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Seahawks Week: Seahawks' run game should be improved

Welcome to "Seahawks Week", Rumblers!  In an effort to learn all that we can about the Buffalo Bills' season opening opponent, the Seattle Seahawks, we'll be joined once per day by John Morgan of Field Gulls throughout this week.  John is a superbly knowledgeable blogger when it comes to the X's and O's of the game, and he'll give us some excellent perspective on the Seahawks as a team heading into Sunday's tilt.  To see today's reciprocal installment, click here; to see all posts related to Seahawks Week, click here.

Our first topic of conversation for Seahawks Week: Seattle's situation at running back.  With former NFL MVP Shaun Alexander now out of the picture, the Seahawks have made some pretty substantial changes in their rushing department, now relying on a deep stable of runners to shoulder the load.  How effective can they be?  John Morgan doesn't believe the drop-off will be a steep one...

Buffalo Rumblings: We're all assuming that Julius Jones is the Seahawks' starting running back.  Are there any serious competitors for Jones' supposed starting job?  Are the Seahawks looking at working with a RB by committee?  Will it help shore up a poor rushing attack?

John Morgan, Field Gulls: Julius Jones is the starter and should see the most carries, but I think Mike Holmgren is serious about Jones being the 1a and Maurice Morris the 1b. Jones is a complete running back. He's a competent rusher and receiver, a good blocking back, and an excellent fit for Holmgren's pull block/cutback system. Morris is the better overall offensive weapon. I wouldn't have said that a season ago, but Morris has been reborn in 2008. Already among the best receiving running backs in the NFL, Morris has embraced starting; he's bulked up and is shiftier in the open field, less a single cut rusher and more a complete rusher: fast to the hole but able to break or miss a tackle in space.

The two should combine for ~85% of the touches. Initially, Jones will get the slight majority, but that could change. The remaining 15% will go to T.J. Duckett and Justin Forsett. Duckett, perhaps misguidedly, is once again pigeonholed as a short yardage back. He's strong in short yardage; tough to tackle at the spot of contact. Last season, Duckett gained a first down on 25% of all rushes and was 5 for 6 in "power" situations. But he can be picky choosing a hole and probably would make a better fulltime rusher rather than merely a short yardage back. Forsett is a tiny power-back with an excellent second gear. He excels at breaking the first tackle and exploding for another 10. For now, Forsett is strictly a punt returner and occasional change of pace back, but after an at-times spectacular preseason, he could earn himself more touches.

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I've always been a big proponent of a RB-by-committee, and the Seahawks' talent pool at the position - coupled with the fact that Mike Holmgren's offenses are generally above average - quite frankly scares me.  I am confident that Buffalo's revamped rushing defense, led by DT acquisition Marcus Stroud, can keep these guys in check.  But unless the Bills can build a quick lead and make the Seahawks chase, this group has the ability to wear down Buffalo's front seven.

It's also important to keep in mind that each of these guys - yes, even Duckett - can make you pay as receivers.  Morris has long been a Kevin Faulk type, but has toiled in anonymity behind Alexander.  With injury issues at wide receiver, you can bet that Holmgren will be using both Jones and Morris as receivers in the passing game - and that's not a bad thing for the Seahawks' offense.

No, they're not Shaun Alexander (in his prime).  But they're talented, and they're versatile.  Buffalo's defense has a task ahead of them this Sunday, folks.

Poll
Which Seahawks RB concerns you most for Sunday's opener?
Julius Jones
55 votes
Maurice Morris
80 votes
T.J. Duckett
13 votes
N/A - Buffalo's defense should contain all three.
102 votes

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Hasselbeck always spreads the ball around well. Even with the Seagulls injuries at receiver they are still a threat through the air.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Sep 1, 2008 5:08 PM EDT   0 recs

More on that tomorrow…

by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Great-Wall-of-Greed. Very nice.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Sep 1, 2008 5:12 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm not scared of Julius Jones

I actually think TJ Duckett and Morris are the more dangerous threats to the Bills running D. I’ve always thought Morris was better than the playing time he has gotten and I remember being at the game when we hosted the Falcons a few seasons back (the game Takeo suffered his career changing injury) and being more impressed by TJ’s size and power than Vick or Warrick Dunn.

Honestly, Nate Burleson is a greater threat through the air than what we’ll face on the ground. Can’t some of Alexander’s decline be attributed to the decline of the talent on the Hawks O-Line? Julius Jones never got it rolling in Dallas and I don’t think we’ll have to worry about him. Morris is a player though but I think our run D will be fine. Far more important is getting pressure on Hasselback and his bad back and the game may hinge (even our season) on our secondary proving that they can dominate when playing against less than stellar talent at the receiver position.

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Sep 1, 2008 6:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Watch the 'Hawks' TEs

They have John Carlson and that kid can catch the ball. He has Steve Johnson like hands from the TE position and has solid game speed, he can make a move and plow a guy as well. Weaver and Schmitt have also gotten a lot of touches in preseason through the air and on the ground.

Due to their injuries in the WR corps I expect a lot of button-hooks, swings and flat passes to the RBs and a lot of seam passes to their Carlson this game. Our LBs MUST be on top of their short yardage passing defense game on Sunday. Also, Fewell had better stop having McGee and Greer 10 bloody F’in yards off the ball against the Seahawks. We will need to play man and press the WRs if we hope to keep passes going to RBs/TEs with our LBs and Safeties.

Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....

by WABillsfan on Sep 1, 2008 7:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Thank you for the honest unbiased analysis

from a seahawk fan I don’t feel jaded, in fact I have a little more respect for the fans.

Concerning drop off in talent on the O-line the pick up of Wahle will suprise alot of DTs, He’s maybe 85% of Hutch and has opened up some decent holes against some 1st string dlines in the preseason next to Walter Jones. Our depth on the line is good despite a shallow tackle population. All-in-all it might surprise some on gameday.

Carlson WILL split time with Heller and Putzier at tight end until he’s proven. He hasn’t done anything outstanding yet but he’s a quick study, he had a perfect score on the wonderlic test and that’s good news for Holmgrens’ complicated scheme. Watch for Putzier to get audibled to slot reciever on many plays he’s in, he’s got hands.

Concerning Alexander he’ll find a spot on a team before the season is out, but he’ll be called in when someone on some team fails completely or gets a season ending injury. He has proven nothing since ’05 and is a complete gamble at this point.

Why? Because the Seahawks rock my socks.

by Chickadee on Sep 1, 2008 7:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Seattle

My Super Bowl pick is Jaguars-Seahwaks in Tampa this February. I took some serious flak for picking Seattle to make it there, so my question is whether or not a Super Bowl season is the general expectation surrounding your team this year (at least amongst the fans). I can’t see Dallas winning 2-3 playoff games, the Giants don’t look like a budding dynasty to me, Minnesota and Green Bay don’t have QBs capable of making a Super Bowl, and the NFC South is a mess…that leaves Seattle if you ask me…am I crazy to think this? Good lucking starting in Week 2.

Never forget 56-10. Revenge.

by SuperFan82 on Sep 1, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I personally think, and there are a number of us in this camp,

That this team is better/more telented/more seasoned/better ran/and possessing more upside than the super bowl team of ‘05. Mainly defense, returning all starters, that’s ALL starters to an already great defense. And, despite what the press says, I think our linebacking trio is the best in the business, purhaps the best there’s been for some time. Lofa Tatupu is to the Seattle defense as Peyton Manning is to the Colts offense, the guy is a clever and impressive foe. I think Seattles biggest weakness, bar none, is Brian Russle, free safety. That is the guy is slow. He tackles well and makes decent reads, is tall and can do his job, but if he makes the wrong read he is no longer a factor in that play, that’s how slow he is. Expect CB Kelly Jennings to have a breakout year. He’s not a playmaker yet but he’s tall, and fast and can deflect passes with the best of them and that will be run through the gauntlet this year as teams will avoid pro bowler Marcus Trufant on the opposite side.

Don’t worry about Seattles’ wide receivers, I’ve seen alot of promising work this preseason. Expect some fantastic receptions, but an equal number of dropped gimmies to the new guys, still kinda green but the three young WR of note have great upside. Expect to see Logan Payne do at least 6 end arounds this season. Minimum. Jordan Kent has Olympic speed and Logan Payne is a massive Try-Hard and may yet blossom. And never count out Seneca Wallace.

Hasslebeck is in his prime still, and don’t worry about his back, we just wanted to see what Charlie Frye can do. Expect Hasslebeck to be one of the smartest QB’s you’ll see this season.

I see Seattle getting a ring this year, and that’s not just optimism, they have the 19th toughest scedule this year according to last years’ opponents W/L records and posess some amazing coaches. I’m so enthused to be a fan.

Why? Because the Seahawks rock my socks.

by Chickadee on Sep 2, 2008 2:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good breakdown

How are your DE’s against the run? Are they like the Bills DE’s and are always in pass rush mode leaving gaping holes off-tackle? I know your guys can get after the QB.

Are you worried about your running game?

I think that’s a little optimistic to see your team getting a ring this year. You have the same D, which is great, but isn’t your O down some good WR’s and still lacks a strong running game at this point? And I think your schedule is significantly tougher than last year’s cake walk…

If your WR’s don’t have a case of the dropsies again (that must have been a brutal 2-3 year stretch to watch those guys), Hasslebeck will make some of them contributors. He’s a great QB who just knows how to get it done.

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 2, 2008 11:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well we have Patrick Kerney

Have you seen his neck? I’d love to see him and walter jones at their primes play tug-of-war, so leftDE is taken care of. RightDE is played by Daryll Tapp and Lawrence Jackson. Tapp is solid, no complaints, good but not great yet. Lawrence Jackson had a great preseason, he’s a rookie btw and our first round draft pick. He impressed I must say. Good edge rush, plenty of speed. But concerning holes off tackle, I guarantee if there is that hole Julian Peteron or LeRoy Hill will be in those holes like white on rice (our OLBs) .

Not worried about the running game at all. At the end of the day it was an improvement over last year, no matter what happens. We’ve got great second gears in Jones and Morris, not to mention Forsett who must be watched on punts and maybe even kickoffs. Duckett is good at picking up 1-3 yards on 3rd because I have yet to see him not fall forward on a up the gut run and he’s just so large. The accepted percentages I’ve been seeing around our coop is Jones 45% Morris 35% Duckett 15% and Forsett 5%. It’ll be exciting to say the least.

Like I said, our young up and comers are fairly solid. High upside and plenty of potential, we have to just see them fulfill that potential. Obumanu with the broken clavicle had yet to be an impact player despite his praise from practice. Deion Branch is due back after the bye in week 4, and beside the Bills here week one we face the 49ers and the Rams week 2 and 3 so we don’t really have to be THAT good. Bobby Engram should return by week 5. What I see is not a handicap but an oppurtunity to see our young WRs shine and from what I’ve seen in the preseason when Charlie Frye and Seneca Wallace were making them look good I’m excited to see what Hasselbeck can turn them into.

Why? Because the Seahawks rock my socks.

by Chickadee on Sep 2, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not to nickpick, but Jennings is quite undersized.

I also think we could easily be overestimating our receivers based upon their performance in PS, which as we know from past experience doesn’t mean much.

by redwolf75 on Sep 3, 2008 1:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

we'll have to wait till gameday

but I’m telling you it’s gonna be fun for both of us. I hope. ;)

Why? Because the Seahawks rock my socks.

by Chickadee on Sep 3, 2008 1:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

To be scared of Julius Jones or TJ Duckett is just crazy. Those guys flat out stink. If Seattle has success running against us, it’ll be due to their OL’s blocking more than the guys running the ball.

I like Mo Morris, but he’s a much better receiver than runner.

If Seattle is able to run well against us, it’s a bad sign for the rest of the season….

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Those guys flat out stink.

I think that’s a bit strong, K. They weren’t world-beaters when they were feature backs, but they’re not feature backs anymore. We’ve never seen how they work together, and Morris makes them better. To blow them off because of their past overall suckiness is a mistake in my book.

by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t think that’s very strong at all. Duckett has bounced around the league the last few years for a reason. Jones never gave Marion Barber much competition for playing time last year because he couldn’t get the job done. He averaged 3.6 ypc for one of the best O’s in the league last year. Yes, I think both of them are pretty terrible.

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cowboys didn't fit his style

when Barber was picked up the running game transitioned to a new scheme, one that Barber used in College and was new to jones. It will be a mistake to count him out.

Why? Because the Seahawks rock my socks.

by Chickadee on Sep 2, 2008 2:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t buy it, not until I see something good from Jones. I watched a lot of Cowboys games last year, and he just stunk. He couldn’t run behind one of the best OL’s in the league, nor could he break a tackle. If he is all of a sudden better than what I saw from him last year, then I’ll give him some credit, but I’ve seen enough of him to hate the way he runs.

Also, Mo Morris won the starting RB job right?

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 2, 2008 11:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No, he didn’t, as John Morgan alluded to in the article. Jones starts and gets more carries than Morris, who will also be prominently involved, particularly as a receiver.

by Brian Galliford on Sep 2, 2008 12:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Morris is #1 on their Depth Chart though...

and will prove it as the season progresses, IMO

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 2, 2008 1:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I almost hope so

but I think Jones has more potential than Morris. Morris is good at what he does but he has a limited skill set.

Why? Because the Seahawks rock my socks.

by Chickadee on Sep 2, 2008 3:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I disagree, but hey,

in a few days we’ll get some insight.

by redwolf75 on Sep 3, 2008 1:07 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I dont think thats strong at all.

The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ

by NYTXFAN on Sep 2, 2008 5:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

bottom line

is that the Seahawks will compete. Veteran coach, veteran QB. GOing to be a meat-grinder. Like we stated earlier, the only way the Bills win this game is if the OFFENSE wins the game. Sure the defense will be stout and make its fair share of plays but the OFFENSE has to light up the scoreboard to a tune of 20-27 pts

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Sep 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT   0 recs

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