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Bills WR Roscoe Parrish will undergo thumb surgery and could be out until the Bills' first meeting with the New England Patriots, on November 9. Uh oh.

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This stinks….our ST’s just took a hit, our passing game took a hit, one of our playmakers is out for a significant portion of the season now and who knows, maybe this even starts one of those injury snowballs….ugh

Looks like Steve Johnson will get a chance this week, at least to be active. Justin Jenkins needs to step up in the slot, he looked good in the preseason. Hardy, oh Hardy, we definitely need you now big fella.

And that was quick….McKelvin is now the full-time punt and kick returner….hope he has learned from his preseason mistakes….

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 24, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this might be a bigger hit to the Bills passing game that its special teams. McKelvin showed some good moves in the preseason and I have hope that he will be just fine on PR duty. I am less confident in Jennkins and Hardy in the receiving game. Before, teams had to worry about covering two very quick receivers who could possibly get big yards after the catch. Now the defense only has to worry about Evans and I can see more situations where he will be double teamed.

by BuffaloBrewed on Sep 24, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well....

I think it hurts both areas, but we do have good options to replace him, thankfully….

I’m worried about McKelvin’s judgment back there, as we witnessed some issues in the preseason with him. However, after watching Roscoe field that punt in the endzone, I think McKelvin will be ok. Bobby April will probably spend the majority of his time this week chirping in Leodis’ ear about not fielding it inside his 10. He can point out the preseason game against Pittsburgh and Roscoe’s mistake this past weekend as examples that are as clear as day.

I actually am pretty confident in Justin Jenkins. That guy is tough, has pretty darn good hands and has the size and strength to be effective for us. I love what I’ve seen from him in the past 2 preseasons catching the ball, so I’m not really that concerned with him stepping in. I think Steve Johnson could get some opportunities as well, though those should be few and far between at this point. James Hardy is the guy who really needs to step up. No more dropsies James, it’s time for you to come up big and play to your potential and billing.

Remember, up until this past week, Roscoe had been used very sparingly in the passing game. Also, Freddie Jackson is plenty good enough to continue being a good threat for Trent, which will also help replace Roscoe.

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 24, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it hurts

 no doubt about it….but, that said, at least it is not for the season and who knows maybe he is back in 3-4 weeks instead of 6. Having the bye in the there means he misses a max of 5 games which I think is doable. It hurts the passing game big time but supplementing more plays for lynch/jackson in space I think will do the trick. The problem with Hardy is I think he is a long ways from being a good route winner which limits his abilities to down field fly patterns and red zone opportunities. Reed, Evans, Royal, Jackson, Lynch will be counted on to pick it up. I don’t see Steve Johnson getting activated. And if Barnes doesn’t play this week it will be interesting to see who is active to help out the special teams

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Sep 24, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to mention . . .

we have a bye coming up after Arizona so thats a positive . . . sort of.

by uscBillsGamecock on Sep 25, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mckelvin

as bad as this may seem now, i think it bodes well for the future. i’m glad that roscoe didn’t try and go shawne merriman and forgo surgery. mckelvin was a far better punt returner than kick returner in college, so im pretty confident that he’ll be able to step in and play well during roscoe’s absence. then, right before what i think is one of the most important games of the season, new england on nov. 9, roscoe returns, and leodis still has a few games of primary return duties under his belt in case roscoe gets hurt again or has to step up as the primary slot receiver. ill miss “dynamite” parrish, but im excited to see what mckelvin can do.

by illeagle12 on Sep 24, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dangit to heck!

Well, I guess we we’ll see how Leodis is at returning kicks.

by RabidBuffalo on Sep 24, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this could be a good thing

hear me out….

First let me preface by saying that Roscoe was starting to emerge this year as a real weapon on offense and I think losing him hurts our offense more than special teams.

Ok,

This could be a real chance for James Hardy to step up, make some plays, and develop as a talent. Rookie talent always develops faster on a confident and winning team and he’ll be stepping in right as our team has reached that mindset. After our first three wins, teams will have had tons of film on our new offense, on Roscoe and nothing on Hardy. This could be a chance for Turk to keep opposing defenses on their toes for another 3-4 weeks, especially going into the bye. If we give Hardy a bigger role then Turk will surely throw in some philosophical changes to our offense, it is still early so our offensive identity hasn’t been established fully yet. If we can do that, find ways to shift our playcalling (which I believe Turk has already proven himself willing and capable of doing) it could really give us an advantage over defenses. Plus, when Roscoe returns in November, we can always then go right back into a new offensive mindset, if Hardy develops, into one which incorporates them both.

I see this as an opportunity.

McKelvin and Hardy - rookies of the year

by poz on Sep 24, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I see what you mean . . .

. . . BUT, it stings losing Roscoe especially considering Hardy lacks any speed on the field whatsoever. I agree with the fact that it is definitely an opportunity for him to step up and show the coaches what he is actually capable of. During the draft I was honestly hoping we would draft DeSean Jackson or Malcom Kelly but I love what Hardy brings to table with his redzone capabilities. It always sucks having injuries but I don’t see this effecting our strategy TOO much considering Roscoe is a number 3. Your totally on point with the development of rookies on teams that are winning football games and have confidence because more often than not, that confidence rubs off on the rookie. We shall see what happens Sunday in STL.

by uscBillsGamecock on Sep 25, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blessing in disguise?

This injury to Roscoe could be a gift and a curse to the Bills. It will allow Josh Reed to move to a more natural position(slot receiver) and get James Hardy on the field. Having Hardy on the field will give this offense a dimension that will benefit Trent Edwards and make Lee Evans an even bigger impact on Sundays. DB’s will have a more difficult time jamming our receivers off the line (the way the Raiders were doing Roscoe). It will also allow the younger players (McKelvin, Hardy) to gain much needed game experience and increase our depth for the proverbial “playoff push”.

by the Skycap on Sep 24, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree 100%

Except for the “blessing in disguise” part, I agree 100%. The Bills really need to see what a tall receiver can do in their offense opposite Evans. With Evans, Reed and Parrish, we know the limitations. Frankly, Evans has not really produced this year the way he should. And Reed is the perfect slot/3rd receiver. Parrish appears to be a special talent for special plays, not a No. 2 WR. If Hardy can contribute more regularly, this will give the offense so many options (with Barnes/Jackson/Lynch starting to do more) in the air by the time Parrish returns. I would like Schonert to forget about Jenkins and Johnson and try to see what Hardy can do (and what Evans can do opposite Hardy).

by labill on Sep 24, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frankly, Evans has not really produced this year the way he should.

Evans is on pace for 64 grabs and over 1,300 yards. Unless you’re talking about touchdowns, I have to disagree with you on this one.

by Brian Galliford on Sep 24, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

Lee Evans caught a few big passes (and I am actually a big fan of his), but if you project 64 grabs for the season (especially during 3 straight victories with a lot of scoring/offense), and zero TDs so far, I think he really has not produced great. Why do you think 64 pass receptions for the year would be a good stat? Josh Reed had 51 last year with a couple of injuries. Last week, his fumble, interception loss, and pushing penalty really hurt; zero TDs in 3 high scoring victories; only 4 receptions in each game. I think he could be quite a bit better — his production is not too dissimilar to last year because he has the same WRs around him. My point was that with Hardy playing, it will be interesting to see whether Evans can be freed up to show more production as our No.1 WR.

by labill on Sep 24, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have to remember two things, though – defenses are keying on him, and Edwards has been pretty masterful in distributing the ball. He’s averaging over 20 yards per catch.

I’m not saying that I wouldn’t be thrilled if he produced more. But in this offense, I think he’s doing just fine.

by Brian Galliford on Sep 24, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let Evans pick up some steam

By the end of the year, I think you will be looking back on an awesome season from 83. He will score his touchdowns.

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Sep 24, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Steve Johnson will see the field.

The Bills don’t get a roster spot for Parrish being out, do they? I don’t think so. I doubt they will sacrifice STs to bring Johnson onto the roster to lessen Parrish’s absence. Leodis will be taking over return duties (don’t be surprised to see #24 back there again too), and Hardy will have to step up in 3 WR formations, putting Reed in the slot. Jenkins will get a token look at the offensive game plan, but that’s about all it will be.

This might be a wake up call to the OL to run the ball better. Also, it makes me think Schouman and Royal will be involved more as well..

by krytime on Sep 24, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My guess is that they will just make Roscoe inactive and activate Jenkins or Johnson, someone who has been on the inactive roster for the season thus far.

by pozzed51 on Sep 24, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait. That was my bad.

I was thinking wrong there. While Jenkins has been active, Johnson could be activated while Roscoe is on the shelf.

by krytime on Sep 24, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whittle at FB

Reports are that they are trying Whittle at FB. That’s great another O-lineman blocking for Marshawn can only help, but what is the status of Matt Murphy? He would be a better option than Whittle because not only is he a lineman, but he is a former tight end. He would be a great option in the pass game for Trent as well. Linebackers would have to account for him sneaking out the backfield opening up the field for Reed and Marshawn underneath.

by the Skycap on Sep 24, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would Murphy be a better option? Who would you cut to sign him and hope he could actually perform at FB? At least Whittle has lined up there in the past….

I don’t get why so many of you want Murphy…..he couldn’t make it as a TE, he couldn’t make it as an OT and he’s surely not going to make it as a FB any time soon….

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 24, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Kurupt

Murphy would be a better option because he is a former TE and because he can block. Whittle has never caught a pass. As far as Murphy not making it, Jason Peters wasn’t drafted either. And how about Earnest Graham, he was cut by 3 different teams.

by the Skycap on Sep 24, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do you expect Whittle to have to catch passes when Barnes himself has only caught two, and on desperation plays by Edwards?

I’m with K – playing Whittle as a blocker, which is all Murphy would be, is a much better option than trying to bring Murphy back (who is still injured, if you recall).

by Brian Galliford on Sep 24, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pardon me, but What?

What does any of that have to do with Murphy playing FB?

Just because Murphy is a former TE doesn’t mean he’d be anything special at FB. Since when can Murphy block so well? And why do you assume he’s better than Whittle at blocking? Whittle HAS lined up in the backfield before I believe, back in the early games of last year before he was hurt.

I don’t see why Whittle never catching a pass before has anything to do with him playing FB? The two passes Barnes caught were the first 2 thrown his way, and one was a crazy dumpoff. We don’t throw to the FB routinely enough to worry about whether the guy is a receiving threat.

The biggest detriment to your theory is that Murphy ISN’T EVEN ON THE TEAM!!!! Why would we cut someone to bring him back and move him to a FB role that he’s never played and probably wouldn’t be all that good at anyways???

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RIGHT

We would have tried him at FB already, and if he wasn’t better than Barnes then, he won’t be now

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Sep 24, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All of you are nuts

Having a receiving threat in the backfield would make defenses respect that option. If you were a defensive coach/player and you seen Whittle/Murphy in the backfield which one would you respect more to leak out of the backfield and catch a pass? Murphy was cut because of a numbers game, not because he can’t play. I’m not assuming that he is a better blocker, just a better option. Brian and Kurupt if you watched the Bills games correctly, Barnes has had a couple of dropped passes in prior games. Go back and watch the Jacksonville game late when Edwards threw that short pass to Roscoe. Barnes leaked out of the backfield wide open. Edwards looked his way and threw to Parrish. Having that receiving option would only make your offense better. Defenses will have to respect it.

by the Skycap on Sep 25, 2008 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what would also make our offense better? Having a respectable running game. Trent’s got enough rushing weapons. Whittle’s a better blocker than Murphy is, and as Kurupt said, Whittle is actually on the team. I appreciate your efforts for Murphy, a player I respect immensely for his efforts battling a severe injury while Peters was holding out, but bringing him back hurt just to catch a pass here or there is pretty unrealistic.

by Brian Galliford on Sep 25, 2008 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murphy was cut

When we activated Jason Peters.

With Roscoe sitting out, see OBD just dresssing SJ and giving the Roscoe slot role to Jenkins. Hardy, when used, will be outside or in the bunch of 3 that we used in red zone against Jacksonville.

If Barnes is hurt badly, and there is no indication he is, my guess is they would shelf him on IR and bring Jonathan Evans back. With Whittle taking snaps, tells me Barnes is a 1-2 week thing and Jason would be used in Goal Line or 3rd and 1 plays.

by freddyjj on Sep 24, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Barnes is hurt badly, and there is no indication he is

We’re hearing that Barnes will be out “a while”.

by Brian Galliford on Sep 24, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BARNES BELIEVES HE'LL PLAY

Bills FB Darian Barnes did not practice with his teammates today, but did do work on the side with trainers. He said his injured foot felt retty good and that the MRI he had on the foot Tuesday was negative.

It’s believed to be a bone bruise, but he said he’s feeling good about the progress he’s made and believes he’ll be able to play on Sunday.

by XtrmeCarnage82 on Sep 24, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t do us no favors!!

by the Skycap on Sep 24, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick! Negate your double negative so he’ll sit! :)

by Brian Galliford on Sep 24, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn if you didn’t beat me to it!

by Zumone on Sep 24, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This hurts...

I don’t see much positive in this at all. This guy has accounted for 2 of our 9 TD’s this season and played a significant role in both of our 4th quarter comebacks. He is a player that we knew could have a huge impact and until this year haven’t been able to figure out how to use him on offense.

I understand that this will create opportunities for our young guys, especially McKelvin and Hardy and the experience will help them along, but I don’t think this is a positive for our team as some have alluded to. I guess we are lucky to have McKelvin because our ST shouldn’t take too much of a hit for this, but I liked what he brought to the table on offense. Get well soon!

by BuffaloWill on Sep 24, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it may not be positive, but its not as bad as it could be

think about it, with him coming back on nov 9 against the pats, itll give us a nice lil bump at the end of the year, the home stretch if you will. also that will mean he only misses 2 div games, dolphins and jets, and we should win those anyways. this still have him playing in both NE games and the other 2 div games. we also have mckelvin which is looking like the best pick the longer we go through this season. mckelvin is obviously a rookie and can make rookie mistakes, but hester was also a rookie and made a big splash. its time to see what the kid can do. (obviously id rather have roscoe, but this will keep him healthy for the end of the year in a weird backwards type way)

Bills make me wanna SHOUT!

by silverstreak3k on Sep 24, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts

It is really hard to put a positive spin on Roscoe in my opinion. He is a playmaker—plain and simple. Hard to replace those. So, for all those lamenting how the rookies haven’t been on the field much—now’s the chance. Reed will be mostly in the slot and Hardy will for sure see more snaps and balls. Leodis in now the return guy period—although I’d be surprised if DJ/April trusted him much handling punts inside the ten, at least at the outset. It will be interesting to see if Stevie Johnson is active on Sunday. Barnes is not going to play is what I hear.

Geronimo

by Geronimo on Sep 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody should handle punts inside the 10, even guys as good as Roscoe!

I’d have to imagine Johnson will be active. We’ve seen a lot of 4 WR’s sets so far this year, so if one of the guys ahead of him goes down, then we really have to switch up our philosophy or put a RB in the slot more often. I don’t expect Johnson to play on offense any time soon, unless there are more injuries, but there’s no reason he couldn’t help us on ST’s.

Looking over the inactives from the past few weeks, there’s only 3 guys I can see being activated….Johnson, Whittle or Ellis. If Barnes is out, Whittle will be activated for him anyhow. Now if the staff wants to try getting Ellis some reps on D, then I can see him activated, but that doesn’t seem imminent anytime soon. I think a 5th WR will be more important this week and in the next few games than a 5th DE assuming everyone is healthy at those positions….

~K

by Kurupt on Sep 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Whittle's the no brainer here.

They really don’t need Johnson in the lineup. If need really be, they could pull off a 4 WR formation with Jackson, Lynch, or even Schouman. It’s really not that much of a juggle.

As far as Ellis goes, my guess is the reason he’s not in the lineup is because Copeland is a better STs player. If you want him in the lineup (Lord knows we all know you want another DE in there), let him first beat out someone that no one knows anything about.

Whittle gives you some average OL versatility. He’s also one of the older guys on this team. That in itself might be a reason to have him dress in a game they are “supposed” to win.

by krytime on Sep 24, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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