The problem is Parker, NOT Peters

by WABillsfan on Aug 27, 2008 6:56 PM EDT

I just posted this in Hilliardavid's post on Peters and I feel I just outta let people how I look at the situation up front. The issue is partly Peter's but the main problem is Parker. He fed Peter's feelings of I gotta get me some now, to make more money, and we are now stuck with the mess. The funny thing is, I have a feeling Parker didn't know what he was getting into when he took on Wilson and Co. as well as what he had in Peters. Everything I've read says Peters is a sensitive guy to an extent, and who knows how he feels now that the guy who promised him everything can't make ground on the FO, and the FO has basically said F'You show up to work. I hope the man isn't suffering from depression, but I think he might be, and thats why this is such a mess.

BUT, the issue is still Parker, and he are my thoughts from the post, I'm to lazy to rewrite them again:

The problem with Parker is this

He did NOT get the money from the new contract Peter’s signed 2 years ago. That was Vincent Taylor who was Peter’s old agent. What happened here is that Dock and Walker got big contracts, Peter’s bitched to Taylor about it, Taylor probably did the smart thing and told him he should wait till this season to talk to the FO for a new raise. Peter’s probably didn’t like this advice so was grumpy.

Meanwhile, Parker was probably calling and texting Peter’s every day since there are probably other player’s who saw this and commented on it to Parker as he is their agent. So what happens? Parker tells Peter’s that he will get him a big fat new contract to make him the highest payed player on the team, or at the in the top 10 of LTs. Peter’s miffed at getting Taylor’s (very sensible advice to NOT ROCK THE CASH BOAT) fires Taylor and goes with Parker because he promised him wine, woman, song and a new boatload of cash.

So now Parker is looking at cashing in on not just Steven Jackson’s 44 mil, (I would bet you a pile of cash myself if I could spare it that Parker is bagging somewhere between 5-10% of the contract total value for SJ and Peters) , but also on whatever he can get out of the Bills. So now we have a situation where Peters feels miffed about Taylor and the team not giving him isntant gratification and of course Parker is peeing himself now that the Bills have called his BS bluff.

So let’s say Parker is getting 5% of SJs and Peter’s contracts. So lets take 5% of 44 mil, thats 2.2 MILLION dollars he just made. Assuming Peters gets Dock cash, 49mil over 7 years on top of what he just got this last round, but Parker only sees the new deal, Parker would make another 2.45 million dollars again. God I could live off of just those two deals the rest of my life, oh yeah, and whatever cut he gets of the Licensing deals these dudes get.

By the way, why did Farve come back? Bus Cook was bitching in his ear that he needed to get back on the field quite heavily. Why? Cook was seeing his cut of the 12 mil Farve was suppossed to make this year not coming into his pocketbook, if the dude don’t play, the Agent don’t get paid. I think if Peters isn’t in camp by the 4th week, I think Parker will come crying to the Bills then since he won’t make any money off of him. Wait it out folks, Walker will be OK for us at LT for now, and we can always leave Royal in to help if need be. Parker will break in a couple of weeks, he wants HIS money, not Peters, and he won’t get it till Peters get his out of shape ass onto the field.

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I'm going to tear my hair out

I don’t care if its Parker’s fault Peters is still a punk and a moron. If he wants to act this way that is fine. I agree with you 100% WA that Parker is peeing himself right now and will cave. If Peters is not on the field by September however I revert back to one of my earlier thoughts, and something that you mentioned, that Peters is going through psychological or emotional turmoil. Whatever is the case I don’t care that its “Parkers” fault, every man is responsible for his choices and Peters is 26 friggin years old! Think about that, we like to call these players kids because in the big scheme of things they are young men. Howeve, just because their young doesn’t change the fact Peters is an adult and should be acting smarter and more rationally that he has been. If a 26 year old were working at an office he would be treated like an adult as he should be. Peters is old enough not to have to listen to Parker. S

Shawne Merriman’s decision to play this year, without getting surgery and without a guaranteed contract should make Peters hang his head in shame and feel deeply embarrassed. Here we have a THREE TIME Pro Bowler, who is only 24 years old, putting his career and his money on the line to help his team win and contribute on the field. While I don’t think Merriman is being smart either, he is certainly being noble and demonstrating the warrior mentality that is so admirable. Peters is what? 26 years old? He is set to make $4.5 mil including bonuses and has a three year deal. He is healthy and will likely have a long career. He is on a team that is finally beaming with hope, even NFL.COM’s season preview is raving about how the Bills are young, ready to get over that playoff hump, and ready to make a name for themselves. And Peters, the only Pro Bowler, turns his back on the squad because 41/2 million wasn’t enough to live on for one year while we worked out a deal? Merriman is 24 and putting his body on the line because he believes his team can win a Super Bowl.

FOR SHAME PETERS!

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 27, 2008 7:31 PM EDT 0 recs

Pay Jason Peters

My question is, why should Jason Peters be blamed for messing up a promising Bill’s season for the fast that “41/2 million wasn’t enough to live on for one year while we worked out a deal” ?

Actually, the number is 3.5 million which makes him quite underpaid for an all-pro performer. If the Bill’s management cared about the team as much as a lot of fans do, they would pay him what he was worth.

I don’t know about you, but I would not be happy if people in the office where I work, were making twice as much as me, when I was a much better worker. And that is despite the fact that there a lot of other people who would be happy to make what I make (of course, I am make a small percentage of what Peter’s makes). The point is, it is not right to tell Peters that he should be happy with 3.5 million because we would be thrilled to have that kind of money.

Also, I don’t hear Peter’s whining and crying. His actions say that if you want his services, you will have to pay him a lot more money. If not, then that will be fine with him.
His career will continue next year with a team that wants him – a long line, I am sure.

In the meantime, we will continue to be the Buffalo Bills (i.e. non playoff participants).

by mikeh on Aug 27, 2008 7:57 PM EDT 0 recs

Woah

It has been said hre that with bonuses for playing left tackle, Peters actually makes 4.5 mil with a 1.5 bonus for the LT spot. Also, he is whining and crying. Just because he isn’t vocal about it, doesn’t mean this isn’t a childish move, from a childish man. Whether its physical or psychological, I don’t care, he sin’t at camp, and he is losing. And next year, he is still a Bill, and for the next couple years, and if the Bills want they can make him pay. This could ruin his career. The Bills treat their players well, despite what some might say, as they pay their players what is deserved, and also pay them more than they deserve, betting on potential, which was the case with Peters. Now he is being a baby about it.
I am guessing we’ll be the one’s laughing if he doesn’t straighten up, not him. I mean what is he doing right now? i watch that Hard Knocks show, and frankly, he needs to be in camp. It is so important for so many players to try and be the best, and with the new offense, etc. He needs to be here more than ever, especially as a leader on the line. But hell, i don’t even care. If he’s not there, he’s not a Bill, and I’m no fan of his.

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Aug 27, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

right on

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 27, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

Actually, mikeh, Peters’ actions have been to do nothing. And in this case, “nothing” actually means nothing. He won’t talk the team. How do you propose the team negotiate when Peters won’t return their calls?

I can’t understand the logic of this, because NOTHING Peters has done has even indicated why he’s holding out in the first place. We’re just ASSUMING that he wants to get paid.

by Brian Galliford on Aug 27, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up 0 recs

?

That is all we’re left with. And it is the most frustrating part about it. Again, as I said in another post, I think the “sports hernia” surgery could be more problematic than one might think, as LJ Smith had a problem with it, as well as,as I heard on Siruius NFL radio, other players known to by the host, maybe Ross Tucker (not sure)

“Then there was the case of tight end L.J. Smith, who underwent surgery in May of 2007 for the same condition. Plenty of time to recover, right?
Wrong. Smith, who one season earlier caught 50 passes, including five for touchdowns, never was right. He finished the season with 22 catches in 10 games, before admitting he tried to come back too soon.”

This quote taken from this article from Nick Fierro of lehighvalleylive.com, a philadelphia sports site, with the following link:

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/nick-fierro/index.ssf/2008/08/immediate_action_needed_by_eag.html

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Aug 27, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

This was brought, now as I remember, because of Kevin Curtis' recent injury

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Aug 27, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

News alert!!!! - Peters want more money.

If the Brandon is so confused about what Peters wants or can’t find any way to contact him, then he is really in over his head – and I think he is. Brandon should just trade Peters for whatever he can get now. I think you would be surprised how communicative Peters could be in other circumstances.

Some other team will be very happy to get Peters (probably cheaply) and Brandon will still be whining, “Gee, he just would not talk to us”.

It is a shame. One all-pro on this team and management screws it up.

by mikeh on Aug 27, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

You are very wrong here

First, you don’t know the ins and outs of the front office (as neither do I), and secondly, everybody wants more money, but Peters is one guy, because he has not shown a commitment to be in camp, and negotiate properly, that he does not deserve it. You have the wrong ideas about who is screwing this up.
And he can sit out a year and get fat if he wants, because, if he isn’t here by week 3, and if we are doing okay, I would not allow him back the rest of the season. Also, read MARVelous’ post as well, because, maybe it will make you think more clearly

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Aug 27, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

I think you’re trying very hard to blame the Bills’ front office – admirable, to be certain, but it falls well short. I’d blame them if we didn’t know that Peters is blatantly ignoring their phone calls – but we DO know that. That renders any argument blaming the front office completely moot. You can keep trying, but there’s only so much you can do.

by Brian Galliford on Aug 28, 2008 6:38 AM EDT up 0 recs

I'mactually changing my stance on this

If it is indeed true that Peters is ignoring calls, then yeah, he’s mostly to blame. I still don’t think it should have gotten this far, as someone should have stepped in, but right now Peters is really laying a big, fat egg here….

by Kurupt on Aug 28, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up 0 recs

Pay Jason Peters......

So the actual amount is ONLY 3.5 million? I understand your point regarding the whole workplace and amount of money made. However, were you hired off of the street when absolutely NO -ONE else would give you even a sniff of a job? Furthermore, say you had 0 experience at the new position in which you were hired, they spent the time to mold you into something they felt you had potential for, and then when they thought you were underpaid for what they had you do, paid you more money.
So then to help you in your new job, they hired 2 others. Yes, for more than you were making, but they also have more EXPERIENCE.
Not to mention, Jason is not an all around all pro tackle, if he were, I dont think the Bills would have had problems gaining 1 or 2 yards to the left side. Yes, the pass blocking is/was superb, but the run blocking was less than stellar.
So, having that been said I dont agree with what you have to say. Peters is greedy, if he were to come into camp, we wouldnt be discussing this right now.

by BuffaloSuperBills on Aug 28, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

If you think

Russ Brandon has not contacted Peters, or if you think they should just trade Peters now, you should count to ten….then realize that Russ Brandon and company realize Peters is one of their most valuable, if not THE most valuable player on this team, and they are well aware that they need him to be as good as they want to be. But this is business now. I’m sure Brandon has contacted him, how could you not? At the same token, Peters has not come out and said…..ANYTHING. So we still don’t know if he went Ape-SH#* or if he just really wants more money. And if it is about the money, the answer is simple:

REPORT TO CAMP. PLAY. AND NEXT YEAR YOU WILL HAVE YOUR NEW MONEY.

IF YOU DON’T, THEN SCREW YOU, and WE WILL TRADE YOUR PUNK A** NEXT YEAR WHEN WE CAN GET VALUABLE DRAFT PICKS.

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Aug 27, 2008 11:23 PM EDT 0 recs

“IF YOU DON’T, THEN SCREW YOU, and WE WILL TRADE YOUR PUNK A** NEXT YEAR WHEN WE CAN GET VALUABLE DRAFT PICKS.”

I am quite sure that is what will happen So it will be one more year of not making the playoffs. I like Trent Edwards and think he can be a great quarterback but I don’t think he has a fair chance with Kirk Chambers at right tackle. Do you remember when Chambers replaced Peters in the Giants game last year? That is when we really started to see the value of Peters.

So it is a good thing that Schobel got a contract extension that will keep him with the team until he is 40 and Kyle Williams got his 5 million per year. My God! What a bunch of dummies that are running the team.

by mikeh on Aug 28, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up 0 recs

Kyle Williams signed an extension that made him look like he is making 5 mil a year, but he will never make more than 1.8 mil as a base salary. If you were to spread his bonuses out evenly over his contract he will make about 3 mil a year. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_contract.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3947

Schobel’s contract was a little ridiculous, no argument from me. I do feel obligated to point out that he will be 36 during the final year of his contract. Pretty old, but not exactly 40 either. I doubt he plays the last year of that contract. Almost every guaranteed dollar in his contract is built in to the beginning of the deal and the last year has a very high base salary (8.5 mil). http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_contract.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2297

by kaisertown on Aug 28, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up 0 recs

They. Want. To. Sign. Peters. Again, your vendetta against the front office is admirable, but I don’t know why this sentence:

“They are doing all they can”

isn’t working for you.

by Brian Galliford on Aug 28, 2008 6:39 AM EDT up 0 recs

Acknowledge hillarddavid

who opened a can of worms with his good “Jason Peters” post. It burst open a flood gate. Fact is, the Jason Peters issue was something we stopped talking about for about a week and a half as we all quietly waited for it to be over. Based on the numerous and passionate opinions on the three Jason peters posts up right now I think its clear that the duration of this post, and the fact that Derrick Harvey and Stephen Jackson are now both in camp, has us all a bit unnerved. I still say the Bills should stay strong. Peters will cave any day now right…..

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 28, 2008 1:06 AM EDT 0 recs

meant duration of this holdout (not post)

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 28, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up 0 recs

Sign Jason Peters

I think we can all agree, if given the choice, that we would rather see the Bills win football games rather than seeing them “stay strong” in the Peters matter.

So they should quit screwing around, put the stubbornness aside, and sign Jason Peters to a contract that will make him a happy camper. Lofty principles are best saved for third stringers where the team’s performance is not at stake.

Because the truth is, Peters is needed if the team is to make the playoffs this year. But I am getting the feeling that this will be one of those years where I stop watching after about the 5th game when it is clear that the team is going nowhere.

by mikeh on Aug 28, 2008 1:29 AM EDT up 0 recs

Question, how can we sign him if NO ONE HAS HEARD FROM HIM!!!!!!!!!

In numerous articles on this subject time and time again, Parker and Peters BOTH do not return phone calls, or text messages, and this is stuff from the press, who are ON Jason’s side. I mean, several news sources have gone by his house and KNOCKED ON THE DOOR and not a single person has answered. The press will always side with the Player unless it is something truly F’ed up like Mike Vick or Chris Henry, or Marshawn for that matter. They will always side with the little guy over the team unless it is Chris Brown.

So…… ummmmmmm…. why aren’t Parker and Peter’s using their BEST weapon here against the team? Why haven’t they actually spoken with the Press? I understand the FO, make a point, etc. etc. etc. etc., but they MUST have the press on their side if they ever hope to reseize the high ground. They have not ONCE contacted back the press to state their case, which is what every holdout known to man has done! As per Tim’s blog at espn.com states (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-2-140/Peters-holdout-lacks-a-cheering-section.html) and its pretty straight forward as from the blog post itself: “Neither Taylor nor Parker returned calls to ESPN.com for this story.” HELLO!!!!! Use the crappiest sports show/web page to make your case guys! But they aren’t….

I am really really really worried now that there is something MUCH more wrong with Peter’s than anyone knows. If he wants more cash, use all pressure possible, e.g. holdout while getting the press to do the hatchet job for you. Initially I thought he was trying to be classy about this, but its starting to look more and more like Shane Andrews issue down in Philly, I think he might seriously have some mental or emotional problem! Is he getting help? Is Parker doing anything for him? Is he seeing a professional about his, but since mental/emotional issues are so taboo in the NFL, he won’t admit it, and won’t let his agent admit there is an issue and thus were stuck with it maybe being about money when it could something worse? God I hope he gets back soon, but if he isn’t here by the 4th week, sit his ass for the year no matter what.

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Aug 28, 2008 2:31 AM EDT up 0 recs

I think we can all agree, if given the choice, that we would rather see the Bills win football games rather than seeing them "stay strong" in the Peters matter.

True statement. But the choice isn’t between those two options. The Peters situation is about the future; winning is about the present. I’m not sure what you mean by “screwing around”, either – if you mean “trying to call Peters on a routine basis”, then I hope they DON’T quit screwing around.

I don’t get how you can stop watching the Bills when you know the team is going nowhere. Do Bills fans actually do that? I thought there was some disease-riddled part of our genetic make-up that dragged us to the TV/radio/computer/Ralph Wilson Stadium when the Bills were on…

by Brian Galliford on Aug 28, 2008 6:42 AM EDT up 0 recs

I thought there was some disease-riddled part of our genetic make-up that dragged us to the TV/radio/computer/Ralph Wilson Stadium when the Bills were on…

There most certainly is, and I’m infected.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Aug 28, 2008 6:48 AM EDT up 0 recs

if

we all stopped watching 5 games into a bad season the Bills would be in Toronto already

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 28, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

“I thought there was some disease-riddled part of our genetic make-up that dragged us to the TV/radio/computer/Ralph Wilson Stadium when the Bills were on”

I agree with that and also have that issue. I used to have my mother send me tapes of the game in those seasons in the mid 80’s when they were 2-14. However, a couple of those seasons this decade when they were like 6-10, I started to tune out a little bit. I live in California and it is hard to go to a bar and watch them on the big screen when they are really doing poorly. It would be great to get back to the way it was in the early 90’s. i used to go to Grevey’s bar in Norther Virginia. That was a total Buffalo Bills bar and was jam packed with Bill’s fans going crazy every Sunday.

by mikeh on Aug 28, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up 0 recs

This is causing entirely too much drama.

It’s really very simple.
Nothing to stress out about.

Peters negotiated a contract. He can either play for the contract while working on a new deal, or he can hold out, not play, and hope to get more money.

The Bills can either pay him more money to appease him, or they can make due while he sits out. Either way it’s not a disaster and it’s certainly not up to the Bills to make the first move.

by Dyl on Aug 28, 2008 2:41 AM EDT 0 recs

I’ve been purposely avoiding this topic for a little over a week now. I’m tired of all the same arguments, and speculation, but here it some more……
Peters deserves more money but he is going about trying to get it all wrong. Plain simple and straight forward.
At this point we all had better get used to seeing Walker and Chambers, and Peters needs to hope they fail.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Aug 28, 2008 6:53 AM EDT 0 recs

Anyone care to talk about

How much I hate agents again, and how useless they are?

by krytime on Aug 28, 2008 8:21 AM EDT 0 recs

Can't negotiate with no one

And that is what is happening. Front office tries to make contact, but there is no contact. Strange. Could be the surgery…but I guess no one wants to admit it as a possibility to him nt showing up at camp and trying to get more money while he recovers, and keeping it secret.

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Aug 28, 2008 9:16 AM EDT 0 recs

ive thought this from the beginning

and got ridiculed by folks telling me hernia recovery doesnt last this long. Something is up, nobody is talking, and NObody thought it prudent to question why he was demanding money without showing up to camp after going down at the end of last year? I’m glad you still think its a valid possibility killa, because at this point, it could very well be the case, especially after the Bills agreed to negotiate once he returned. Still very much a possibility that hes not recovered as planned.

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 28, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

Check out link above

In regards to LJ Smith and the Eagles having problems with the socalled “Sports hernia”, actually here is what I wrote:

Again, as I said in another post, I think the "sports hernia" surgery could be more problematic than one might think, as LJ Smith had a problem with it, as well as,as I heard on Siruius NFL radio, other players known to by the host, maybe Ross Tucker (not sure)

"Then there was the case of tight end L.J. Smith, who underwent surgery in May of 2007 for the same condition. Plenty of time to recover, right?
Wrong. Smith, who one season earlier caught 50 passes, including five for touchdowns, never was right. He finished the season with 22 catches in 10 games, before admitting he tried to come back too soon."

This quote taken from this article from Nick Fierro of lehighvalleylive.com, a philadelphia sports site, with the following link:

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/nick-fierro/index.ssf/2008/08/immediate_action_needed_by_eag.html

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Aug 28, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

Still, Smith was extremely active during the afternoon practice, and he was able to run, cut and catch without any signs of apprehension. On Friday, head coach Andy Reid said that Smith was ahead of schedule in his recovery and seemed to reaffirm those statements on Tuesday.

That is from an article on the Eagles website that was written July 31, 2007.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=13369

Smith underwent surgery on May 31, 2007. his recovery was predicted to be 8-10 weeks (the exact same timetable as Peters as given). And he was considered by the medical staff to be around 85% health when camp started 8 weeks after the surgery.

Smith was carted off the field on August 7 after what was reported as a reaggravation of Smith’s groin injury.
http://blogs.phillyburbs.com/blog_index.php?p=17053&cat=82092010%2039

But a hernia isn’t actually a groin injury, it is an injury of the lower abdominal muscles that produces pain in the groin. The next day, the team doctors declared that the injury was completely unrelated to his hernia.
http://blogs.phillyburbs.com/blog.php?p=17092&cat=9

Smith struggled through that new groin injury as well as seperate injuries to his knee and ribs. Smith has always struggled with injuries and his hernia isn’t what limited his production last season.

Peters had surgery on January 17. It has been over 8 months. Even the worst case recovery from the hernia surgery would have left Peters healthy months ago.

by kaisertown on Aug 28, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

very well

So peters is just an A-hole then

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Aug 28, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

thats what I'm thinking

He could be hurt though too. I won’t rule that out. It just isn’t his sports hernia. I wouldn’t be shocked to find out that he blew out his knee doing something stupid and in violation of his contract or something similiar. He could have developed an anxiety or depression related problem. Maybe he is a herion addict. Who knows.

by kaisertown on Aug 28, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

He could be Jeff Kent

A few years ago, I think he was playing for the San Francisco Giants then, Kent broke his wrist riding a motorcycle, an activity that was specifically prohibited in his contract. He told the team he did got hurt washing his truck, though, so they wouldn’t fine him.

In the end, he got caught anyway, but it makes me wonder if maybe Peters did something stupid and doesn’t want to tell the Bills about it. Or maybe he’s just a stupid, greedy bastard.

by rexob on Aug 28, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up 0 recs

Who Knows

That’s the worst part about…again.
Anyway, we should all have some kind of friendly wager to see just what it is, and define odds for the possibilities.
I mean, this is one of the more stranger happenings in sports. If it were just money, there would at least be communication, but there isn’t.

In fact, get this, and this might be a good plot for a movie. The agent, the most vile and disgusting creature lurking bhind the scenes in professional sports, discovers his player, the most promising LT in the league, dead. He then, manages a scheme, so that he can get a contract worked out for the dead player. But as time goes on, it gets harder to keep the body in good shape, and the more it goes on, the deeper trouble he will get into…whatever. We should have a “Peters Pool” though.

1. Heroine/Drugs
2. Depression
3. Physical Injury
4. Just money/bad representation
5. Wants trade

Those are a few to start off if anyone is serious. Otherwise, whatever I guess…more banter and debate of the unknown

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Aug 28, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

I choose #2

Here is how I look at your list:
1- Depression/Mental issues (Bi-polar, etc.)- 35%
2- Physical Injury-30%
3- Heroine/Drugs- 15%
4- Just Money/bad Rep- 19%
5- Trade desire- 1%

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Aug 28, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

Sounds about right or...

I feel the main concern around here is #4 Just money/bad rep

But it is so strange I can’t figure it. So therefore I bet many would switch that with Physical injury and then leave the rest up for grabs.

Maybe the Patriots were talking to him….

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Aug 28, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

your movie idea

sounds like something starring Rob Schneider

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 29, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up 0 recs

Comedy it would have to be…and the stupider mayeb the better, but for sure a R rated sports comedy that isn’t some remake would be good. I don’t know, Arliss on crystal meth kind of

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by killascript on Aug 29, 2008 9:11 AM EDT up 0 recs

Weekend at Bernie's 3?

by Kurupt on Aug 29, 2008 10:31 AM EDT up 0 recs

You are so adamant about this, aren't you?

Who says he never re-injured it falling down a couple of steps, or slipping on a wet floor somewhere?

by krytime on Aug 28, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

Because you can’t reinjure a sports hernia. It isn’t one injury, but rather a series of small muscle tears that devlop over time due to repetitive movement.

by kaisertown on Aug 29, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

Jason

I agree with other posters that Jason may very well have other issues which are coming in to play here. Could be physical (not healed yet) or could be psychological (has some merit considering how bizzare this has become). Either way, OBD is 100% right in not negotiating until he reports. Then we can evaluate him and see if other issues are indeed playing a role in this. If I remember correctly, he scored a 12 on the wunderlic, just a bit better than a deer. So a case might be made that his elevator does not go to all floors.
My guess is that OBD has communicated to him that they would renegotiate the contract after he reports. So OBD is not treating this situation much differently than the Schobel contract redo. If I were Russ, I would want to know he is ready to play before signing a new check. Also agree that if he holds out until after week 4, sit him.
Remember Jason, you are not a one man army. You play on a TEAM and the team will always take precedence over any one player. He must love to play online solitaire.

by keuka121 on Aug 28, 2008 12:35 PM EDT 0 recs

Amen

I just really hope that whatever is plauging Peters whether it be physical, mental, emotional, or just plain lighter pocketbook makes him pick up the damn phone and call Russ and ask him straight up what will happen if he comes into town tomorrow.

Please Jason, make it easy on yourself, the fans and the team, show up, even out of shape, we need you here pal. You’ll get paid, but not till you show up for work.

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Aug 28, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up 0 recs