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OK, I have a feeling this fanpost is going to get EXTREMELY long, so please proceed with caution.  Don't crucify me too much.  It's just a whole bunch of thoughts that I've been meaning to post. It's probably 3 fanposts worth of thoughts, but I didn't feel like clogging up the right side with 3 or 4 separate posts.  It'll probably end up with a mock draft in there somewhere too....

Anyways, I've been busy working and with the New Years holiday last week, I haven't been able to really comment a whole lot on the team's situation.....It's been a week since the season ended in typical Bills fashion with a major stinker.  It's also been almost a week since we heard there will be no changes other than to the roster.  I don't know which has made me sicker.  The team played scared, super dee duper conservative and had no chance of winning despite only losing 13-0 to the Pats.  Simply put, it was disgusting and sad.  Two days later, the "Inner Circle" of ineptitude deliberates for probably 5-10 minutes (a hunch) before deciding to keep Jauron AND the coaching staff.  No doubt this was motivated by Wilson not wanting to eat the contract, but probably more for not wanting to admit so soon that he made a mistake giving him a new contract.  Wilson is as stubborn as a mule, so you can bet he didn't want to admit to that one.

When I heard the news, I was initially floored.  Letting it sink in for a week and I really feel no anger.  Instead, I have a mix of sadness, disgust, fear (of it getting worse), and most damning (to me) a hint of apathy.  I've never felt that about the Bills before except to minor roster changes and whatnot.  I think it finally reached a tipping point for me, maybe a boiling point, when my family came to visit for Xmas.  Not once did my father and I discuss the Bills, something that's never happened during the holidays.  We talked about SU basketball, but despite my latest copy of Bills Digest sitting on the coffee table, we didn't talk about our Bills.  He's just as upset as me.  I hope that never happens again and it's uphill from here. Feeling as if it doesn't really matter is really sad and painful to me.  I don't know what it is, but I think it's mostly due to how little I believe in this front office, personnel evaluation, coaching staff and Ralph Wilson.  In a sense, I almost feel very little excitement about the offseason because I just envision this upcoming season going absolutely terribly.  Who am I kidding? I'll be ramped up for FA and the draft in no time, probably even by the end of this post.  But right now, I just feel like Mickey Rourke in the Wrestler, all beat up and weathered after years of pain.  We're becoming immune to losing whether any of us want to admit it or not.  I just have no faith right now, someone needs to remind me why I need to have hope!

I think where I've been disgusted the most is with how the rest of the league reacted after week 17.  We saw the Jets fire Mangini, probably somewhat unfairly, after he was crippled by a crappy QB who he never wanted.  He had 2 winning seasons and a playoff berth in 3 years, but was let go even though I'd place a lot more blame on the washed up POS that ruined the season for them.  Yet, that team had no problem trying to make a change and head in a new direction.  Sure, that organization is dysfunctional in its own way, but sometimes you've gotta step up and at least TRY to shake things up.  Teams like Baltimore, Miami, Atlanta have all proven change can work immediately.  We saw Denver fire Shanatan despite all his success there because they just couldn't get over that hump recently.  A guy like Shanatan loses his job, while Dick Jauron and his 7-9 candy shop special keeps his job. 

I just don't understand how his body of work can be worth bringing back no matter how big the contract extension.  2-21!!!! That's Teflon Jauron's record against teams with winning records here.  0-7 this year, 1-7 last year, 1-7 in 2006.  Like whoa.  Against teams at .500 or below, Jauron's Bills are 19-6.  I don't feel like looking it up, but I'd imagine that's pretty high up over the past 3 years.  You know what that signals to me?  We have some talent, obviously not enough, but just horrendous coaching.  You can't convince me that a better coach wouldn't have gotten more than 2 wins in 3 seasons against winning teams.  Throw in the weekly game mismanagement, horrendous decision making, lack of halftime adjustments, etc, etc, etc and I just got myself worked up again!!!  Really, sticking with the status quo and the joys of mediocrity is just bizarre.  When people question Ralph's desire to put a winning product on the field, I'm not sure how he or the FO can have a retort.  It's sickening guys.

Beyond keeping Jauron, which we probably all knew would happen no matter how much we protested and hoped for the best, keeping the rest of the coaching staff in place is ridiculous.  Continuity, shmontinuity.  Turk Schonert was as clueless as they come this year.  Why was he putting the game into a young QB's hands over and over and over?  How could he drop Losman back 30-40 times a game?  JP LOSMAN for crying out loud!!!  How about we play to our strengths with a strong RB duo?  His bizarre playcalling and extreme predictability never changed, and is why I was not wiling to give him another season.  There were no signs of understanding the issues and trying to correct them. Instead, he kept trotting out the same tomfoolery every week.  WTF!!! And now he'll be getting another year, unless some surprising change occurs.  Sure, turning over the coordinator position every year isn't the wisest idea, but keeping a guy who was AWFUL is probably even dumber. 

Perry Fewell escaped much scorn this year because of Jauron and Schonert's coaching deficiencies, but he's also problematic, at least at times.  I do think he's handcuffed by a lack of talent on the DL and a lack of speed at LB and a lack of playmakers at S, BUT he also played it too conservatively this year.  At times we'd see some quality calls by him, but most of the time we just sat back and let teams toy with us.  I want a more aggressive coordinator who can get the most of out his players.  Maybe he did, who knows....

Sean Kugler, I'm coming for you!  Not really, but I think we saw such a preciptious drop in the OL's play for most of the year because of McNally's departure and Kugler's appearance.  Get more out of these guys, Coach!

I love you Bobby April.  You're indestructable in my book. 

Going beyond keeping this staff as is and sticking with the obvious continuation of mediocrity, is the impact this had on the NFL scene as a whole.  Or lack there of.  The news of Jauron's retention barely registered a blip on the radar around the league and that shows just how irrelevant this team has become.  Really, nobody cares outside of Bills fans, and that's just awful.  I hate being laughed at for the team I love!!!!!

Heading into next year, even before adding new players and seeing what happens with the rest of the league, I'm just so lacking in confidence for next year.  I know I'm probably too pessimistic for many of your liking, but I am really being realistic.  Normally, I"ll be heading into the offseason somewhat excited and optimistic we'll get better and be a good team the following year.  Right now, not so much.  I just have this sinking feeling that Jauron is a lame duck coach, and that NEVER turns out well.  We HAVE to make the playoffs next year, and maybe even win a game, if he is to keep his job.  With such a brutal looking schedule (at this point, I know who knows 9 months from now) and Jauron coaching on a seat that is ready to set his chinos on fire, I have trouble envisioning much success next year.  We've seen how teams respond when they have a lame duck type coach, and very rarely is that positive (see Holmgren, Mike and Crennel, Romeo).  If the season starts slowly next year, I fully expect a complete team folding.  I'm not sure blaming anyone would make much sense either, because it's the situation.  I know that all sounds a wee bit ridiculous, but this is really my major concern with how next season will play out.

One final thought on the "inner circle"'s decision....Good luck selling nearly as many tickets this offseason.  What exactly is Russ Brandon supposed to promote?  There has been litte improvement, if any, and there are so many Bills fan fed up with Jauron and his retention.  I liked the article by Larry Felser in the Buffalo Snooze today:

Woe to the person in Buffalo Bills’ management who is assigned to write the annual letter to season-ticket buyers about renewing for the 2009 season.

How would you start? “We have re-established our commitment to mediocrity?”

Or, “We promise we won’t mangle game management in ’09?”

Or, “Our players will no longer get into a fracas 20 seconds before halftime while the clock runs out on a probable tying field goal?”

How about, “Our coach is already practicing how to throw the challenge flag without worrying that he might disturb the concentration of the zebras?”

He's right on.

OK, that was more than enough on that subject.  Guess what?  I ain't done!!!  Let's talk about players, shall we?

Overall, we have some talent, but really need a bigtime infusion soon.  More size, definitely more speed, and more than anything, some playmakers are necessary.  I like some things we have in place, as I'm sure the rest of you do too.

Trent Edwards scares me though.  The way the second half of the season went was about as bad as it could go.  Trent played scared and lacked confidence.  I understand the mistakes and can attribute those to a young QB who's still learning, but his overall demeanor was discouraging.  The best QB's don't dwell on the mistakes and really don't let it effect their game.  Trent against Cleveland was what really concerned me.  After a few INT's, he was in a shell for the most part.  I was almost convinced he was the guy, and after some growing pains before that, ready to back him completely.  Now I'm not sure, though I want to believe.  I still think he'll be a good player, though I'm not sure he's going to be the guy to lead us for the long term.  His injuries concern the crap out of me too.  I will believe in him because of the 4th Q comebacks he had early, and the later season games against the dreadful KC and Denver defenses.  I just don't want to see him afraid to throw the ball downfield anymore, especially when receivers are open.  We can't win with a guy who does that.  And we need that vet backup more than ever.

I love the RB duo, especially the Fred Jackson December to remember.  If Schonert really does continue on as the OC, he has to be a whole lot smarter about using them.  No more 12 carry games for Lynch or 2 touch games for Jackson.  Use them Turk, USE THEM!!!! Let them lead us to freedom, or a winning season!  I would like to try adding a fast twitched, change of pace type back.  I don't think Omon will be anything and would love to add a guy with speed who can make some big plays back there. 

We need a FB that can block, plain and simple.

WR concerns me as always.  Evans is still a borderline #1 at best for me, but has yet to be utilized to his talents.  Why no quick slants? Why no bubble screens?  Why so few deep balls?  I love Reed's ability to move the chains and work the middle.  I'm happy for him for having a quality season this year and being our most reliable receiver.  He deserves it after all the scorn he's received.  I just hope we can find a more explosive player to allow him to be that slot guy full time.  Hardy was a major bust this year, not because of his stats, but because of the way he looked out there. Slow, stiff and totally unable to get open.  That's my concern with him, along with his inability to play big.  That ACL tear came at the worst possible time for him and his development.  I can't see him making a big impact next year as he'll be spending all offseason rehabbing instead of working on his game, his routes and his timing w/Trent.  I love Steve Johnson's potential and hope he continues improving.  He can really help us if he keeps getting better.  I won't anoint him a stud yet like many Bills fans have, but I do like his future here.  Roscoe, eh.  If we parted ways with him this offseason, so be it.  He's not a good WR, and definitely not the playmaker he thinks he is.  A good punt returner, yes.  But we saw Fred Jackson have plenty of success returning punts this year, so it's not like Roscoe isn't totally replaceable back there.  If some team offered a 4th or higher, I'd jump on it.  It's probably not happening though.  We probably need a vet WR this offseason.

TE needs a true threat.  That doesn't have to be a high pick though.  Jermaine Gresham looks great, but I don't like the idea of taking him #11, nor do I expect him to be around in the low 40's.  After that, Chase Coffman would be a nice pick in the 3rd, or a couple of the mid round pass catching TE's could really help us.  I'm pretty much done with Royal,as the rest of you are.  If he is indeed let go, we may need to look for a blocking TE in FA.  Schouman does nothing for me.  I like Fine though.  He looks to be a very good all-around TE in the making, and getting another blocking TE and a pass receiver to go with him would make a nice TE trio.

OT is a position that probably is set.  Just pay Peters, please.  He's our best player and it'd be dumb to trade him and open another huge hole.  I'd like to resign Chambers and let Bell grow.  Should be a position we're set at.

I don't like Dockery and his contract.  If he was making a lot less, I'd be much happier, but him having that huge deal and playing so underwhelmingly sort of stinks.  I don't think he'll be going anywhere any time soon.  Butler is a good, solid player.  We're obviuosly much better with him healthy.

The Center position continued to be a revolving door of suck.  Preston was probably slightly better than Fowler, but that's like saying Windex tastes slightly better than furniture polish.  Both of them need to go and we need to get a much better player at the position.  That doesn't have to be an Alex Mack though.  Anybody who can walk and chew gum would be a significant improvement over what we've had.  It may actually be wise to bring in veteran C like Birk, if possible, at this point, but I won't be mad if we use one of our first 3 picks on a Center.  I'd be ecstatic if we could finagle our way into Mack in round 2.  Luigs wouldn't be a bad pick either as he seems equipped to handle the 3-4's we'll be facing. 

I've said more than enough about DE's the past 2 years.  They all stink in their own way.  Hopefully, Schobel can get healthy and return to the field next year, and play solid football.  He's not a great pass rusher, but is good enough if we can add more talent to go with him.  I like Ryan Denney as the #3, he played pretty well this year.  Chris Kelsay is probably my most disliked Bill.  I may dislike Dick Jauron and his coaching, but I hardly hate the man.  Chris Kelsay, on the other hand, is almost hated to me.  He flat out stinks and I want him gone in the worst way.  What an utter waste of money.  I want him cut this offseason and his ridiculous contract tossed over the Falls.  I hope Chris Ellis can do something next year, please.

I like our starting DT's and Spencer Johnson is an allright backup.  We do need another young guy, someone with some size, that can develop behind Stroud and help our run D next year.  A midround pick is what I'd look at.

We need more speed at LB, a lot more.  I'm not sure it'll happen though.  Poz is a major disappointment to this team, although I never liked the pick in the first place.  Kawika Mitchell was ok this year, though he's looked slow and out of place more than I'd like.  At least he's made some plays though.  I like the idea of adding a FA to this position over a first round pick.

Leo looks like a keeper, and I expect him to really improve into next year.  McGee is much better on the line in bump and run, and that was pretty evident this past year.  I hope Fewell finally recognizes that.  He played pretty well at times this year, but looked ridiculous when playing 10 yards off the ball.  I think Greer is gone unless he only commands $4-5M per year.  If that is the case, we better resign the guy.  He was our best cover guy this year.  I think him missing the last half of the year or so could reduce his price tag. Let's hope so.  Reggie Corner was ok, I guess.  I wasn't overly impressed as he seemed to be a step late to the ball a lot.  He should improve though.  I'm really hoping Youboty comes back healthy and is the player we saw early.  He's a good all around player and someone who really, really, really would have helped our secondary this season.  I love his playmaking ability and tackling.  If Greer leaves, we probably need to add a vet CB.

I want a safety that can tackle and make plays.  Bryan Scott was our best player there this season, by far.  I hope he's resigned (if he's a FA!), even if it's as a #3.  He's solid.  Donte Whitner is probably the most disappointing player on the team.  If you're going to open your mouth and spout off a playoff guarantee, your play on the field better back it up.  Instead, his piss poor tackling led to an injury and a major truck stick incident against Sammy Morris.  He'll never be the player his draft status indicates. Hopefully, a better pass rush can enable him to be a better player, though I'm skeptical.  I'm looking at FA for an upgrade at this position.

Love Leo on Kick returns.  He was such a threat back there, and it worked out great when the opposition didn't even kick to him.  Putting Fred Jackson short was a great move by April, all season.  Keep it up guys.

There's a lot of work to be done to improve this roster, but I think it can be done with FA and the draft this year.  I'm not hopeful though, especially after all the duds of the past few years.  Hopefully, Ralph WIlson's comments lead to see significant FA acquisitions, though it's more likely we'll get 1 semi-big name and a few mid tier guys.  I'll roll with that philosophy and pick a few guys I'd like to see us go after.

Bertrand Berry DE Arizona.  I'd love this signing.  He's getting up there in age, but he's still a good pass rusher, and a pretty solid well-rounded player.  I'd really go hard after him and try to lock him up for 2-3 years.  He'd be well worth it.  I want this signing simply to get Kelsay out of here.  Win-win I'd say.

Sean Jones S Cleveland, Oshiomogho Atogwe S St Louis or Jermaine Phillips S Tampa Bay.  I'd welcome any of those three with open arms.  They are all playmakers in the secondary and would be pretty nice improvements.  If the staff plans on moving Whitner to FS full time, going hard after Sean Jones or Jermaine Phillips should be a pretty big priority.  I'd love to add Jones, he of the 14 INT's the past 3 years. Both he and Phillips are very good players. If Whitner is to remain a SS, which may be his best position, Atogwe may be the guy to go after.  13 INT's in the past 2 years is pretty dang awesome.  I keep mentioning INT's because we need guys back there that can create some turnovers for once.  3 good choices, IMO.  And I think this is a position that will be heavily investigated in FA.

Free Agent LB X. I think this is the semi-big splash the FO goes after.  I know Crowell wants to return, and if we do somehow retain him, then obviously we won't go after any bigger name.  However, with the same staff and FO personnel here, I don't think they plan to welcome Crowell back after how disappointed they were in his decision making.  I'd absolutely love to add Karlos Dansby and his size/speed, but I don't know if we'd spend that much.  Bart Scott could be a possibility, along with LeRoy Hill and Channing Crowder are also available.  Each would be a nice upgrade.  We could also go with a Mike Peterson or Jonathan Vilma if we decide to move Poz outside, which could work out ok too.  I just think we'll be adding one of the above in some form this offseason, at least I kind of hope so.

Panda WR San Francisco Zoo.  I don't care.  I like this guy and his ability.  He'd still be a good fit here giving us that red zone threat we need, along with a somewhat dependable veteran presence.  I really do think we need to bring in a vet this year, unless the staff really believe Steve Johnson will be taking a major step this offseason.  I'm not counting on Hardy for anything, he wont' be ready IMO.  Others have mentioned Jabar Gaffney, eh.  Not my cup of tea.  TJ Housh ain't walking through that door either, so I'm not even bothering thinking about him.  Antonio Bryant made himself a ton of money, same thing as Housh in my eyes.  Amani Toomer is probably going to stay a Giant with the Plax hoopla.  At least they'd be dumb not to resign him. Brandon Lloyd, Brandon Jones or Nate Washington might be the other guys I'd look at.

Chaz Batch QB Pittsburgh.  He'd be the veteran backup we're looking for.  He's solid and pretty dependable out there.  And he'd be pretty cheap.  I don't expect Pittsburgh to resign him.  Jon Kitna could also be a possibility. I'm not all that thrilled with the other options, though I'd take sireric at QB over Losman again.

FA Blocking TE. If Royal is cut, I'd look to bring in a short term solution to help in short yardage and other run blocking situations.  Maybe a Jim Kleinsasser, Bubba Franks or Will Heller.  There's others out there, but I can't remember who right now.  This would free up the option to bring in a pass catching threat at TE with a mid round pick.  This would be a nice cheap signing too.

Bringing in a vet Center to start is also a strong possibility.  I don't really know a whole lot about all of the candidates, so I'll leave it at that for now.  If we go this route, I just hope the guy we bring in won't be such a HUGE liability.  Really, I'd be happy with a middle of the road starter, which is still much better than what we've had.  Matt Birk or Jason Brown would be great, but I won't get my hopes up.

 

That's 4-6 somewhat significant FA acquisitions.  Probably unlikely, but not unreasonable, especially if Brian's idea that big changes are coming comes to fruition.  I do expect the FO to at least try to bring in a number of solid FA's.  Whether they want to play here is another story, but we can hope, right?


I haven't done a ton of research yet, so don't get mad if you think I have a guy going much later than you may expect.  But here's my super early, lightly researched mock draft:

1. Everette Brown DE Florida State - I love this guy.  He's my 2009 Derrick Harvey, only he's better.  Go watch some highlights of this kid, he simply knows how to rush the passer.  He doesn't just rely on a ridiculously quick first step, though that's going to be extremely helpful.  I love his killer spin move and his shoulder dip to get by OT's that worked so well for him this year.  He reminds me a bit of Dwight Freeney and his array of moves.  If he turned out like that for us, BOO YA!  His weight is a concern, but he can work at that.  You can't teach his speed and his already good looking repetoire of pass rush moves.  I think Brian Orakpo will be a top 8 pick.  I also think Michael Johnson will be a bust and George Selvie will return to school.  And I can't get behind Mack at #11, no matter how good he is. We can solve the Center riddle in a more beneficial way, I think.  We need multiple pass rushers, so adding him to Berry and Schobel (and maybe Ellis) would be what I'd do.

2. Alex Mack C Cal - Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas - Obviously, if Mack were to somehow fall this far, he'd be the pick.  I like Luigs because he looks to be one of the only other C's in the draft that is stout enough to excel against a 3-4 front.  He's also pretty good. 

3. Ron Brace DT Boston College or Chase Coffman TE Missouri - I'm guessing Coffman will be a 2nd rounder, but if he does make it to us in the 3rd, he'd be a very nice pick.  He's an excellent receiver and is 6'6", though he's a bit skinny and not that fast.  Sort of Metzelaarsian, I suppose.  I think he'd be a great receiving option for Trent.  But I think he'll be gone.  With that, let's add some size to our DL.  Brace is an intriguing option, and would be a nice rotational run stuffer behind Stroud and Williams.  He had a sore back all year, which would be a concern, and he may even be a 4th rounder, but right now I think he's hanging around in the 3rd.  Dorrell Scott, DT from Clemson would also work for me here.

4. Dennis Pitta TE BYU or Shawn Nelson TE Southern Miss - Assuming a DT in round 3, I like these two guys as pass catching TE options.  Pitta probably goes earlier though.  I want to add a guy with some speed and receiving skills, I don't care much if he can block or not, since I'll be adding a veteran blocking TE as I say above.  If Travis Beckum fell this far coming off his injury, I'd be all over that.  Cornelius Ingram from Florida could work too, but probably later on as he's coming off an ACL surgery and not playing in '08..Jarron Gilbert DT San Jose State could work here if we got someone like Coffman earlier.  He probably needs to add some weight to his 6'5" frame.

5. Jason Williams OLB Western Illinois - Developmental type guy that would be more necessary if we signd Crowell or another stopgap.  If we sign a guy like Dansby, I would look elsewhere here, probably interior OL depth.  I haven't researched that area a whole lot, so I don't know who to go with if I went OG.

6. Curtis Painter QB Purdue or Cullen Harper QB Clemson - Both had disappointing senior seasons and were benched, but both have talent and could develop into solid NFL QB's.  I'd be more willing to give one of these guys a chance than a guy like Drew Willy who just doesn't have the same kind of talent.  Time to try developing a backup QB, or even a guy who could be a starter down the line if Trent doesn't work out.

7. Brannan Southerland FB Georgia or Tony Fiametta FB Syracuse - This is a position that could be filled in FA, but regardless, we need to do something better than Corey McIntyre.  I like Southerland more, but both of these guys are good lead blockers and would really benefit Lynch and Jackson.

I think we'll get some late round compensatory picks because of the net loss of FA's of -3 (Signed Mitchell and Johnson, lost Gaines, Stamer, Webster, Wire and Leonhard), or something like that.  Even if we don't, I just wanted to throw in some more draft picks.

7a. Marcus Thigpen RB Indiana - Small dude, but fast.  We need more speed on O, I'll leave it at that.

7b. Brandon Tate WR UNC - Tore his ACL, but is an excellent punt returner.  If we were to part ways with Roscoe, a late round guy like this could be a good pickup.

 

Some guys I really like but doubt we'll go after include Kenny Britt WR Rutgers, Williams Moore FS Mizzou, Brandon Spikes MLB Florida, Dannell Elerbe MLB Georgia, Tyrell Sutton RB Northwestern (though he could fall to the 6th/7th)

 

 

WOW, this post got out of control.  Like really out of control.  I think I just broke the longest Fanpost record, by about 3000 words.  Word says I have over 5100 words in this bastard, yikes!  Have at it, I guess....

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 4:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tell me about it

No work today, so I was super freakin’ it. My hands hurt. I expect if anyone does read this that their eyes will bleed.

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol – i’ll read it now and post a comment tomorrow when i’m finished ;)

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

haha, I havn’t read it yet, but I have been planning on doing something like this for a week or two now. I guess I will wait a little longer so that nobody feels like Rumblings is turning into a novel’s worth of random thoughts!

by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

haha

Just giving you the week off then

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha thanks. I’m gonna start reading it now. Hopefully I don’t come up with a response longer than the original post like I sometimes do!

by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good post

few thoughts

1) maybe Ralph and co. are smarter than we are and knew Cowher won’t coach until 2010. so now we can choose between marty and cowher. obviously that isn’t what they were thinking – but could work out for us.

2)I agree with pretty much most of your FA possible pickups – good job K

3)I had one question on Painter – i haven’t watched him at all. Usually when I look for a QB, especially a late round QB, I look for 2 things – accuracy and intelligence – does he have those?

but i love the fact that you have DE, C and DT your first 3 picks – now that K – is how you build a team

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

1. Doubt it! I highly doubt they kept Jauron because they wanted to go after Cowher next year….

2. I just hope we can get any of those guys!

3. I’m not totally sure. I have only seen him a few times, but he has put up nice numbers in the past. He was projected as a 1st or 2nd rounder going into the year. He completed over 60% of his passes the past 2 seasons. No idea about intelligence.

General Douglas MacArthur’s plan during World War I was to “Lead men from the front”. I like that mantra and feel a football team should be built in a similar fashion….

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah number 1 was a joke – but regardless – it would be awesome if we could get either Cowher or Marty because they were too stubborn to fire DJ this year. not like i’m counting on them firing DJ next year…oh wait…yes i am

If Brian Orakpo isn’t there then definately Everette Brown then as you eluded to getting Berry would be great DE rotation (after cutting Kelsay and his ridiculous contract of course).

as i read your list i kept thinking – man we have a TON of holes to fill

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All we need to do now is attach Ron’s poll to your post, and we will have the longest post in SBNation history.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SO TRUE

Now we just need Geronimo to swing by and fill us in on some of thinking at OBD’s and we can all have some sanity

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 5, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I made it 3/4

of the way until the draft prospects. My eyes did bleed a little bit btw.

1) I’m sold on getting a guy like Berry. Bring me a vet, that can be SITUATIONAL. He doesn’t have to play every down, but come on Coaches, get creative. John Abraham this year, I read somewhere played like 50% of the snaps. They kept him super fresh and he had a career year. I think if we do that with Schobel and a guy like Berry and rotate Denny, Ellis, and I am all for a 5th DE, then we can be so much more productive

2) Speed. We need a big speed LB. As of now I vote for using #11 on the best LB available. Having a Patrick Willis, Jerod Mayo, Jon Beason affect would be so great for this team. We need a big time LB that can just get after it. Let Mitchell be the primary blitzer and get after it more

3) CB – Leo still has a ways to go at CB, but his playmaking ability is so nice to see isn’t??!?!?!?! We will see how much Jauron likes Greer if they resign him. Having only McGee, McKelvin, Youboty, Corner, is not enough IMO. A Vet would be needed to be brought in and if Greer is 5 years $25 mill DO IT!

4) Gotta get veteran safety help. You know I don’t know what Whitner is best at. Not great at coverage, not great at run support. I hate to say it, but the kid has a long ways to go to have any impact on this defense. Maybe we just don’t utilize him right but jeesh make a play in your life

5) Pass catching TE. I’ll admit, TE’s in the draft are avaiable in mid-late rounds. There are projects you can find. I really want a guy that is at least 6’4", and just athletic in pads. A basketball type physique.

6) Vet WR is a must. PANDA is ok and probably would come with a reasonable price.

Finally K, I’m glad you aren’t letting Dick “Cheerios” Jauron ruin your life too much. It sucks I know. But I keep saying, he had a whacky 13-3 season in Chicago. Maybe, just maybe that ball-hawking defense he has wanted to build, will come to fruition. Turk Schonert did some nice things in the early part of the season. Defenses caught up to him though. Hopefully in 2009, a dominant defense, coupled by a Coach and QB with their jobs on the line in 2009, and maybe just maybe that’s a recipe for success

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 5, 2009 5:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good point on the rotational stuff to keep DE’s fresh. That’s what the Giants did last year too. With Kelsay hopefully out of the picture, PLEASE!!!!, and a vet like Berry along with a talented rookie in Brown, I would be very, very confident in our DE rotation. It’s not too much to ask is it?

I agree with speed at LB though I don’t know if 11 is right for that guy. I’ve read that Curry isn’t THAT quick, so I’m not sure about him. Maualuaga seems like a 3-4 guy to me.

I hope we can keep Greer for a decent price, but I won’t count on it. He hasn’t totally earned a huge deal that some think he’ll get. Remember, he was pretty average last year, though a surprise and had the durability concerns this year. His size should scare teams away from a big deal, and he isn’t much of a run supporter. I think we’ll have a good chance to keep him without having to pay an excessive amount.

Whitner seems best at talking and hosting DB’s at his house. We’ve used him at SS, at FS, on the line, off the line and he looks like the same guy everywhere. A very mediocre player that doesn’t tackle well.

That’s why I like that Shawn Nelson guy. Good frame, with good speed.

At least with Jauron still around, I’ll still have someone to campaign against!

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

idk about ur round 6

Drew willy, if he falls to the 6th round is a better talent than the other two. He leads both of them in all stats. Willy has 6 interceptions, a 65% completion record, 98.1 qb rating for the season, 3304 yards for the season, and 25 td.
I cant say that either of the other two r sound picks. Maybe drew willy is not the best option but Cullen Harper and Curtis Painter are not in no way better. I’ve been through many espn analysts about the draft and the worst one ive found is drew willy going 10th (with many underclassman who have yet to decided whether or not they will enter the draft in the article) and Harper and Painter bring up the rear in the list.

by billsstein on Jan 5, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lots of good thoughts here. I’ll certainly rec it…

I think I agree with most if not all of your front office thoughts. I understand the organization’s want to keep continuity. What is starting to baffle me is the lack of identity, and a plan going forward. Has anyone from OBD given a "state of the union address" yet?

I like many of the guys you noted as FA acquisitions, but I doubt we even land two of them. I don’t think this organization is going to make a splash in FA. In my opinion, it’s not the right way to build a team, and more significant, Ralph is just not going to spend a lot of money. Remember – we are on the verge of a significant change in the way the league does business, with regard to the expiring CBA. The owners are trying to paint a "we are poor" campaign. If Ralph Freakin Wilson of the Buffalo Bills throws around money, the league surely cannot be in such financial peril.

[This topic was/is going to be a post of mine for another day – I’ll keep it like that for now. One long-winded post for the Rumblers is enough for today]

Now, I do want to sign a couple of FAs. I think LB is the way to go. I like the guys you mentioned. I’m against you on the Berry pick up (I just don’t think much of the guy) as well as Panda. I like the safeties too. Batch would be great. Since when is Bubba Franks a blocking TE? He’s a bum – I’d almost rather keep Royal.

I don’t like your mock draft, no offense. I will expect full criticisms of my first one(s) as well.

I don’t think they’ll get anything as far as compensatory picks goes. Mitchell and Johnson combined made more than the five they lost. I think compensatory picks are based on loot. I could be wrong.

If Parrish could fetch a three, I would definitely think about it.

Side note to Brian – last year, there was a column to the right side that had links to mock draft sites. What about something like that for possible FAs? Take a list of FAs Buffalo Rumblers have indentified, and have any recent news/notes about them listed?

by krytime on Jan 5, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We’ll be doing FA profiles once we get through the Needs List, like we did with Panda and many others last year. I can whip up a widget that links to all of those profiles, and we’ll cover the news/notes portion of your comment in rumors threads as we lead into FA.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

K.........

you’re the man…….

that is all.

12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.

by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gracias

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s another take on the Bills spending habits.http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/01/monday-money-matters-18/
We don’t even spend cash to cap. Big splash in FA? RIght

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Jan 5, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, we will have at least $25M or so in cap space it appears. Not rolling forward that $5M is a bit questionable, but it is probably because the team has no plans of approaching the cap limit anyways, and would probably help to reduce the actual cap amount required based on the percentage needed.

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post K. I certainly agree with your thoughts on the front office (round table). We have to wait a year. A great lesson in patience. Even with “big changes” coming we"ll be lucky to win 6 games. Lowered excpectations keeps the blood pressure down.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Jan 5, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

War and Peace, by Kurupt

I think you covered everything very well. I agree with the vast majority of it.

I am surprised you are as worried about Edwards as you are. Edwards is still very young. He had his sophomore slump, right? I guess the Denver game gave me the glimmer of hope I was looking for that he can play in the cold. Edwards is smart enough to figure out the 3-4 and 8 in coverage. But, I am with you on needing the Vet backup and someone later in the draft.

I hope we sign Peters, but you are going to have to consider the possibility that he doesn’t want to play here and will be gone sooner rather than later.

Your free agent list is solid. I hope we get can convince some of them to play here. After being scorned by Panda and Tony G., if I were the Bills, I would feel like the ugly step sister.

Believe it or not, I like your mock draft. As much as I want Mack in the first round, I have no faith that OBD will feel the same way. Barring a trade back in the first round and/or a trading back into the first round, I think the soonest we take a center is the second round. If I can’t have Mack in the first, I am torn between someone like Brown at DE or Raji at NT. Given the choice, which would you take? I am getting that Ngata feeling about Raji! That said, if we don’t get Brown or Birk in FA, I will be pissed off if we don’t get Mack or Luigs. That leaves DE in round 3 again, sorry.

I voted "I don’t care" because I didn’t care that the post was long.

Great job. If this doesn’t get the hell reced out of it, I will be very disappointed!!!

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"

by Joe P. on Jan 6, 2009 12:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Joe

I don’t believe you, I’m sure you voted the third option….

I’m not worried about Trent physically or about his ability to read a D (at least not yet). That Browns game where he was scared to throw it for most of the game left a pretty sour taste in my mouth, even two months later. Fortunately, he came back the next week with the best game of his career, which is encouraging at least. He also didn’t throw a pick in his last 4 appearances, which included the frigid KC and Denver games, and the final wind storm affair. That’s also encouraging. I guess I might be putting too much weight on that Cleveland game, but he’s looked a bit scared to throw the ball downfield at other times as well. We don’t need that. We do need a smart QB that doesn’t turn it over, but he also has to be able to get it downfield more and get us in the endzone. Unlike last season, he led us to a TD in every game but 1, in which he finished. Last year, he didn’t lead us to a TD in 5 games in which he threw 20+ passes. So improvement there as well, though there’s still a long ways to go. Maybe I’m being a little over the top being worried about Trent, but I don’t want a QB that plays scared and is afraid to make all the throws required of him…

Money talks. If Peters is offered a big deal this offseason, he’ll take it. If he doesn’t, he’ll either have to sit out the year or play under his current deal and hope for a big deal when it expires in 2 years. Under the latter, he’ll be facing the possibility of a career ending injury that ruins his chances at a big bonus and salary. I would highly doubt that if he were offered a big deal this offseason, that he would turn it down. He’s be a complete buffoon if that were the case. I don’t think he’s that dumb.

Being scorned by Panda and Tony G should not make the Bills feel like an ugly step sister. There have been plenty of chances for that before…

Given the choice, I’ll make the one I included in my mock!!!! Brown all the way baby. I think we can get a DT to develop in round 3 or 4 and be just fine there. Our pass rush is so decrepit it makes Wall Street look sound. That’s where I’m spending more resources if I can (pass rush, not Wall St)

Getting a Birk or Brown would really give us some wiggle room come draft day. If we don’t land a good, solid starting Center in FA, we HAVE to take one in the first 2 rounds. Kind of like how we almost HAD to draft Lynch because our RB situation was so barren, not that that was a bad choice. I really dont’ want to be heading into the last weekend of April knowing we better hope that one of those guys is available in round 2 at the latest…..

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t believe you, I’m sure you voted the third option….

I did.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 6, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No Way!!!!

The only underwear I have ever pulled down are my own…..and women with really nice breasts ;-)

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"

by Joe P. on Jan 6, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Post K!

I agree with most of your FO comments except:

What exactly is Russ Brandon supposed to promote? There has been little improvement, if any, and there are so many Bills fan fed up with Jauron and his retention.

In my view, Russ is the reason for the problem in the first place. I remain convinced that he is the one that advised Wilson to extend Jauron after a 5-1 start, which was way to pre-mature because Jauron wasn’t going anywhere and we definitely should have waited. So now he must deal with the mess that he created – I have no pity for the guy!

I agree with Joe that your concerns regarding Edwards seem premature. He has shown so much poise for such a young guy and although I agree with you that he looked gun-shy at some points in the season, our dumb predictable OC certainly was not helping him in any way. I think that with better play-calling and a re-foccus of our attack around the two-headed monster will do wonders for Edwards. The other night when I was watching the Eagles at one point Westbrook had 18 carries for 36yards and I thought to myself that there is no way that Schonert would have the patience to continue to stick with it that long and then that little screen for 71yards! I sincerely hope that at a very minimum Jauron established with Schonert that our play-calling must now be focused on the run and establishing the run in 2009 will not be optional. He needs to spell it out for Schonert that he will be relieved of his duties if he does not comply.

I really hope that someway-somehow the FO finds a way to trade down and get Mack. The Lions at #20 or Eagles at #22 would be great because I doubt that Mack would go before that.

I like the idea of adding a big Run Stuffing DT along side Stroud, to free him up to pass rush. With a collapsing pocket on every play, guys like Ellis & Schobel could be quite effective. Plus we need to draft Stroud’s replacement for in a few years.

I still think that we can afford and should pursue Suggs as a FA DE. As for Panda I could see the advantage only if he comes cheap but I somewhat doubt it. He took a 1 year deal with SF to get the big payoff.. And I really believe that Steve Johnson will develop into something good. I actually think that he will step into the #2 spot next season and do a great job.

As for Charlie Batch, well I agree but I’d prefer Joey Harrington. Joey is younger with as much experience, he is a very similar QB as TE and offers longer term upside. If we would get a guy like Joe then I’d be fine with re-signing Hamdan and waiting until next year to draft another late round QB.

As far as FB, the guy I really like is Quinn Johnson a Sr out of LSU. We could pick this guy up in the 7th and there’s a chance that he might even go undrafted.

BEAST MODE, During the week plan on it & on game day thrive on it!
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by keysh67 on Jan 6, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In my view, Russ is the reason for the problem in the first place. I remain convinced that he is the one that advised Wilson to extend Jauron after a 5-1 start, which was way to pre-mature because Jauron wasn’t going anywhere and we definitely should have waited. So now he must deal with the mess that he created – I have no pity for the guy!

Well, we don’t know if that’s true, so I’ll err on the side of caution and stick with my original point….

Again, maybe I was a tad premature on Edwards, but there’s no denying how gun shy he was for parts of this season. I don’t know how you can’t have any concerns about him regarding that.

I would prefer a Vet to relying on Steve Johnson next year. I really like his potential, but I just don’t think he’s ready to start or be one of the guys to count on. Panda would be cheap. It’s not like he had a monster year. He had a year similar to the ones he had in AZ…

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

great post...

Because of my passion for this team, I tend to hold of view that is far from objective and tend to overreact. I was one of the many who flipped out last week, even though I should have seen it coming. When we were 5-1, I was the highest I’ve felt as a fan in the longest time, and when we went south, I quickly went to the lowest I’ve felt. What makes this site different is that there are people who aren’t like the die-hard fans that clutter the Bills message boards and splurt out baseless opinions without thinking about it.

That said I feel exactly the same way as this post. I really want to be optimistic about this team, but the current front office structure of this team and another year with Dick Jauron’s gameday management mess, really is holding me back. That said I’ll be just as pumped for free agency and the draft as anyone and could probably be convinced to get seasons again. Why? Because I love this team so much and come April, I’ll forget all about all of the problems that decimated us down the stretch and be blinded by my absolute desire for this team to finally do well again.

Opinion wise, I’m not even going to dream about this team going after this team going after Peppers, but did anyone see Orakpo tonight? He was visibly in the backfield almost every play and would give this team the speed off the end that it desperately needs. I’ll admit that I haven’t really seen Everett Brown other than the clip that Kurupt posted, but Orakpo looked dominant tonight. For everyone that wants to bring in Willy, I go to UB and have seen him play tons of games in person. He was a terrific MAC quarterback against those defenses, but seeing him against a Big East defense in UCONN and see him struggle as badly as he did, really sold me against his ability to succeed in the NFL.

Don't forget to pay the troll toll...

by evdawg419 on Jan 6, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, I do tend to spit out some crazy comments on gameday, but that’s only because I’m passionate about my Bills when they play. I do tend to overreact then, but I know later on how lame those comments are and I tend to keep my cool much better during the week. Haha, I’m sure there will be disagreements.

I think Orakpo is the best DE in the draft and his stock will increase further after his workouts. I expect him to be a top 10, maybe top 5 guy. I don’t think we’ll have a shot at him, but if he did fall to 11, I’d be happy to have him, despite my worries about Texas players.

Thanks for the Willy comments. Good/great MAC QB, but average prospect at best. He doesn’t really have the physical gifts. That’s why I’m more willing to roll the dice on a more talented prospect who’s tasted success at bigger programs, even if they struggled some this year. As a 3rd QB, I want a guy with upside. I don’t see how Willy has that in any way. I have a feeling he’s going to be mentioned a lot the next 3+ months even though he’s probably not going to be any more than a 7th rounder….

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Center position continued to be a revolving door of suck.

LMAO

by MattRichWarren on Jan 6, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

OK here's my thoughts

K,

You and I generally disagree on a lot of things but I like the vast majority of this post. One thing I haven’t heard anyone say about Turk was that he may grow between year one and year two. We always expect a player to make a jump forward between those two years, why not a coordinator? I’m not saying we shouldn’t upgrade to an established (keyword) Offensive Coordinator but I don’t think any quality OCs are out there unless Billick or Shanahan takes the job (FAT CHANCE!).

I hate your use of the Jets as a model, here. Sports talk guys are all saying that the firing of Mangini and subsequent search have been nothing but chaos and signaled the ineptitude of the organization. I think the Jets are stupid to get rid of Mangini after this year when they traded away the NFL comeback player of the year to make room for the NFL go-away player of the year. The Broncos, on the other hand, were probably right for firing Shanahan as GM/coach. It’s obvious the defense needed players and/or a scheme change.

Shockingly I think I agree with your assesment of the roster, though I usually give Whitner a little more than you do. Also, I think you are killing Poz in his “first year” when he led the team in tackles.

I started the Charlie Batch bandwagon a little while ago. Glad to have you on board. I, however, would not sign Panda to a contract shorter than three years which he obviously didn’t want last year. I do like the rest of your FA list.

If they don’t re-sign Crowell or sign another veteran LB, they must choose one in the first or second round. Ellison is a very good backup but an average starter at best.

Good post K, rec’d.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 6, 2009 10:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Turk could improve, but I am basing my opinion on the fact that he just didn’t seem to understand the importance of utilizing our best players (Lynch, Jackson, maybe Evans) and didn’t realize how predictable his playcalling was. What signs are there that he would change and improve?

Yes, the Jets are chaotic, but I’m pointing more to the idea of not settling for mediocrity, like the Bills do. For example, if the Bears fired Lovie or the Saints fired Payton, I could have used them. These teams all had winning seasons, yet we keep the guy who can’t get us above 7-9…

Poz….major disappointment, may be a bit much, but the way he was hyped coming to Buffalo, I wouldn’t say it’s that much of an understatement. He just looks like another guy out there, whether that’s the scheme or players around him, who knows. I just wish we got more out of him, more than just a handful of tackles. I’m sick of Whitner and him doing nothing. The only time we see him is when he’s blowing open field tackles.

I’d imagine we try to sign a LB in FA….That’s my hope as well…

It’s too bad Panda wouldn’t sign the multi year deal last year. I bet he’s more inclined to sign one now that a big day may never come…

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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My view on Turk. I think Turk has a lot going for him. I like that he played the game for 10 years, experienced Super Bowls as a backup QB and had a great career at Stanford. I think the Stanford connection obviously makes him and Trent a match. I think he will get better, and hopefully the personnel on offense, most importantly the TE, get better. However, Turk I think is too pass happy, and doesn’t have the weapons to run that offense. I do believe however, Turk will realize his faults and hopefully through OTA’s and mini camps bring a more concerted, direct offensive approach. Trent’s best executed game plans were the Denver and San Deigo games. Throwing the ball for 20 times in the first half against SF with a bad groin for example is just basic idiocy. You have to adjust to the circumstances.

I know this coaching staff is much maligned and rightfully so. However, I believe that if Edwards/Schonert get on the same page, the coaching staff won’t matter. Let Trent take control of this offense. In his 3rd year, stop looking at the sidelines, and start just doing things in the 2:00 drills. Trent needs to lead this team, and Turk better be damned sure he gets him prepared to do that in 2009. That’s the only way this team is going anywhere

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 6, 2009 10:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Turk is that pass wacky. He has had times where he was but if you look at this year we ran 439 times for 4.2 yards per clip and we passed 479 times for 6.9 per clip.

If you average that out it is 40 more passes than runs which is about 2.5 more passes a game than runs.

A little bit of tweaking here and there and actually winning at the end of games instead of trying to play catcup while passing a lot will make that number look even better. I think he gets viewed as pass wacky because of a handful of plays throughout the year that we all remember that went wrong or should have been something different.

Obviously it is better to run more than pass as if you do that your more likely to win – but he isn’t what I would call pass wacky like Mike Martz or Andy Reid. Their much more pass wacky than he is.

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 6, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FYI Marv – I was agreeing with you and was just getting you some fuel for furthur conversations regarding Turk because I am one of the few that wants him to stay and think he will improve as rookies generally do. I see a lot of good things out of him – obviously there are offensive guru’s better than him – but we could do worse.

let him develop and see what we have

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 6, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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but, my argument is the fact that he passes way too much in the 1st halves of games and how did that work for us? How many halftime leads did we have? Obviously, it isn’t as simple as run the ball early and pass late, cuz if you can’t run it early, it won’t matter. But, I thought in critical situations he was too fancy, and he came out doing New England Shotgun crap that we obviously personnel wise, really aren’t good at with our huge OL, and WR’s that can’t get open

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 6, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Marv – these are the areas in which he has to improve and grow. If he doesn’t do that this season then can him – but he’s a rookie and rookie’s do stupid stuff all of the time. They will watch tape and analyze then figure out what they did wrong and correct it. If they don’t correct it then he’s a goner.

But he’s not pass wacky – I just think he passes in situations in which most people would like a run, me included, but that doesn’t mean he’s going to do this all of the time.

Guess we’ll have to wait until next season to find out on the guy because its not looking like their going to replace him

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider

by J2 on Jan 6, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How about pass wacky near the goaline?

~K
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by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Turk is impatient and stubborn

He abandons the run so fast and he seems very stubborn. I think that the Front Office M U S T establish our identity as being a power-run team and this needs to be spelled out to Turk in no uncertain terms. If he is not happy with that then he can leave. I do believe that he can be a good coordinator in time but it is not entirely his show to run, he needs to follow certain guidelines that have to be established by the HC & FO.

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by keysh67 on Jan 6, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We’re becoming immune to losing

I’m only in my mid twenties, but already feel like losing weighs on me less and less every year. I’m starting to feel like like Coach Gaines from Friday Night Lights.

“It took me a long time to realize that there ain’t much difference between winnin’ and losin’, except for how the outside world treats you. But inside you, it’s about all the same. It really is. Fact of the matter is, I believe that our only curses are the ones that are self-imposed. You know what I’m sayin’? We, all of us, dig our own holes.”

I just have no faith right now, someone needs to remind me why I need to have hope!

Part of my super long post to come should have some stuff to give you hope.

Perry Fewell escaped much scorn this year ……. but he’s also problematic, ……. he also played it too conservatively this year

That will be one of the points in my own super long post. After watching the Ravens and Eagles play thier CBs off the line as often as the Bills did late in the year, I have a hard time believing that Perry Fewell had anything to do with the lack of defensive success this year. Something I want every Jauron and Fewell hater to do next weekend is take note of where McCallister and Rolle line up every play because they might play 8 or so yards off the line MORE often than Buffalo does. Philly lines Samuel and co. that deep less often than Buffalo does, but it is far more often than your random Fewell hater would ever dream it could be.

I want a more aggressive coordinator who can get the most of out his players.

I wouldn’t mind a DC who has a more aggressive midset, but I do think that Fewell gets the most out of his players. I would say he had one or maybe two above average players on that defense and a few guys who are below average and an offense that didn’t help them out too much and they still finished right in the middle of the pack. It wasn’t a unit that underacheived. Whether a few moves and a new mindset could make them MUCH better IS debatable. In fact, I might throw up an entire fanpost about the different defensive systems in the league right now, who plays what, how each one works, strengths and weaknesses of each type of things. Would people be interested in that? One thing I do well is research so it would be a very specific wirte up.

We HAVE to make the playoffs next year, and maybe even win a game, if he is to keep his job.

Do you honestly believe that? With the Bills tough schedule next year would 10-6 not be enough? What if this team goes 11-5, gets a wildcard berth when NE goes 12-4 or 13-3 or whatever and loses to a really tough division winner like Indy, Tennesse, Baltimore or whoever and loses. Is Jauron STILL a goner?

Why no quick slants? Why no bubble screens?

I’m honestly not sure if Evans is that guy. I think he only runs routes like a true stud when he can run straight for 15 yards to start each route. He isn’t bad with the ball in his hands, but he is more of a get what the defense gives you after the catch then a guy who actually creates yards. And slants are typically for smaller guys who have a knack for avoiding contact or for bigger guys who can absorb contact.

Why so few deep balls?

I think this one is all Trent Edwards. Watching Evans, the coaches call plenty of deep routes.

Schouman does nothing for me.

I, like you, have no clue what people see in him.

I honestly think Bart Scott starting over Ellsion would make our defense worse. I know that nobody is probably going to agree with that, but he isn’t great at going sideline to sideline and calling him a liability in coverage is an understatement. I think he only fits in an attacking scheme and we certainly don’t have one of those. I understand everyone’s desire to add a big LB who is a good blitzer and has that “toughness” that everyone thinks the defense is missing, but we can’t add one of those guys who simply can’t cover. Versatility is only versatility if the player brings a new dimension to the team AND fits into what we currently do. I would throw Channing Crowder out too. I love him as a player, but I think the pricetag will be too high for a guy who would be good, but not great in our defense. I would honestly prefer a journeyman type player like Clark Haggans or a unknown like Kevin Burnett on the strong side than I would a high priced player who may flame out because his weaknesses will be exactly what the coaching staff asks them to do.

I think I still like my plan of moving Mitchell to the strong side and signing Nate Webster to a modest contract, especially if that frees up money to sign a good player like Berry, Meester, Jones or Philips AND a third decent FA like Heath Evans, Hangartner, Jovan Haye, CJ Mosley, James Sanders or whoever else AND the vet QB of their choosing. I think that is a realistic FA season where the team can add an above average starter who can be a solution to a position for 3-5 years and maybe more while still adding a nice speedy player in Nate Webster and another decent piece and the necessary Edwards insurance policy.

I have no interest in signing a Bryant Johnson type WR if he can’t come in and replace Josh Reed AND play decently better than Reed. What is the point of brining in a vet who will only play in multiple WR sets or certain situations while pushing Johnson and Hardy down the depth chart? I also think a 6th WR, especially one who doesn’t play special teams could be a waste of a roster spot.

I think Everette Brown could only be this years Derrick Harvey if he adds 20 pounds like Harvey did.

Someone else mentioned it already, but Tate is long gone by the 7th round. He seems like a nice mid round pick despite blowing out his knee. Jack Ikegwuonu still went in the fourth round last year depsite blowing out his knee later in the season than Ikegwuonu. I feel like Tate should go somewhere around the 4-5th round this year.

by kaisertown on Jan 6, 2009 11:54 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Good response

I think it’s obvious, but we need more talent on D. Fewell would be much better with that, as any coach would.

We’ve got so much cap space, I’d love to actually use it to sign more than 2 mid tier guys like last year. Fill some holes and bring in a bigger name. Again, I doubt it happens.

I wasn’t comparing Brown to Harvey, just saying that I’ll probably be leading the draft Brown bandwagon, like I did the Harvey one last year….

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We’ve got so much cap space

I wonder if we could come up with an educated guess to the exact number of cash to cap dollars (signing bonuses and first year salaries of new players) this team has to spend during the offseason. I think I might actually make that my next fanpost project. I have like a million things floating around in my head right now.

by kaisertown on Jan 6, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haven’t we seen them exceed the so-called ‘cash to cap’? Like 2 years ago with the Dockery ($16M signing bonus), Walker ($10M signing bonus) and the Schobel (not sure of signing bonus, but probably at least $10M) and Kelsay ($8M signing bonus) resignings…Don’t they count these bonuses in the first year against the cap??? That’s over $40M right there…I could be totally wrong though.

Question, how do you think you’ll determine our cash to cap available space for this year? I know right now, we are under $100M for the cap, which is at least $25M in cap space for ‘09….I wonder how that’ll translate to cash to cap. It should be more, probably $30-$35M is my guess…

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 7, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well the Bills current official cap number is irrelevant. The salary cap number includes portions of old signing bonuses that the Bills have already paid off and the team doesn’t count those in the cash to cap philosophy. Think of cash to cap as a real dollars salary cap. The team has an amount of real dollars they are willing to spend next year on players.

So if I were to add up everybody’s 08 salaries and the signing bonuses that the new players got, we could figure out how much money they spent on players last year. And then we assume that the team wanted to spend a similiar amount this year. I think we could get a fairly accurate number for what the Bills will spend in real dollars this offseason (again that is signing bonus money + first year salaries) by simply subtracting all of the 09’ salaries of everyone under contract and approximately what it would take to sign all the draft picks.

Does that make sense?

by kaisertown on Jan 7, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes

i would love to see how much they spent in 08

Players guaranteed bonuses handed out in 2008 (draft picks and extendables like Butler, Williams) + contract of what they made in 08 = total amount of dollars spent in 2008

?

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 7, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would very much enjoy a detailed post on the different defenses in the league.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Jan 6, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Concerns about edwards

apparently he might need shoulder surgery? hes had a concussion, an ankle sprain, and a groin sprain. now he has a problem with his shoulder? wtf. i mean seriously hows he getting so hurt? It is a little concerning if hes goin to continue missing 3-4 games a season because of injury.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3812367&searchName=clayton_john&campaign=rsssrch&source=john+clayton&action=login&appRedirect=http3a2f2finsider.espn.go.com2fespn2fblog2findex%

by billsstein on Jan 6, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Very concerning

He just seems very injury prone. It doesn’t help that he looks so dang skinny out there. I know he had added muscle weight last offseason, but he still needs to be able to absorb hits even better…

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I rec’d this so that I will have time to read the whole thing before it goes off the front page.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 6, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We sure have nice looking uniforms. So we got that going for us. Which is nice.

Craig.

by taskersd on Jan 6, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

correct

and i said to the Lama……how bout a little something for the effort? He said there would be no money…..but on my death bed I will receive total consciousness……so I got that going for me which is nice

I’m not concerned about anything. I think ralph wilson has it all under control. Its part of a master plan to bring a Super Bowl to Buffalo….(oh wait, I was day-dreaming typing this)

 In all seriousness. Just go get some guys this off-season. Lets make 2009 playoffs or bust.

FYI, a “state of the union address” from me will be coming in the next week as I work on it in my mancave. its called a “teaser” in the blogging business. Not that anybody cares

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Jan 6, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gotta love Caddyshack quotes.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Jan 6, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the worst-looking hat I ever saw...

What, when you buy a hat like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh?

Don't forget to pay the troll toll...

by evdawg419 on Jan 6, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s off to shoot gazelle after practice

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha. I was just going to say that I think that is the free hat that every senior citizen gets for going on an all inclusive African safari.

by kaisertown on Jan 6, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indiana Jauron?

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Jan 8, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Quick........

Someone by him a whip……..and have his wife show him how to use it :-)

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"

by Joe P. on Jan 8, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any PhotoShop experts out there? An Indiana Jauron pic would be fantastic.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 8, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What, when you buy a hat like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh?

But it looks great on you…

by thefourwinds on Jan 8, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That hat DJ is wearing is none other than a genuine Tilley hat made in Canada. It was invented specifically to protect the face and ears from too much sun exposure. The company has made gobs of money on that hat. DJ is not a youngster anymore and he probably has the typical kind of skin that is very suseptible to damage. He’s a paleface like many of us. If he has had any precancerous leisons or dry spots that hat is good insurance. Looks nerdy but the joys of aging have caught up with him.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Jan 13, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Amazing post man !

This is one of he best post i’ve ever read about the bills situation. MAybe i don’t agree with all you think about it, but i saw many comments here who expressed many of my disagrees.

Maybe i’m the only one here who has some hope about our coaching staff. As every Bills fan I wanted all go to the hell at the end of the season. But now, I hope and pray they have learned this season what they can’t do next season. Maybe, if they learned their lesson we will get out of mediocrity and see a team with desire !

I don’t like to talk about draft now because the FA period can change so many things for many team, but I’d like to see a draft who can make bills a stronger defense next year. Defense wins games, everybody knows that. I what to see a stronger, athletic defense who can create fear on the other teams !! But it’s only my dream seeing the playoffs LOL

FA period, I Agree with you in many of your picks. I think this FA window is the time to know if we are going to make big changes, or we are going to stay at mediocrity. Maybe the money we don’t spend firing DJ are going to be used in FA who can be playmakers.

Well that is it. Very good job Kurupt, I hope we can see Bills going to a win direction this year !

P.S. – Guys, sorry about my poor english. I only pratice here, i hope you understand !

by hightower_mc on Jan 6, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That was just impressive

I’m not a huge fan of Painter, but he might make a decent backup QB. Maybe.

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Jan 7, 2009 6:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, you weren’t kidding. Long post.

The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ

by NYTXFAN on Jan 9, 2009 12:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What i'm thinking is that...

no matter how awesome the majority of that mock draft would be, that front office will never draft that way. Just look at the past 3 seasons to see some of their reaches and questionable moves.

I see Peters wanting out if things drag on much longer. There’s no reason not to have his contract signed, sealed, and delivered within the next 2 weeks.

Please Buffalo, draft some DEs. The more the merrier!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 9, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, I don’t know about the next 2 weeks, but definitely before training camp. That’s for sure.

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 10, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They could easily wait until after the draft to do it

I don’t think they should since they will be negotiating with draft picks then but they could wait that long

by MattRichWarren on Jan 10, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you and K. As long as they sign him before OTAs or whenever Peters has a chance to officially start holding out, then it’s no big deal.

by kaisertown on Jan 10, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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