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Assessing the Potential Free Agent Safeties

 Opening Statement:  Safety is a position that has been - for the most part - overlooked by many Bills fans early this offseason, most likely because of the numerous other glaring needs, including center, defensive end, tight end and linebacker (after three years of Dick Juaron, shouldn't there be less holes each year - not more?!).  Whitner is a solid starter, but has failed to live up to expectations as the number 8 overall draft pick in the 2006 draft.  Bryan Scott has been a journeyman for most of his career, before having a couple of nice seasons with Buffalo.  He'd be a serviceable starter, but there is definitely room for improvement.  Ko Simpson has done nothing for me and his latest antics ("I'm worth millions!") hasn't helped his standing with the team.  The "others," George Wilson and John Wendling aren't much to speak of in terms of starting material.  With that in mind, here's a look at some of the potential free agent safeties in 2009:

 

O.J. Atogwe (SS - St. Louis)

Measurables:  5-11, 210 Pounds, 28 years old

2008 Stats:  85 tackles, 6 forced fumbles, and 5 interceptions

Availability:  St. Louis wants to retain him and he is a candidate for the franchise tag    

One (or a few) things to know:  Has 13 interceptions in past two seasons.  Takes a lot of gambles, but they pay off more then they fail.

ESPN Scouting Report: He is an adequate overall athlete with good size and adequate speed. He has adequate foot quickness in his pedal to gain depth. He doesn't show much burst in transition or when making the flip. After he clears his hips, he has good acceleration and straight-line speed. He looks better on the move than with making transitions and flips. He shows good ability to close after changing direction, but he does stall some when redirecting and takes extra steps. If he's forced to make multiple speed turns, he tends to drift and will lose his footing. His angles are adequate. Good route runners who can bend and sell the route are able to get him to open his hips. He shows good quickness and body control with short-area, man-to-man responsibilities. He is also an effective blitzer who closes fast and usually times it up well. In run support, he shows inconsistent reactions. He tends to get locked on his first read and angles are inconsistent. A good stiff arm can be effective against him because he gets upright. When in chase he has straight line speed and can cover ground once he opens his stride.

 

Mike Brown (FS - Chicago)

Measurables:  5-11, 207 pounds, 31 years old

2008 Stats:  73 tackles, 0 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions

Availability:  Because of injury concerns (see below) he may be available.  Teams will be cautious not to give him too much money - or too long of a deal.

One (or a few) things to know:   Has suffered through multiple injuries over the years.   He did play 15 games in 2008, but was placed on IR at the end of the season.   He did play in year pro who has played his entire career in Chicago.

ESPN Scouting Report: Brown is going into his ninth season and, when healthy, he is one of the most instinctive and active safeties in the league. He has average size, but good athleticism and functional strength. His intelligence and instincts are excellent. His ability to make adjustments and get his teammates aligned is outstanding. Brown can read and react effectively with the ability to fill quickly in run support or well as leverage receivers versus the pass. He shows great ability to jump routes and his anticipation and effectiveness at reading route progressions enables him to play faster than he is. He shows power on contact when tackling. He is best is zone-coverage out of centerfield, but can be effective in combination-man schemes. Brown is a good football player who has obvious durability issues, but is an impact player on the Bears' defense.

 

Renaldo Hill (S - Miami)

Measurables: 5-11, 205 pounds, 30 years old

2008 Stats:  77 tackles, 0 forced fumbles, 3 interceptions

Availability:  Miami may let him walk.

One (or a few) things to know:  He has played for 3 different teams in his 8 year career.  He has career 15 interceptions. 

ESPN Scouting Report: Hill is an undersized safety who has good athleticism. He had been a durable player prior to 2007, when he had a season-ending injury. He is a hard-nosed player who is active and fills the alley quickly. He is an athletic player who keeps leverage with body control, technique and instincts. He uses his hands well to stay active to the pile. Hill is a smart player who is versatile to line up in the box, off the hash or as a nickel defender. He is best in combination-man or zone schemes, but may be a liability in pure man coverage. He runs well, but is an explosive athlete who can make up ground when out of position. He reacts well to break points and maintains leverage on receivers with a solid peddle and confidence in his short-area quickness. He is a competitive player who will square up in a crease, but isn't as physical as many safeties in the league. He brings depth and versatility to the Dolphins' secondary.

 

Sean Jones (SS - Cleveland)

Measurables:  6-1, 220 pounds, 27 years old

2008 Stats:  56 tackles, 1 forced fumble, 4 interceptions

Availability: He wants to remain a Brown, but doesn't know what the future holds

One (or a few) things to know:  In his 4 year career he has 14 interceptions (0, 5, 4, 5, respectfully). 

ESPN Scouting Report: Jones is the Browns' starting strong safety. He is big, physical and talented. His season was somewhat up and down in 2007, but he really put himself on the map in 2006 as an impact player. Too many tight ends got behind Jones last season, particularly early in the season, but he remains a formidable starter in this league. While 2007 was somewhat of a down year for Jones, he is still a very consistent producer and one of the more productive safeties in the NFL over the past two seasons. He produces a lot of tackles as an extra defender in the box and intercepts more than his share of passes with excellent anticipation and soft hands. As strong safeties go, Jones has good range and isn't a liability when asked to cover a deep half of the field, but his deep ball skills are still a work in progress. He is an enforcer who hits with power. Against the run, he is an immediate force, but can be too aggressive when dealing with play-action. He also blitzes well. Mentally, Jones is still a work in progress, but from a size, speed and production standpoint, he is impressive and his best work might still be ahead of him.

 

Jermaine Phillips (SS - Tampa Bay)

Measurables:  6'2, 220 pounds, will be 30 years old)

2008 Stats:  59 tackles, 1 forced fumble, 3 interceptions

Availability:  He would "love" to return to the Bucs, but Tampa Bay could decided to go the cheaper route and go with the younger Sabby Piscitelli. 

One (or a few) things to know:  Has spent his 7 year career in Tampa.  He has 11 career interceptions, but 7 of those 11 have been in the past two seasons.

ESPN's Scouting Report: Phillips has excellent size for the position, but has struggled to stay healthy for a whole season. He is more effective the closer he lines up to the line of scrimmage. He can struggle in deep zones and is a little slow to react and break on the ball. He is just adequate in transition and tends to take extra steps to get realigned and to drive on the ball. He shows decent route recognition and does a good job of reading the quarterback's eyes to get a jump on the ball. He plays with good leverage on the ball and does a good job of coming downhill to make plays at, or close to, the line of scrimmage. He seems to be improving in his open-field tackling skills. He is aggressive in run support and will insert himself with abandon. While he is not an elite strong safety, he has become an adequate starter who does more than just carry his own weight in the secondary.

 

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If the Bills had taken Kenny Phillips last year, this wouldn’t be an issue.

I guess If I’m taking anybody from this list it would be Phillips.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 15, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like Brown a lot

He’s a little older and has some injury concerns (which means he would probably be more affordable), but his skill set seems to fit in well with what the bills need: Good in zone, makes plays. Would allow Whitner to stay near the box more.

John I.

by jri111 on Jan 15, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Phillips

Kenny had a pretty good first season (64 tackles, 1 INT). I was a fan of his last year.

John I.

by jri111 on Jan 15, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thats why I said that. I remember you making a case for him with the 11th pick.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 15, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha...

Yeah, i took him for Buffalo in one of the mock drafts we did! Not complaining about McKelvin though, he was a good pick. Phillips went what, 31 to the Giants? So he would have been a little early at 11…

John I.

by jri111 on Jan 15, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Dawkins is going to be a free agent.

Surely he belongs on the list, too.

Rotoworld says 3 mil a year would likely get him back to Philly. Could we offer him more than that and/or would he take it? He is 35 but he could be serviceable for a year or two ala Lawyer Milloy and Troy Vincent.

HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6’0’ / 210
75 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 INt, 1 Fumble Recovery, 6 forced fumbles

the last number stands out to me…. 6 forced fumbles!!!!!

Playing Eternal Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 15, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i’m on the Brian Dawkins bandwagon

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 16, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really don't see the Bills addressing the safety position in free agency...

I think the FO is comfortable with the current situation and if anything will draft a project in the later rounds or a no name depth player in free agency. We have too many bigger needs to spend big money on a major free agent at this position.

Don't forget to pay the troll toll...

by evdawg419 on Jan 15, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sean Jones

Best of the bunch.

Would be a great addition.

If I were to make a guarantee about the Bills this offseason, it would be about safety. As in, they’re going to stick with the mediocre talents they already have.

Any of the above would be a significant upgrade to Whitner.

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 16, 2009 12:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Couple More prospects

Kerry Rhodes and Abraham Elam from the Jets are up for grabs too. Rhodes is an impact player and Elam is a Bills Killer

Both can and have played play SS. I Like Rhodes. 6’3" 220lbs and can bring it on the blitz. can also play FS and is not a liability in deep coverage.
Grade: 78 | Key
Alert: None

Comment: Rhodes is coming off his third year in the league and had his least productive season as a run-defender, but one of his best as a ball-hawking safety. He was used more as a deep safety last season rather than in the box blitzing on different packages. He is an excellent combination of size, strength and athleticism. He is an active player who has great vision and anticipates well to make plays on or off the hash. He has a decent peddle for his height while maintaining pad level and body position well to react quickly out of his plant. Rhodes runs well and shows great range in coverage as well as filling the alley. He isn’t an explosive player, but has improved as a tackler. He has been more consistent to wrap up in the open field, but isn’t always physical for a safety of his stature. Rhodes leverages the ball well and takes proper angles. He reads route progressions well and has a great feel for break points and jumping patterns. Rhodes has the size and talent to continue to develop his overall game and should have a long productive career.

Elam

Grade: 58 | Key
Alert: None

Comment: Elam is a second-year player who has good size and above-average athletic ability. He plays off the hash or up in the box because the Jets like to disguise their coverages with lots of movement by their safeties. He has an average peddle and appears to have just an above-average burst to close off the hash. He is at his best coming downhill as a run-support defender. He doesn’t have great lateral agility or quickness and will overextend at times in space. He has good power and pop on contact and is a sure tackler in a restricted area. Elam is a solid reactor reading route progressions and leveraging receivers. He is effective in short and intermediate-zone coverages, but can be a liability in pure man schemes. He needs to develop his blitz moves and counters because the Jets like to put eight in the box and bring pressure. He appears to be somewhat one-dimensional because he rarely makes many plays in the passing game. Elam must continue to develop and expand his overall game to be a consistent contributor.

btw, the dude from the Rams is a FS not a SS.

by freddyjj on Jan 16, 2009 8:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brown

gotta think the DJ connection with Brown in Chi town would have an impact here…..but being how injured Brown is, it probably isn’t worth the risk. I would to see an upgrade here on the back end, especially if we get a healthy Schobel and other DE help this off-season, and Chris Ellis works his tail off this off-season

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 16, 2009 9:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

pass rush=better secondary

I think the lack of safety interceptions and poor pass defense can be directly related to our horrible pass rush the past few years. Look at the Dallas game 2 years ago-we got pressure and force 5 picks (hell George Wilson even had one). Fixing the pass rush should be our priority and main goal this offseason. What NFL quarterback isn’t going to be able to pick apart a defense if he has all day to throw?

Don't forget to pay the troll toll...

by evdawg419 on Jan 16, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow

how can you all sit here and criticize Donte Whitner as a bust and not realize that to want to get rid of him or even to keep him but label him a bust is turning into a mob mentality. He is 24 years old. The youngest guy on this list is 27.

O.J. Atogwe was considered a LIABILITY who couldn’t tackle to save his life on the Rams defense until 2007 when he nabbed 8 picks. He is 28 years old. That means it wasn’t until he was 26 that he was considered any good. If St.Louis had given up on Atogwe the way you all have given up on Whitner they wouldn’t have had him at all.

Renaldo Hill stinks. If you guys think Donte is bad you don’t want Hill. He’s only reached 80 total tackles TWICE in his long career and his 3 picks this year were a fluke not the norm. He typically has one pick a year. No thanks. I’d much rather keep giving Bryan Scott opportunities than Hill.

Mike Brown is ALWAYS injured and old. Why would you sign a guy to replace Scott when Scott would just be starting when he goes down. NEXT.

Jermaine Phillips looks real good on paper but he has played his whole career in Monte Kiffin’s system and on a defense in which he is surrounded by All-Pro talent at almost every other position. His numbers were good, not great, in that system. I would expect a significant drop off were he to play in Buffalo.

Sean Jones, the only man on this list that I like. He has been producing since the age of 24 which also happened to be his first year starting full time. That says a lot. He plays on a terrible defense and if the Browns are stupid enough to let him go we should grab him in a heartbeat.

 Jones is the only man on this list, and Brian Dawkins would be the man not on the list, who actually qualifies as an upgrade over Whitner. Atogwe qualifies as an upgrade over Scott. Outside of that, many of these guys don’t make our safety positions any better.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 16, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, well, Ashton Youboty was a bust last year at this time, too, remember?

You’re right. He’s a young guy. He obviously needs to start playing better, but to label him a “bust” is WAY premature.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 16, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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