Bills/Redskins: Hogs Haven's Take
With the Buffalo Bills' 2008 pre-season opener less than three days away, today we're honored to be joined by Skin Patrol of Hogs Haven to talk about the upcoming matchup between his Washington Redskins and our Buffalo Bills. Sure, it's just a pre-season game, but that doesn't stop me from having to pull out the bleep button for a jacked up Skin Patrol.
Washington has had one of the more intriguing off-seasons of any NFL team, so we decided to dive right into the hot-button topics surrounding the 'Skins as they look for a second straight playoff berth. And if you're looking for the reciprocal interview that I did with SP, look no further - you can find it right here.
Without further ado, here's the interview (my questions in bold, his answers... not):
Is there a QB competition brewing in Washington between Jason Campbell and Todd Collins, or has Campbell been handed the job?
HH: As thrilled as I was to see Collins come in last year and perform so well to carry us into the playoffs, his real strength was knowing the Al Saunders offense. Sans Al Saunders, Todd Collins really loses a lot of his edge (or relative edge) to Jason Campbell. To answer your question, I doubted whether there was really a controversy last year and that would be even more true today given that Collins' mentor has since left for St. Louiser pastures. Coach Zorn has said on a number of occasions that the job belongs to The Mustache and I don't see him lightly flip-flopping. Having said all that, if JC doesn't improve substantially on his numbers from the last two years (which he will) and the team takes a nose dive as a result, anything is possible. As of this moment, though, 'tis no controversy.
What were your reactions to Colt Brennan's wildly successful NFL pre-season debut? I'm sure visions of Dan Marino were popping into your head.
HH: My reaction was HELL TO THE MUTHA [edited by Rumblings] YEAAAAYAAA. That's pretty much how things went down. I'm a big Texas Tech Red Raiders fan so I hate hearing the "system quarterback" claim ad nauseum leveled at successful collegiate quarterbacks. Colt Brennan put up sick numbers at Hawaii and, granting the very reasonable points regarding his easy schedule and system passing tendencies, proved, if nothing else, that he was an incredibly accurate passer. We saw a bit of that on Sunday; some of the completions he made were simply artistic, especially that one into traffic that sailed just over the safety's hands. The jury is still out whether Jim Zorn will be a successful head coach, but I think his record developing quarterbacks is well beyond reproach at this point, and Brennan will improve under that tutelage. Brennan certainly looked, at least briefly, like an NFL quality quarterback. You asked me about controversies... I've got at least one reader who is already claiming Colt Brennan as a legitimate challenge to the starting job by the year's end. He is, after all, the only QB on the roster that is really a Jim Zorn guy (Campbell drafted by Joe Gibbs, Collins is an Al Saunders guy, who knows about Derek Devine).
Which of the Redskins' three rookie offensive threats do you expect to have the biggest impact: Devin Thomas, Fred Davis or Malcolm Kelly?
HH: Had you asked me that yesterday I'd have probably said Malcolm Kelly because I would've been inclined to go with a receiver and Devin Thomas is more injured. Also, Fred Davis has that whole playing behind Chris Cooley thing working against him. Today, though, comes news that both Kelly and Thomas showed up to training camp soft (more on that here; I'll probably write about it later this week as well). The word is they couldn't handle TC because they weren't properly conditioned coming into camp, which is troublesome. Strange how that works out, since it was sleepy head Fred Davis who was getting all the work-ethic related mini-camp criticism. Answer: I have to go with Fred Davis at this point. I think the team is going to really utilize the two TE set to perfection. Davis' impact won't only be receptions (which he'll get) but also blocking, which he'll be in a much better position to do than either Kelly or Thomas. It's too soon to make confident predictions but, based on the limited data available, Fred Davis looks to have a bigger impact in '08 than either Kelly or Thomas. Because I have so much invested in the latter two emotionally -- the Redskins need, need, need reliable 2nd and 3rd receivers to emerge from this draft class -- I hope I'm wrong.
The Redskins went through a pretty interesting hiring process this off-season by hiring Jim Zorn as the offensive coordinator, entertaining the idea of a head coach, and then just promoting Zorn to head coach. What are your impressions of Zorn to date?
HH: He's a very entertaining guy. His quotes are funny and the players seem to really enjoy him. He just brings an entirely new energy (cliche alert) to the team that was somewhat lacking under Coach Gibbs, who is more of a stoic coach. Frankly, a coach's personality is really unimportant to me as are other esoteric minutiae. My opinion of Jim Zorn is high right now because he's given me many reasons to praise him in the preseason and none to really criticize him. However, the way I feel about him now will be tempered ultimately by what happens with W's and L's. He might be the greatest, neatest guy on the planet but if we're 0-16 next year, so what? As far as predictions go, I think the Redskins have a roster capable of making the playoffs and I think Zorn comes from a coaching tree that produces good offenses. We have enough coaching continuity on defense where I'm confident this is still a top 10 unit (defensively) and probably won't be the reason we fail. My impression of Zorn is that he's a guy who understands offense, particularly the quarterback position, and that the Redskins will benefit from that knowledge. I'm very excited for our upcoming season.
As a Bills fan, I'd like to, through your community, personally thank your franchise for taking Jason Taylor out of our division. What type of impact do you expect him to have in the NFC East, the toughest division in the NFC?
HH: I think it was a division rival that really demonstrated the importance of a pass rush. I don't know if anyone gave the Giants a serious chance against the Patriots in the last Super Bowl, but the strength of that front four proved to be the greatest equalizer in football. The Patriots were, top to bottom, a far superior team. But if you can rush the opposing passer and take them off their game plan (and generate some sacks -> turnover) then all the offensive weapons in the world really won't save you. Whenever I'm asked what is, in my opinion, the most important position on a football team, I quickly answer: defensive line. Jason Taylor has been one of the best at that position for much of the last decade, and I hope he continues at least some non-trivial amount of that success in Washington. I think he's at least as good, today, as Phillip Daniels is, so I have to think the defensive line will perform as well in 2008 as it did in 2007. Andre Carter is a 10+ sack guy on the other side, and now he'll be dealing with even fewer double teams. Last year a guy you've probably not heard much about, Chris Wilson, was really coming on fire on (now Taylor's) side and I have to believe that was because of all the attention Carter was getting elsewhere, as was Cornelius Griffin. Jason Taylor is going to have many opportunities to rush the opposing passer -- this is a passing division in many ways -- and he'll get to do so one-on-one frequently enough to have a huge impact. I anticipate 10 sacks.
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We'll have much more on the Bills/Redskins matchup over the next few days.
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Wow
Skin Patrol sounds like a real kool-aid drinkin homer, and then he makes some pretty coherent points.
One thing I think that hurts the Redskins offense every season is how overrated and injury-proned Clinton Portis is. Ever since leaving Denver he has been… well, average… as most of the RB are that they let go.
"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."
by ForeignArrow on Aug 7, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree on Portis. I think Mike Shanahan could find a way for me to rush for over 1,000 yards for the Broncos.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Aug 7, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Skins draft
The fact that Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, and Fred Davis have all had some injury/dedication issues already doesn’t escape me. I sure wish Buffalo would have proactively tried to improve their skill position talent last season, but the fact that those three players all seem headed in the wrong direction after the earliest of reports makes me feel a little better that we didn’t nab any of them (although, McKelvin, Hardy, and especially Ellis haven’t exactly sent Pittsford on fire so far)...anyone hear anything on my boy, Limas Sweed? I still think he would have looked great in a Bills uniform.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 7, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Concerned about Ellis, in particular
He didn’t come into the NFL with the greatest work ethic reputation to begin with. Now he’s, what, working with the 3’s? We need better than that from a 3rd round pick. If you’re the Bills, every single draft pick is important.
by Defensewinsgames on Aug 7, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ellis had character concerns, but I don’t recall any of them being work ethic related. He was arrested in 2006 and charged with obstruction and resisting. He was known as an undisciplined player after a handful of costly penalties. His motor comes and goes. On one series he will be relentless and all over the field and then the next series he will be a ghost. He has torn the labrum in his right arm twice. Ellis had plenty of concerns coming out of college, but I don’t think work ethic was one of them.
I just realized I havn’t really comented on Ellis or any of the rookies in general in awhile. I think that is because my opinion of these guys hasn’t changed much since the draft. Here is my take on Chris Ellis as a player and what we have heard and havn’t heard so far.
To summarize, I’m not worried about Ellis. The Bills took him in third round because of his overall athleticism. He is fluid while changing direction and has a quick first step. Those are the kind of things that just don’t disappear when a player turns pro. And that is why I’m not worried. Every scouting report noted that he has natural stength and a great frame that he should be able to add bulk to. The same scouting reports then pointed out that he needs to fill out that frame and get stronger. Couple that with his limited repotriore of pass rushing moves and you get a player who will need some time to make a big impact.
Camp has barely started and we shouldn’t be discouraged by Ellis’ slow start. I’m going to assume that the team doesn’t run too many third down and long drills where the DEs can really pin their ears back and get to the QB. The first few weeks of camp is all about getting the basics down, learning the playbook and developing chemistry. When actual game situations start happening I still think Ellis can be an effective situational rusher based on his athleticism alone. He has natural run-stuffing abilities too, but don’t expect him to become anything that even resembles an every down player for a couple of seasons.
by kaisertown on Aug 7, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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