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"What if?" (Another Jason Peters piece)


Peters' camp holdout reaches Day 10 (Photo Source)

That is the question the Buffalo Bills have to ask themselves; or more specifically, "What if Jason Peters doesn't play this year...or longer?"

We can debate all day about what is going on with Jason Peters.  He could be simply holding out for more money, he might not want to cut his vacation short, maybe he has grown to hate training camp and feels that the fines are worth it not to attend, maybe he has lost his desire to play football. At this point the only thing that is obvious is that nobody has any idea where he is or why he isn't at camp.

So what does Buffalo do moving forward, armed with what little they know about Peters' situation?

The 2008 Season
The Bills can't replace Peters on the roster this year, and nobody like him will be available before the season starts. They can, however, reshuffle the line to make up for his absence. Moving Brad Butler outside to RT (his position in college) and going with Jason Whittle, Christian Gaddis or even (gulp) Duke Preston at RG is one option. Brian mentioned Friday that he thinks current RT Kirk Chambers could be a surprise cut, and showed several reasons as to why he thinks that way (specifically, the increased reps of Matt Murphy and Demetrius Bell).  Could it be however, that the Bills are preparing themselves for Peters' potential absence? 

None of these options are anywhere near as attractive as Peters showing up and playing, but the fact is that those are the options that the Bills will have to deal with because All Pro left tackles aren't just available, especially this time of year. There will be some players that become available before the season starts, guys who would be upgrades to players like Chambers or Murphy, but none are going to be comparable to Peters. I guess what I'm trying to say is that that Bills can't replace Peters this year, they can only try to mask his absence.

Future
At this point the Bills are forced to assume Peters *might* not play this year, which is why they are trying out players at different positions. If Peters does indeed sit out the 2008 season it is a safe bet he could never play again, at least for the Bills.  If that were to be the case obviously the Bills will need to find his replacement, because let's face it - names like Chambers, Whittle, Walker, and Murphy are not long term answers.  Come draft time you will hear names like Ole Miss LT Micheal Oher, Alabama LT Andre Smith, Virginia LT Eugene Monroe, and LSU LT Ciron Black.

Conclusion
I'm finding it more and more difficult to believe that all of this is purely about money. If it was, I would think that Peters would be more out in the open, and be more vocal about wanting a new contract. The fact that nobody has heard from him, to me, says that something else could be at the heart of the matter.  It's time we talk about the long-term ramifications of his absence.  Maybe this is being a little too extreme - there is, after all, still plenty of time for Peters to show up and get his game regular-season ready - but maybe it's not.  The odds say it is, but never say never.  You can bet the Bills' front office executives are having these thoughts, even if they're only in the backs of their minds.

Maybe Marshall Faulk is a lot smarter then we've all given him cedit for.

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Will Jason Peters play for the Bills this year?
Please God yes
286 votes
No I don't think he will
76 votes

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Pay him please

I was really excited after the draft and the FA’s we picked hoping to see the BIlls have a good season, but our line which performed really well last year and was expected to grow and become a much better unit this year cannot afford to lose its best O lineman, I would hate too see us lose Peters, I agree 100% that what he is doing is selfish considering all that the Bills have done for him, but in the end it is a business as they say isnt it? Pay the man, please. I really hope that his silence does indeed confirm that he just wanted to avoid training camp, but will join the team to play out the season. There are so many questions with so little answers to this situation, and his agent doesnt seem to be shedding any light on this either, it seems like he was concentrating on getting Hardy signed first and now he is not commenting, so only Peters, his agent and God know whats going on. I really hope this ends well, because he is just waaaaayyyy too valuable to let go.

by Hassanali181 on Aug 3, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dockery

There is a good quote from Dockery about it. Something like he spoke to Peters and Peters said to keep the guys going until he gets back and he is excited to get back. I dont think this is a motivation issue like Mike Williams.

by Berg79 on Aug 3, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

``Nobody has any idea where he is or why he isn't at camp.''

This assumption, though certainly understandable given what management has communicated to us, their paying customers, is clearly faulty.
Isn’t it more reasonable to assume that someone in the Bills organization (I’m not talking Brandon, but one of his minions) has reached out to Peters, called him, emailed him, even visited him? And not just once, but several times? At the very least, they’ve most certainly talked with his agent to see what’s up. The Bills have invested millions in this player, the entire offense depends on him, and ``nobody has any idea where he is?’’ It just doesn’t pass the smell test.
The Bills are extremely discreet when it comes to dealing with players. How many of us knew that Marcus Stroud was headed to western New York, or Kawika Mitchell? They don’t want to negotiate contracts in the press. That’s fine. This is different.
Management knows exactly where he is, they’ve got a pretty good idea why he’s not in Pittsford, and they are spinning the media coverage as best they can to paint him as the bad guy, rather than face the wrath of fans, players, coaches, and everybody else in the league who are coming around to the idea that the Bills either cheap, power-hungry, or at best short-sighted. Maybe all three.
I do agree with the statement that there is no replacing Peters this year. Guess what? There’s no replacing him next year either. You’re not going to pick up a Pro Bowl left tackle on waivers, and no rookie drafted in spring 2009 is going to get that good that fast.
It appears Bills management is attempting to make a statement here, that they are in control and will not submit to a player’s unreasonable demands.
But I fear there is another message being sent: We don’t care about winning.

by Defensewinsgames on Aug 3, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You’re making an assumption there, too, though, in saying that someone must have talked to him, or his agent must know something. It’s just as likely either way in my book.

by Brian Galliford on Aug 3, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

And thats the point, DWG is assuming that somebody has talked to him, but how do we know that?

Devin Hester was holding out for more money, and even though he wasn’t in camp, he was around and everyone knew where he was and what he wanted. If Peters wants more money where is he?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Aug 3, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn’t Hester show up for training camp?

by kaisertown on Aug 3, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

but he means prior to that. Hester had made his intentions known and talked about a new deal. Peters has been silent and nobody has any idea what’s going through his mind. That’s where the concern and intrigue lies.

~K

by Kurupt on Aug 3, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good teams are deep

enough to handle this situation. This has been said before, but think of it like a season ending injury. If Peters’ absence is enough to completely kill the Bills season, then they are not a very good team to begin with. Granted LTs are harder to replace, but it shouldn’t be the end of the season.

by Joe P. on Aug 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this also, I don’t think that Peters not being there is a season ender. It hurts but doesn’t kill.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Aug 3, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it hurts a lot

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 3, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It hurts a ton

I think not having Peters would kill our season, at least on O. We are heavily dependent on him, especially as Edwards tries to progress and we build a strong running game. Losing him and replacing him with Walker at LT and Chambers at RT is going to have disastrous results at times.

~K

by Kurupt on Aug 3, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea

I see a Peters absence keeping us out of the playoffs. Lets face it, to make the playoffs we need all the talent and effort this team can muster in a tough AFC. We need our LT.

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 3, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's bad, very bad.

Possibly our best offfensive player, maybe #2 after Lynch. His absence makes Trent vulnerable on his blind side, possibly to injuries from a lot of sacks. It hurts a ton.

by Defensewinsgames on Aug 4, 2008 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the most part, yes

but not at premium positions like LT or QB. Not many teams would be able to replace their starter and have similar success at those positions. We saw the Rams O crumble with Pace’s absence last year. What happens to the Pats or Colts if Brady or Peyton go down for the year? I doubt they have much success. Good teams are able to overcome injuries at positions like DB, LB and WR, but it is MUCH harder to succeed after a Pro Bowl stud goes down at LT or QB….

~K

by Kurupt on Aug 3, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you actually comparing LT to QB?

While I agree that LT is important and hard to replace, if the Bills could have any one player would you take Pace or Peyton? IMO, it is much easier to give help to an LT than a QB.

by Joe P. on Aug 3, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

I’m just saying that those are probably the 2 positions on O where losing a proven stud can derail the rest of the Offense. Of course, I’d take Peyton over any LT, but that’s not what I was trying to say…

~K

by Kurupt on Aug 3, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

Fair enough. I agree that the loss of some ProBowl players would hurt more than others. Make no mistake, I want Peters back ASAP. But, if he is set on playing these childish games then we have to move on as if he is not going to play this year. That may mean giving help to whoever is the LT.

by Joe P. on Aug 3, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't panic... Yet...

As I posted on Brian’s Dock thread… It is possible that Peters has realized, after last season, he’s only human, and could be injured…. Let’s just hope, since there is apparently no contact with OBD, that he’s just trying to stay healthy, and maximize his long term dollar potential…

by Cinga on Aug 3, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he'll be back

There are other holdouts too like Terrell Suggs. I still think Peters is there by Week 1

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 3, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

but with the other holdouts, there has at least been communication (at least known communication) between the player and FO. Steven Jackson has spoken out and I’m pretty sure Suggs has. Peters has been silent, mysterious and hard to locate, all of which is a little bit more concerning to me….Let’s hope it’s nothing to get too alarmed about and he shows up in the next couple of weeks….

~K

by Kurupt on Aug 3, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea

and after reading Geronimos camp report I felt the faintest pang of panic. If the O-Line is learning new calls and schemes then it only makes the Peters deadline for getting back shorter. For now, I’m remaining optimistic but that is not what I wanted to hear. Come on Jason….

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Aug 3, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How true is this.....

“On July 25, the NFL Network’s Adam Schefter reported Jason Peters would not report to the Bills’ training camp at Saint John Fisher College in Pittsford, N.Y. Schefter also said Peters was willing to sit out the entire season to get a new and improved contract.”

I really don’t remember hearing that before. i don’t believe it, not that it isn’t true, but because there has been no dialogue between Peters and anyone. Has anyone seen that comment before?

LINK

~K

by Kurupt on Aug 3, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Somewhat

When I checked a few sources, several of them said that Schefter reported that on the 25th, but it was fairly vague about whether he actually talked to Peters or his agents. There were quotes like: “Just as Hester is hinting at a season-long holdout, Peters is contemplating the same.”

Dr. Z has a few more things to say about the contract dispute:

“If they’ll just get in touch …” he says, which is logical but not everyone’s negotiating strategy.

by Krenn on Aug 4, 2008 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what is Peters doing in all his spare time

Hanging out with Ricky Williams? (Don’t inhale, Jason.)

What’s with the silent treatment? Does he have something to hide? Or is this just his personality?

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Aug 4, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sireric - please expand more on this:

“The fact that nobody has heard from him, to me, says that something else could be at the heart of the matter.”

Am I correctly inferring from this quote, and it’s just poor speculation at best, that you might think he has some other kind of beef with the Bills?

by krytime on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What I mean is that, every other player who wants a new contract is very vocal about, either personal or through his agent. Peters silence seems strange to me and could point to something else alltogether. But that is complete speculation on my part.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Aug 4, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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