Lets look at the 2006 NFL draft
by Rudy916 on Jan 29, 2009 9:01 PM EST
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Below are draft results along with my opinion. For some reason I remember that this class was a downer year opposed to previous years (maybe someone can find a quote whether I remembered that correctly) or lacked enough talent to actually make all picks worthy of the 1st rd selection. Using the scale of " Great, above average, starter, or bust pick".
Overall I dont think the bills did horrible considering the impact of all players in this draft. It was the wrong 1st rd for a Safety. But maybe they emphasized a player/leader to start the rebuild of the franchise. I know this is the same OBD that tabs Kelsey as a leader as well. But, OBD also finished this draft well with two more starters.
I remember being optimistic about the player I wanted the bills to select out to this draft. I wanted N. Mangold, though I knew we needed to trade down before selecting him. I do remember that before the selections took place, that there really wasnt alot of players that made me salivate at 8th overall. All of the big players would be gone. I was hoping for AJ Hawk or V. Davis, but really wanted Mangold out of all of the players.
Well let me have......am I off my rocker or actually in the majority with my opinions.
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I’m not sure how Nick Mangold is “above average,” when he’s going to the Pro Bowl.
Or how Marcedes Lewis is a bust when he’s a starter but Huff is a starter when he’s been benched.
I wouldn’t consider Maroney a starter yet either, he’s only started 9 out of 30 games in his career.
Manny Lawson has been a starter for the majority of his short career too and only has 1 less INT and 1 less PDef than Whitner despite playing LB and missing 16 games.
Kelly Jennings was also benched so he’s definitely not “above average.”
Tye Hill has been a starter when healthy and his stats are comparable to Whitner’s.
All in all I think you need to come up with a better classification system. There’s too much gray area.
by twoeightnine on Jan 29, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maroney ???
Laurence Maroney – He is a burst in my oppinion. The guy is made of glass
I think kiwanuka was a good pick too. At least this season he was good
by hightower_mc on Jan 30, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Be careful where you say that....
There’s this whole post devoted to how great the Pats have drafted over the last five first rounds and they include Maroney as a good player….
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 30, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Months ago I posted on here how if you look at our drafting over the last five years and their’s we have actually been more successful at finding talent. It is such a myth that the Pats are great drafters its absurd
Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.
by poz on Jan 31, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I should have used a better classification system
Basically I used the ideology that if the guy was hurt for a full season, he was knocked down in status. I guy can’t be a great pick if he has already missed one third of his career.
I will update with the stats I looked at on NFL.com to help you understand were my point of view originated from.
Jennings my not have been the greatest Corner (ie getting benched), but has had solid production as a pro.
Mangold is a very good center, but Linemen are very hard to judge. Making the probowl doent necessarily make someone a great pick (lots of guys make the probowl by name recognition, ie. Roy Williams DAL)
Lawson missed at 16 games to injury and had virtually no stats.
Mercedes Lewis was tough because TE are hard to judge, but he was drafted to be a pass catching TE and hasn’t lived up to that.
Would you rather win one superbowl or Lose four in a row? Which defines your teams place in history more ... 1yr wonder or Perennially 2nd best?
by Rudy916 on Jan 30, 2009 7:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You have to look at it subjectively.
If you’re going to judge like that then Whitner is a bust. His position in the draft would indicate that he was drafted to be playmaker. Third year linemen don’t get to the Pro Bowl on name recognition. Jennings was benched so his production can’t be solid.
by twoeightnine on Jan 30, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well then Maroney should be labeled as bust
he has only played in two-thirds of his team’s games, hasn’t he?
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 30, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt give weight to the position drafted
I only looked at the production the player provided to the team. Whitner can’t be bust because of the “production” he has provided, whitner has had better stats than Huff. If whitner was benched (which you need someone better on the depth chart to do this) then he would have been a bust. Being labeled a “starter” means that the draft pick actually plays, but no one is better on the team to replace him. Yes Maroney could have been labeled differently. Basically everyone has there opinions, I feel a “starter” out of a draft pick is better than a bust. Bust meaning the guy maybe shouldnt even make the roster.
Would you rather win one superbowl or Lose four in a row? Which defines your teams place in history more ... 1yr wonder or Perennially 2nd best?
by Rudy916 on Jan 30, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Objectively--what this is, is subjective
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on Jan 30, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's what I meant.
I need an new word a day calendar.
by twoeightnine on Jan 30, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2006 wasn't the Bills worst of the millenium
I know this is a post about 2006, but I think we need to stop laying the blame at the feet of the ’06 class.
2004 was the worst. Why? Simply because of 1 man: Losman – and not because he stinks now. Moving back into the 1st to grab him was a major setback. Plus, look at where Roethlisberger was taken. They could have manuvered to get him, and it’s quoted in places that Ben was their #1. Losman was suspect then, and was proof that Buffalo was worried and knew they dropped the ball by neglecting QB early.
Bottom line for me: IF this organization had been aggresive enough to get in position to draft Big Ben, then the entire organization is different. I think Donahoe is still in charge, and the public hasn’t run Mularky and his family out of town.
Now none of that changes Whitner’s play, but perhaps the coaching changes his production.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 30, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
There was a report last week that the Bills were in position to get Big Ben
On Schoop and the Bulldog, ESPN radio in Buffalo and Rochester, they said the Bills had a trade lined up with the Jaguars for big Ben but only if Williamson or WIllaims wasn’t there at 9. I think it was Reggie Williams was there so the Jags took him. TOo bad for us really.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 30, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
How come we’ve never heard this before?
Stupid Jags! haha
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by Kurupt on Jan 30, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Schoop and the Bulldog reported it this past week.
I don’t know if they were talking out of their butts or not.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 30, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I recall Big Ben not even being the hot QB in the draft, right? I know I read the morning after a piece on JP how he felt he was the best QB, having attributes that the others didn’t – and that he was out to prove those 20+ other teams wrong by passing on him.
Well he was right, he did have attributes those other QBs didn’t: nerves, tunnel vision, lack of decision-making…
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 30, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
zing!
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 30, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And a complete inability to feel the pass rush. See Jets game last season. And many more sacks.
everything goes better with a BIG MACK
by keuka121 on Jan 30, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His biggest lacking (because of a lack of talent): humility.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 3, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The worst draft pick (hire) in 06
Was Dick Jauron…and that is why we are where we are
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on Jan 30, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much, we could attribute it all the the Johnson experiment.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 30, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OBD also finished this draft well with two more starters.
Yea…but it’s the money wasted on the first round picks that kills the organization. The reason it’s so important that the guys you take in the first round are good is because you are paying them tons of money.
Donte Whitner does not deserve a five-year, $29 million contract. And John McCargo does not deserve a 5 year 8.6 million dollar contract. That is a lot of money that the Bills could have spent on better players to make this a better football team.
Despite my criticisms, I feel the Bills have drafted relatively well as of late (the past two years). I like the current coaching staff and think the Bills are building quite the team.
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.
- Plato
by buffaloboy90 on Feb 4, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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