Bills at Redskins: Open Game Thread
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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Buffalo Bills at Washington Redskins, Aug 9, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
Final Score: Redskins 17, Bills 14
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Q4, 0:00: That's all she wrote. Turnovers and poor run defense on Buffalo's third-teamers' part kept the score consistent throughout much of the second half. 'Skins win the pre-seaso opener by 3. First impressions coming up tomorrow morning; Film Session early this week (definitely before the Steelers game). Thanks to everyone who joined us for this game thread!
Q3, 10:59: Dwayne Wright fumbles the ball; Washington's recovery leads to a 45-yard field goal by Shaun Suisham. Redskins re-take the lead, 17-14.
Q2, 1:11: An Ashton Youboty interception on Todd Collins sets up Buffalo's first touchdown of the pre-season, a touchdown reception for rookie WR James Hardy from J.P. Losman. Two-point conversion is good (Losman to Justin Jenkins), and we've got ourselves a tied ballgame.
Q2, 3:02: J.P. Losman drives the Bills down the field - utilizing Fred Jackson very nicely out of the backfield as a receiver - but once again, the drive stalls deep and they settle for a short Lindell field goal. Buffalo's scored on five straight field goals dating back to last season's Philly finale.
Q2, 9:49: Led by Todd Collins, the Redskins' offense continues to shred a Bills defense sporting a lot of key players. Ladell Betts takes the screen pass to the house; Redskins 14, Bills 3.
Q1, 0:45: Washington has responded with a 53-yard drive capped by a 1-yard touchdown run by Clinton Portis. Buffalo's top defensive unit (sans A. Schobel, M. Stroud, T. McGee) was shredded by Jason Campbell and some timely draw plays. Redskins 7, Bills 3.
Q1, 11:28: Washington fumbles the opening kickoff, and it's recovered by Rian Lindell. Bills drive stalls in the red zone, but Lindell nails a short field goal to give the Bills an early lead. (Pass protection for Edwards looks OK; run blocking, not so much.)
Welcome to the official pre-season kickoff of the 2008 Buffalo Bills season! This is your open game thread for tonight's matchup between the Buffalo Bills and the Washington Redskins. Tonight, we'll get our first look at a re-tooled Bills roster - sans Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters - in a live setting for the first time.
This is your one-stop shop for discussions during tonight's game. We'll be breaking down/analyzing events as they happen live, so if you don't yet have one, create an SB Nation account and join us in the comments thread! (Note: we will create a new thread for overflow comments if/when necessary.)
Bills inactives: WR Josh Reed, OT Jason Peters, DE Copeland Bryan, LB Angelo Crowell, SS Donte Whitner
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Haha, well, now I know who was tinkering with this thread months ago… nice work on this post, Kurupt. ;)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just got in....
Whew!!! Been helpin’ someone move, got in just in time, got the DVR set, cracked a cold one, and I’m ready for some Bills Football!!!!
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mmm… cold one…
I’ll be right back.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought ...
NFL net was unbiased.. This crap is on Redskins network!!!
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL Network
They usually alternate the feed after halftime and we’ll get the Bills broadcast then. The NFL Network is not covering the game (they are for the Colts preseason tilt in two weeks); they’re just broadcasting the local broadcast feeds.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! Lindell recovers the fumbled opening kickoff! Fumble caused by the one, the only, John DiGiorgio…
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love it!!!!
Fumble already!!!!
Thanks for the info SF…
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
O-Line struggling to get a push… no-huddle… and they’re still using oodles of movement pre-snap.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Brownie reported that earlier today. Roscoe’s been on the field a few times already too…
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice 18-yarder on 3rd and 11 from Trent to Roscoe for a first down… :)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Super Bowl XLIII
Seahawks (-5) Bills
Tease the Bills up to plus 11 and take the under.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Comments like this make me wish I understood betting lines.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More great-looking kick coverage by DiGiorgio, Wendling and Jenkins. Buffalo is officially a ST factory.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh… camera work is terrible in the pre-season. Poz just made a nice tackle on Portis, and we didn’t even see it…
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We’ve got an Ashton Youboty sighting at 9:30 of the first quarter!
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
James
I was watching James cover Randle El in the slot on the first 3rd down and he was all over him. I think I’m buying this signing more and more as his size is an asset.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Liked the looks of him too. We saw five corners on that possession… pretty cool.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darn it...
but your right… 1st pre though…
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The completions will come. I’m worried about the O-Line penalties. Oh where, oh where is Jason Peters…
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to take
the dog out… Missed the defense… Anything good??
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hardy
Hardy’s a monster. He always looked like a man amongst boys in college, but I didn’t know if it would translate to the pros, but he still looks like a beast physically. He relied so much on his advantage in athleticism in college that i think he’s going to take awhile to learn how to beat his opponents traditionally with timing running better routes.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First he needs to know which route he’s running. He and Edwards weren’t in the same offensive scheme on that throw in the red zone…
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't look fluent...
on 3rd down on the last drive either. He really looks like he wants to rely on just being stronger than everyone else.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call
by Jaroun… Can’t be pass interference if the ball is tipped
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell
Poor job by Mitchell on disrupting Randle El
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clinton Portis just did awful, disgusting things to Ko Simpson in blitz pickup.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boy… Buffalo may have beefed up their run defense, but Jason Campbell (with a little help from the draw play) is shredding them.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's wait
for review… I’m havin’ a hard time with only one hold call against the Skins so far…. Watching some of our d literally spun around by o linemen
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ellison
Keith Ellison has made plays against the 1st team. Don’t write him off yet. He can be useful in certain packages.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Be wary of ScroogeTV, which some people have been using to watch the game. It made me download something to watch the game today (it didnt yesterday) and even though I uninstalled it, it is still causing all my google searches to be flagged as botspam. So something is not quite right there.
But the short version of this story is, more updates here please!
by Thronsen on Aug 9, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW....
I know it ain’t live, but you can get live stat updates @
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29792&season=2008&displayPage=tab_gamecenter
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great thanks alot for that. Thats what I am ‘watching’ now. Have had such a nightmare today trying to find any sort of info.
by Thronsen on Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stats....
Edwards ended 1-5 for 18 yds… JP in… 1-1, 7; but 3 and out….
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One series for Edwards?
Really wish we would play the starters more throughout the team. We always seem so unprepared when the season starts.
by Thronsen on Aug 9, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was actually two series for Edwards. 1 for Lynch.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3rd down defense
On that last 3rd down they had Spencer Johnson and Denney on the ends and they got no pressure whatsoever. I HATE Bill Kollar’s favorite technique of rushing from three yards outside the pocket in a circular route to the QB…Great- the Sunday Night game against New England* is back in my head now.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You don’t think the lack of pressure had more to do with the players? Because I do. Johnson and Jason Jefferson are playing a lot of end right now.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laptop's bout to die
Go Bills. I’m not impressed, but it’s still good seeing them out there…can’t wait for September…Brian, I don’t think Bruce Smith and Reggie White on the ends could get to the QB with the rushing technique the Bills use on some of their 3rd and long plays. That’s more on Kollar/Fewell. Take it easy, all- better times ahead.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Something in the water tonight. I have 3 computers, and 2 have picked tonight to die on me. Im on the 3rd, and its infected with some crap spyware that I got trying to get a stream of the game.
by Thronsen on Aug 9, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't help now....
But check back before season starts… Won’t “post” it, but found a couple places that may help then…
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that first quarter looked just like last season
Inept offense, with a lot of confusion
Defense that couldn’t get off the field on 3rd downs
No pass rush
Gift turnover that only results in 3
Poor tackling
Yikes! I knew it would be a bit of a struggle, but I didn’t expect it to be a carbon copy of last year. We need to see gradual improvement over the next 3 games, or week 1 could be ugly.
We need Jason Peters SO BADLY. That first series was a good example. Run game wasn’t great, penalty on Chambers, etc…
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was a little surprised that the pass blocking was better than the run blocking…
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
Not sure the Redskins were doing stunts or anything. I did see Walker neutralize Jason Taylor on one rush though.
I did NOT like the pre snap movement nor the useless short passes (to Schouman for one)....
Good throw to Roscoe though
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concurred on the pre-snap movement. I really don’t see the benefit of that, especially when you have wideouts jumping offsides.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think it would be a problem
and it still might not be. It will take time to get it all down though, and that’s what I’d worry about. With Hardy still learning, he’s bound to be confused more often than not.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn’t even realized I had played with this thread before. haha
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, apparently you did. I was confused for a few minutes there. :)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McKelvin looked good on that return. Nice speed and acceleration. Not sure about his vision yet though….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to see him get a punt. Too bad Buffalo’s defense has been so terrible.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good old JP
Throwing long passes off his back foot for a completion. Some things never change. Roscoe is going to be great for us this year if used properly….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heck...
I’ve been sorta impressed with his reads so far, and willingness to dump it off short… Like we expected out of Trent…
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Second-team defense. Don’t get too excited. That slant to Parrish on third and goal was a terrible throw.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THat wasn't a terrible throw
a bit high, but catchable. It would have been much better had he hit him in the chest though….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to give your receiver options with the throw, especially when it’s Parrish, and especially when there’s that much real estate involved. A low throw there is a touchdown, but as usual, Losman’s accuracy is spotty in hard short throws.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I know
but hey, it was catchable by Losman standards….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy with a drop
Wide open….ugh. Hope it’s just jitters. Pass was high though, couldn’t tell if it was behind him…
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You playing catch-up, or watching on a large delay?
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GF's b-day today
After spending all day out and about, I’m just getting around to using the computer now. I must be on a bit behind on NFL N right now.
EDIT: :Yup, haha. I didn’t realize I hadn’t fast forwarded all the way yet…..
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jackson looks good and so does roscoe. hardy has honestly been making me angry. i hope he playes better later on as we get deeper into the preseason. james looks good. possibly the only thing other than poz about or d. i wish that edwards played a little longer… i missed everything that he did. all 5 passes i mean. Oh and Marshawn looked beast. i only saw one run wit him and the whole team had to take him down and he still wouldnt go. beast.
by billsstein on Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dink and dunk...
Was Losman’s pass to Parrish the only one longer than about 7 yards so far?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense just horrible tonight
It seems Jefferson is getting a lot of snaps. Protecting Stroud maybe?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely the case. Stroud was out after the first series, but the Bills maintained their four-man rotation. So it’s Williams/McCargo/Johnson/Jefferson.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plays like that won't help Corner move up the depth chart
Overshot the WR on that last play…
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Especially with how quickly Youboty was into the game (for McGee). He’s looked solid. I’d like to see him inside…
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did McGee play?
I thought I saw Youboty almost immediately though.
Corner was in on the first series too….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played the first series as well. Schobel, Stroud and McGee all came out after that first series.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play before it was good though
even the back ups love allowing 3rd down conversions!!
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice INT
But Youboty is going to get hammered for that lateral
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why? He’s showing that he’s a team player. :)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and possibly turning the ball right back over if Corner has hands of stone
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a terrible play
He had to have known there were no SKins around besides the tackler….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOOOO! Looking good, James Hardy!!
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beautiful play
wish it was Edwards though. Oh well, I’ll take the Hardy play any day. Love that potential.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great catch, even though Theisman whined about pushing off
I don’t think he did but I’ll have to see it again.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t. All he did was get his arms in position to catch. Theismann is an idiot.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to remember one thing
Theismann is drunk 95% percent of the time
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theisman whining about pushing off
Yes, Cinga….you can follow the game on NFL.com if you don’t have NFL network
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell is Joe Theismann?
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um....long time Redskins QB
Lawrence Taylor broke him years ago.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was really ugly
You could see his lower leg develop an extra joint…..Taylor, when later interviewed by Theisman and asked a stupid question responded by yelling, “I broke you, man!”
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure which injury was worse
Theismann’s or Napoleon McCallom. Both were absolutely hideous
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my attempt at a joke. Apparently, I need more beer.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had totally forgotten
how much I HATE him and Mike Patrick.
They are so stupid and clueless. On a deep fade to James Thrash early in the game, when Youboty had perfect coverage, they were blaming Thrash for the throw being 10 yards out of bounds. They tried saying that he needs to give the QB a better target, blah blah blah. Such morons. One of the smartest things ESPN has ever done….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwards v Losman tonight
Edwards 1 of 5 for 18
Losman 7 of 9 for 73 and 1 TD
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh I know
but someone is bound to say something about a potential Q.B.C….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It won't matter
Edwards is a short throw ball control Dick Jauron type of QB. Losman walked onto the field and promptly went deep. You won’t get far in your job if you don’t do it the way the boss wants it done.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty typical of the pre-season when you have a competent backup.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can make the case that Losman is playing scrubs instead of 1st teamers-and that the Skins are thin at safety-but it’s disappointing that Edwards didn’t do any better than he did.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it lagging for you? We were getting up to ~350 comments during the draft; we barely scratched 100. At some point during the second half, yes, there will probably be a second thread.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting a slight lag....nothing to worry about yet though
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine’s running all right. I’ll definitely let you know.
Also, there’s a lovely t-storm brewing in my neighborhood. If I suddenly disappear, you know why: I’ve lost power. Aside from the fact that I’d be real, real upset if that happens… K, would you mind taking up the reins if that happens?
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can do
and keep the storms away from me
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We already lost cable/Internet for about a minute, and the storm hadn’t even hit yet. It’s raging in full force now; this house is very fickle when it comes to storms and power.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Storms?
You can send them this way—we need the water. In fact, if you’re up to it how about trucking snow to us this winter?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like my Directv
Goes out when it starts raining hard.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theisman video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i_bJv_0z-k
I had forgotten the play was a flea flicker
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First half all-stars
Youboty
Parrish
Losman
Special Teams?
If Youboty keeps playing this well, I can’t see him getting cut. He’s really working hard and trying to prove his worth. I love it….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No stars for the defense as a whole
So far they’ve given up about 150 yards through the air and about 60 yards on the ground. Ugh.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take that ”?” off of Special Teams. Their coverage has been lights out.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lindell
His kickoffs have been deeper than usual and he had the good sense to remember that he was a kicker and just flop on that fumble at the beginning of the game.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do agree about Youboty, though
He’s having a pretty good game. I thought I saw him get beat on a couple of passes early but fairly solid otherwise…
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
but he was also 10 yards off the ball. I absolutely HATE when CB’s are played that far off the ball. Quick passes and slants are so easy to complete against that. 2 years ago when we still had Clements, we were getting creamed by having him and McGee 10 yards off the ball on every play. Midway through the year, they were moved into more bump and run coverage and the pass D really improved.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any one else???
think the Bills are showcasing Youboty??? for a possible trade???
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL Network, you jerk!
The 2nd half is about to start and we still have Theismann/Patrick. Where is Steve Tasker and Co.????
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe now when the Bills get a 30 yard gainer they won’t just interview Redskins and later mention that, by the way, Buffalo had a 30 yard pass completion. Maybe we’ll even get to see a replay of it!
I’ve got Steve Tasker, Kurupt. You have my sympathies…
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on NFL Network?
That’s really weird then….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tasker is the best color guy in the NFL
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many???
Skins injuries does this make so far???
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
Steve Johnson with his full name on the back
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why no St. Johnson then?
I guess S(ain)t Johnson would also look funny too…
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Third on the line, fourth overall (Hardy).
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesnt play enough to have tendencies…
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s fumbled a LOT of footballs on the practice field. Remember his fumble last season in the blowout at New England? Believe me when I say it’s a tendency.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last preseason too
That’s all I remember of him from last year’s preseason….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dwayne Wright stinks
I was going to comment that he looked pretty decent, but the guy can NEVER hold onto the ball. All last preseason, and I’ve seen some highlights of him in this camp with fumblitis. I just can’t see how this guy can be relied on….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that was a commercial tinged with homosexuality
Football players and folk music just don’t belong together…
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was a commercial with Jewel-like singing
And football players wandering through nature scenes….very weird
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They show it on NFL Network all the time
could be every commercial break.
I like that they have guys like Laurence Maroney leading their respective teams, haha.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Tiki Barber could be taught not to fumble anymore...
.... (though there was no hope of curing him of his whininess) why can’t they teach Wright to hold onto the ball?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wendling took a bad angle on that draw
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wendling just looks horribly awkward trying to do anything defensively. He’s a specialist, and that’s where his contributions end.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I am not sure I can see him ever contributing defensively. Heck of an athlete, not so sure about defensive football player….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
that usually happens when I talk crap about someone
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re now in charge of talking crap about Trent Edwards for the rest of the season. Go.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There will be plenty of time for that
but if he plays as crappy as he did tonight, we’re dead. He seems to love having passes tipped, anybody else notice that? I remember that last year too.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s got a quick release, but Ive always thought his release point was a touch low.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that can be killer
when you throw a ton of short passes.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks OK. He’d be real flustered if there was a pass rush.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corner just got beat pretty badly
luckily the throw was poor
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corner beat on that last play....just a bad pass
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dudes… I like me some John DiGiorgio.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Somewhat. Brennan held it too long to be sure, but DiGiorgio looked good on the blitz.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another great stop by Youboty
That had 1st down written all over it
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent blitz pickup by Xavier Omon there. Love to see that.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A TE pass down the seam!!!!!
18 yards for Anderson…
Nice to see Omon not give up on that play.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tight ends
gotta use tight ends, especially in red zone
by Bluebill on Aug 9, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The "back-up" TE's haven't looked too bad
Fine and Anderson making some plays.
I’m still surprised Schoumann started over Royal….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
royal is da man
I think he is stilled dinged
by Bluebill on Aug 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played some as well. I think you’re right; he’s the opening day starter. Schouman didn’t look great.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No schouman receptions...
Was he even in the game?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes he was. He dropped a pass from Edwards on a quick out. He was also double-covered on one play; Edwards tried to force it and was nearly picked.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those of you that have been to camp practices
Has Steve Johnson been getting reps behind guys like Huggins and Mayle? He’s been behind them today, only coming in for 3-WR sets.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They mix him in a lot. Generally he runs with, not behind, them.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here I thought he was getting some first team reps this week
maybe he was…..
I still like him more than any of those other guys, a lot more. He’s got very good potential….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
S. Johnson
I hope he is a keeper. I am soooo tired of Josh Reed. he couldnt play on another NFL team. when you play the slot, ya gotta be big or fast and he is niether. I remember 2 years ago , they were gonna cut him.
by Bluebill on Aug 9, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another really nice blitz pickup by Omon… he looks real sturdy.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamdan keeps going deep
He apparently didn’t get the memo
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Explains his missing TPS reports.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lindell shanked that field goal pretty good. Curious to know who the snapper was… that was a poor snap.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still
after 2 pretty darn good seasons, I will never have confidence in Lindell. I don’t know what it is about him, but I can’t trust him out there….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have confidence in him. He’ll tie this game tonight if he gets the chance.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh My God
Mike Patrick: “They’ve heard wide left a lot in Buffalo history”
Are you kidding me? And these clueless idiots continue their useless drivel. WHY did I not get switched to the Bills announcers?
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's pretty obvious that God hates you.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say so
atleast I’ve avoided the storms
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buffalo shut down Brennan
They got ripped by Collins and Campbell
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Better return by Leodis. He looks slick out there!
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why
McKelvin was such a good punt returner. Good, quick moves and boom, there he goes. I don’t know why he didn’t cut that to the right sideline though….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And there’s Omon’s fumble. Ugly…........
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
Can’t these guys hold on to the ball? Omon just blew his shot to move ahead of Wright
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bruce Hall, here’s your chance.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Re-charged laptop battery, I take it?
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s an interesting wrinkle… Kennard Cox is currently playing free safety.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sloppy tackling….Youboty had to take him down 15 yards downfield….Cox just blew the tackle
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah- no backup battery
here’s my roster question after watching this game- is it possible that the Bills could keep Corner on the practice squad without some other team stealing him? I think Youboty has a future in this league and six corners seems excessive, but 4th rounders rarely get cut.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see that happening. Six corners or cut Youboty; I think Corner stays no matter what.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If his whiffed tackle is any indication....
....cox wouldn’t be claimed by anyone
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've wondered the same thing
he has been good and bad tonight, but has played pretty well in camp thus far from all indications.
I’d hate to cut either guy, but if the staff feels Corner has a real shot as the PS, that may be the way to go. I’d still go with 6 CB’s though. Corner can be inactive each week without a problem. Youboty just looks more game-ready and able to play in week 1. With McKelvin still learning, I’d much rather have Youboty available….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
practice squad
Do teams have the ability to activate a practice suadder BEFORE another teams signs him to the active roster? I distinctly remember the Lions trying to sign Jay Riemersma off the Bills practice squad in ‘96 and the Bills activated him before they lostb him…I certainly think Youboty is a valuable player and I buy his hard luck story to start his career- I know this will never happen, but if I was to cut any of them, I’d cut Greer- I think he’s the least valuable long term.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
I have no idea. I would hope that if a guy is on one team’s PS, they would have the option to sign him ahead of another team, but I truly have no clue. I know if another team wants to sign someone off another teams’ PS, they have to sign that guy to their active roster for the remainder of the season, so that is somewhat of an impetus.
Greer does have the least long term value, along with James. Greer is probably not a Bill in 2009, IMO, no matter how well he plays this year. I think McGee is a much better player, and with guys like McKelvin, Corner and/or Youboty all coming along, who knows if he’ll be necessary then…
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to go...
for a minute… A prospective sister in law, just cheered for the Skins on that fumble… My bro and I took care of that “problem” real quick… She’s noe sitting in yard, waiting for the game to end…...
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bills defensive line scrubs are just awful
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McKelvin has been in pretty much the entire game
Special teams and defense…..he’s getting a lot of snaps. Maybe the coaches are trying to get him ready to take the #3 or even #2 slot sooner than we think?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My guess is that they’re just getting him reps to catch him up.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine
kid needs all the reps he can get. He isn’t going to get those standing on the sidelines….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's had a good game
and probably more playing time than anyone else… Good showing though
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a pretty smart player too
I love the guys who try ripping the ball out of ball carriers’ arms when the guy is basically stopped. I don’t understand why more guys don’t do that.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only remeber James' name being mentioned once
Did he leave really early?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was on the field not five plays ago.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he’s just had really good coverage?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
152 rushing yards given up
Sounds distressingly like last year
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s all been on draws – they can’t stop the draw play. Linebackers and safeties need to learn to take on, rather than duck, blockers. That’s been their biggest issue. Tackling has been poor as well.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets hope the skins having a game in hand was the difference here.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of it is that their scrubs are better than our scrubs. I’m just worried that without Stroud the defense just won’t be any better than last year.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
and I’m pretty sure we’d be right back where we were last year, with Williams, McCargo and an undersized DT in the rotation, Johnson in this case. We’re screwed without Stroud, just like we are without Peters.
I’m still kind of confused why we didn’t bring in another DT with some size this offseason….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean why we didn’t draft Bryant instead of Fine?
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's one
build the lines, not 3rd string TE’s….
I don’t care if Bryant never amounts to anything as a starting DT, I’d much rather have another big body in the rotation. We’re dead without Stroud.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because they have four they like, and you can’t have infinite depth. Can you see them keeping five DTs and six corners? At some point, you can’t have everything you want. :)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to rub it in....
Hey, Kurupt. They keep showing the Hardy TD catch on the Bills broadcast. I’m guessing they’re still ignoring it on the Skins channel….
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes
It’s all Skins all the time. Mike Patrick just finished complaining about the Bills calling a TO in this situation. He has no clue why they’d call a TO towards the end of a preseason game. Joe Theismann ended up as the voice of reason, which says a lot about the situation….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look....
I ain’t too worried about a loss in preseason… Did we ever have a winning preseason during the “glory” years???
This is, and was, our chance to see the young guys play.. Not a prelude to the season by any means!!!!!
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We’re in agreement. Some good things to take away from this game. i was particularly impressed with the passing game.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
150 yards is not impressive, especially with 30 passes
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who's passing game?
Surely not our 1st stringers, the only ones that matter
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not talking stats, I’m talking about scheme. No more of Fairchild’s drop back a century and pray someone gets open. There was method, there was change in tempo. I liked the play-calling for the most part.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
but I don’t like 1 yard outs to TE’s
Hope Schonert ramps it up a bit in the next 2 weeks. We aren’t succeeding throwing 3-5 yard passes the majority of the time….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Guys… it’s the first pre-season game. Do you really think we’ve seen the whole offense?
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course not
but oh how I saw some of last year’s tendencies. Runs up the gut, useless short passes, etc. I’m just hoping to see improvement each week of the preseason. I’ll have hope if that’s the case, but if we see more of what we saw tonight, we are in trouble early in the season.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy's TD was nice
Losman put it in a place that only Hardy had a chance at it.
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about the score
I do care that it’s been a sloppy game all the way around…penalties, poor DT play, none yard passes on 4th downs
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They only had five or six penalties, unless I’m grievously mistaken. I didn’t think the penalties part was nearly as bad as it could have been, considering it’s the first pre-season game.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were stupid penalties though
Lots of false starts
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a re-tooled offensive line playing together for the first time. Sloppy? Yes. End of the world? Clearly not.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, not end of the world
but not good either
by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only false starts, though.
I checked the play-by-play; the only penalties the Bills had that weren’t false starts were declined. (one on Mitchell and the illegal formation at the end of the game.)
At least that’s something that usually improves with experience together, rather than holding or roughing the passer penalties.
by Krenn on Aug 9, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starting tackles
I know one starting tackle that didn’t make ANY mistakes tonight.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's the one
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandon better doing EVERYTHING he can to get Peters to camp this week. Send Ed McMahon to his house if he has to.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that would be funny to see
Send Ed McMahon down to his house with a giant check that says, “SIGNING BONUS” on it (and lots of zeroes.) Then he can stand in Peters’ yard and tear it up, sigh, and leave…
by Krenn on Aug 9, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright...
It’s been great, blogin’ w/y’all… But settle down.. It’s only the first preseason… I know I’ll be watching it again to find some “bright” spots, as will a lot of you… For now, gonight…
by Cinga on Aug 9, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for stopping by, Cinga. Don’t forget to retrieve the potential sis-in-law from the yard.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight was a success though
no major injuries. At least from what I saw.
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL Nertwork/poll
I just saw Zach Thomas in a Cowboys uniform- pretty jarring at first glance…quick poll for anyone still here or who reads this later:
Fantasy/yardage and TD league, non keeper…first pick- who do you take? Also, I was offered the 7th overall pick and a 3rd rounder for the 1st overall pick and my 8th rounder…am I crazy to be considering it because I’d like to grab Lynch there and another top 30 player over the pick of the litter? Thanks in advance,
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough
I’d still take LT first.
But that trade is very appealing. You could get Lynch at #7, or my preference Marion Barber, who should score a lot more than Lynch, IMO. On the way back, get a stud WR and RB, and then another stud WR the other guy’s 3rd rounder. I really have no idea what I’d do with that scenario. Guess it depends on how much more you value whoever you’d take at #1 than Lynch and say Steve Smith/TJ Houshmandzadeh in round 3. I’d probably have to do the trade because you’d have 4 top players instead of 3….
~K
by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll defer to K on this one. He was last year’s champ, after all.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 9, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't
There’s a significant gap between the #1 player and the #2 player at most positions – much bigger than any other gap, so you’d probably be better off taking Tomlinson or Brady (if you can stand it) first overall.
But then, I missed the playoffs in my league last year…
by Krenn on Aug 9, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate drawing the first pick in 1 year leagues
Tomlinson just scares me a little because he’s got some tread on his tires and RBs just drop from the top to mediocre out of nowhere…I had Marshall Faulk the year it happened to him…I’m leaning towards Peterson. If I make the trade, I’m aiming for Lynch, but I worry that the RBs all go first (Tomlinson, Peterson, Addai, Westbrook, Jackson, Lynch) and the next most valuable players in my opinion are Brady and Moss and I’m obviously not picking them two scumbags…I had Barber in this league last year and Wade frustrated me at times when he’d occasionally decide it was a Julius Jones game for no good reason…My keeper league problem is a lot more fun where we’re allowed to keep up to 7 players I’m keeping:
Tomlinson
Peterson
Addai
P. Manning
Winslow
Steve Smith-CAR
and debating Holt or Cotchery for my 7th…this is the 11th year of this keeper league and I officially have a juggernaut on my hands for this year…I’ll get to draft a defense with my first pick just to rub it in.
Never forget 56-10. Revenge.
by SuperFan82 on Aug 9, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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