Bills at Redskins: Open Game Thread
by Kurupt
on Aug 9, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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Buffalo Bills @ Washington Redskins
Final Score: Redskins 17, Bills 14
Hogs Haven Interview :: What to Watch For
Q4, 0:00: That's all she wrote. Turnovers and poor run defense on Buffalo's third-teamers' part kept the score consistent throughout much of the second half. 'Skins win the pre-seaso opener by 3. First impressions coming up tomorrow morning; Film Session early this week (definitely before the Steelers game). Thanks to everyone who joined us for this game thread!
Q3, 10:59: Dwayne Wright fumbles the ball; Washington's recovery leads to a 45-yard field goal by Shaun Suisham. Redskins re-take the lead, 17-14.
Q2, 1:11: An Ashton Youboty interception on Todd Collins sets up Buffalo's first touchdown of the pre-season, a touchdown reception for rookie WR James Hardy from J.P. Losman. Two-point conversion is good (Losman to Justin Jenkins), and we've got ourselves a tied ballgame.
Q2, 3:02: J.P. Losman drives the Bills down the field - utilizing Fred Jackson very nicely out of the backfield as a receiver - but once again, the drive stalls deep and they settle for a short Lindell field goal. Buffalo's scored on five straight field goals dating back to last season's Philly finale.
Q2, 9:49: Led by Todd Collins, the Redskins' offense continues to shred a Bills defense sporting a lot of key players. Ladell Betts takes the screen pass to the house; Redskins 14, Bills 3.
Q1, 0:45: Washington has responded with a 53-yard drive capped by a 1-yard touchdown run by Clinton Portis. Buffalo's top defensive unit (sans A. Schobel, M. Stroud, T. McGee) was shredded by Jason Campbell and some timely draw plays. Redskins 7, Bills 3.
Q1, 11:28: Washington fumbles the opening kickoff, and it's recovered by Rian Lindell. Bills drive stalls in the red zone, but Lindell nails a short field goal to give the Bills an early lead. (Pass protection for Edwards looks OK; run blocking, not so much.)
Welcome to the official pre-season kickoff of the 2008 Buffalo Bills season! This is your open game thread for tonight's matchup between the Buffalo Bills and the Washington Redskins. Tonight, we'll get our first look at a re-tooled Bills roster - sans Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters - in a live setting for the first time.
This is your one-stop shop for discussions during tonight's game. We'll be breaking down/analyzing events as they happen live, so if you don't yet have one, create an SB Nation account and join us in the comments thread! (Note: we will create a new thread for overflow comments if/when necessary.)
Bills inactives: WR Josh Reed, OT Jason Peters, DE Copeland Bryan, LB Angelo Crowell, SS Donte Whitner
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Haha, well, now I know who was tinkering with this thread months ago… nice work on this post, Kurupt. ;)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 5:12 PM EDT 0 recs
Just got in....
Whew!!! Been helpin’ someone move, got in just in time, got the DVR set, cracked a cold one, and I’m ready for some Bills Football!!!!
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 6:57 PM EDT 0 recs
I thought ...
NFL net was unbiased.. This crap is on Redskins network!!!
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 7:02 PM EDT 0 recs
NFL Network
They usually alternate the feed after halftime and we’ll get the Bills broadcast then. The NFL Network is not covering the game (they are for the Colts preseason tilt in two weeks); they’re just broadcasting the local broadcast feeds.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
Aug 9, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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Ha! Lindell recovers the fumbled opening kickoff! Fumble caused by the one, the only, John DiGiorgio…
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:09 PM EDT 0 recs
O-Line struggling to get a push… no-huddle… and they’re still using oodles of movement pre-snap.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah, Brownie reported that earlier today. Roscoe’s been on the field a few times already too…
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Nice 18-yarder on 3rd and 11 from Trent to Roscoe for a first down… :)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:12 PM EDT 0 recs
Super Bowl XLIII
Seahawks (-5) Bills
Tease the Bills up to plus 11 and take the under.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Comments like this make me wish I understood betting lines.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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More great-looking kick coverage by DiGiorgio, Wendling and Jenkins. Buffalo is officially a ST factory.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Ugh… camera work is terrible in the pre-season. Poz just made a nice tackle on Portis, and we didn’t even see it…
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:21 PM EDT 0 recs
We’ve got an Ashton Youboty sighting at 9:30 of the first quarter!
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:22 PM EDT 0 recs
James
I was watching James cover Randle El in the slot on the first 3rd down and he was all over him. I think I’m buying this signing more and more as his size is an asset.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Liked the looks of him too. We saw five corners on that possession… pretty cool.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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The completions will come. I’m worried about the O-Line penalties. Oh where, oh where is Jason Peters…
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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Had to take
the dog out… Missed the defense… Anything good??
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 7:30 PM EDT 0 recs
Hardy
Hardy’s a monster. He always looked like a man amongst boys in college, but I didn’t know if it would translate to the pros, but he still looks like a beast physically. He relied so much on his advantage in athleticism in college that i think he’s going to take awhile to learn how to beat his opponents traditionally with timing running better routes.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:36 PM EDT 0 recs
First he needs to know which route he’s running. He and Edwards weren’t in the same offensive scheme on that throw in the red zone…
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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didn't look fluent...
on 3rd down on the last drive either. He really looks like he wants to rely on just being stronger than everyone else.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on
Aug 9, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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Good call
by Jaroun… Can’t be pass interference if the ball is tipped
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 7:37 PM EDT 0 recs
Mitchell
Poor job by Mitchell on disrupting Randle El
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Clinton Portis just did awful, disgusting things to Ko Simpson in blitz pickup.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Boy… Buffalo may have beefed up their run defense, but Jason Campbell (with a little help from the draw play) is shredding them.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Let's wait
for review… I’m havin’ a hard time with only one hold call against the Skins so far…. Watching some of our d literally spun around by o linemen
by Cinga on
Aug 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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Ellison
Keith Ellison has made plays against the 1st team. Don’t write him off yet. He can be useful in certain packages.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT 0 recs
But...
it bothers me they’ve moved the ball between the tackles…. 7-3 Skins
by Cinga on
Aug 9, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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Be wary of ScroogeTV, which some people have been using to watch the game. It made me download something to watch the game today (it didnt yesterday) and even though I uninstalled it, it is still causing all my google searches to be flagged as botspam. So something is not quite right there.
But the short version of this story is, more updates here please!
by Thronsen on Aug 9, 2008 7:59 PM EDT 0 recs
BTW....
I know it ain’t live, but you can get live stat updates @
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29792&season=2008&displayPage=tab_gamecenter
by Cinga on
Aug 9, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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Great thanks alot for that. Thats what I am ‘watching’ now. Have had such a nightmare today trying to find any sort of info.
by Thronsen on
Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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Stats....
Edwards ended 1-5 for 18 yds… JP in… 1-1, 7; but 3 and out….
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 8:02 PM EDT 0 recs
One series for Edwards?
Really wish we would play the starters more throughout the team. We always seem so unprepared when the season starts.
by Thronsen on
Aug 9, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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It was actually two series for Edwards. 1 for Lynch.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
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No...
He played almost the whole first quarter… But as Brian stated, we looked about lost out there….
by Cinga on
Aug 9, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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3rd down defense
On that last 3rd down they had Spencer Johnson and Denney on the ends and they got no pressure whatsoever. I HATE Bill Kollar’s favorite technique of rushing from three yards outside the pocket in a circular route to the QB…Great- the Sunday Night game against New England* is back in my head now.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 8:05 PM EDT 0 recs
You don’t think the lack of pressure had more to do with the players? Because I do. Johnson and Jason Jefferson are playing a lot of end right now.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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Laptop's bout to die
Go Bills. I’m not impressed, but it’s still good seeing them out there…can’t wait for September…Brian, I don’t think Bruce Smith and Reggie White on the ends could get to the QB with the rushing technique the Bills use on some of their 3rd and long plays. That’s more on Kollar/Fewell. Take it easy, all- better times ahead.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 8:09 PM EDT 0 recs
Something in the water tonight. I have 3 computers, and 2 have picked tonight to die on me. Im on the 3rd, and its infected with some crap spyware that I got trying to get a stream of the game.
by Thronsen on
Aug 9, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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Can't help now....
But check back before season starts… Won’t “post” it, but found a couple places that may help then…
by Cinga on
Aug 9, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
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Well that first quarter looked just like last season
Inept offense, with a lot of confusion
Defense that couldn’t get off the field on 3rd downs
No pass rush
Gift turnover that only results in 3
Poor tackling
Yikes! I knew it would be a bit of a struggle, but I didn’t expect it to be a carbon copy of last year. We need to see gradual improvement over the next 3 games, or week 1 could be ugly.
We need Jason Peters SO BADLY. That first series was a good example. Run game wasn’t great, penalty on Chambers, etc…
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:12 PM EDT 0 recs
I was a little surprised that the pass blocking was better than the run blocking…
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
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Eh
Not sure the Redskins were doing stunts or anything. I did see Walker neutralize Jason Taylor on one rush though.
I did NOT like the pre snap movement nor the useless short passes (to Schouman for one)....
Good throw to Roscoe though
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 9, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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Concurred on the pre-snap movement. I really don’t see the benefit of that, especially when you have wideouts jumping offsides.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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I didn't think it would be a problem
and it still might not be. It will take time to get it all down though, and that’s what I’d worry about. With Hardy still learning, he’s bound to be confused more often than not.
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 9, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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I hadn’t even realized I had played with this thread before. haha
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah, apparently you did. I was confused for a few minutes there. :)
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
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McKelvin looked good on that return. Nice speed and acceleration. Not sure about his vision yet though….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT 0 recs
I want to see him get a punt. Too bad Buffalo’s defense has been so terrible.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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Good old JP
Throwing long passes off his back foot for a completion. Some things never change. Roscoe is going to be great for us this year if used properly….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT 0 recs
Heck...
I’ve been sorta impressed with his reads so far, and willingness to dump it off short… Like we expected out of Trent…
by Cinga on
Aug 9, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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Second-team defense. Don’t get too excited. That slant to Parrish on third and goal was a terrible throw.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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THat wasn't a terrible throw
a bit high, but catchable. It would have been much better had he hit him in the chest though….
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 9, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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You have to give your receiver options with the throw, especially when it’s Parrish, and especially when there’s that much real estate involved. A low throw there is a touchdown, but as usual, Losman’s accuracy is spotty in hard short throws.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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I know, I know
but hey, it was catchable by Losman standards….
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Hardy with a drop
Wide open….ugh. Hope it’s just jitters. Pass was high though, couldn’t tell if it was behind him…
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT 0 recs
You playing catch-up, or watching on a large delay?
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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GF's b-day today
After spending all day out and about, I’m just getting around to using the computer now. I must be on a bit behind on NFL N right now.
EDIT: :Yup, haha. I didn’t realize I hadn’t fast forwarded all the way yet…..
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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jackson looks good and so does roscoe. hardy has honestly been making me angry. i hope he playes better later on as we get deeper into the preseason. james looks good. possibly the only thing other than poz about or d. i wish that edwards played a little longer… i missed everything that he did. all 5 passes i mean. Oh and Marshawn looked beast. i only saw one run wit him and the whole team had to take him down and he still wouldnt go. beast.
by billsstein on Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT 0 recs
Dink and dunk...
Was Losman’s pass to Parrish the only one longer than about 7 yards so far?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Defense just horrible tonight
It seems Jefferson is getting a lot of snaps. Protecting Stroud maybe?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT 0 recs
Definitely the case. Stroud was out after the first series, but the Bills maintained their four-man rotation. So it’s Williams/McCargo/Johnson/Jefferson.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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Plays like that won't help Corner move up the depth chart
Overshot the WR on that last play…
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:29 PM EDT 0 recs
Especially with how quickly Youboty was into the game (for McGee). He’s looked solid. I’d like to see him inside…
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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Did McGee play?
I thought I saw Youboty almost immediately though.
Corner was in on the first series too….
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 9, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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He played the first series as well. Schobel, Stroud and McGee all came out after that first series.
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Play before it was good though
even the back ups love allowing 3rd down conversions!!
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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Nice INT
But Youboty is going to get hammered for that lateral
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT 0 recs
Why? He’s showing that he’s a team player. :)
by Brian Galliford on
Aug 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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and possibly turning the ball right back over if Corner has hands of stone
by Ron From NM on
Aug 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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Not a terrible play
He had to have known there were no SKins around besides the tackler….
~K
by Kurupt on
Aug 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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