Bills' Edwards would do well to follow Hasselbeck blueprint
It happens all the time with young NFL quarterbacks - fans desperate to believe that their young signal-caller will blossom into a star compare their quarterback to others around the league, pointing out similarities in the hope that the youngster will develop along the same lines as the veteran. In the case of the Buffalo Bills' Trent Edwards, one veteran NFL quarterback compares quite well - and he just happens to be the man that Edwards will be squaring off against in Week 1 of the 2008 NFL season.
Seattle's Matt Hasselbeck didn't take the standard route to becoming one of today's best quarterbacks. Drafted by Green Bay, he spent the first two years of his career sitting behind Brett Favre; it was only when his former coach, Mike Holmgren, traded for Hasselbeck in 2001 that he became a full-time NFL starter. The results have been solid - Hasselbeck started his career off a bit slowly, but at the age of 32 has blossomed into the of the toughest, smartest and most productive players at his position. His Seahawks are also a perennial contender.
Where Edwards/Hasselbeck compare
They aren't just similar in their first-year numbers, though those compare eerily well: Hasselbeck started 12 games in his first year in Seattle, completing 54.8% of his passes for 2,023 yards, 7 touchdowns and 8 interceptions, whereas Edwards, in his nine rookie starts, completed 56.1% of his throws for 1,630 yards and the same 7 touchdown to 8 interception ratio. Edwards was sacked much less (12 sacks as compared to 38), but Hasselbeck held the slight lead in yards per attempt (6.3 to 6.1).
No, these players compare well beyond the numbers as well. Neither was highly touted coming out of college, where Hasselbeck was a sixth round pick in 1998; Edwards a third-rounder in 2007. They're built similarly (both are 6'4", and Edwards, at 231 pounds, barely outweighs Hasselbeck at 225). Both are considered cerebral quarterbacks; Edwards was smart enough to keep his team in games as a green rookie, while Hasselbeck, with experience, has turned himself into one of the best readers of a defense in the entire league. Neither has the strongest arm in the world, though Hasselbeck's throws have a bit more zip to them. Hasselbeck is tougher - in the mold of Jim Kelly, to be quite honest - but Edwards isn't a cupcake either, playing the end of the '07 season with bruised ribs, a development which prompted him to add 15 pounds of muscle this past off-season.
The comparison is valid. Edwards has the ability, with enough experience, to produce and lead the way Hasselbeck has in Seattle. What he'll need to do to make that leap, however, is only partially in his control: he'll need consistency, and he'll need to become a better leader.
Where it may go wrong
Hasselbeck is one of the fieriest competitors in the league. He's bold, brave, and sometimes a little over the top (see his brash overtime prediction at the coin toss in a playoff loss to Green Bay). But he's a leader, both by example and by command, and the latter is an attribute that Edwards has yet to develop - and he may never do that. Edwards' biggest challenge in 2008 isn't reading defenses, it's winning over his teammates. Players have gotten behind young quarterbacks before in Buffalo. But it's been a while since those players have been true believers in their young leader.
Ultimately, what Edwards needs more than anything is the opportunity that Hasselbeck has been afforded. Hasselbeck has enjoyed the longevity of Holmgren in Seattle, even amidst rumors that he would be fired or retire, and even through some substandard seasons here and there. Holmgren gets the benefit of the doubt because of his reputation; Dick Jauron won't enjoy such luxury. There's more pressure on Edwards to succeed right away than there was on Hasselbeck, who had the backing of a proven head coach. Hopefully, this isn't Edwards' downfall.
Either way, the Edwards-Hasselbeck comparison is legitimate - and there are much worse situations that the Bills could be in. If the comparison turns out to manifest itself well for Buffalo down the road, and Edwards turns into something close to what Hasselbeck has been for Seattle, then we can count ourselves very lucky.
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Edwards is clearly Dick's guy
and I would be shocked if he pulled him anytime this season, barring injury or a blowout where he just wanted Hamden to knock off a little rust before the end of the game. He’ll treat Edwards just as he did Losman in Jauron’s first year here, giving him a full season, win or lose, to prove himself. We will consequently know a lot more about this young man four months from now than we do today.
Is he Hasselbeck? Probably not. He’s definitely not Kelly either; he can get hurt and probably will be (again) sometime this season. But you don’t need an All-Pro or Iron Man behind center to win. You need someone who can make good decisions quickly, manage the team on the field, take an occasional shot, even if it only stretches out the secondary, to let them know they have to defend the entire field. Edwards can do all that.
He’s smart, cerebral, even-tempered. He doesn’t rattle easily. I think this kid brings things to the table that aren’t easy for most football fans to identify. Maybe he brings enough to push his team into the playoffs and (gasp, dare I hope for it?), win a game there.
Brian you are quite right in identifying what we don’t know, which is if he can lead his team. But I like the preliminary indications thus far. We’ll get our first real indication on Sunday at the Ralph. Can’t wait.
by Defensewinsgames on Sep 3, 2008 10:11 AM EDT 0 recs
Is he Hasselbeck? Probably not.
Just curious, but why not? You don’t really provide a basis for that opinion. I think Edwards has a very good chance at developing into a Hasselbeck-like quarterback.
by Brian Galliford on
Sep 3, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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Just curious
How does Edwards compare with other QB’s like Brees or Garrard? Trent’s definitely not fiery like Hasselbeck, but I can appreciate the similarites between them.
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on Sep 3, 2008 10:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Do you mean statistically, with their first year as a starter? They’re fairly similar. Their completion percentage was higher than Edwards, but they weren’t playing in Buffalo weather. Both had more TDs, but also more INTs. Brees had a lot more yards than either of the other two, and Garrard was sacked more often than either.
It’s strange to see Hasselbeck be described as fiery. Sure, he’s competitive on the field, but off the field he’s much more low-key and laid back. There was a good story in SI a few years back, just before the 2005 NFC championship, he went out to dinner with his family… and nobody recognized him. He said that probably wouldn’t happen to Tom Brady even in Omaha, let alone his home town. I guess 30-year old prematurely bald men don’t seem like pro athletes to the average person… just ask Brian Moorman.
by Krenn on
Sep 3, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
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Hasselbeck IS fiery, though, in the only area it counts – on the field. He’s downright b@d@$$ on the field, as a matter of opinion. Edwards needs to channel some of that this season.
by Brian Galliford on
Sep 3, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
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Great Point About Winning Over Teammates
No matter what they say in public, teammates will turn on a guy if they don’t have faith. This league is all about close games and quarterbacks are the key to winning close games. You hear a lot of talk about “managing the game”, but ultimately what separates QBs is coming through in close games. If Trent executes well in the 4th quarter of some wins then he will have these guys. Our history is to lose close games. The culture changes when you win close games.
by MrFurious1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Key point: how much late-game freedom will be given to Edwards?
As I commented in an earlier post, I think a huge part of the fourth quarter results will be related to how much freedom Edwards will be given at the line by Schonert (and by extension Jauron). If he is given the freedom to cash in on at-the-line opportunities (and, of course, can deliver in those situations), then fourth quarters for the Bills will look entirely different.
That said, Jauron still has to let go of the prevent philosophy on defense. In close games, prevent defense rarely winds.
by thefourwinds on
Sep 3, 2008 1:31 PM EDT
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This year will tell the tale.
If he consistently makes strides, and brings this team together, and is clearly better Week 17 than Week 1, than we got something.
In 06, JP was better in week 12 or so, than week 1, but then was worse in the final two games than anytime before.
I would also like to see some fire from Trent. If he leads some comebacks and hypes up this team, I will be very pleased.
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on Sep 3, 2008 12:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Having a tough time buying all the bad press for Trent
If you take away (and I know you can’t) the Cleveland game 13-33 3.8 yds per pass, in a Blizzard and the Giant game 9-26 4.4 yds. per pass, in a hurricane wind like condition; Which in both he outpreformmed a pro bowler in Anderson and a Super Bowl MVP (and lost his coveted starting left tackle). These two games also accounted for 3 of his 8 interceptions.
His year was pretty darn good. He has shown that he can lead the Bills down the field in the 4th qtr. (Washington and yes Cleveland). He has shown that he can throw the deep ball (as much as some of you want to dispute that) and I believe that he has proven he can be a leader on this team. No, he is not Jim Kelly but there aren’t many of them out there but he is the best option and I think he will/should be in the top half of the QB’s in the NFL. The Bills are finally built defensively so the QB has to manage the game and not necessarily win it (thank God Triplett is gone). Trent has all the tools to do this GO BILLS!!!!!
by Honestabe75 on Sep 3, 2008 1:50 PM EDT 0 recs
Watching Trent last year, I thought that Hasselbeck was a good comparison. If he can turn out like him I would take that as my QB any day.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Sep 3, 2008 2:02 PM EDT 0 recs
totally agree.
I think the comparison is spot-on in a couple of ways. Statistically, I think Trent has the ability, at his best, to put up Hasselbeck-like numbers. I think we’ve all accepted that Trent’s not breaking out Manning or Brady type numbers at any point in his career, but a solid 3500, 20-25 TD, 10-15 INT is not out of the realm of possibility at all. And with the way we expect Lynch to run the ball over the next X number of years, the Bills could be a very successful team with Trent putting up those numbers. Seattle went to the Super Bowl with a solid Hasselbeck at QB, an at-his-prime Alexander at RB, a solid corps of wideouts with no real standout, and a very good, fast defense. I could see the Bills using that exact formula (Edwards, Lynch at-his-prime, Evans, Hardy, Parrish, Reed, and the defense.) to have further success down the road. Good read, Brian. Well thought out.
by nickfeely8 on
Sep 3, 2008 5:40 PM EDT
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I'll take a Hasselbeck clone, where do I sign us up for him to be one?
Heck, if Turk can turn Trent into the second coming of Boomer Esiason I’ll be really happy. Please, just get us someone who can lead, is consistently good, and won’t cost us games with poor judgement and suffer from brain cramps when the pressure is on!
Fear the mighty helmet wearing gopher, he is coming for your soul....
by WABillsfan on
Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT
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Winning this game will...
Be critical to the growth of Trent Edwards. It will get the other leaders, particularly Donte and Lee, to say hey we got something here. The rest of the team will hitch up the “let’s see how long we can keep up this winning thing” wagon and finally watch Losman through the rear view mirror.
by the Skycap on Sep 3, 2008 4:17 PM EDT 0 recs
















