a torn rotator cuff. We need the roster spot.
Peters is going to have to go on the Exempt list while he is away, so that frees up his spot on the team. If we keep the other 8 OL I have listed, I don’t think we add another unless the Peters situation indicates he won’t be showing up at all.
I’m still not high on the idea of keeping a 3rd QB just to have one. We need a roster spot elsewhere more than we need Hamdan, IMO. Again, I feel he’d be sitting out their jobless after we cut him in case we needed him down the line, just like last year.
I actually think we should read into the Wright/Omon situation against the Colts. Wright came in AFTER Bruce Hall to get late 4th Q reps. I understand wanting to get Omon earlier carries, which they did at the expense of Freddie’s 2nd team work I believe. I don’t see how Wright is the better player in any way, he is sooooo slow, runs ways to high and can’t hold onto the rock. Omon is quicker, shiftier, runs hard and just seems to have a much brighter future. We’ve seen Wright for 2 preseasons now and he can’t hold onto the ball, I think that is a major detriment to anything else he’s shown…
Any news on Evans by any chance?
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 27, 2008 11:05 AM EDT
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10 offensive lineman won’t happen. Teams typically only keep 8 and nobody ever keeps 10. BB.com already lists Peters in a seperate “reserve” section on the roster and they will definitely be putting him on the exempt list if he doesn’t show up soon. I would guess that the team will keep 9 if Peters shows up and 8 if he doesn’t (or basically they will keep 8 and Peters would make 9 whenever he shows). Sadly, it is time for us to stop listing Peters as an active member of the roster.
I would not be at all concerned waiving Steve Johnson and putting him on the practice squad. If the Bills think he is one of their best 53 players then it would be great to see him make the team, but I think a lot of fans will be putting him on their own 53 man roster out of fear that another club may grab him. There were 35 WRs drafted last year and 34 the year before. Every team has their own version of Steve Johnson who has talent and is trying to make the team as the 5th or 6th WR. Johnson would be safe on the PS.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Fine placed on a PUP or IR list (not counting as one of the 53 spots) and the Bills to keep 4 TEs anyways. All their TEs are so different that if they havn’t carved out roles yet, I could see alll four making the team.
So with all that I will vote
8 OL -that gives me 4 spots to play with.
6 CB
4 TE
7 LB
3 QB
by kaisertown on Aug 27, 2008 9:42 AM EDT 0 recs
Fine PUP
AGain, I don’t believe he can be placed on PUP because he has been playing all preseason. We’d have to put him on IR if anything. If his injury will keep him out for say 2 months, IR is where he should be headed. We can’t wait that long for a guy to come back. Same w/Schouman, though it sounds like he could be back at some point in September.
Agree that Steve Johnson can find his way on the PS without much problem. I just think he offers some ST ability and is talented enough to make the 53, so it would not surprise me whatsoever if he makes it. Hopefully, we don’t see anymore injuries this week.
Peters will be on the inactive exempt list if he doesn’t show. The team has to do that.
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 27, 2008 11:07 AM EDT
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In thinking about it...
I may have been remisss in not focusing on the Corto/Spraggans "battle for the 7th LB spot. In my own opinion, Spraggans gets the nod for a couple of reasons. Corto is awfully similiar to Ellison, while Spraggans gives us more size, and is less likely to sneak through waivers onto the PS than Corto is.
I think three TEs will be how they end up now that they have a regular FB. It would be nice to know how close Schouman is to returning. They may be forced to have just Roayl/Anderson active for the first game or two if it is gonna be 2-3 more weeks.
I just do not see Massaquoi making it.
It is also possible they could trade for a swing G/OT which I think is important.
Geronimo
by Geronimo on Aug 27, 2008 10:00 AM EDT 0 recs
Corto/Spragan
would be a battle for #6 LB. I like Spragan because he gives us size and experience. Nobody is going to sign Corto if we cut him, so another year of seasoning on the PS and apparently time to add weight will be good for him. When one of our LB"s get hurt, we can bring him up without a problem
So, do you think OBD has Anderson ahead of Massaquoi? I feel that Massaquoi’s blocking and ST’s ability give him a great chance. That was before Fine went down, so Anderson’s better receiving skills may be just as necessary. Can you see them keeping all FIVE TE’s if Fine and Schouman are out for at least a month or so???
I wonder if Whittle can be the swing.
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 27, 2008 10:56 AM EDT
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Geronimo
You have anything other than what we have heard on the Peters situation? Is this Peters or his agent making this mess and why won’t he show up? The Bills have made it clear they won’t budge?
Also, as the pre-season winds down does OBD have reservations about how much of an impace Hardy/McKelvin can have this season? I think they both have bright futures but they seem to be progressing slowly?
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Aug 27, 2008 10:44 AM EDT 0 recs
Peters
I have not heard one single thing new on Peters. I know that two weeks ago the two sides were actually in contact and talks went nowhere. It was OBD simply reaffirming that they will not negotiate until he showed up on the field. You’ve seen the response on the Peters side. I think that OBD thinks that this is all Peters and not Parker. Truly a bizarre tale.
My own opinion is that unless he shows up before the Seattle game—his fate is sealed in Buffalo. he will be traded—the date is the only thing to be determined. Think about it. If he comes back anytime by Week 10, thus getting him a years’s worth of service time—the Bills have NO guarantee that he won’t do the same exact thing next year. He would have OBD worrying every year for the next three—will he or won’t he show up? He is a goner for sure.
I do not think their draft day’s opinons on Hardy and McKelvin have changed much. The hammy thing has hurt Hardy for sure—-and McKelvin has really been only the victim of outstanding camps by Greer and Youboty. I do know they feel somewhat vindicated by R. Corner’s play—he has turned out to be the hardnosed ballhawk they thought he was when everybody else dissed them for the pick.
I am really hoping that they will let McKelvin return KOs and give him some confidence as well as resting McGee.
Geronimo
by Geronimo on
Aug 27, 2008 11:13 AM EDT
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So they had a brief discussion and Peters/Parker just said see ya later? I still don’t understand why he won’t show up if the FO keeps indicating they’d negotiate if he is on the field. It does sounds like he could be done in Buffalo if he doesn’t get here soon, and that’s a damn shame. We finally find a top LT and boom, he goes AWOL/Crazy. We’ll have to spend our 1st rounder on the position next year and continue our wonderful rebuilding.
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 27, 2008 11:22 AM EDT
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Gloom and doom aside, I think we can ditch the “rebuilding” term for just “building”.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 27, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
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Can IR be used for spite?
Rather than deal with the will-he/won’t-he drama, could the Bills decide to put him on IR? He wouldn’t take up a roster spot and Buffalo wouldn’t have to worry about him showing up out of shape week 10 (or whenever) and possibly being a disruption.
If Buffalo trades him they’d better get a good player in return. Given how much LTs are valued compared to centers maybe the team could swing a deal for an established center and a 3rd round draft pick….
by Ron From NM on
Aug 27, 2008 3:32 PM EDT
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Then they'd have to pay him his full salary for sitting at home.
Instead of paying him nothing. And I’m guessing the union would also raise a fit.
by twoeightnine on
Aug 27, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
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Placing him on the roster exempt list enables the Bills to not pay him and they can keep him off the 53 man roster even if he shows up. The Bills will do this on whatever day the last round of cuts are.
If the Bills trade Peters, they will only get draft picks in return. It is rare for players to be traded for other players and the Bills can get the best return value with picks too.
by kaisertown on
Aug 27, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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Schouman
I will go out with a shocker prediction, given the injury problems at TE — the Bills cut Schouman because it can’t cut Fine (he’d be picked up) and needs to keep a 2nd TE (Massaquoi!) to Royal until Fine comes back; and the Bills certainly have no room for 4 TEs. By the way, Schouman looked terrible in preseason game action even though he did well in practice (i.e., given a chance to start and he blew it) and frankly, I don’t see another team picking him up (by the way, is he eligible to go to the PS — also, because of the injury, what are the Bills’ options on him?). Also, I don’t see any way the Bills keep only 2 QBs — I really love the idea, but I don’t see that happening given what happened last year (even this week, Edwards has a thigh bruise and JP has a continuing thumb injury).
by labill on Aug 27, 2008 11:25 AM EDT 0 recs
Instead of cutting Schouman, it’s much more likely that they’d put him on IR if the injury is bad enough. He should be eligible for the practice squad, though.
by Krenn on
Aug 27, 2008 11:35 AM EDT
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The won't keep only 2...
Someone will be placed on the PS, either Baker or some other camp’s numbers casualty. The only reason to keep Hamdan on the roster is if you’re expecting Trent and JP to be injured in the same game. Unless that happens you can re-sign him again later in the season. I can’t see a single team saying “man, I’m really worried about that number 3 QB position. We better get that guy in here right away after he spent 2 years learning a different system.” If we were able to do it with Craig Nall, a guy with actual NFL game experience, we can do it with Gibran Hamdan.
by twoeightnine on
Aug 27, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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Bryan
Copeland Bryan looks to be making a quiet push for a roster spot as a 5th DE over players like Buggs, Banks, and Jason Jefferson.
GO BLUE!!!
by Kumario! on Aug 27, 2008 1:15 PM EDT 0 recs
eh
I don’t want to keep 5 DE’s, one of which would never play or be active. Remember, Neill can play DE in a pinch too, along with Spencer Johnson.
What exactly has Bryan done this preseason anyhow?
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 27, 2008 1:22 PM EDT
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Steve Johnson
Johnson will make the roster. Call me crazy, but I think Josh Reed is the guy that should be worried.
by billsfan1970 on Aug 27, 2008 1:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Not this year
Should have been cut years ago, but now he has proven to be good route runner, and vet leader who does well enough to deserve a roster spot. I hope we keep 6 wrs
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on
Aug 27, 2008 1:39 PM EDT
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There is literally a 0% chance that Josh Reed is either worried or should be. He’s a lock to make this team.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 27, 2008 1:52 PM EDT
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Omon/Wright
I think this decision will show if the Bills can have the gumption to cut ties with a 4th round selection. I know they don’t want to admit they were wrong, but Omon offers more spunk to the position and is quicker. The hope for Wright was he could be a bruiser, but he clearly is not that type of back. Turk has shown he will spread out 3 wide and run the ball and that fits quicker backs more so than Bigger backs. If Wright could have proved to be a goal line back or short yardage I would say keep him, but he is not that back. Marshawn can do that, and Freddy aids a great dimension and I think if Freddy goes down Omon could fill his role nicely.
MARVelous
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