Fine tuning this great team
A few player personnel moves for thought (not about actual play calling, since I defer to others who are much more knowledgable). I say these half in jest, but this team is very special and such a team should always think about fine tuning:
1. Activate Chris Ellis and give him some time by subing out Schobel. Kelsey and Denny are doing their part. Schobel has disappeared. I don't recall any plays that Schobel made -- and I don't recall Schobel anywhere near my tv when Steven Jackson was running. Ellis is apparently good at putting the pressure on the QB. We get more pressure from the LBs (Poz, Veek), DTs (Williams, Johnson) and DBs (Youboty, Whitner, Scott) then Schobel. Love to get a Ron From NM type of play by play analysis of Schobel (is he being double teamed a lot -- I frankly didn't see too many of that).
2. Bench Peters until after the bye (I guess that means only the Arizona game). Pretty obvious to me -- if we lost any/all the last 3 games, he would have been the main goat in each one of them. Also, that will put him in his place for pulling the hold out stunt. Move Walker back to LT and Chambers to RT until the bye -- work on Peters' fundamentals.
3. Play Jackson along with Marshawn for half the plays; the other half, play one back. Forget the FB for most plays. Instead of opening holes, they just seem to clog and crowd the running lanes. I think Oman should be considered to be deactivated. Didn't Lynch look injured (or just slow to get up) in every play? We have got to preserve him a little.
4. Bench Fowler and see what Duke has. Fowler is a center who always gets pushed back, while the FB eats up valuable open space has made the middle impossible to get through. I think he is handicapping the rest of the OL -- he just can't handle the big DTs, or the fast DTs, or the blitzing LBs. He backs up so quickly that he tackles our own QB. I don't recall too many plays where our RBs got through the middle -- I do recall many plays where our RBs first go to the middle, then has the smarts to decide to better break outside. By the way, Butler always seemed to me to be a candidate for Center -- just an impression I have. Duke just seems so much better than last year. And he is a lot bigger than Fowler. In any event, I think both are in their last year of contract.
5. Bring in a veteran LB. I am really concerned about Corto and Costanzo being the backups (to Ellison!). What happens if Poz or Veek get injured? Our team should not be in the fate of DiGiorgio.
I said before that great teams win games they should lose. They win games they struggle in. They win games through luck and bad luck. They also win by getting better and not being complacent. The opponents see a weakness and they exploit it more and more.
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I don’t think I agree with any of these, though the Lynch/Jackson thing, I should point out, is already happening to an extent.
The saying isn’t “If it’s flawed, fix it even though you’ll risk breaking it”. We’re 4-0. The best way to “fine tune” the team is to simply play better, consistent football, especially in the first half.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 29, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
I was just trying
to be provocative. As I said, I am saying these “half in jest.” I was trying to find weaknesses that needs to be improved on. There aren’t many.
Sorry, but you don’t make all those moves on a 4-0 team. That’s borderline ridiculous!!! You work to improve areas of weakness, not give up on some guys and completely blow any building cohesiveness…
1. I do agree here though, but I’m not going to bad mouth Schobel here. He hasn’t gotten any sacks since week 1, but he has gotten some pressure. He missed a few sacks yesterday, that in year’s past he got, and did harass Green some. Sure, we need to get more pressure, but it isn’t happening with these guys. That’s why we blitz our LB"s and DB’s so much. If anybody should be questioned, it’s Kelsay. That guy is straight up bad, IMO. He made a few plays early, but other than the Russell sacks, he’s been non-existent in games. Schobel has been rather stout against the run, but Kelsay is usually nowhere to be found. As for Ellis, I want him activated because I’m sick of seeing Copeland Bryan on the field defensively. He’s overmatched and quite terrible there. On the Avery TD, he completely blew containment on the edge despite the fact that he should have known something was up as Avery was lined up at RB. He’s given us nothing else on D, and really hasn’t done anything on ST’s either. He’s not a good enough ST player for us to keep Ellis inactive. I’d be working hard at getting Ellis ready to play on ST’s and a handful of plays on D. It’s worth a shot and he can’t be any worse than Bryan.
2. Nothing like trying to put a player in place, and continuing to slow his and the line’s development. Yeah, he’s been pretty bad thus far, BUT you don’t bench him now and make it even harder for him to continue improving this year. He simply needs the playing time to get back to where he was. He was abused on the Chris Long sack, that was bad, and the holding penalty hurt, but he was pretty solid otherwise yesterday. Langston Walker was getting beat a lot yesterday, which is more concerning to me because he’s been in camp and had all the reps he should have needed. I think his growth was stunted a bit because of all the time he spent at LT, now he’s trying to get back into it on the right side. Putting Chambers in and moving Walker back to the left is NOT going to help things, and would probably make it worse in the long run. The OL needs to continue playing together and getting the reps. Messing around with that is not what needs to be done.
3. Jackson already gets a ton of reps. He lines up in the slot, we have both in the backfield a lot, what more can we do here? I would get him more involved in the passing game again, but the rotation/workload’s seem to be working fine at this point. The OL needs to help these guys first and foremost. Lynch was slow getting up yesterday, but he was working hard and taking some hits. He got his normal workload, so I don’t see where the problem is. Omon has been inactive for a while now, so not sure what you meant there.
4. Not sure what benching Fowler for Preston is going to solve. We’ve seen enough of Preston over the years to know he’s even worse than Fowler. Plus, his major issue is a lack of upper body strength, correct? He’s not going to do much for us getting push either. Why do you think Preston is all of a sudden much better this year??? Fowler’s a major problem, but Preston isn’t the answer….The answer is the first day of next year’s draft, unfortunately….
5. LB depth has been an issue all season. I’m not sure we’re going to find anything out there at this point that would help. We have those guys on the team now because they are solid ST’ers. That’s about it. IF there was any other options, I’m sure we’d have pursued those by now…..
The solutions to our ills are not found in benching starters. It’s being more consistent, playing smarter, and for some, continuing to get reps and experience (Hardy, McKelvin, Peters…)….
~K
I knew you would agree on the Ellis bit, because I do also. Kelsay reminds me of Aaron Smith of the Steelers, only worse. Kelsay is a nice guy to have in a rotation, who can come in on certain situations and be effective. Kelsay and Denney to me are guys who need to go. I still see DE as a major need for this team next year. We just saw what a pass rushing stud (Leonard Little) can accomplish.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Oh yeah, but my reasoning for Ellis isn’t so much for improving the pass rush. It’s to get Bryan off the field and see what the kid can provide. If he can get after the passer at all, BONUS.
Kelsay and Denney are redundant. We should have one or the other, not both, playing major roles. Neither can rush the passer, and neither is that good against the run.
I still can’t see how next offseason’s top priority can’t be a DE….both against the run and getting after the QB. We are very, very mediocre, at best, at the position now, and could really use an infusion of youth and speed.
~K
I would put DE at 1a and Center at 1b.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
And
if Ellis is ready to start next season is it still the # need for this team? The way you guys get down on DE is kind of ridiculous. Have the Bills not been getting pressure on QBs this season? Denney, Kelsay, and Schobel (even Bryan) have been getting PRESSURE. You guys act like if they don’t record a sack in every game then they suck. Look at how many sacks our DTs have this season. You don’t get that without pressure off the edge. And how many Leonard Little’s are there in the league? Y’all make it sound like the answer will be sitting there waiting for us in the draft, unless you want to give up the draft and pay a guy like $70 million (Jared Allen) to solve the problem. No thanks, I’ll take the guys who don’t get DUIs and play their asses off on every single play. These are our Bills, they are winning… giving a loyal fan base what it deserves, you should have every one of their backs while they’re on the team. If the Bills decide to upgrade next season, then so be it. Otherwise, man up and get their backs.
"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."
by ForeignArrow on Sep 29, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Those guys haven’t gotten any pressure outside of a few from Schobel and the one time Kelsay got to Russell. We have gotten pressure from blitzes, which has been mostly our LB’s Poz and Mitchell. Don’t confuse the ability to get to the QB based on blitzes with the ability of our DE’s to generate a pass rush.
I don’t care about sacks as much as I care about PRESSURE, and our DE’s don’t provide that at all. I don’t know what games you watch, but our DE’s give us nothing in the passing game. I have never questioned any of their desires or how hard they work. They just simply don’t get pressure on the QB.
I have NO IDEA what Jared Allen or Leonard Little has to do with our situation.
I’m sorry that I am giving my opinion on our DE situation, while to you it appears I’m not supporting them in any way
~K
I watch
every play of every Bills game, and our ends regularly force QBs to step up in the pocket. Leonard Little and Jared Allen (stay with me) came into the conversation because y’all want to make DE a “top priority.” Well, if you want to fix the position you are going to have to break the bank on a pricey free agent or a high draft pick… and DE is generally a risky position to draft. So, if the staff saw a reasonable way to upgrade our DEs, then they would have done so.
So, if Kelsay is doing such a bad job… do you really think our front office was sitting around watching tape on him and said “wow, Kelsay cannot rush the passer at all, let’s give him $6 million a year.” Don’t be sorry for giving your opinion on the DE situation, we are all WELL aware of how you two feel about it… so forgive me for getting sick and tired of it and calling you out. Hopefully in next year’s draft a stellar DE will fall to us, but you won’t hear me harping about it until, guess when… next year’s draft.
"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."
by ForeignArrow on Sep 29, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So apparently, we’re alone on this? Nobody else sees the problem with having to blitz to get any pressure? Schobel forces the QB to move around a bit, but I don’t see that coming from the other side. Much of our pressure comes from the LB’s and DB’s off the edge, and the LB’s and DT’s up the middle, not from the DE’s.
What’s wrong with using a first round draft pick on a DE? Our top 3 are all seemingly on the downside of their careers, and we don’t have that true passing rushing threat that other top D’s in the league have. What would be wrong with trying to address that with our first pick next year???
And I don’t think Kelsay’s getting paid to rush the passer, at least I hope not. He’s supposed to be solid against the run, I suppose, and is a very, very good leader. I think everybody who’s a Bills fan can agree that Kelsay is vastly overpaid.
~K
It is too early to lock in a DE as our #1 draft pick
We do need a pass rushing DE, but we also need a center and a LB to replace Crowell. Free agency will play a role as well.
That is very true
Not sure if there’ll be any centers worthy of a 1st rounder, and LB’s can be found at pretty much any point in the first 3-4 rounds and can contribute. A stud LB would be nice though…
~K
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by ForeignArrow on Sep 30, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
There are reasons why. More on that in tomorrow’s film review.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 29, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
That is just plain silly.
Please don’t think even for a second that I don’t root for each and every Bills player to kick @$$ on Sunday. I am simply noting limitations.
I’m a Mets fan (weep for me), and Luis Castillo was a black hole at 2nd base all year. I hated the fact that Omar Minaya gave him a 4 year deal, and would love to see him gone next year. That doesn’t mean that I didn’t root for him to get a hit every time he got to the plate. It’s the same with Kelsay and Denney.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Point #5 Is Achilles Heal
… I used to think OL depth was biggest vulnerability, but the backups proved me wrong. Now I think linebacker depth is biggest concern, but I agree with Kurupt … what are you going to do about it now? Trust me, every team in the NFL has an achilles heal or two.
LOL, Fine Tuning?
Dude I almost lost it when I read this post. These are not fine tunings, these are some major roster moves that you just don’t make to a team trying to gain consistency.
1. First off, if you watch the games (sober), you would see Aaron Schobel getting a ton of pressure on the QB. He hasn’t been getting the sacks, but he’s consistently around the QB. I don’t mind the idea of activating Chris Ellis instead of Copeland Bryan, but obviously the staff does not feel he is ready.
2. Simply put, benching Peters is STUPID. He’ll come into his own, but he’s not going to do it on the bench.
3. Playing Lynch and Jackson at the same time is a good idea, but you can’t overplay your hand, because when they are both in there you have one less blocker. And it’s not like the Bills have been lighting the world on fire with both of them in there anyway.
4. I think Jason Whittle would be much better at center than Duke Preston (especially run blocking). But the coaching staff is comfortable with Fowler for a reason. If they felt there was something better on the bench I’m sure they’d be in there.
5. John DiGi provides solid depth at all 3 LB positions, so there will only be a need to sign a vet if in fact one of our starters goes down. Ellison has played well, anyways… he’s actually been a better tackler than Kawika Mitchell.
Rotating Spencer Johnson in less because his run defense is disgusting is a fine tuning… not wholesale roster moves. In most of the big run plays given up by our defense, I have seen Spencer Johnson either lying on his keester or pushed out of the play. He does excellent on pass downs as he showed yesterday, but I would make a case for McCargo to get more snaps because I see him knifing through the line at least a couple of time per game with limited reps. And big props to Kyle Williams, dude is playing out of his mind next to Stroud.
"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."
I take back everything I said
I was just trying to get people riled up. My real points were: 1. I did not say to bench Schobel — just to ease Ellis in for some plays; 2. Peters, wasn’t ready to come in right away after the hold out — and he has hurt us, maybe the byeweek is when he can learn and catch up; 3. Oman could mix in (since Lynch and Jackson are getting pounded) and maybe we drop Barnes/Whittle; 4. Fowler really sucks; 5. LB has the least depth.

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