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Paul Posluszny: Is he overrated?

I have been hearing lots of talk recently about Paul Posluszny not living up to expectations.  Trying to get a jump before Brian does his list of needs for the defense, I wanted to discuss the notion of Poz as an underachiever. I have been one of Poz's strongest supporters.  I am also a huge Poz fan, maybe on name and reputation only. 

I am a stats guy as many of you know.  First, I want to mention that tackles are not an exact statistic so if you go to FOX Sports or Yahoo Sports, you may get different numbers than I used.  I used the nfl.com stats. (BuffaloBills.com gave Poz 129 tackles.)

We have essentially one year of Poz stats and video to watch after his arm break in the third game of his rookie season.  In his first year, he averaged about 10 tackles a game which would average out to 160 over a 16 game season.

Poz tied with Lance Briggs of the Bears and ranked 24th in the league (16th among inside or middle linebackers) with 110 tackles.  His 87 solo tackles tied him with James Farrior for 18th (11th among interior linebackers).  He tied for 15th amongst linebackers in passes defended and had one interception, one forced fumble, and one recovered fumble.  These are an above-average to average starter's numbers for team-leading tacklers.

Compared to his draft classmates, Poz is on par with his draft order.  He was the third linebacker drafted in 2007 and is ranked third behind other second-year 'backers Jon Beason (Carolina) and Patrick Willis (49ers) in tackles this year.  Jerod Mayo, this year's Defensive Rookie of the Year, is the only rookie linebacker to have more tackles than Poz this year with 128. 

This year's league tackles leader, D'Qwell Jackson of the Browns, is in his third year and had 154 tackles this year, but 101 tackles in his second year.  Fourth overall, Barrett Ruud of the Bucs, had 137 tackles this year, with 114 last year.  I make these comparisons to show the leap that Poz is capable of making next year in his second full season starting.

I am a numbers guy mainly because I like having something concrete to base my opinions on.  Statistics are the easiest way to prove a point.  But I want to speak just from my opinion for a second.  When I see the defense flowing to the ball, I see Poz's jersey in and around the pile.  He has a nose for the ball carrier.  I don't remember seeing him miss an open field tackle or whiff on a sack - not that he gets the opportunity to rush the QB often.  He calls the defensive plays, plays virtually every snap, and is the heartbeat of the defense. 

To call him an underachiever at this point in his career is premature.  He's not a human highlight reel or an outspoken media-hawk.  He will never be Ray Lewis with a microphone, but he does give a straight-forward interview, right Brian?  He is not going to deliver bone-jarring hits but he gets the job done a lot like the man he replaced, London Fletcher.

I guess what I am trying to say is that I don't understand where this underachiever talk is coming from.  He led the team in tackles by over thirty tackles! His numbers stack up against those drafted near him or ahead of him.  What more do you want from the guy?

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How do you rate Paul Posluszny's performance this year?
Superstar Caliber
18 votes
Very Good Starter
320 votes
Average at Best
146 votes
Sub-par Performer
8 votes
Time For a Change
1 votes

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Poz Overrated?? NOT A CHANCE!! This past year was his first FULL year playing every game and he was awesome!! Poz will grow a lot behind the ears and in stature and he WILL be one of the best LB’s in the league, mark my words. I do believe that he belongs on the outside, as he is not the big, bulking guy that can shed blocks and get after the tailback, but the Bills needed him inside and he answered the bell.

Poz is only going to get better with time and he played his tail off this season, lining up the whole defense and making what 120 tackles?? Leave Poz alone and start talking about our LACK OF PASS RUSH.

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by Cutter3636 on Jan 7, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thank you cutter

as my namesake may indicate, I am a huge Poz fan and not without reason. His rookie year I loved what I saw from him early and I remember after he was drafted I had bought his jersey the next day because I expected such great things from him.

I agree with Cutter completely, Poz will develop into one of the best linebackers in the NFL as he plays with heart every play and looks to be a reasonably intelligent young man. Plus, he has demonstrated he has his priorities straight, has a good sense of honor, and knows the things that are important in this world by his Christmas trip to Iraq last year.

What is not to like? He hunts down the ball. One of the reasons you never hear me trashing our recent drafting is because it is hard to fault a strategy that landed us our franchise running back, linebacker, and quarterback in one year.

For a rookie season he was phenomenal. Just watch, he’s the kind of guy who is going to get noticeably better every single year.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 7, 2009 11:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For a rookie season he was phenomenal.

Phenomenal? Easy, killer. Poz was pretty good, and you’re not getting any complaints from me about his play, but “phenomenal” is laying it on a bit too thick. Patrick Willis had a phenomenal rookie season – 142 tackles, a sack, a pick, and an 86-yard touchdown. Then he capped it off with 174 tackles and 4 sacks this year. He is phenomenal, and Poz is clearly a class or two below him.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 8, 2009 8:37 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Derp… I’m a moron. I had Willis’ stats backwards. He had 141 tackles THIS year, and 174 with 4 sacks as a rook. Which really only further validates my point. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 8, 2009 8:48 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fine fine

for a rookie season he was great. point it, to call the guy overrated at this stage is ludicrous. Its like saying McKelvin is overrated. Fans being excited about a young players potential doesn’t mean they are overrating him.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 8, 2009 11:38 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rookie season?

Why is it still referred to as a “rookie season”?

Poz has been in the system for 2 years. Just because he only played 3 games, doesn’t mean he was a rookie or should even be viewed as one. He had an ok season this year, nothing more, nothing less. There’s no way he should be given ‘credit’ for only playing in 3 games prior. He didn’t look any better this year than he did in those games….

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by Kurupt on Jan 8, 2009 3:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This past year was his first FULL year playing every game and he was awesome!!

The last part, at the very least, is debatable. “Awesome” is a term interpreted differently by everyone, and I don’t know if I’d apply it to a guy who had one pick, one fumble forced and one fumble recovered.

Leave Poz alone and start talking about our LACK OF PASS RUSH.

Well, that’s kind of a topic of conversation basically every day – lack of pass rush, I mean – so it’s not like we’re ignoring it.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 8, 2009 8:33 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He better learn to make his presence felt more often.

When I think of great LB’s, I think of the guys who are constantly making plays and giving the O fits. I don’t see Poz being anywhere near that type of player, though I wouldn’t say he’s bad. He’s a solid player that seems a step slow or out of place a lot. He’s a pretty good tackler, but really what else does he do for us?

I hope he gets better because to me, any decent MLB can accrue a bunch of tackles. I want a game changer out there.

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by Kurupt on Jan 7, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

K said what I was going to say.

MLB accrue tackles because that is their job – what makes them special is making game changing plays. INT’s, forced fumbles, bone jarring hits – he doesn’t do this enough to be considering anything but average at this point. maybe he’ll jump to the next level in 2009, same can be said about Trent, S. Johnson as well.

At this point – he’s just pretty much average to above average. Needs to make more plays for the defense – maybe moving him outside will do this. regardless – it has to happen

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by J2 on Jan 8, 2009 9:00 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Steve Johnson

Man I hope you guys don’t kill him next year if he doesn’t pan out. Everyone is heaping such huge hopes on the kid.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 8, 2009 9:19 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no matt – that was my point. the same can be said about any of the young guys – but we’ll have to see how it works out because it doesn’t always work out. same with Poz – we can sit here and say he will improve – but until it happens on the field it doesn’t mean crap – same as Trent and S. Johnson.

make sense now? i didn’t make that clear in the other comment…my bad

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by J2 on Jan 8, 2009 9:36 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It seemed clear to me. I am a huge Steve Johnson fan an I believe that he will surprise a lot of people next season. That being said, if he doesn’t it won’t make him a Bust, he is a 7th rounder afterall – he’s already surpassed any expectation we could have had.

Poz is a solid guy that should continue to improve from year to year. I love his character & demeanor. I would like to see him blitzing more often instead of dropping back into coverage so deep, he is an aggressive tackler on run plays and I find plays often complete in front of him when he drops but that’s the downside of the friggin Tampa 2, isn’t it?

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by keysh67 on Jan 8, 2009 12:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But my secondary point is that he already has achieved

Yes I sqaid he has potential. But I also said he has been at the very least adequate. He is better than the majority of interior linebackers in the league. Johnson, on the other hand, has two TD catches and like 7 receptions right? Way too early to even call him serviceable.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 8, 2009 1:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want our D to have Willis, Peppers, Reed, Sanders, Freeney and Haynesworth. It doesn’t and it won’t.

Is Poz a great LB? No. Is he a starting caliber LB? Yes.

Was he overhyped? maybe, but I honestly don’t care. All i care about is whether or not he does his job. He does it. When a guy who plays the way Poz does now is a concern for our team we’ll be looking at division championships and deep playoff runs.

by Hopefulcynic on Jan 8, 2009 11:45 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

i don’t know what else to really expect from him. He isn’t a big time game-changing type player cuz he just doesn’t rush the QB that well and doesn’t blitz enough to do that. Sure more big hits, forced fumbles, INT’s would be nice, but Poz does his job. I think realistically, only playing like 2-3 games his rookie season, getting a full season this last year, playing with a new LB in Mitchell and all Poz did fine. He just needs to play and getting 16 full games in was big for him. Defense is won with the front 7 and the better we can make our DL and OLB position the better Poz and the secondary will be as a result. Lets just hope we can find those playmaking DE’s and one more DT to make that defense really thrive.

But as far as Poz underachieving? I don’t see that.

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by MARVelous on Jan 8, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I said very good starter.......

Well written Matt!

Like I’ve always said Poz just does his job…..he doesnt do it with all the flash and ferociousness of Ray Lewis….well because….there is only ONE Ray Lewis….Poz is more of the London Fletcher type….he just comes to work prepared and does what he needs to do….I have no complaints with him at all (except for maybe just MISSING that pass to Johnny Lee Higgins during the Raiders game……but it was nulled out because of a great last quarter by Edwards and the O……..anyways…..

If people are disappointed in Poz its only because of their own inflated expectations of the guy……He’s more than serviceable and I hope he’s a Bill for the next 10 years.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 8, 2009 1:18 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you have to admit

jumping to the NFL is a huge leap…even if you are a college superstar…only very few players have outstanding rookie seasons (which is what I considered this for Poz)…

one thing that people might not realize is his work ethic…poz will rival anybody for work ethic on and off the field…the kid is smart and strong and if he doesn’t understand he will learn

If i had to pick a defense I would choose him as the LB everytime(not necessarily MLB)…he is a great leader and he is just a class act, he is respectful and a great team player…give him time and freedom and he will show you why he was a two time Bednairk (sp) award winner

you have to remember MLB is a relatively new position for Poz he was an OLB basically his whole career and he just needs time to adjust…I personally believe he is coming along great and I can’t wait to watch this D next season

by Lion Alum on Jan 8, 2009 7:09 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If i had to pick a defense I would choose him as the LB everytime

I like the sentiment, but man, you’re passing on too many good linebackers to convincingly make a statement like that. Sorry. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 8, 2009 8:40 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice work, Matt. Put this on the front page, because this is a shining example of what the FanPost section is all about.

And yeah… Poz isn’t exactly an animal with a mic in his face.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 8, 2009 8:21 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, and Perry Fewell agrees with you.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 8, 2009 8:26 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is a great singer.

Craig.

by taskersd on Jan 8, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes...He is overrated....

Simply because of the super high expectations we had of him coming out of college. I think he was expected to come flying out of the tunnel on Sundays with his cape on, making 3 tackles on every down of the game. Lofty expectations of the hearalded backer from the vaunted hall of Linebacker U. Bills fans heard the Shane Conlan comparisons.

Poz is good. A smitten above average at this point. He seems a bit slow and out of position a bit often (scheme?). Coverage skills are lacking IMHO. He just kinda seems….well…there.

Hopefully he can become what we need at LB, a big play maker as he develops and gets more comfortable out there…..(wow…we tend to say that about alot of our guys huh?)

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by MonStarr_716 on Jan 8, 2009 9:10 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like your point

I would consider him an under-achiever based on some of the expectations people put on him. In reality that may have been a little too high. All I know is that I like what I see from him come game time and outside of the Ralph, too.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 8, 2009 9:24 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All I know is that I like what I see from him come game time and outside of the Ralph, too.

This, I can agree with….we do have to give at least another year before we bang the gavel on this kid

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by MonStarr_716 on Jan 8, 2009 9:38 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a little surprised more people don't talk about him being moved to the outside.

I am one that hopes we go after a MLB in FA and let Poz play in his more natural position. For a first year player in a new position he did fine. But IMO to see his full potential he needs to be outside. He has a good football head and is well respected.

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by keuka121 on Jan 8, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excuse my football knowledge...

or lack there of, but I hear this alot. About moving Poz to the outside. I know he played on the outside for 2 or 3 years in college, but why are so many people wanting him to move to the outside (serious question). I’m guessing we would want him at the Will LB because of his size? What makes him a better candidate on the outside? Is it because it better suits him due to his style of play or because he played more OLB in college?

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by MonStarr_716 on Jan 8, 2009 10:29 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I gather a bit of both. Suits his style and more comfortable.

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by keuka121 on Jan 8, 2009 10:32 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

He was a stopgate at PennState playing the middle and he is doing the same thing this year. As for int’s forced fumbles, sacks, well you cant really do any of those if you constantly have to be sitting in a hole or dropping into the short zone. If the scheme changes and we get players who can hold their own then I think you can set him loose more on the blitz, from different positions so on so on. Until this defense gets better poz will not get better IMO.

by ballinbills1315 on Jan 8, 2009 12:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

These things sort of drive me nuts

I know that he could have been a bigger play maker, but he finished 24th and 18th in the league in tackles-out of 32 teams each of which have at least 3 starting LBs…So that puts him among the best in making tackles, right?

Same with Lee Evans-I know he’s supposed to be a gamebreaker, and we need him to be, but if you look at his yards (19th) and yards per catch (which is hard to figure because you have a lot of 1 and 2 catch guys with 40 yard avgs) he is right up there among the best.

I think we have the starting talent here at a lot of key positions-just no depth.

by Frank L on Jan 8, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think almost everything has been said, but let me just say that I’m pretty satisfied with his progress this year. He’s usually in position, plays the run very well, has come close on a few interceptions, and always hustles to the ball. I might also point out that, though he doesn’t have sacks, I believe he has helped spring Mitchell on one or two stunts. Good things happen to players who hustle, thats all I know.

by PozDispenser on Jan 8, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man.......

Now I am getting highlighted and picked on because of my adjectives. Gotta love it.

Poz is a “Good” and “up and coming” young player in this league. He should not even be mentioned in the same sentence with Patrick Willis.

I made a statement yesterday to one of my close friends > ‘If the Bills don’t make the playoffs next year, I might have to chose another team."

I kind of feel bad about that statement but I am VERY FRUSTRATED!!

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by Cutter3636 on Jan 8, 2009 12:41 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can do it!!!

Patrick Willis and Paul Posluszny were drafted in the same year.

DONE! :-)

by MattRichWarren on Jan 8, 2009 1:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brian.........

Is Orakpo worth the #11?? My sources tell me NO.

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by Cutter3636 on Jan 8, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Orakpo is currently the best DE available. He’ll likely continue to be the best DE available throughout the entire pre-draft process. He is a Top 10 pick.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 8, 2009 12:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha! Sources?!?

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by Kurupt on Jan 8, 2009 4:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I compare Poz to AJ Hawk

Similar size and strength, although Hawk has a slight edge in speed. Hawk is an excellent outside linebacker, and an average middle linebacker. The proof is in the stats: Playing outside linebacker in 2006 – 120 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 8 PD, 1 FF, 2 Int; 2007 – 105 tackles, 1 sack, 4 PD, 1 FF, 1 Int; While playing middle linebacker in 2008 – 86 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 pD, 0 FF, 0 Int.

Hawk had far fewer tackles and turnovers (but still maintained sacks).

My idea:

Sign either Crowell or Dansby, move Mitchell to middle (his natural position), and Poz moves outside.

Everyone plays to their strenghts and we solidify the linebacking core.

by bruuuuce_02 on Jan 8, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like this idea but wonder if Mitchell can be effective dropping back and more importantly can he be the guy calling the D? I like the idea of re-signing Crowell and moving him to middle, shifting Mitchell to SLB and POZ to WLB, does this make any sense?

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by keysh67 on Jan 8, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably not but from MLB they can see the whole field much better than from the OLB position, so I would think the MLB keeps the play-calling duties

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by keysh67 on Jan 8, 2009 7:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind that if it were any of our LBs, really.

Jauron brings in heady players and I think they all know the game well enough to do it whether it’s Crowell, Mitchell, or Poz. Ellison would also do a good job with it.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 9, 2009 11:02 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perry Fewell says he puts the defense in the right spots to succeed

I assume you are referring to being out of place in run support. Sometimes he does guess and guesses wrong about which hole the back is going to go in. I wouldn’t go out and say “huge amount” as you did but he does make some as every player in the league does btw.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 10, 2009 2:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't discount the injury...

I know it’s fashionable to say that this was “basically” his rookie year. It’s not entirely fair to hold last year against him for getting hurt (especially since he allegedly could have been back in December), but the bottom line is that in 2 seasons since being drafted he hasn’t been an impact player.

Tackles are nice, but not always indicative of “greatness.”

He’s just an average at best MLB right now. Hopefully he’ll get better…more big plays are needed.

by Make a play Whitner on Jan 8, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i like the blog name

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Jan 8, 2009 3:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

stats alone don't create the whole picture

Tackles really don’t show everything obviously. If that were the case London Fletcher would be a Hall of Famer. The stats do show that he’s average, and so far he has been, but really you have to watch the guy on the field. He’s been great at times and seemed lost at others (see the pic posted last week on here from the Pats game where he thought he’d double cover the FB and let Cassle rush for the first down), which should get better over time.

So far he has been a solid player and I expect him to get better. He will be a leader of the defense and make the plays he is supposed to. For anyone to claim that he’s is going to be a gamechanger and dominant in the likes of the NFL’s top line backs is a little farfetched.

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by evdawg419 on Jan 8, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poz is out of position

Plain and simple, Poz is a Strong Side LB. Put him there and watch him become an ALL-PRO.

by gjv on Jan 8, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scheme

The reason some people believe Posluszny is under-achieving is because of our scheme, it has nothing to do with him as a player.

Has anyone else noticed that nobody on our defense makes any plays? Ever? It’s because we play a passive, vanilla, conservative, boring style of defense.

We don’t attack. We sit back in coverage and allow everything short. When we do blitz, we instruct five guys to run directly into a blocker hoping to free up one 6th pass rusher (not making this up). It’s infuriating.

There are a couple of high-profile defensive coordinators available out there, dare we go after one?

by Harris on Jan 8, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its called the tampa 2

designed so that your brooks/sapp/lynch/rice caliber defensive players are free to make plays while everyone else plays it safe and has their backs. Stop the big play and let your extraordinary players make extraordinary plays. we dont have extraordinary players, so it becomes..“hope they throw an incompletion on third down.”

by JPH on Jan 9, 2009 11:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When we do blitz, we instruct five guys to run directly into a blocker hoping to free up one 6th pass rusher (not making this up). It’s infuriating.

Why is that infuriating? It’s called an overload blitz and lots of teams do it. Send more guys than they have to block you and you’re guarenteed to get one guy through.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 9, 2009 11:04 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he was more upset about them sending guys who have no intention of getting to the QB simply hoping to open up one single rusher.

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by Kurupt on Jan 9, 2009 12:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks K

That’s exactly what I was saying. If you’re sending six guys, tell them all do whatever is necessary to get to the QB, get the blockers to twist, turn and get off balance.

by Harris on Jan 9, 2009 1:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This guy played badly this season. no way around it

I’m a stats guy too, Matt, but basing your judgment of poz on his number of tackles is nuts. That’s like basing your judgment of a batter on the number of times he didnt strike out. Yes he made tackles. But he also missed a TON of tackles. Tons. He got juked out of his shoes by Jay Cutler. Twice. He got sidestepped by Chad Pennington. In Each Game. Let’s not ignore the fact that he had zero sacks. ZERO. And it isn’t like he didnt blitz. He’s just horrible at it. He never fills the holes, he never consistently takes bad angles to the ball carrier, he constantly gets manhandled by blockers. You compare him to London Fletcher, the king of bringing down the RB after an 8 yard gain, but he’s not even close to that. Fletcher wouldnt make a play, but he was a solid tackler, and a didnt make a lot of mistakes. Poz makes a ton of mistakes. he’s out of position way way way too often. if we’re judging by tackles, Ko Simpson is our second best DB.

I’m all for a numbers argument, but I think saying that he made a reasonable number of tackles so he’s at least above average is ridiculous. I’m not asking for him to be Ray Lewis, but comparing him to London Fletcher….i was no fan of london fletcher but poz cant shine the man’s shoes.

by JPH on Jan 9, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW, 98 linebackers in the nfl had at least .5 sacks this year. Paul Pozluzny was not one of them.
Blake Constanzo forced more fumbles.

by JPH on Jan 10, 2009 12:31 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't say tackles were the only way to judge a player...

but for middle linebackers (not DBs) tackles are a key stat.

As for the sacks, he didn’t blitz a lot this year. That was Mitchell’s job. Poz dropped back into coverage.

Poz is a solid tackler. When he gets his hands on a player they come down. You can’t argue that.

When you say he was out of position, he’s out of position for where you think he should be. On a number of those plays he was filling his gap (something you also say he doesn’t do) and somebody else missed an assignment.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 10, 2009 2:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

according to espn.com

Poz had 3 tackles for a loss this year.

sorry. that’s no good. You’re not good at playing the run if you tackled the runner in the backfield 3 times in 16 games. That’s fewer than Bryan scott (WHO IS A SAFETY) and Aaron Schobel (WHO PLAYED 5 GAMES).

I do think sometimes we’re too hard on people, but people are wearing Pozgoggles. He’s a nice guy and works hard. He was an extraordinary college player. I believe he can be a good NFL linebacker. But, right now, he is a liability.

by JPH on Jan 10, 2009 12:50 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scott was brought up for run support

His job was to play on the TE and when it was run crash from the outside. Schobel’s job is to get into the backfield. It doesn’t surprise me that either have more tackles in the backfield that Poz who wasn’t sent on blitzes. His goal is to meet the carrier at the line of scrimmage, not blitz past the line of scrimmage.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 10, 2009 2:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey K................................

Ive been told by Brian’s favorite website at Walter.com that he has phenomenal lower body strength and a great first step, but he is slight of frame, in that he doesn’t excel with his hands or shedding blocks. Thus, he has TROUBLE getting past the guy in front of him on a regular basis. DE I have been told is one of the weaker positions in the entire draft. AND are you going to tell me the Bills take ANOTHER Texas guy with their first pick? How has that worked out? I graduated from ASU in 3 years with a Communications and Business degree. I know a couple of insiders. Wink Wink. Sometimes I have too much fun with it. I just wish I knew a couple of Bills insiders. T

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by Cutter3636 on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm assuming you are talking to me

in which case, color me confused. Are you talking about Orakpo, and if so, what does that have to do with me? I like Everette Brown. You really are having a little too much fun because I have no clue what’s going on here!!!!

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Jan 10, 2009 1:18 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoever your “source” is isn’t all that knowledgeable. This is a deep DE draft. A weak QB draft. And Orakpo defies the Texas jinx. I see him regularly listed as the top workout warrior in the nation. He is beastly strong and fast. Just not as gifted at the position as Everette Brown. Brown already has developed multiple moves to get around his blocker. Very fluid.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Jan 10, 2009 11:09 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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