Buffalo Rumblings Community Needs List, Take One
Over the past week or so, we here at Buffalo Rumblings have begun the grueling off-season process of figuring out exactly where and how the Buffalo Bills need to improve to make a playoff push in 2009. This effort, currently in its initial phase dubbed our State of the Roster series, will eventually culminate in the assembly of a prioritized Community Needs List, where every single need the Bills carry into the 2009 off-season will be made known to those who run the franchise. (At least, that would be awesome.)
I'm the kind of guy that is obsessed with organization and being on the same page as everybody else. So unlike last year, when we ripped through our State of the Roster series and threw our Needs List together once those reviews were finished, this year we're going to keep our Needs List a work in progress as we work through the positional reviews. Thus, we'll begin prioritizing the work we've already done right now.
What follows are the needs we've already identified, the players we've identified as contract extension-worthy, and the players we'd like to see take a hike. If you don't agree with the names or positions on this list, don't feel bad (unless you aren't part of these discussions) - this is a majority opinion. We'll vote on the positions to get as many opinions in as possible, but the prioritization of extensions and expulsions will remain a discussion rather than a vote. So if you're of the mind that extending Fred Jackson is more critical to this team's success than extending Jason Peters, vote in the poll and click on past the jump to read, digest and leave your thoughts on players themselves.
Extendables
RB Fred Jackson - As an Exclusive Rights Free Agent, the Bills have exclusive negotiating rights with Jackson. The near-consensus opinion here, however, is that Jackson is worthy of an ACTUAL contract extension to keep him in Buffalo long-term.
OT Jason Peters - We know he wants a new deal. The Bills know he wants a new deal. Can the team get it done before he gets whiny about it again? All we know for sure is that there is a growing contingent of Bills fans who believe that Peters will be traded in the off-season if negotiations go slowly, and those beliefs are being fueled by media-types picking up on the idea.
OT Kirk Chambers - Established himself as a valuable reserve in 2008. He's an unrestricted free agent, and thus can sign with any team he wishes. Should be loyal to Buffalo if they show interest in re-signing him, considering it was the Bills who gave him his first real chance at playing at the NFL level.
Expendables
QB J.P. Losman - Not only is Losman expendable, but there is quite literally zero chance he's back in a Bills uniform in 2009. I'll allow you a moment to weep softly for our former starter before we move on. OK, let's move on.
FB Corey McIntyre - The consensus here seems to be "good special teams guy, terrible lead blocker". Can you imagine just how devastatingly awesome Marshawn Lynch and Jackson would be if they didn't have to do everything themselves? Blocking FB is on the needs list, and McIntyre is likely on his way out.
TE Robert Royal - There were some opinions expressed (well) here that Royal might stay. That's not really a scary thought; Royal can be effective in a situational role. That said, if the Bills feel they need to cut Royal to make room for a difference-maker at tight end, they'll cut the cord quickly - the cap hit would be small, and the team has two young players they like at the position for depth.
0 recs |
102 comments
Comments
Out of the list given.........I say TE....
only because its the most pressing of those given……..Somebody go wake up Jay R……from retirement and lets solve this bad boy.
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 5, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, obviously the most oft-discussed needs aren’t here yet, but only because we haven’t covered those positions yet.
Seriously? No one wants to make the case for extending Jackson before Peters? I thought someone would jump on that…
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was wondering that too Brian. Hard to argue with that whole “franchise left tackle” thing he has going on for him.
even if he’s anonying and a “me” first person. gotta give him his due.
pay him and lock that position up for the long term
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously? No one wants to make the case for extending Jackson before Peters? I thought someone would jump on that…
I don’t care what order, just get them both done.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Extending Jackson should be much less complicated then working Peters’ deal so I would think if OBD is serious about Jackson it should get done relatively quick.
by gatornation on Jan 5, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe Vet QB
doesn’t have more votes!!!! When (not if) Edwards goes down…..who you got steering the Titanic?
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on Jan 5, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
not JP
i think that satisifies most of us
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, not JP
Did I miss the point of the poll?
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on Jan 5, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
na
just really happy its not him…might be the reason why not getting much attention
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But but, in honor of all the INTs and Fumbles JP has given us, I have been growing a neck beard since X-Mas
And I think its coming in fantasically! My wife hates it! I have to keep it! When it gets nasty enough I will have my new Avatar, WBillsFan- Terror Bear.
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
by WABillsfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!
But be careful. When mom is not happy, nobody is happy!!!!
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on Jan 5, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you wear a helmet we might not notice the change.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nor if I actually play on the field
Since my whole HS/College career I played either TE, DE, or T on the field, along with some DT in a pinch if we were short bodies. I couldn’t do worse could I? Well maybe die when getting steamrolled by somebody like Kris Jenkins? Nah, I could give you plenty of INTs and Fumbles! And I would come cheap too!
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
by WABillsfan on Jan 6, 2009 3:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not on the List
I picked WR – but I think it’s a Center. We can’t run up the middle (even with a beast at running back) and that needs to change, before anything else WILL change.
by D.C. Fan on Jan 5, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i went WR#2 also – I think edwards needs that even more than TE.
Lee needs it too
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With all the other holes, I am hoping Johnson fills this one.
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on Jan 5, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bryant?
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i ask because veteran WR was on the list and I wouldn’t qualify Steve a veteran yet. I remember Bryant Johnson being coveted by some people here
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want Panda
I don’t care what anyone says, I’m back on the Panda bandawagon!
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gimme some Panda
He’ll play for 1 year again, and then Stevie can take his job, nice how it all works out eh?
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
by WABillsfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point, but I was talking about Steve J.
I am not opposed to Panda either.
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on Jan 5, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, center isn’t on the list because we haven’t reviewed that position yet. Once we do, we’ll incorporate it into our already-prioritized list. :)
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
QB
seems to me the most critical
Think about it, a decent back up could have won us maybe three more games.
A TE is great, but an decent back up can utilize our current guys and keep us a decent offensive levels.
by Ono on Jan 5, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess the question comes down to this: do you want to help develop your starting quarterback, or cover your arse if he fails?
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not fails, just gets injured and misses a few games.
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on Jan 5, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TE, TE, TE
this is really simple. No brainer.
Look at Edwards: He is not a gun slinger. Is not that mobile. Doesnt scramble. Is destined to be a system QB. Although you could argue what the hell kind of system is Turk Schonert running. But, for him to be successful TE is like the huge Pimple right between your date’s eyes on prom night. It’s so friggn obvious. He needs more Josh Reed’s than he does Lee Evans, let’s put it that way. He needs guys that get open, know how to find spots in the zone. He has Josh Reed, so now he needs that version in a big, tough, strong TE that can roam that middle of the field. If you have that, then Trent has some serious options. He throws to the TE and Reed on short throws, Lynch/Jackson i the flats, and then can take his shots deep to Lee. Not to mention that TE that is productive does wonders in the Red ZONE!
I know we need a backup QB cuz Trent has shown he is injury prone. But, get him a TE, a Jason Peters in camp from the start, and the likiliness of him getting hurt will be less. But I’d rather have Hamdan and a stud TE, than a good backup QB and Robert Royal any day of the week
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Jan 5, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the term "system QB"........
because every QB plays in a system…..and therefor…….that makes him a system QB…….
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 5, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Favre doesn't play in a system
He just plays. Sometimes it works wonderfully well, like during the Green Bay playoff run last season. Sometimes it doesn’t work out very well at all, like during the overtime period of their playoff loss against the Giants. I guess you could call it the Favre System but, frankly, I don’t think even he would describe what he does as systematic…
by Ron From NM on Jan 5, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Favre has played in the same system for the majority of his career. That’s why teams keep hiring coaches that Favre is familiar with – they know he’ll suck outside of that system, just like he sucked in New York this year. Why do you think the Jets are even sniffing around Jeff Jagodzinski for their head coaching job? Why did the Packers hire Mike Sherman and then Mike McCarthy after Holmgren left town? They’re all guys that worked with Favre and they’re all guys who ran Holmgren’s offense. Favre, more than most NFL quarterbacks, is a system quarterback. (Sorry, norcali…)
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think coaches have been hired who will allow Favre to be Favre. You can call it a system if you want but he’s just too erratic (often brilliant, sometimes awful) to be a system QB.
by Ron From NM on Jan 5, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well Hamdam is a system quarterback too.....
I dont see teams breaking his door down with offers ;)
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 5, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats because his system sucks.
BTW nice new avatar. You need more of the kid though, nobody wants to see the father’s mug, it’s the little girl that makes the picture, believe me I know.
Speaking of avatars, I’ve been meaning to ask. Brian what the hell is that?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sireric is right,
As much as I don’t want to give the Bills anymore of my money, I would be all over getting her a little “Jills” outfit!!!!
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations"
by Joe P. on Jan 5, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a outfit I got from the Bills store..........
however I got it so she could wear for next season (seeing as I didnt think she would be here in time for this season) and I bought it before the season went down the tubes……lol
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 6, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That my friend is an image of the charecter "Rohrsach" from The Watchmen
Perhaps one of the most influential and outstanding graphic novels/comis series ever created. Alan Moore wrote up a wonderfully dark, thought provoking, soul searching look at humanity and superheros (vigilanties if you prefer) ever done. Go to your local library and take a gander, or go buy it, you will NOT be disappointed.
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
by WABillsfan on Jan 5, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Every time I hear someone talk about Watchmen my thirst to see the movie increases.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2009 6:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good point so I changed it.......
she’s cuter than me anyways…….
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 6, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Based on the two pics you’ve used I would have to agree.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 6, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha ouch....lol
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 6, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My avatar is the vigilante Rorschach from Watchmen. I’m a little too geeked about that movie coming out (theoretically; damn lawsuits) in March…
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2009 6:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was on IMDB and checked out the trailers for the new Terminator and X-men origins flicks. I’m super pumped to watch them. Or geeked if you will.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 6, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wolverine looks good, and I’m hoping it sells well, because they’ve got a Magneto one lined up to pump out if Wolverine does well. I’m still skeptical on Terminator because of McG, but the trailer did look awesome.
Other than Watchmen, I’m really looking forward to Public Enemies (Depp, Bale) and potentially Sherlock Holmes. Monsters vs Aliens looks promising as well, but only because Seth Rogen, Rainn Wilson and Stephen Colbert voice characters in it.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait to see John Wraith and Deadpool in action.
I don’t think you need to worry about it selling well.
Everyone was skeptical of T3 because Cameron wasn’t involved, but it was pretty good IMHO.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 6, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t actually a huge fan of T3. Salvation looks better.
And yes. Deadpool is the real reason I’ll be watching that movie.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahah
He’s played by Kelly Leak from the Bad News Bears!!!
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha definitely! That just makes him more awesome in my book.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a TV show right? What channel is it on? I’d like to check it out, and check out the movie, seems pretty sweet….
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It started as a movie, and CBS had a TV series based on it in the late 70s, but apparently it sucked.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought there was a TV show recently, as in the past few months,haha
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That I’m not aware of, but it’s entirely possible. I tend to focus on only the shows I watch on TV – in this case, Chuck, Heroes, House and The Office.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like there was this past summer…
Seems like you would have heard about this, you are all over the one word named TV shows it looks like. I bet you like Lost too…
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and by summer
i mean fall/winter
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like Lost, but only because I’ve never seen a single episode of it. And I hated Fringe; stopped watching after a few episodes. Not my cup of tea.
I thought you were talking about a Bad News Bears TV show. Honestly had heard nothing about the Watchmen TV series, likely due to my infatuation with everything to do with the comic and the movie, and it’s probably for the better that I didn’t see it.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha Bad News Bears TV show, that’d be pretty sweet. Actually, it’d probably be horrible.
I don’t even know what channel the Watchmen 7 episodes were on….must have been pretty bad
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
out of that list
It’s definitely a pass catching TE..Jauron’s passivity has already trickled down and effected Edwards (hopefully not forever, but we’ll see). If he’s going to look to RBs, TEs, and slow possession receivers like Reed and Johnson on 3rd downs, he’s going to need a game breaker somewhere in there as an underneath guy. You can only dink and dump down the field so many times before something is bound to go wrong and that’s the true drawback of the conservative offenses that Jauron has employed over the course of his losing career. A holding penalty, a sack, a fumble, a dropped pass, something bad is going to happen to kill a drive if you rely on playing most possessions one set of downs at a time. Edwards could really use a TE that could grab chunks of yards in single play from time to time and Buffalo doesn’t have anyone like that on their current roster. Robert Royal can’t walk and chew gum at the same time, so that’s the place where an upgrade appears to be the most pressing. Jauron’s roster is a mess, however, and with so many holes on the lines, can Buffalo afford to use a pick on a true difference maker at TE in the first two rounds of the draft? They may need to get creative and look for a younger player at the position who’s buried on someone else’s depth chart (like Miami did with Fasano)…what’s Fred Davis doing these days?
by Benjamin Salem on Jan 5, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It depends on whether or not McIntyre’s contract is up at the end of the year. If it is, then I think FB is our most pressing need, but it should be easy to fill (they aren’t too expensive and they don’t go too high in the draft)
If we ignore that, here’s my order:
QB
TE
RB
I honestly think that we need to give Johnson a shot because we won’t be getting a starting caliber vet WR.
by Hopefulcynic on Jan 5, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure why McIntyre’s contract status would matter; as Ron From NM will attest to, McIntyre can’t lead block to save his life.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think FB is any teams most pressing need – IMO
I also think we can get a vet QB pretty much with little issues in the offseason. A lot of those guys are journeymen and would be fine here.
We really need C, DE, TE, S holes to be filled. WR#2 could use a huge upgrade – there are a few names that we could go after. B. Johson or TJ whosyourdaddy would be excellent number 2’s
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he just meant he’d put FB atop this list.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh i know…i think it applies to any list really
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think McIntyre was listed as a UFA on buffalobills.com
Chris Brown seemed to indicate that the Bills would make no effort to re-sign him. He was a stop gap to replace the initial stop gap (Barnes) since Buffalo didn’t pick up a FB in the draft. McIntyre does make contact with defenders (which was an improvement over Barnes) but can’t get defenders out of the way, or even keep them from making tackles in spite of McIntyre’s block.
I voted for a blocking FB though not because I think it’s a more pressing need than a pass catching TE. I just don’t have any faith in OBD’s ability to acquire (free agency/draft) a stud C. With Preston, or someone of his ilk, manning C a blocking FB becomes a critical need.
by Ron From NM on Jan 5, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very good point, maybe we should get the road grader FB from Syracuse in the 5th
He at least likes to punish defensive players every chance he gets.
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
by WABillsfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t call Fiametta a road grader. He is more of a well rounded fullback who can block and catch and do everything else that the coaches ask, but is more of a jack of all trades and a master of none than anything else. I love Fiametta, but would prefer a true blocking FB in the Lorenzo Neal mold.
by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, guys that get signed mid season always sign one year deals. McIntyre will almost certainly be a UFA this offseason.
by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have picked QB if I thought this team could make a Super Bowl run next year, but if this team falls apart if/when a backup has to come in for Edwards (see 2008: Losman, JP) then it isn’t the end of the world for me because they aren’t going anywhere with this team next season as it is.
Since my goal is to truly compete in 2-3 years then I put the team’s needs in this order:
TE
FB
QB
WR
RB
Jackson and Peters are both pretty much stuck here, but since Peters can make a MUCH bigger fuss about it, then that alone makes him 10x more important to give a new contract too than Jackson.
by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pass catching TE is my pick, though I really think we need a guy at each position.
TE
Backup QB
Vet WR
FB that can walk
3rd RB
is the order
I don’t think TE is going to be the first position filled though. It won’t be happening before the draft unless we make a trade, which I doubt happens. One of our first priorities needs to be backup QB, someone who is competent enough to win a few games if need be.
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
K – I think WR#2 is more important than our backup QB. Unless by Vet WR we aren’t talking about WR#2. I think we will be able to pickup Garcia, Boller, Batch or Ramsy. One of those guys I’m betting will be a Bill next year and I think WR#2 is tougher to find (in the quality dept.) and thus more important. am I wrong on this?
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider
by J2 on Jan 5, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not wrong at all....
but I think there aren’t that many backup QB’s worth pursuing….I just think OBD really needs to work hard to get a good backup in place. You can rank them 2a and 2b if you like, and I think I will put them that way on my list above. We do need a good #2 WR, but we also need a good #2 QB. To-may-toes, To-Mah-toes
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh lord Batch only out of that list
Boller- JP redux as far as sucking in our O
Garcia- Will demand and campaign to be the starter even if he is brought in ONLY as a backup and mentor
Ramsey- Ummm, please see Boller above
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
by WABillsfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Viable third running back
This makes me laugh.
Judging by the way the voting is going I would say that it is pretty obvious that this team has much more substantial needs then replacing Omon. I must repeat my stance on this, I think it is silly to worry about replacing a guy who never saw the field last year because of the two studs ahead of him. Not only that, how do you know that Omon isn’t a viable option? Because he didn’t blow everyone away in the pre-season? A 6th round pick from a division II school. How much should he do in the preseason? I would say that a year on the bench has done him some good. Running backs are a dime a dozen in the NFL, so I say; Keep Omon let him be the #3 guy. If injuries occur and he is forced into action then you will soon know what you have got in him. If he fails, then pick up a street FA and go from there. The Bengals picked up Cedric Benson this year in like week 12 and look what he did for them.
I’m not sure why this is even on the list.
Use the money you would have spent on a #3 RB and use it to get yourself a better back-up QB so you don’t have to pickup a guy like Patrick Ramsey and pray he doesn’t ever see the field.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Would you rather sign a veteran third back to compete with Omon – because competition for #25 is a virtual certainty – or waste yet another draft pick on said competition?
Me, I’m looking for a vet.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about practice squad guy like Hall, and a UDFA or 2. Does it have to be a draft pick?
I guess I’m just not very concerned about competion for a guy who is:
a) easily replaced if he prove he can’t do the job
b) never saw the field last year anyway
c) COULD still be an effective NFL RB.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, if you bring a vet, you could be all but wasting a draft pick anyway (the 6th used on Omon.)
So in either scenario you are wasting a draft pick.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey – we’ve kept four running backs before. And as I’ve said, Lynch gets dinged (or nauseous), and Jackson has been sore from time to time as well. There were a handful of times this year when one of them was out for a stretch of the game and we were down to one running back and a green rookie. I don’t want that to happen again next season, especially if we’re basing our offense around our two backs.
Buffalo Rumblings - all you care to know about the Buffalo Bills and more
by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you are intent on keeping 4 backs, then I say o.k. I just don’t like dumping Omon already, I feel like he hasn’t had a chance to prove himself and we are ready to replace him already.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Jan 5, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He can go to the PS next season too….Not like we’d be dumping him if we brought in another guy….
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Omon doesn’t have practice squad eligibility left unless he literally doesn’t make anyone else’s roster. I don’t think it is a risk worth taking.
by kaisertown on Jan 6, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re probably right. I forgot he was on the active roster for 16 games.
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 2:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I too would go the undrafted free agent way. I think the 3rd RB job is so unimportant that I wouldn’t even jepordize a potential comp pick by signing a mediocre vet RB. We don’t need a Josh Scobey situation all over again. Two decent undrafted RBs (or one RB and bring back Bruce Hall to camp) will be enough competition for Omon to keep me happy.
by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We won’t be sacrificing any compensatory picks this year (for 2010). Other than Greer and Crowell, who exactly are guys other teams will be falling all over themselves to sign? I think we sign at least 3-4 FA’s this year to negate any chance for picks next year. Of course, we could lose Fowler, Preston, Chambers, Wilson and Scott I guess….
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Bills won’t have to do much to get comp picks in the 2010 draft. If Crowell leaves (we both think he will), Greer leaves on a pretty big contract (again, we both think he will), Fowler and Preston find reserve roles and JP Losman finds a backup job. If the Bills then sign one good free agent and two or so more decent ones who make the team, then we probably end up with a 6th round pick. One or two more decent FAs like a unnecessary runningback or something similiar and the Bills end up with a 7th rounder or nothing at all.
by kaisertown on Jan 6, 2009 1:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tight end first
Hey guys. Long time reader, first time posting. I agree with Marv on this. With a stud tight end and Edwards’ quick release I think the likelyhood of needing a backup QB is decreased. As teams learn to respect our short game the long ball will open up more. I have to believe safeties will need to pull off from Evans to cover a good tight end. It might be the piece that allows all the rest to function as it should.
by Chazjr on Jan 5, 2009 6:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
stud tight ends
aren’t easy to find. at this point any upgrade over Royal would be welcomed. FA probably won’t render a TE for the team so the draft is the only option at this point.
by gatornation on Jan 5, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, FA TEs, just like last year blow.
Daniels would be the only guy I would consider, and he is a RFA and will be hit with either the highest or second highest tender by Houston, so that pushes the TE into the draft for a difference maker. I went #2 WR because I think out of the above list, it is the most doable in FA, leaving us all of our draft picks.
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
by WABillsfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree that its the easiest
but I dont think that makes it the most pressing. IMO a TE would keep the safeties honest and they couldn’t sit ontop of all of Evans’s deep routes like they currently do.
by JPH on Jan 6, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a different thought
In FA
sign a Center – Brad Meester JAX
and a true FB – Heath Evans or Terelle Smith
and a veteran #2 WR – Bryant, Panda, Reggie Williams, Demetrius Williams
Then use the draft on OLB at #1, DE at #2, TE at #3
by freddyjj on Jan 5, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Still need a C in the draft, Meester would be a decent pickup, but we need a long term answer there.
Now if only this gopher could play DE, we would be doing better, I mean, who couldn't play better than the corpse brothers Kelsay and Denney?
by WABillsfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
call me a romantic
…but i just love the idea of Alex Mack anchoring an great Bills line for the next 20 years. Centers play forever, and if we had continuity in the middle of that line, it’d be a nice thing. We haven’t had a real center since Kent Hull.
by JPH on Jan 6, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
20 years?
Jeesh, I hope the world still exists then
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t want to draft a player if he is going to be dragging us down when he is 45 years old!
by kaisertown on Jan 6, 2009 1:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tell that to kevin Mawae.
he’s pretty good for 37 years old.
but yes, i wouldnt suggest signing them to a 20 yr contract. seems a little hasty.
by JPH on Jan 6, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Def TE
Hopefully this organization will go against that b.s. company line of only going after well rounded tight ends. Trent doesn’t exactly have the arm to gun it all over the field could really benefit from having an athletic presence in the middle of the field. Plus, how can this organization expect to find a great well rounded NFL tight end if they never take one in the first day of the draft?..(aside from Gates who luckily plopped in the Chargers lap, andI don’t give the Bills organization the credit of being able to find such a talent).
Don't forget to pay the troll toll...
by evdawg419 on Jan 6, 2009 12:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
TE = No Brainer!!!
If Trent had someone to dump the ball off to or to simply whip the ball at when he is taking to much heat, Trent would be upright more often than not! He has a very good offensive line and two great running backs, but no real safety valve. IMO if the Bills had traded for Tony Gonzalez I do believe that we would be watching them on television STILL!!!
Did anyone see Bart Scott in the Miami game??? Sign that guy in the offseason!!!!
"Live life, Love life and Laugh at life."
"Optimism is the key to Everything."
"Never have a rear view mirror in life."
by Cutter3636 on Jan 6, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Until I am blue in the Face
the Bills will not draft a center in the first round. I told everyone on this site that they would not draft a DE last year and look what happened. I said it would be a CB or I would eat crow. This is the year they draft either a DE or a LB. Mark my words you heard it hear first!!
I really think they draft Magualga ( terrible spelling) or a big DE.
Everyone should however be on the CHRIS CANTY BANDWAGON!!! 6’7" 300lbs!!!!
"Live life, Love life and Laugh at life."
"Optimism is the key to Everything."
"Never have a rear view mirror in life."
by Cutter3636 on Jan 6, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Are we going to trade a high pick for Canty?
That’s what it’ll take….once he is tendered
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Canty is a UFA. He is going to get a huge contract and has absolutely no pass rushing ability though. He isn’t even a good pass rusher for a defensive tackle. I couldn’t be less interested in Chris Canty.
by kaisertown on Jan 6, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your right, I was thinking about his status from last year, I suppose. Oops
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed about a LB
Although I would love to see Buffalo Draft a USC LB either Cushing or Malauga and then run the 3-4 again, I miss the days of the Buffalo D that could get into your face
by ballinbills1315 on Jan 6, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They aren't going to switch to a 3-4.
They don’t have the nose tackle for it and Jauron has never run it. Get your hopes down, guys, unless they hire a new D Coordinator and/or head coach.
by MattRichWarren on Jan 8, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

by 
























