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State of the Bills Roster: Outside Linebackers


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The "State of the Bills Roster" series trucks on! If you're new around these parts within the past nine months or so, this series is an off-season progression of posts in which we'll break down Buffalo's roster in-depth. From these discussions, we'll put together a "Community Needs List" in priority order, then begin researching potential free agent and draft acquisitions that will satisfy all of the Bills' needs as we perceive them.

We continue our foray into heavy-duty off-season work at Buffalo Rumblings right now. It's our "State of the Roster" series, off-season mode, and we'll continue the discussions by breaking down the Bills' situation at outside linebacker, a position that is still an area of need for the Bills.
  Previous installments: QB :: RB :: TE :: WR :: OT :: G/C :: DE :: DT :: OLB
  New: Prioritized Offensive Needs List

Opening statement
When LB Angelo Crowell was placed on IR prior to the start of the 2008 regular season, Buffalo's linebacker depth - bolstered by the off-season acquisition of Kawika Mitchell - was suddenly back where it had been at the end of the 2007 season. Now, with Crowell an unrestricted free agent and unlikely to return, the Bills must once again look for a starter at this position - and a little depth wouldn't hurt, either.

#59 Kawika Mitchell (starter, weak side)
  6'1", 253 pounds
  Age: 30 in October 2009
  Contract status: 4 years remaining (UFA after 2012); owed $9.7M in base salaries.
- Mitchell had a roller-coaster season as Buffalo's starting weak-side linebacker. There were games in which he was dominant, such as the season opening win against Seattle and in a Week 7 victory over San Diego in which he provided a sack and the game-clinching interception. There were also games where his tackling resembled the respectable work done by matadors. Of course, even when he was down, it was hard to complain about Mitchell, mostly because his 82 tackles, 4 sacks, 2 interceptions, 2 forced fumbles and 3 passes defended made him Buffalo's most consistent defensive playmaker this year. He needs to play consistently next season; if he does, he's going to be very good.

#56 Keith Ellison (starter, strong side)
  6'0", 228 pounds
  Age: 25 in February 2009
  Contract status: Restricted Free Agent.
- I have a pretty healthy respect for Keith Ellison, because despite being one of the most physically overmatched linebackers in today's NFL, he very rarely makes mistakes. It's like watching Mark Kelso play linebacker for the Bills, except without the interceptions and the cool helmet padding. As a restricted free agent and a favorite of the coaching staff, the chances that Ellison is signed - maybe even to a lengthy extension - are quite good. That said, there's no way this guy should be a starter in the NFL. Not on a serious contender, anyway.

#55 Angelo Crowell
  6'1", 243 pounds
  Age: 28 in August 2009
  Contract status: Unrestricted Free Agent.
- Make no mistake about it, Crowell has fallen out of favor with the coaching staff in possible. Don't make the mistake, however, of thinking that will prevent Crowell from re-signing in Buffalo. Depending on who in Ralph Wilson's vaunted "inner circle" is now making final football decisions, there will always be a chance that Crowell returns. If Dick Jauron has his way, however, Crowell will walk, and the Bills will be looking for a replacement on the outside.

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#50 Alvin Bowen
  6'2", 222 pounds
  Age: 26 in December 2009
  Contract status: 3 years remaining (UFA after 2011); owed $1.355M in base salaries.
- Bowen's rookie season was over before it began when he tore up his knee during an early training camp practice. Buffalo likes his speed, versatility and special teams prowess, but it's never wise to count on a 26-year-old second-year player with no experience to be a contributor. He should make next year's team, but he's got a lot to prove.

#57 Jon Corto
  6'1", 208 pounds
  Age: 25 on 1/1/09
  Contract status: 1 year remaining (UFA after 2009); owed $385K in base salary.
- The converted safety was one of Buffalo's best special teams players last season, but he also dealt with injuries while making the transition to linebacker. He's definitely a guy who might stick on Buffalo's roster in 2009, but he isn't solid linebacker depth.

#54 Blake Costanzo
  6'2", 235 pounds
  Age: 25 in April 2009
  Contract status: Restricted Free Agent.
- Costanzo is Buffalo's most relentless special teams demon. But that has less to do with talent than it does simply having a job; Costanzo is a fringe NFL player whose only contributions will likely ever be in the special teams department. As Buffalo's best - yes, best - kick coverage man, he'll be in training camp next season, but he's not a lock to make the roster.

#53 Marcus Buggs
  5'11", 225 pounds
  Age: 24 in September 2009
  Contract status: 1 year remaining (ERFA after 2009); owed $385K in base salary.
- Oh, look - another undersized reserve linebacker whose specialty is special teams. Buggs wasn't outstanding either in the pre-season or when he was on the active roster last year, but he has enough raw potential to land back on Buffalo's practice squad next year.

The Breakdown
Keepers: Mitchell, Bowen. Mitchell is obvious. Bowen still has to prove himself, but his special teams potential is through the roof.

Extendables: Ellison. Never underestimate the value of smart, versatile reserves that can play all three linebacker positions. Especially when that player can also play special teams very well.

Expendables: Costanzo, Corto, Buggs. I sang the praises of the special teams ability of all three of these guys, but at some point, Buffalo's reserve linebackers need to contribute something. Maybe one of these guys sticks around - and if they do, I'm pulling for Costanzo - but I'm not going to be upset if none of them return next season.

Questionables: Crowell. There are a lot of folks who want Crowell to be re-signed, but I'll re-iterate for the umpteenth time that if Jauron has anything to say about it, it's not likely to happen - and that's not a bad thing. We can certainly do better than Angelo Crowell, folks. Still, bringing him back does make a degree of sense, and he's clearly an upgrade over Ellison in the starting lineup.

What we need: Not much, considering the results of yesterday's polling. This community voted in an overwhelming majority that, at an absolute minimum, moving Paul Posluszny to the outside should be a serious consideration. So we'll keep it at that for now - a consideration. Over the past two days we've listed five linebackers as "keepers" for the Bills; that leaves one or two spots to fill this off-season. We'll keep them as generic linebacker spots for now, and we'll re-assess when we start naming names of available talent this off-season.

That's it. I'm done with the easy stuff. Now it's on you, folks. How serious do you think Buffalo's interest in Crowell is? Is Posluszny the answer to our woes at outside linebacker? What type of linebacker should we be looking for as our third starter or as reserves? Have fun with this, and let's get brainstorming.

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Regarding Poz our head coach should have a heart to heart with him. The conversation would go something like this. DJ – Poz, you have ben playing MLB now for two years like we asked you to do. In college you played OLB and seemed to do very well there. We were thinking that OLB might be a more comfortable/natural position for you. If that were to happen we would ask you to play on the strong side. Everyone has a most natural fit so don’t tell us anywhere is ok. Think about it and let’s talk again.

If he said he would like to move, then by all means do it. If he says he is fine at MLB, then we go looking for an OLB. Let him be a big part of the decision. Now this may seem like common sense (to me it does) but you never know whether such communication is actually practiced. Another way of looking at it is to say – don’t just impose a scheme, put a scheme together that takes into account your players natural abilities. Get the most out of the scheme.

I do believe OBD will target a LB in free agency. Be interesting to see which way they go.

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by keuka121 on Jan 13, 2009 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

Wouldn't it be nice...

…if we had a coaching staff that knew what the hell to do and didn’t benefit from this type of consul from their players.

don’t just impose a scheme, put a scheme together that takes into account your players natural abilities

A truer statement can’t be found. If the kid is better at OLB and OBD can manufacture a viable alternative at MLB, then make the switch. They don’t need a permission slip from Poz and frankly, I’m not sure he really cares as long as he is is playing and helping his team the best way possible. If Crowell isn’t signed—as he should be—then the flavor of FA LB the Bills acquire may dictate where Poz goes. And regardless of his “Rudy-esque” pro career, Ellison should not be in the week one starting line-up.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Jan 13, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t expect any changes. If we haven’t seen any adjustments and tailoring of schemes to fit our players by now, it won’t be happening.

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 13, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

True…their bias is getting players to fit their scheme. Puts more pressure on the front office to find not only talented players, but the right pieces for the scheme. Not to say they wouldn’t have to do so anyway, but there seems to be less flexibility on the coaching side…particularly on defense. Marv Levy used to say something to effect that players win championships, not systems. Seems like the Bills have been painting themselves into a tight corner personnel wise. Nevertheless, there is something to be said for sticking to your strategy.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Jan 13, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure

on Crowell. I really have no reason to believe he can’t return to form and be the sideline to sideline guy making plays that we have seen. I think for the price, its hard to argue with Crowell. He knows the system. Its just is he a bad “egg” or what’s the real story? I think for the quickest fix a FA LB is needed because it shortens our needs list when they enter the draft. You don’t want to “COUNT” on any of your rookies. However, the more I study and read of Everette Brown, he does have some great talent and I see why Kurupt loves him. I love Brandon Spikes and of course Gresham. But this is an OLB story, so in summary having Mitchell, Crowell, Ellison as a backup with Bowen, I think you are in good shape. You can’t count on Corto or Costanzo to actually ever see the field.

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 13, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

I think Crowell rubs the staff the wrong way, in addition to their belief that he’s not as good as many seem to think. Are his instincts that good? Are they comfortable trusting him? Will he even be fully healthy again? I wouldn’t mind Crowell back, but it sure seems that the coaches don’t. I do have questions about whether his knee would allow him to return to form, and I don’t want those questions to end up with Ellison starting again….

I think Spikes is returning to school. At least that’s the what’ I’ve read so far.

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 13, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand this attitude at all
We can certainly do better than Angelo Crowell, folks.

Oh, really? Why? Because we have so few holes at other positions that we can just let a relatively cost effective and by far most productive linebacker statistically walk? Or is it because we have so much money that we can afford to bring in talent at DE, LB, C, WR, TE, FB, and FS all in one off-season?

I simply don’t understand this line of thinking Brian. At the most we can get 2 starters out of our draft picks, at the most. That leaves five other positions of need, four if you like Bryan Scott which I do. Everyone here knows we are not going to bring in four starting caliber free agents.

If we keep Crowell we can at least sign a veteran center or defensive end and a fullback and draft starting caliber defensive end or center and tight end. Without Crowell our 1st round selection debate and our free agent signing debate become a four horse race between LB, TE, C, and DE. I’d rather have less needs as opposed to more to fill.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 13, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

You misinterpret me. Read it like “We can certainly do better than Angelo Crowell if we want to, folks.”

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

ah, this makes more sense

I see, I see. Well in that case, I will make my stance clear that I do not want to unless we know definitely that his injury has reduced his physical abilities.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 13, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't we want to?

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 13, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I certainly do, but clearly, poz doesn’t. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Am i the only one?

Crowell supporters make yourselves heard!!!

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 13, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I support Crowell

assuming we don’t go after a better player. If we don’t go after a better LB in FA, we sure as he** better be going after a FA C, Safety and WR….I just don’t see how this staff brings Crowell back though.

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 13, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I could be happy with Crowell for a year or two

But if Brian says he won’t be back if Jauron gets his way, I tend to believe him. Inside info and all ya know!

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by Joe P. on Jan 13, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Realism

If OBD wants POZa t MLB then in FA there is no 4-3 OLB who will deliver more next year than Crowell. So sign him.

That being said we still need to deraft another OLB with better size/speed than the munchkins we have now at backup as we will be in the same boat with another injury.

by freddyjj on Jan 14, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you have the whole Crowell situation right...

I too think that the FO is open to bringing Crowell back, and he really hit a sour note with the coaching staff with his actions at the beginning of the year. It’ll be interesting to see which side has more pull with Jauron on the hot seat now. In reality, Crowell will be a bargain because he won’t likely get much money coming off of surgery. He’s a veteran presence and would take one more need off of the list.

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by evdawg419 on Jan 13, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

Good point

Who will have more pull? If Crowell is back, it’s pretty obvious Jauron’s power is dwindling….I think

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 13, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

i think though

I honestly feel this way that Jauron realizes he has to take a few more chances this season even if that means signing guys that don’t fit his “A” list of high-character guys….I know some of you will say the same old, same old will happen, but Jauron is human….he wants to win…..he is a competitor. I think he realizes he needs to push the FO to sign guys in FA, and maybe shake things up via trades in the draft to do whatever he can to get the personnel he feels he is short on to really make this happen in 2009. So that said, I think if they feel Crowell is 100% and can still play, it makes perfect sense to bring him back, deal with any “issues” he brings, so they have more time and resources to fill other needs via FA and the draft

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 13, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

We do have to shake it up differently this offseason. Whether that’s a trade, some FA signings, a character question or two being brought in, or trading future draft picks, we really can’t just sign 2 FA’s and roll with our draft picks. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. I’m hopeful, but I’m not.

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 13, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

They make 1 Ted Washington?

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 13, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Or 1/2 a Mike Williams…who must be filling out nicely compared to his svelte NFL playing days.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Jan 13, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

My thoughs on moving Poz

Since I missed out on the discussion yesturday…

Put me in the camp that believes Poz would be a much better outside linebacker (not to say that he isn’t a good inside linebacker). I make this assumption for a number of reasons. First, Poz played all of his college ball at WLB at Penn State, with the exception of his senior year, where personnel dictated his need to move inside. In the NFL draft he was projected at outside linebacker, and after Buffalo drafted him in the second round, many thought that’s where he’d play. However, because of his versatility, intelligence and leadership ability, the coaching staff asked Poz to play in the middle. Of course, two seasons later, that’s where he is today. Second, Poz is a natural fit at outside linebacker. He moves very well side-to-side, has great instincts, and is strong in run support. His weaknesses (if you can call them that), are his range in pass coverage and his tendency to be engulfed by larger linemen (because of his size). As a middle linebacker in the cover-2 defense, these weaknesses can be exploited; not only is Poz responsible for covering the deep middle of the field, he is also required to take on multiple blockers in the run game. On the outside, especially on the weak side, the negative effects of these weaknesses would me minimized. He would have much less of the field to cover in the passing game, and for the large part, would be free to use his stellar instincts to make plays in the run game.

All that said, when I look at the available talent in free agency and the state of the Bills roster, I think it may be wise keeping Poz in the middle. By no means is he as bad MLB, in fact, he has the potential to be very good there. He’s had a year of starting experience at the position and is entrenched as the play-caller or “quarterback” of the defense. A move to a different position may stunt his growth. In addition, aside from Ray Lewis and Jonathan Vilma (and most likely not even them), there is slim pickings in the market for middle linebackers. In contrast, there are handful of guys out there that can make an immediate impact on the outside.

John I.

by jri111 on Jan 13, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

working on that...

working on that for a series we are going to do later in the off-season. I elected to take most of the potential linebackers, because I like analyzing them. That said, I still have a lot of research to do, and hopefully I can find the time! Here is my break down of potential free agent linebackers.

If you want to see something funny, check out my LB analysis from the 2006 Draft (the draft we took Poz)

John I.

by jri111 on Jan 13, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Costanzo

Using Bobby April’s stats, Costanzo is the second-best player on kick coverage, just after Wendling. That’s a good reason to think he will stick around.

by Krenn on Jan 13, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

Just the best

i don’t care if its inside or outside; just get the best LB available, through the draft or otherwise.
If we go outside, keep Poz inside. Or if we are able to get an awesome inside guy, throw poz outside, but only if said LB is of elite status. We need an upgrade. I think Mitchell is good, but he should not be a team’s best LB if we are to have a real top 10 defense, something that will be hard to come by given our schedule.

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Jan 13, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

I feel that the

OLB on the strong side also needs to be an above average pass rusher/blitzer. I know we don’t run a 4-3, but having versatility of Mitchell or strongside backer of both being able to attack the QB is something we desperately need.

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 13, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

I think there will be this offseason

A three horse race for our starting OLB spot between the following:
Leroy Hill
Angelo Crowell
Micheal Boley

  • Full disclosure, I voted to keep Poz in the middle since FA for LBers is heavy in OLBs and NOT MLBs.*

All three guys are about the same as far as playing ability, and price. If Crowell comes back it will be for 2 reasons:
1- The FO thinks he is healthy and the most reasonable expense and it may be a 2 year “prove it” deal.
2- The Coaching staff bites it’s collective tongue to keep a guy who knows the team and scheme to reduce the amount of training a new FA would require.

If we see Boley or Hill brought in, who should cost about the same as Crowell would season to season over a contract this offseason, we know then that either DJ still has a ton of pull, or that the FO is concerned as well.

Overall though, I think LBer will be all FA, with maybe a late round draftee brought in to bolster depth and STs. I think our LB depth chart looks like so this fall:
SLB- Crowell/Hill/Boley
MLB- Poz
WLB- Mitchell
Guranteed Backups- DiGi, Ellison, Bowen
Maybes- Costanzo, Corto or Draftee will be the last man onto the roster
PS- Buggs (probably)

Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?

by WABillsfan on Jan 13, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

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