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SURVEY SAYS: Angelo Crowell

The more you think about Buffalo's linebacker position the more apparent it becomes that it IS an issue and a serious position of need.Keith Ellison is a decent starter and won't hold the defense back, but after him the only depth to speak of is a rookie whom is recovering from a blown knee. So, even if you feel fine with Ellison in there, the Bills still need solid depth at the position. Enter Angelo Crowell. His re-addition to this team could shore up a huge question mark for the Bills and automatically allocate Ellison to back-up the outside spots.

 

However, if Crowell demands too much money (could go either way) he may not be rehired. So that leaves Buffalo the draft and free agency to possibly add a starter AND quality depth. I think it's clear that the best option is to re-sign Crowell for two reasons: it gives Buffalo instant stability at the position and more flexability in acquiring personnel. I know that's the best way to go, but a considerable part of me wants to pick up one of the impact linebackers in the draft... if Crowell is signed you can all but take those guys off the table.

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How would you like Buffalo to PRIMARILY address the LB position?
Free Agency
16 votes
Draft
11 votes
Re-sign Crowell
77 votes
We're fine at LB
0 votes

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resign him and take a player in the draft – probably 3rd

seems like a decent plan.

DE and C go 1st and 2nd rounds respectively

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by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what about TE?

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 5, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i’m still holding out for FA for a TE or later rounds.

unfortunately – not as high a priority in the first two rounds in my opinion

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by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

Crowell is still relatively young and should be 100% healthy, therefore he provides knowledge of the system as well as the impact we so desire. While Ellison is serviceable as a starter and has made considerable strides, he provides the most value as a backup.

by live6453 on Jan 5, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t even think Ellison is a serviceable backup – he’s too small to play – doesn’t shed blocks and when does he make plays? all season – maybe heard his name two or 3 times. cut him

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by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FA or Crowell….Same thing, technically. There are a number of FA LB’s that could come in and give us a boost this year, and I’d be more inclined to go that route than in the draft. LB can be a relatively cheap signing, as well.

A month ago I would have scoffed at resigning Crowell. Now, I’m actually behind it, though I think it’s unlikely.

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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dansby an option instead of Crowell.

Who would you rather have? i’m on the fence here………

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No brainer

Dansby

But he’d be a lot, A LOT, more expensive. Crowell is coming off major knee surgery and will have to prove he is 100% healthy and play at a high level before any team considers giving him a long term contract. With that said, I’d imagine his best bet is a 1 year, heavily incentive laden contract. Maybe 2 years. No team is going to give him a 4-5 year deal. I’d be more than willing to go that 1-2 year route, assuming he’s 100%. I just don’t think it’ll happen though.

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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i’ve wanted Dansby for a while – for whatever reason i didn’t take into consideration Crowell’s injury and his recovery time. getting up to game speed might take him 4 weeks even after camp and pre-season. plus easier for setbacks.

he’d be a good signing thats for sure

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but an expensive one

I’ll remain hopeful, but I doubt it happens. I’d love to have him though!

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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You left out trade

Not saying that he is the best available but a guy like Mike Peterson who had a bit of a tiff with his coach this year could be available via trade. If he could be had for say a 5th or 6th rounder he could be a very attractive option.

I’d have to look but there could be other vets that could be had for a low round pick.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 12:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Peterson is a FA

He’s a MLB though, so we’d have to move him to the outside or Poz out there….

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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is he a FA?

I thought I had heard when all that junk went down that he was still under contract for next year. Oh well. There could still be some vets to be had via trade.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why is John DiGiorgio not viable depth, but Alvin Bowen is?

Unless you meant outside linebacker…

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Because

DiGi is a liability when in the game. Alvin Bowen hasn’t played yet and I said he is a question mark. DiGi though is awful… he is just not capable of holding down theposition, inside or outside.

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by ForeignArrow on Jan 5, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

too small and cannot shed blocks – basically Ellison.

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, he didn't

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by ForeignArrow on Jan 5, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he held the spot, but wasn’t exactly great or anything. He was competent, but I think he’s a ST’er and 5th LB at best…

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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow – can honestly say I’ve never seen a former UDFA who picked up 113 tackles in his second season in the league referred to as a “liability”.

DiGiorgio, to me, is a tougher, less intelligent (read: versatile) Keith Ellison that’s a great player on special teams. He can play in stretches. That’s EXACTLY what I’m looking for in a reserve linebacker.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

reserve yes – starter – oh hell no

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure thing. But we were talking about reserves to begin with, and that’s where I disagree with Arrow…

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hes a liability as a lb

there have been numerous instances when he would over run the play or completely miss his assignment and the opposing o would exploit it for big gains.

by billsstein on Jan 5, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to be picky, but if that’s your criteria for being a liability, then you can add every Bills defender to your liability list.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any arguments there?

:)

~K
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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s trade Poz, draft Maualuga and resign Crowell. Then we’d have an elite LB corps that overruns plays and gets caught out of position too often.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Jan 5, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ANY

MLB can pick 113 tackles just by being on the field. Brian Urlacher had 93 tackles this season. I liked DiGi, but he does a horrible job in coverage and making open field tackles… the two most important things for LB’s in our scheme. At least Keith Ellison does both of those well. But how is a guy who can’t shed blocks, make open field tackles, or cover anyone NOT a liability?

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by ForeignArrow on Jan 5, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess my viewpoint is different in that I believe we haven’t seen the best DiGiorgio has to offer. He hasn’t shown the ability to shed blocks because he had freakin’ Larry Tripplett in front of him. I’ve seen him make open-field tackles, particularly in last year’s Cowboys game (not that those overshadow the ones he’s missed).

I just don’t view DiGiorgio as a liability. I don’t think he’s starter material, but I like his odds in a pinch, and I REALLY like his special teams ability. I think he’s fine as a #5 linebacker.

Ideally, I’d have three starters, Ellison backing up at all 3 spots, and DiGiorgio as insurance.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So your logic is DiGi had 20 MORE tackles than BRIAN FREAKIN URLACHER and therefore any MLB can pick up 113 tackles?

Digi had 107 of those tackles in the 14 games after Poz got hurt, so that is really like a 122 tackle season as a full time starter. If any MLB can get that many tackles, why don’t they?

Despite not being the starter until week 2.5 last year there were only 14 MLBs who had more tackles. There were 15 this year. If Digi is that much of a liability, why aren’t there 30 MLBs who end up with more tackles?

Nobody here is going to preach the greatness of John DiGiorgio, but if you can name 5 backup middle linebackers who are better than he is, I will be pretty surprised.

by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the logic is...

that the # of tackles a guy has is not a great metric of how good he is or how well he filled in.

Brandon Siler, Anthony Waters, Kevin Burnett, Napoleon Harris, Leon Williams, Gerald Hayes, that’s all I got… that said… DiGi should not be a MLB.

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by ForeignArrow on Jan 5, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

crowell

I would be fine with Crowell. He makes some big plays, and has good sideline to sideline speed. I’m for whatever moves Mitchell to the weak side where he can be our primary blitzing LB. That has to happen. I am more inclined to draft or sign a guy to play MLB and move Poz to strongside. But whatever, the case, the LB crew has to be significantly restored. Bowen and Digi for depth and I guess Ellison. But please get bigger there.

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 5, 2009 12:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

FA linebackers I would consider

In no particular order:
- Karlos Dansby, Arizona Cardinals
- Mike Peterson, Jacksonville Jaguars
- Bart Scott, Baltimore Ravens
- Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens – Doubt this happens but what the heck, lets dream.
- Michael Boley, Atlanta Falcons
- Channing Crowder, Miami Dolphins
- James Farrior, Pittsburgh Steelers
- Leroy Hill, Seattle Sehawks
- Jonathan Vilma, New Orleans Saints

There are a ton of names out there. If the Bills are seious about upgrading the LB position it can be done.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, for real – if there’s one position that’s easiest to upgrade via free agency this off-season, it’s definitely linebacker.

Crowder intrigues me… and I feel dirty for saying that.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I felt dirty typing it.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“Urgent, urgent!”

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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that your anthem?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, "Talk Dirty to Me" by Poison :-)

I am sooooooo glad big hair is out of fashion!!!!!!

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by Joe P. on Jan 5, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Crowder or Dansby, please.

~K
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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, LB has the most GOOD depth in FA this year

TE and OL are very weak right now, but could change as to who gets tagged by their teams before FA. I think we would be best to look for a new starter at LB there, and use the 1st 3 rounds of the draft to get our DE,C,TE (no order to this btw) that we need.

Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?

by WABillsfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Vilma v. Crowell

I really think we are overlooking the fact that if we pick up a free agent linebacker it is most likely going to be Jonathan Vilma. If I am not mistaken, if the Saints re-sign him then they have to send a 2nd round pick to the Jets, something I would loathe to do if I were them.

This means that Vilma is extremely likely to hit the market and likely at a much more affordable price then Dansby. Plus, he is familiar with the AFC East and the Jets personnel.

So I think the question is do we want Vilma or Crowell.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 5, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Plus, he is familiar with the AFC East and the Jets personnel

With the coaching change taking place in Jersey that may not mean all that much.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, I’m not sure how Vilma’s AFC East ties are any more relevant than Crowder’s.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well

thats why I said its between Vilma and Crowell

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 5, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ah Crowder

sorry, thought you said Crowell

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 5, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really think we are overlooking the fact that if we pick up a free agent linebacker it is most likely going to be Jonathan Vilma.

I don’t consider that a fact at all. :)

I agree that he’s not likely to be re-signed in New Orleans, nor am I implying that he wouldn’t be a good fit in Buffalo. I just believe that guys like Boley, Crowder and Hill would be higher on Buffalo’s list.

What exactly has Vilma done that makes him such a hot name, anyways? Yeah, he puts up a lot of tackles, but so does Paul Posluszny. Vilma isn’t exactly a playmaker, either; we’re talking about a guy who has 3.5 sacks, 7 picks and 1 TD in five NFL seasons. It’s not bad production, but it’s hardly earth-shattering.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well it seems to me that for the reasons you mentioned Vilma will cost less then most of the other FA available but is still more talented then guys like Leroy Hill who will go for a little less or around the same price tag as him.

Boley I think will get a bigger contract then some expect, he’s like Crowell from last year if he had hit the market, Crowder I feel like is going to be resigned, Parcells is great at retaining talent and after the playoff appearance I would surprised if they let him go. Price-wise I feel like Hill and Vilma are the same, talent wise I feel like Dansby is better but not by that much than Vilma but will be incredibly more expensive.

Just seems to me that Vilma falls into Buffalo’s range of what we are willing to spend and for what kind of talent upgrade over Ellison, which for Vilma is a major upgrade over Keith.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 5, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Vilma was

on his way to becoming a star in the NFL, until Mangina came in and switched to a 3-4. If Vilma is moved to the outside he could be a Lance Briggs type. I think it’s kind of weird that you’re more interested in Crowder than Vilma… it doesn’t suffice to say that me and you are different pages when it comes to LBs, we’re reading different books.

Brian vs. Brian

Galliford = Cushing
Peterson = Maualuga
Galliford = likes DiGi
Peterson = doesn’t like DiGi
Galliford = likes Phish Crowder
Peterson = likes clam chowder
Galliford = not-so-much on Vilma
Peterson =

WTF mate?

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by ForeignArrow on Jan 5, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, well, let me clarify a couple of things:

Galliford = Curry, THEN Cushing
Galliford = likes Crowder AND clam chowder

I only ever said Crowder intrigued me. I like his physicality more than Vilma’s athleticism. I’ve said for a while now that I just straight up want Buffalo’s defense to be more physical, and Crowder can do that with a dash of athleticism added. I’m not completely against the idea of bringing in Vilma, it’d just surprise me given that the Bills coaches love Mitchell on the weak side. Vilma would be terrible as this scheme’s middle or strong-side backer.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

More of a Manhattan Clam Chowder guy myself

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This could be the song that never ends...

but i think you underestimate Vilma’s physicality. And no kidding Curry comes first hah, and who doesn’t like clam chowder?

and you really think Buffalo will be that rigid in leaving Mitchell on the weak side? I don’ t think they would leave him there if they were sacrificing talent maximization.

Anyways… I would honestly be happy with any legit playmaker (Vilma, Dansby, Crowell, sweet-dude draft pick)… just not Ellison.

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by ForeignArrow on Jan 5, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And there’s where we can agree, Mr. Peterson – playmakers are needed in whatever shape, size or speed they come.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would

argue that Vilma could do more for our defense because he is much more athletic than any of our current LBs. Vilma on the weakside (God not the middle) would be huge for our defense. I think him and Crowell are about the same age right?

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by ForeignArrow on Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Crowell will be 28 in August, and Vilma will be 27 in April. So yeah, ’bout the same age.

Vilma is definitely an athlete. I think the biggest counter-point to my original argument is that he’s spent 2 of his 5 NFL seasons in a defense he just can’t play in – Mangini’s 3-4. He was above average in his first two years, dealt with some injuries and was in a bad D, and then bounced back a bit in NO this season.

I just think that the Bills are looking for a bigger linebacker than a 230-pound guy. Remember, they signed Mitchell last season specifically to play the weak side. I think they’ll keep him there. Depending on what they do with Poz, I think they’ll look for either a strong side or middle linebacker this off-season.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They need a LB with size AND speed. We have 2 guys with size and very little speed right now. That’s why I like Crowder and Dansby a lot, both are 250+ lbs and can move….

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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Vilma could add some much much needed speed to this defense.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 5, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It looks like New Orleans will have to give the Jets a 2nd round pick if they resign him and a 4th round pick if he walks.

by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It goes beyond that; it’s a very weird situation, albeit with a simple resolution. If the Saints re-sign Vilma, they’ll owe the Jets a 2nd round pick.

BUT, if you recall, the Saints also made a deal with the Giants for Jeremy Shockey. Their second-round pick was surrendered to the Giants in that deal. Vilma’s pick is currently a third-rounder which would escalate to a second if the Saints re-signed him prior to the start of free agency. If that happened, that second-rounder would go to the Jets, and their first-rounder would then go to the Giants.

So the Saints definitely won’t re-sign him prior to the start of free agency, but might try once he hits the open market. That way it’ll stay third-round compensation to the Jets, and they won’t lose their first-round pick.

At least, that’s how I’m reading the situation.

Bottom line: it’s a virtual certainty that Vilma will hit the open market, but there’s still a chance that the Saints re-sign him.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Linkage

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Could be a nice little gentleman’s agreement between both sides. Come to terms on a contract extension, but wait until March 1st, so to keep the draft picks….

~K
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by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the info.

It is interesting to see that if NO signs Vilma in free agency they only have to give up thier third round pick and they will get the Jets 4th round pick back. I think K might be onto something that they could certainly cheat this situation and come to an agreement with Vilma and have him sign along the dotted line on the first day of FA.

by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if I were Vilma

I would definately take advantage of the situation to test the market and force NO to pay me big time in order to save their draft picks. Thats great info Brian. The way I see it, there is no way Vilma returns to NO unless they overpay for his services. I hope we give him an offer. Let the other teams fight it out for Dansby.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 5, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Unless we move Poz outside

Only Dansby, Hill, Crowder, Boley, and Crowell have experience playing OLB in a 4-3. Dansby lines up at WLB for the Cards. Hill has played both SLB and WLB.

by freddyjj on Jan 5, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really wouldn't mind moving him outside at all

He has played OLB in college and successfully. Also, Mitchell has played MLB if I’m not mistaken. I think this makes us very flexible in terms of LB FA. If we re-sign Crowell the point is moot regardless. We also should be talking about the serious advantages of resigning Crowell. We get one of the better OLB’s in the league (I can’t believe the arguments that hes nothing special, the guy was on his way to big time name recognition before he missed this year, for a Bill that is impressive. Not saying he’s elite but he is very good) AND we save money and are able to attack a different position of need in free agency.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 5, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Both Poz and Mitchell have the versatility to play either outside or inside. This gives the Bills extra options as far as which FA LB they want to go get, if that is in fact the route they want to go.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hill showed some Pass Rush ability before the Seahawks brought in Julian Peterson

And made him their primary rushing LBer. Hill is a decent athlete, good size, and plays balls to the walls everytime he is on the field. I think he could be had for Crowell or less money, so I think he might be a sneaky type signing that could pay off big for us.

Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?

by WABillsfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He won’t be getting less than Crowell. Crowell will be signing a 1 or 2 year deal, with a lot of incentives, IMO….Hill is a better player anyways….

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by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone here is missing

the point completely! Crowell is not a hard worker and last year he screwed the Bills over. I love the guy personally for what he did the last 2 years when we didn’t have a defense, but he is not well liked in the locker room or by most of the players by not getting offseason surgery and delaying it until the start of the season. Crowell is all but gone. Vilma is not a better option, look at how he panned out with the Saints this year. Your offense puts up how many points and your defense cant stop anything!!! Vilma is to light figured. We must get a middle linebacker, so POZ can move outside.

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by Cutter3636 on Jan 6, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Vilma is not a better option, look at how he panned out with the Saints this year.

He panned out well for the Saints. He had 132 tackles. One man does not make a defense. The Saints want to re-sign him in a bad way.

You’re right about Crowell, though. I highly doubt he comes back.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The one argument I can see for Crowell is cost. He’s a capable starting LB and if we get him at a discount that lets us seriously address other needs in FA) then I can see us going for it.

by Hopefulcynic on Jan 7, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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